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JESHAL:Any problem? Any question or counter arguments? If there are, I would like to hear them. |
kobams:Glad that you have read and you are taking red pill. Have it in mind that a woman can present herself as an angelic nawalt to her spouse, run a happy family with him and be seriously involved in the relationship/marriage while being regularly piped down like a hòe in secret by other men, to the oblivion of her husband. She might even be religious and participate actively in her church or mosque. This infidelity doesn't impact her morality and conduct in other aspects: she might be kind to others and her children, she might show her husband respect, she might be a good homemaker, she might be the type that dresses decently etc. So let people not make assumptions based on superficial impressions. Also know that most women are not daft in their manipulation and most women are good at hiding their shenanigans. I will say more in part b. Any questions you would like to ask? |
Calibrator:This is a good resolve. No need trying to control or bother about what one can't control.
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Calibrator:I agree with you, bro. No matter how self-centered a person is, some negative consequences (especially immediate ones) can be used to put them in check. They stay in check because the negative consequences affect them and it's in their best interests to avoid these negative consequences, not that they care about the impact of their behaviours and decisions on the feelings and welfare of others. This is the scare tactic underlying the old culture of new wives taking oaths of fidelity in the shrines of their deities. This happened and still happens in some societies. It only works if the woman REALLY believes in the existence and absolute supremacy of the deity and the swiftness of the diety's wrath if they renege on their oaths. Then, she refrains from indulging her lust because she perceives her survival is at stack, not that she cares about cheating on her husband. Of course, some women didn't really believe in the gods (atheists and agnostics have always existed, especially in secret). In some cases, they didn't highly rate the god in front of whom they swore; in this case, they would seek, sometimes with the guidance of their mothers or other women, charms from other gods they perceived to be stronger by visiting other native doctors to fortify themselves and protect themselves from the deities presiding over the appointed day they would make the oath of fidelity. ![]() |
poncedeleon:The precision and immensity of the red pill in that song made it my favourite song on his album. That song is redpilled from start to finish. Guys here should check out the lyrics. |
^^^^ The part b which I shall entitle "WOMEN AND THE INNER HÒE" will come out later, probably on a weekend, when I have the energy and time. I didn't write much in the post above as I wanted to keep it simple and accessible because of time and space. I have communicated the idea, use your imagination to connect the dots and shatter any spurious and irrational assumptions. Finally, don't misconstrue my post as misogyny, hatred or a disgruntled rant against women; it's far from it. If you are still in the stage where unflattering opinions or facts about women get you in your feelings or make you scream "misogyngy", you won't go far in the red pill. ![]() |
PART 2 WOMEN AND CHEATING (part a) NB: any talk of pleasure, enjoyment or whatever is simply referring mainly to lust, and sexual fantasies in some aspects. Following the first part of my short write up, some would be inclined to ask "since we can't stop a woman from cheating if she wants to cheat, can't we find a woman who out of goodness and decency is guaranteed not to cheat? The good, decent girl who won't cheat?" This second lengthy write up will put you in a perspective where you can answer this question for yourself. As a woman will invariably have her best interests take precedence over you, whatever bond you think you share, and whatever you have done for her in the past and present, so will she do with her sexual enjoyment, exploration and pleasure. These will be readily prioritised over whatever sanctity or regard for you which you think are intrinsic to your committed relationship. In this regard, female nature exempts no man; doesn't matter if you are a redpiller or not, simp or not. As a result, there is no man that cannot be cheated on. Some men naively think there are women who sincerely say to themselves "this man has been good to me and he will continue to be good to me. He also provides well. Hence, out of my respect, appreciation, sanctity and/or regard for our relationship/marriage, I will close my legs and not utilise any SAFE, SECRET AND NONJUDGEMENTAL opportunity (that let me indulge all sorts of fantasies, pleasures and debauchery I want) to have sex with the guy who currently gets me in mood and who I think can pound me to my satisfaction, even better than my man does." lmao. Lori iro; female nature doesn't work like that. It doesn't happen. Things such as "I like/love him, therefore I will close legs and not have the fun I am opportuned and in the mood to have in secret while I keep my relationship/marriage." Such never happens. Even if you are the best provider and the most excellent husband/bf/father or you are the most knowledgeable and astute redpiller with a masculine frame made of adamantium, the same applies. Her sexual enjoyment, exploration and pleasure will take precedence over you and your deeds. Even if she genuinely feels and treats you as the "love" of her life openly, it won't deter her from cheating. As much as people might want to think otherwise or intuitively think, even the respect and regard she has for you won't stop her from prioritizing her sexual enjoyment and pleasure over you and your deeds when the "iron is hot"; what RESPECT and REGARD do is that they ensure your woman takes extra steps