₦airaland Forum

@ Princek12,

Many countries admit 17 & 18 year olds to Med School and it has not reduced the quality of doctors. Maturity is not necessarily about age.

Nigeria cannot afford to make medicine a postgrad degree only for now.  We need to train many doctors quickly to cope especially as many experienced doctors are " doing Andrew".
Med schools in Naija is currently open to postgrads who chose to but most don't. In the UK, over 30% of med students have degrees ranging BSc/BA/LLB/B.Eng  to PhD.
In the UK, candidates are invited to an interview. The panel typically has at least a doctor, a medical student, and one or two other professionals/lecturers. They consider academic performance (without which you won't get invited in the first palce), commitment to medicine like work experience in hospital, nursing home, hospice, charity work, hobbies, foreign languages spoken etc. Quiz you on your personal statement submitted earlier. Basically looking at how well-rounded an individual you are.
If you can eliminate corruption from the admission process in naija, you can surely put a system in place to admit suitable candidates irrespective of age.

Tensor,

who said that 6-3-3-4 was a holy cow?

Shouldn't it be normal for any responsible government to fix the errors in any system gradually? Has GEJ identified any specific failings of 6-3-3-4 and what reasonable proposals has he put forward so far?

6-3-3-4 is no worse than 6-5-4 or whatever. You reap what you sow. If you do not invest properly in education, how can you expect excellence?

@ Tensor, The wise King Solomon of modern era.


At this moment in history, can you name any aspect of governance in Nigeria that works? Oh sorry FG is able to share proceeds from Niger Delta oil among 36 states. That must be an achievement by Nigerian standards these days. Sorry o if you have people in government and you are enjoying their loot with them. In that case they are all in infallible where you stand.

To butress my point, I saw a Nigerian surgeon (who went through 6-3-3-4 system) do a marvelous job yesterday. To the admiration of UK born, bred and trained surgeons. The point is Nigerians when given a conducive environment, thrive irrespective of the education system in any given country.

GEJ blaming an education system seems to suggest that teachers were paid good salaries on time, modern labs and up-to-date books provided in libraries, villages all over the country have decent classrooms but still there is something very very stubborn about 6-3-3-4 that all efforts have been  in vain.

I did not go through 6-3-3-4 system so no need for me to be biased in favour of it.

Politicians have to always say something however silly it is.
6-3-3-4 has not failed. The Nigerian system as a whole is what has failed woefully. A resounding F9 in fact.
If you blame 6-3-3-4 for education failure, what do you blame NEPA failure, Nigeria Airawys failure, the gullies in Benin-Lagos and Lagos-Ibadan roads, the rickety Niger Bridge, decaying hospitals and others on??

With so much neglect and corruption, any education model whether 6-3-3-4 or backward 4-3-3-6 will fail.
By the way I know many people who went through that so-called failed system and are doing marvelously well abroad, from South Africa to Europe to America.
Even common private schools that used to be reserved for the less able students with rich enough parents in my time are now doing well and even getting their students into top European and American universities.
uncle Joe, you can do better than this. Don't give past illiterate dictators and their bootlickers the chance to say that even young educated politicians cannot take Nigeria forward.  Don't shame the younger generations.

Ol' boy, which titles dey now?
Is it direct from omonile or Baale or how?
Which other immediate expenses are inolved?
Can people start developing straightaway?
Which amenities are there: light, water, tarred road or earth road?
Cheers.

My sister, your oga correct ooo. As you said, he had a different upbringing, so of course you understand that.
My mum denied herself a lot to help extended family, no benefit whatsoever except God's abundant blessings.
I was going for a funeral last year and I ended up paying for excess luggage. The oyinbo friend who drove me to the airport was like, WTF, you're going for a funeral and you have luggage like you're moving home.

So na culture and upbringing thing.

But my dear, no let am get to the level wey e go cause kata kata between u and ur man. Na give and take.

My madam's extended family is enough to start an average-sized town! But that's life. Your nuclear family is NUMERO UNO. Like your Oga said, carry extended family load on one shoulder only (not even both). You can never do enough for them lai lai, so no stress yourself.

Can you give more details? Titles, kind of land, estate or from Baale? Exact location, distance from Lagos, facilities?

I think it is viable potentially. But you need big time recruiters/employers (banks, oil & gas, govts etc) to work with you.
Most diasporians won't go back if not to well-paying jobs.

But you know how things are. You need to be well-connected or long-suffering/patient.

People at home hardly give to someone they cannot expect twofold from.
If you have powerbrokers to help you, then you will grow fast.
But then Seun might never have expected the runaway success of NL when he started!

Is it still possible to get a plot of land for under 500k in a middle class area in Ibadan?

