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elated177:
Lol. You dey fear? Lol....

I'm here for the OP so go ahead and teach if you have the knowledge!

elated177:
Define church?

I'm not here for you so if you have anything tangible to contribute please go ahead you and i aren't on the same page!

hort07:
Interested sir.... I am open to learning

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses, we don't engage group arguments so i will allow whoever wants to teach do so perhaps you can find something tangible in their comments.
So don't worry my friend let me allow them for now, i will teach you later when they're done!

hort07:
So true sir.... The majority of the Churches we have around now sir,are they after the well being of her members or the fame of the church

Satan is only promoting many sects today like different lanes on the road to destruction! Matthew 7:13-14
After Jesus has called out his own people the rest are doomed. Revelations 18:4

I will tell you how to identify the FRUIT we need to know so as to recognize Jesus' group if you're interested! Matthew 7:16-18

SeniorMan715:
How long will he be allow to misled people ?

There are some things God kept to Himself alone that even Jesus don't know {Matthew 24:36} so it's only God that knows how long He will permit Satan but Jesus told us that it will be a short time! Revelations 20:3

SeniorMan715:
Psalm 139:15-16
God knows us even when we weren't born.
Does that mean he will resurrect those that was aborted or maybe miscarriage. ?

NO! God only knows those who are in line with His salvation plan so all the first born son of Abraham's lineage are recorded in God's book because it's through that lineage that Jesus Christ will be born {Matthew 1:1-16 ; Luke 3:23-38} but the rest are like walking corpse in God's sight {Luke 9:60} because they're sinners {Romans 5:12} and not in God's plan, one can only become part of God's plan when he/she avail himself or herself for the salvation plan! John 1:11-12

Steep:
you are not a Christian so it means nothing to you.

But you are a Christian and ever since i have known that there's nothing called "gospel music" you're just discovering now shey?
Continue deceiving yourselves!

Jesus said:

the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” John 4:23-24

So God's Active Force will no longer operate in Jerusalem's temple but anywhere Jesus' disciples gathered {John 16:13} because it's no longer about geographical location {John 4:21} that's why it only operates where Jesus' disciples are assembled!

MindHacker9009:
Keep deceiving gullible people that your holy spirit did a runner from the Temple when the Roman armies entered Jerusalem.
But your holy spirit could show it's power with Ananias and Sapphiras

And let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near! Hebrews 10:24-25

Anyone praying or having any act of worship in isolation (private) can only gain personal things {Matthew 6:6} but when it comes to salvation through Christ we mustn't be isolated! Matthew 18:20

Satan knew this that's why he began the spiritual war against the church immediately after Jesus' ascension {1John 2:18} Jesus foresaw this {Matthew 13:25} but today Jesus has called out his own true disciples from the world empire of false religions {Revelations 18:4} today God's angels are gathering sects in false religions for destruction {Matthew 13:30} but His own worshipers He has given another group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Isaiah 65:15

Rebecca wore a nose ring! Genesis 24:22-47

Steep:
Wizkid, Davido, Burnaby or kiss Daniel are working for Satan, turning people to sin and not to God.

You don't know what you're saying!

This are normal entertainers that you can choose to buy their music anyone that suits you and reject the ones you found offensive it's all about entertainment.
But when you think some entertainers are singing for God whereas they're all lovers of money that's when you've been thoroughly deceived!

SeniorMan715:
Will people who took their own life be resurrected?

Before Christianity anyone who does based on the fact that they're fed up with the evil in this world will be resurrected because they're sad due to the unrighteousness all around them so God will bring them back for their faith to be tested, they will live within Christ's 1000 years reign and face the final test before they can gain everlasting life! Revelations 20:1-6, 11-15

SeniorMan715:
How can someone sin against the Active Force of God (Holy Spirit). And can he be forgiven?

It's not easy to sin against God's active force!
Before one can do this he/she must render his or her conscience dead to whatever is good at that point in time there's no going back! Luke 23:39-43

SeniorMan715:
The righteous ones that are dead will they also be resurrected with the unrighteous ones in Christ 1000 reign or in Paradise. ?

YES! 144,000 among them will join Jesus in heaven because they have learned how to rule with Christ but righteous people like Abel to John the baptist will be resurrected along with millions of Christians for interchange of experiences as they managed to cope, we will learn so much from their experience and they will also learn from our own as we also managed to cope during the end time.
But as for the unrighteous (people who only lived by conscience without knowing God's righteous standards) both ancient servants of God and Christians will have to educate them through what is written in God's word {Revelations 20:12} it will turn out for their salvation if they comply but many of them will return to their graves if they refuse to accept.
That's what Malachi foresaw as the only way to get one's name written in God's memory book is paying attention to what JWs are doing both now and during Christ's thousand years reign! Malachi 3:16 compare to Revelations 20:15

SeniorMan715:
When will Satan be release from abyss ?

After the thousand years of Christ! Revelations 20:7

All what you need is humility so that you can learn from those who are given the knowledge.