to conceal her infidelity and shenanigans from you, and she will keep these things far away from you and be discreet so as not to get you upset or bring shame to you. This won’t make sense to many; it will sound counterintuitive because it seems natural to think that a woman who respects you will not cheat because she has regard for you, but female nature doesn't work like that. It is what it is. Don't let a woman's or simp's words make you think otherwise. This is the reason why picking a woman from the gutters, helping her family in whatever way, and giving her a good life as a boyfriend or husband won't stop her from cheating on you with the available guy that is sexy, gets her in the mood and who she currently thinks can rock her world in bed if the opportunity presents itself and she can get away with it and still keep her relationship or marriage. This is the reason why a woman will have no problem sleeping with another guy in the apartment you bought for her if she can keep it a secret from you and still maintain the relationship/marriage for its benefits and security. If she can have the best of both worlds without any trouble, she will. What you have sacrificed or done for a woman does not guarantee fidelity the same way these won't stop her from monkey branching; no man is exempted from this. ====== DIGRESSION! ==========Make sure you have it in mind that women are the prime self-centered UTILITARIANS of nature, most especially towards men in their dating strategy. That's nature. They put themselves first and are always after their best interests. Their best interests will always supercede what you have done for her in the past... the same applies to her pleasures and search for sexual novelties and fulfillment of her fantasies. Married or not, old or young, etc the same applies. What you have done as a guy, redpiller or not, and the sacrifices you have made cannot elicit sexual loyalty from a woman; your provision and resources only guarantee association with the woman (it's in her best interest to associate with you). It doesn't matter if you trained her (as a wife/gf) in school, gave your kidney to keep her (as a wife/gf) alive, or lost an arm to save her life; when she is in the mood and she is opportuned (as I explained), her pleasures, interests and satisfaction will take precedence over your past deeds. Your past deeds and the respect you command wouldn't stop her from seeking and eloping with a better option in the same way your past deeds and the respect you command wouldn't stop her from sampling a better diçk and exploring with that guy that gets her in the mood, regardless of the sanctity of her relationship/marriage. The same way people believe woman can love them, as the blue pill suggests, is the same way people believe there are women who will give them sexual loyalty for whatever reason (eg. virtue from religion or culture, appreciation, respect, regard, sanctity of the relationship etc.) As a utilitarian, her association with you is based on benefit and your usefulness to her (Briffault's law). The sanctity of the relationship doesn't feed her or pay her bills or counts were it comes to prioritizing her best interests and sexual pleasures; how long the courtship/marriage is or how long you've known each other won't count when it comes to prioritizing her best interests and pleasures. The same applies to the vows, love promises and profession of love she made to you. If she can get the best of both worlds by getting "fun" in secret and reaping the benefits and security from being in a relationship/marriage with you, she will; she is getting her needs and wants, and that's all that matters. |
JESHAL:I am about to drop the part 2 in a few minutes. Calibrator, Ubunja, Skepticus and others, what are your takes? Let's discuss. Edit: below is the link to the second part https://www.nairaland.com/6048178/reality-every-guy-need-know/1144#109614859 Kobams, hope will read my answers to your inquiry. |
luminouz:You have done well. |
Calibrator:Do you know this discussion has been had here before? It was discussed and I said the same thing. |
Tokskob2008:Thank you. |
Genesiszero:Stop being a simp. You and others are advising your brother to persist despite red flags because you all have bought into the idea that marriage is too holy to break even when a woman is misbehaving big time. Can't you see you all are blue pill agents trying to keep your brother in the plantation? Agent Smiths. ![]() Lol. Her cries are touching you even though she is in the wrong. Stop letting a woman's tears move you. |
Olaideolayemi:How do you know she has learnt from her mistakes? |
Your brother is making the right move. Too bad his surrounded by blue pill bad advisers. |
machote:Apt! |
JESHAL:Tomorrow. Believe me, I haven't forgotten. |
SOZINN:Women inwardly know that it's smart for men to conduct DNA tests; they know it is rational. If women were men and they found themselves in a relationship situation, they would do DNA tests. The nonsense of "so you don't trust me?" or "do you know what you are implying?" or getting angry won't work on them because they understand each other and don't trust each other. They know what's up and how treacherous and shitty they can be. Sadly, men are falling for these nonsense. Unlike men, you won't see them stupidly saying "I trust her. As long as she hasn't given me any reason to doubt, no need for a DNA test." Any redpiller that doesn't do DNA test, falls for the aforementioned tactics and stupidity, and trusts his woman to that extent has failed the red pill. Even if the child looks like you, still do a DNA test. You can conduct it in secret. Women delibrately paint the request for a DNA test as a bad thing and grave offense in relationships for the sake of the sisterhood: to shield the perpetrators of paternity frauds and silence those that want to make inquiries. You will even see some women that happen not to be guilty of paternity fraud subtlety shielding and sympathising with paternity fraudsters.