Hi ,
What titles are currently available? Do you know the current cost of C of O in Ibadan?
Please send any pictures/info to my email.
tomabay@yahoo.co.uk

hi poster, is your land at mowe-nla ikorodu still available?

Now there was a Japanese lady tennis player, Kimiko Date, who was born left-handed but her grandma forced her to play with her right hand because like in African culture, Japanese don't like left-handedness.
Sometime in the mid-90s she ranked number 4 playing with right hand.

Some believe she might reached the very top had she been left to use her natural left hand.

Don't limit your child's potential by making him use right.

Poster,

Tell us the titles you have.

MOBO,

Your cousin should make up his mind. If you cannot trust a girl enough to take to America, how can you trust that she will not bang around in BENIN? if he just can't trust let him not even bother to marry. A man has to gaMble sometimes.
If all those oyinbo and co in akata land were so great, he wouldn't run backhome to look for a chick.
I am not saying that our girls are angels (we men are also not) but you have to be optimistic going into a marriage.

He can just say that he wants a baby machine and not a wife. Nothing wrong with that as long as the girl is ok with it.
If your cousin's documents are not quite complete yet to be able to conveniently bring her over, he can also say so. There are many Naija based wives while the man typically has an oyinbo wife abroad.  But just be honest about it.

As for the girl's family being in it for the money, there is hardly any Benin family without a child in Europe or America.
I assume she's a young lady, why expose her to temptation by leaving her behind and visit once in a year or two? Strange.
Can he remain without intimacy in America?

Mr Hollatunji,

Are you implying that N2,000,000 (N2m) will give you 2x 2 bedroom flats, Since less than N1m can build 2bedroom flats?
What's the quality of the materials used?

How much will build a three bedroom bungalow? How soon can people start building after buying land?

In that case my mum, God bless her soul, was the best social worker that ever lived! She cared and cooked finger-licking dishes for many, even people that were from various tribes, for free, so much much that her house was always full. Not least as she had the habit of doing "sara" (free for all food) regularly. We get the reward from GOD now.

@cork,
What part of naij you come from sef? If at all you're naijaman, list the typical names from your tribe.

Hi Realty,

I find your programme interesting. Please send more info to my email : tomabay@yahoo.co.uk

Zionsown,

Your enthusiasm and optimism regarding Naija is infectious.
Well, Aisha2 is our NGO guru. She will point you in the right direction.

But first visit obodo naij and see things on the ground and see the area you want to make an impact in (victims of police brutality, amputee bike riders, victims of boko haram, abandoned kids, child witches, seriously ill children, domestic abuse victims) in fact so numerous that you won't know where to start.

Just pick one or two et voila!

My dear Zionsown,

Social work only practically exists in places where the government (especial local council, municipality, etc) actually cares about the poor, orphans, abused and disenfranchised people!! Does Naija fit this picture for you??
Social work exists in theory in NAIJA  but only really happens in some hospitals where an attached social worker may have to look after babies abandoned in hospitals when family cannot pay bill.
If you are ready to take abaNdoned babies home every night, use your money to buy pampers and feed them also, then social work is the right job for you in "Naija we hail Thee".
Your best bet is to keep playing lottery, win a lot of money and go to Naija and set up an NGO.

On a more serious note, try to lobby your state government to provide social services, by so doing you might start a social revolution that other states might want to emulate.   
But don't just relocate until you have secured something decent with a reputable international NGO.
Alternatively, top up your degree with a managerial postgrad qualification or something else if you can  to open more doors for you.

Bonna Fortuna.

pebontrack,

Why are you sending information to people as if it is a secret society, why can't pictures and prices be made available here? A waste of your time, huh?
Our people are terrible with advert. You want to sell and you still hoard information about your products. Terrible.
Not just only you ooo, but quite common with our people. So nothing personal.

Someone may not live in Naija but can suddenly see this as an opportunity to partner with a friend or realtion at home. If your prices appear affordable, it might encourage some who never thought of it before. Your website mentions no block making machines.

Temi darling,

An educated person like you should know better. You think we boys cannot contribute meaningfully?.  When I met my madam, she already had 2 degrees! I was just beginning my first one. Back in the day in gidi Naija, there was only one school offering the course I wanted, so corruption and tribalism played and still plays big role getting in. I checked out to try abroad. On getting to Europe, I would need about £100,000 in today's money adjusting for inflation.
Not able to save enough to afford it, I was reluctant to do any other course.  So I didn't for very many years until I found another calling before going to uni.

Now,  the guy already has an OND, which he can build on if he so desires.  The essence of my long post is, look at potential, not just which degree he has now or doesn't have.  Why  can't you encourage him to further his education??
BTW, what happened to love in all this OND/BSc.  talk?