MindHacker9009:
The ark of the covenant is like a transformer and only those with the right skill and training were to handle it but Uzzah was not aware of this.

Uzzah is from the lineage of priests but not a direct descendant of Aaron the only family God told the Israelites to touch the Ark {Numbers 4:15} so he knew very well but ignored just to make a show off that's why God's Holy Spirit struck him dead!

MindHacker9009:
Did the Roman armies not enter the Holies of Holies in the Temple in Jerusalem that only the high priest was allowed to enter and also destroy it but your holy spirit was not concerned. This shows that some of these stories are FAKE stories you use to scare those that are gullible to follow your FAKE teachings.

The Bible made us to understand that the spirit that will attack any unlawful person who enters the most Holy has left the temple! Matthew 27:51 compare to Leviticus 16:2

So anyone can enter after God's Holy Spirit has left the temple!

Instead of entertaining yourself with Wizkid, Davido, Burnaboy or Kiss Daniel music you're deceiving yourself with musicians claiming BORN AGAIN, shey?

Ọmọ all musicians are performing for money nothing like Jesus or gospel in their hearts, so anywhere the spirit of money goes they follow!

MindHacker9009:
Hmmm! But the Holy Spirit can killed Ananias and Sapphire just because they kept some of the money from the sale of their own property but could not protect the apostles and their followers from the armies of Rome when they matched on Jerusalem and the Temple

God's Holy Spirit killed Uzzah for trying to save God's ark from falling {2Samuel 6:7} because it has been written that touching it belongs to a certain family! Numbers 4:15

This same spirit never protected the Israelites when Babylonian armies destroyed Jerusalem but only Jews that surrendered to the invading armies were spared, even those trying to escape to Egypt were brought back to be killed.

So learn to assimilate not just arguing, God's Holy Spirit will not protect disobedient people as for faithful servants of God they will be rescued for the will of God to be done but any of those hiding what has been dedicated to Jehovah must die!
Read Joshua chapter 7 then come back and tell me why thousands of Israelites died just because of the sin committed by Achan!

Morning Stars means the first set of creation before others. So both are part of the first set of angelic sons of God known as chief princes {Daniel 10:13} but because Jesus (Michael) is the first born of all creations {Colossians 1:15} who partake in creating of all other things {Colossians 1:16} he is known as the Archangel {Daniel 12:1} that's why he could conquer Satan anytime anyday and anywhere! Revelations 12:7-9

SeniorMan715:
Thanks so much i really appreciate your time and answers.

SeniorMan715:
Let me meditate and reason i may still need more clarifications

The wisdom is from above i just happened to avail myself for it like millions throughout the world are doing presently, i discovered this group back in the early 1990s when i was still a Muslim.
So do well to assimilate {Proverbs 2:1-5} and continue considering this things with your copy of the Bible beside you {Act 17:11} and don't forget to pray to God in any language you know just tell Him to help you understand what is happening regarding the way to salvation, that's exactly what i did back then but i was shocked that out of all the religions i had in mind it's this bags and umbrella carrying group that kept coming to me, though i tried to scare them away but they never relent then i began thinking within myself:

Could this be the way God is answering my request regarding pure worship?

Well i'm not stagnant Sir, i'm still available for any other group that performing better than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

Thanks for your time, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

MindHacker9009:
Hmmm! Harmless as doves! But their Holy Spirit was not harmless as doves with Ananias And Sapphire

The God of Israel never judge anyone outside His arrangement because they're INNOCENT as far as His laws is unknown to them but in the midst of Israelites ignoring the Sabbath is a crime that attracts capital punishment.
So God's Holy Spirit will never strike those who never agree with it's arrangement but it will never tolerate anyone who look down on what has been agreed upon! 2Samuel 6:7 compare to Numbers 4:15

The apostles has bind what the group agreed upon so God's Holy Spirit killed the couple that disrespected what the apostles has bound even when they know that the heavens has granted it! Matthew 16:19

SeniorMan715:
Can you please support your answer with the bible (Quotations).
NO!

God only inspired men among his people (Israelites) but after Jesus came God only speak to mankind through Jesus of Nazareth! Hebrews 1:1-2
Jesus also speak to people through his group until the final message he revealed to Apostle John known as the Bible book of Revelation! Revelations 1:1
When Jesus wanted to close all his message to mankind he said:

 “I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll. Revelations 22:18-19

Which means no addition and no subtraction. Therefore any dream, vision or miracles today is coming from Satan the god of confusion to complicate issues for honest hearted individuals who are looking forward to know the truth from God! Revelations 16:14

That's why Jesus said those deceived by such miraculous works that yielded no orderliness are workers of Lawlessness (iniquity) {Matthew 7:21-23} Satan knows that many will be deceived by the immediate solution to their problems yet they will care less for righteousness and humility. So to mislead them he created countless religious sects all performing signs but the question is what you asked in the beginning of this discussion:

Which of them is saying the truth since they're contradicting themselves?