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ubunja:As far as I know, all you have said is spot on except for the emboldened statements. Even though they don't impact the veracity of other statements, the emboldened statements do not conform to the science of genetics and reproduction. Telegony has long been known and shown to be a pseudoscience. I think you should look into this concept of telegony. If there are evidences supporting telegony, then I will be happy to see them and learn. Thanks! Till evening. |
I can assure you, most of what you wrote here are usually the problems of handsome and sexy MALES. |
ubunja:Iseeeee!
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ubunja:Apt! |
JESHAL:I get where you are coming from. Our ancestors had strict measures to curb female promiscuity; these measures varied from society to society, some still subsist in few societies today. Even in many of these societies, the measures aren't as stringent as they used to be due to many factors (few of which you mentioned). The thing is, when you compare today and the traditional ancient times, the measures which our ancestors established to curb female promiscuity were effective in as much as they reduced premarital sex, adultery, and other forms of sexual immorality... but it did not eradicate them. There were women who were still stoned for adultery and premarital sex; prostitutes still existed then and have always existed since the history of mankind; there were many cases of women who gave birth to children out of wedlock; there were women who produced no blood stain on the white handkerchief on their wedding night, thereby bringing shame and dishonour to their family. I can go on. I will even wager that there were many sordid acts, sexual immorality and indecencies behind the curtains that forever remained secret and the public didn't find out. These measures might have controlled and prevented certain public displays, but it couldn't do much as to whatever happened behind the curtains, away from its prying eyes. This happened everywhere even in this part of the world. These measures weren't just on an individual level, they were also on a social level. They were social norms. These measures were even among the pillars of societies and even found their way into many legal systems and precepts of religions. Despite all these and the apparent reduction, sexual immorality and other sordid sexual acts were not totally eradicated. How much more today when there is little shame, freedom and autonomy of self? When I wrote my post, I was speaking with our era in mind. The time of our ancestors isn't coming back anytime soon. Even in Islamic communities, a lot of things are still happening behind the curtains even though women dare not do certain things in public. Let's not try to control what is beyond us. Finally, dread game will obviously not hinder a woman's desire to cheat. It doesn't work that way. The fact that a woman fears losing you and is putting in efforts to keep you doesn't mean another dude isn't piping her. If a woman can have the best of both worlds, she will. I will address a lot with the second part of my post as I promised. Let's not dwell in delusions. |
Junnior:Useless simps indeed. Dude really needs to work on his life. He is in a place where serious relationships should be the least of his concerns. |
kobams:Nice inquiry. I will not only answer your question, but I will use this as an avenue to drop a long talk on women and infidelity. I believe you will find it invaluable since you are concerned and it's related to your inquiry. A lot won't accept my take, particularly the second take, but we must unveil the realities of female nature in accordance with the objectives of the great thread. PART 1 Simply put, no man can 100% stop a woman from cheating if she wants to cheat. If you happen to be the most knowledgeable redpiller with an impeccable masculine frame, the same still applies. Even in ancient societies where premarital sex and adultery were punished with death or ostracization/exile and having children out of wedlock or marrying as a nonvirgin brought great shame to the family, there were women who were still cheating. How much more a way lesser stringent time as today? Checking her phone every now and then, rigorously monitoring her every movement or hiring investigators to monitor her will weary you as you can’t possibly keep it up for too long or cover every avenue for her to cheat; it is an unnecessary waste of time and resources. Doing such is not the stuff of a red pill man as I will explain later if time permits. Don't ever put yourself in a position where you are trying to prevent a woman from cheating on you. Don't go through such stress. A man with a life, who has things going on for him and who has business and more important things to attend to, can’t afford to spend so much time and energy keeping tabs on his woman to make sure she doesn't cheat; even if he does, he cannot maintain it for too long. Such a man can't even cover all avenues available for his wife to cheat because while he is busy, he can't tell what he wife is doing behind his back. Even if you are jobless and have all the time and energy to track your woman, it's still not a guarantee that you will stop her from cheating or even cover all avenues available to her to cheat. It's still not a guarantee that you will catch her cheating. Besides, a lot of women are smart in how they run their game. No woman is even worth the stress. In fact, your lack of value, mate guarding and the availability of better options for relationships will hasten your worst fears. So, bro, you can't stop a woman from cheating if she wants to. Red pill won't stop women from cheating on you. Red pill unveils a certain aspect of reality, but it doesn't bestow invincibility in all situations and total control of a woman at all times. In fact, the red pill will make clear that you avoid certain women, certain behaviours, and certain situations for whatever cogent reasons. If you fail to take heed or you get delusional, the red pill won't bail you out. ======== My second, much longer take (part 2) will come later. To be continued. |
sajmark: Only the wise ones can decode the red pill truths in this. |
heartofcity12:The guy is a simp. Also, his priorities are misplaced. |
heartofcity12:Dude needs to get his priorities right. |
Smartb0y:As in. I am spamming the report button at an incredible rate. ![]() |
ATTENTION! Ignore Eldèr0001. He is a troll and an embodiment of the ashewo thread mentality. I have encountered his moniker severally in the past, and he is up to no good. |
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