@iyabasira,

Maybe romance section dey in order for this our sister to post this thing o. If you do 19 hpours of work daily, romance for marriage too go suffer o.

Chaircover my sister,

I think many of us don give sincere advice regarding downsizing.  We know say e no easy to do suddenly like that. She can work out a plan, say over 6 months or 1 year to try and regulate things.  Because she's so busy, she may not have time to look for another job, that pays nearly as well BUT gives her more time for herself and family. Our people say if you don't leave JOHN HOLT, you won't know they're recruiting at UAC.

Wearing £500 lace and  riding a Hummer to church on Sunday (exaggeration) when overall quality of family life suffers, is long term not ideal.   We need to view the pursuit of wealth from different angles and see how it impacts on the pursuit of family happiness.

@ Poster,

   This is a bit complex. It seems you (u & your hussy) have set yourselves a high standard of living e.g. boarding school, good things of life etc that it cannot be maintained without your income.
If that is the case, then your man will know why you are away the whole day and should not complain about you not doing enough domestic chores.

A lot of guys here are hinting that your long hours away may be putting your home at risk. Maybe it is not what you want to hear (you prefer SA doddesses' posts) but they may have have a point.
If he now complains "religiously" as you put it, then he may have become unhappy with the status quo but knows that he cannot afford everything alone.
You seem to have made up your mind that your career and current lifestyle are non-negotiable.
Have you sat down with your husband and try to explore how much it disturbs him??
Any possibilty of downsizing?  I know people  here in the UK who didn't go to boarding school but have been through or are going through Oxbridge. I went to a good old Naija secondary but didn't stop me getting the grades or going to UK uni of my choice or course of my choice.
Sometimes, it's keeping up with the Joneses or face-saving  (not saying it's so in your case) that prevents people from downsizing.
We have had to sacrifice extra income for my madam to have more time to spend with the kids.

@ Buzugee,

Our Naija friendship na waoo. Our people get parable say, if ear no hear a bad word or message, heart no dey bitter.

They want him to just go and say hey friend, just wanna tell you that your fiancee has yanshed half of the men in Oshodi , and continued to 79% of men in Ajegunle .

Maybe this is the chance for the lady to settle down finally. In all honesty, who can swear by any holy book that his fiancee or even wife was not a call girl in her university days?
All these girls who fund going through university by selling themselves will one day marry somebody. Will any of them tell their future spouses about their past? Your guess is as good as mine

Dayokanu,

Certainly Not. I won't allow my brother to go into it.
But my brother would also know and trust me more than a friend I met in diaspora.
My brother would not think I just want to ruin his happiness.
Also the friend in question had also displayed certain characteristics (when he began getting some money) that made me to have some doubts compared to a few years earlier when he had nothing. For example he became a bit arrogant and would now want to teach you things that you actually thought him when he just came.
If he now suddenly lacked respect for the opinion of those better educated, older, more experienced and immensely helpful to him in years gone by, he certainly wasn't the kind of guy I was going to risk the wrath of a scorned woman for.
I had generally stopped telling him a few things anyway in order not to be accused of envy. When making a quick buck by any means became his priority, those more careful like us became good for nothing people who just spend a long time abroad (like studying for 7 or 8 years) without all the flashy things yet. Some people don't believe in sowing before reaping.

@ Dayokanu

Not a childhood friend though.
Close but not close enough for me to be sure that he would not be blinded by love to believe me instead of the girl.
Though some of the girl's people knew that I knew.
But if it came to that, they would most likely back the girl and make me look like a liar,  slanderer and character assassin.
You have to use your head sometimes.

@POSTER,

My advice is leave them ALONE.  I was in your position a decade ago. Like your case, the lady had a sordid past. In fact I could never think of marrying her (knowing her history) despite her stunning beauty. She did "it" professionally. To think of a woman doing "it" with 10 to 20 men daily is abhorrent. I really agonised about it. Would I be a bad friend if I let it happen? Would I even be a worse friend if I ruined his happiness when I could have kept quiet and leave them alone? In the end I decided to live them alone
To cut a long story short, they now have  lovely kids.
I never said a word.
He was head over heels in love and I felt she deserved a chance to start afresh. BUT still I found it difficult to be close to them after they got  married.
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An argument might happen one day and I might lose control and say it in anger. I am only human. I basically severed contact with them to avoid the possibility of spilling the bean. I know by now that he would be thinking that I am only jealous that he has married a beautiful woman (knowing his mentality), hence I cut contact with them.
LET THEM BE. People are not really willing to hear the truth when it comes to love.
The couple in my case are getting on with their lives and I with mine.

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