Well if you care for the FRUIT {Matthew 7:16} you will know the truth and the truth will set you free {John 8:32} but if you don't care for the fruit then the road will have multiple lanes before you! Matthew 7:13-14

SeniorMan715:
Someone that's a JW but he has little knowledge of what he believes though he does the necessary things as a JW, but wasn't fully convinced. My question is... If he die tomorrow he dies as a JW in everyone's eye, will he be resurrected as a righteous or unrighteous man?

The conviction matters because there are hard times ahead that will test our faith in what we believe {1Peter 1:7} but one thing is sure Caleb and Joshua kept following God's arrangement faithfully and they got to the promised land not because they knew everything before hand but they faithfully obeyed all what Moses God's chosen leader said! Numbers 14:30

So in like manner all what is required of anyone is humility coupled with the fact that you can't find a better performing group than the one you're associating with which means you're for righteousness! Zephaniah 2:2-3

SeniorMan715:
How can i make the truth my own and be convince is the truth.

By joining any religious group that's producing the FRUIT expected of pure worship {Matthew 7:16} because if it's not the TRUTH no religion can produce what is written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and repeated at Micah 4:1-3

SeniorMan715:
Is modern day Miracles and Dreams from God ?

NO!

MindHacker9009:
Peter drew out his sword at the end of master Jesus 3 year ministry so what did he learn all along from master Jesus's ministry if not to be a zealot.

Also master Jesus told them to buy a sword at the end of His 3 year ministry so what did they learn from His ministry if not to be a zealot.

Here master Jesus told Peter to put away his sword NOT 'THROW AWAY HIS SWORD'
John 18:10
10 Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear. (The servant’s name was Malchus.)
11 Jesus commanded Peter, “Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?”

And here master Jesus told them to buy a sword
Luke 22:36
He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.

All these happened before they were anointed with God's Holy Spirit, after that they became harmless as doves! Matthew 10:16

So they have changed before writing all these things!

tctrills:
Well, that's your church doctrine and not the gospel of Jesus Christ.
And it actually makes very little sense. Let me ask you, where did the water wash the dust to? Was the dust washed into the sea or was it taken to heaven?
How about I told you that the reason for the flood was to destroy all dragons and dinosaurs, would you believe me?

That's why you can't present any group as true disciples of Christ because you don't want the truth. Well i only came to show you what you're dodging from since you just want to continue arguing here and there without worshiping with any particular group.
Know today that without a particular group you can't worship God acceptably because you must WORK with Jesus' disciples to preach and teach about God's Kingdom and you must point, direct, present, tell those listening to you the group that's practicing Christianity in the right sense.

In the absence of that Jesus doesn't know you, you're on your own!

SeniorMan715:
Am satisfied with the answer thanks.
Please help me with a brief history about the Government Body of JW

It's called "GOVERNING BODY" and this body dates back to the first century when Jesus told his chosen twelve apostles that the rulership of his earthly subjects has been handed over to them {Luke 12:32} this group will grow up to 144,000 in number {Revelations 14:1} God will choose them from among Jesus' disciples but no one has a say in God's choice of co-rulers with His son not even Jesus himself has a say in this! Matthew 20:20-23

They are the BORN AGAIN Christians after the normal water baptism God will choose them by anointing them with Holy Spirit {John 3:5-6} just as He did with Jesus after his water baptism! Matthew 3:13-17

Just a few of this 144,000 member are selected to oversee the activities of Jesus' disciples globally.

Now this is how many today are doomed if the failed to acknowledge this Governing Body!

Jesus has given them the authority to bind and loosen on earth so that whatever they bind or loosen here God will grant it in heaven! Matthew 16:19

This group is what Jesus referred to as his brothers because they were born by God's Holy Spirit just as Jesus also {Matthew 25:40} they needed the support of their earthly subjects to gather people for God's Kingdom throughout the world. That's why Revelations 12:16 said the earth (people from all races) came to their rescue when Satan tried to stop their activities!

The selection began in the first century with Jesus' disciples down to our day, many of them have died due to persecution from Satan's agents {Revelations 17:16} during that time Satan declared no freedom of worship so they can't work well to gather subjects for God's Kingdom and people will not be able to see the difference but today America declared freedom of speech, expression, worship and association that's why they're able to station the headquarters of God's earthly Kingdom in the United States.

All these will never make sense to anyone if not due to their FRUIT {Matthew 7:16-18} which Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 explained explicitly!

tctrills:
[/b] I don't care what you think as long as it's not in God's revealed word. Again, if God's wanted to wash out dust, there would have been no need to kill off all humans and animals. Also, the special dust was not washed off the face of the earth. After the water receded, the dust would remain on the earth. But let's not distract ourselves with this new topic.

Ọmọ humble yourself and learn!

The deluge surely washed away the special dust used in forming bodies for fleshy creatures that's why most places around Asia and Africa turned to desserts because that's where the special dust was back then!

So in a nutshell it's not the male or female organ that determines the masculinity or feminity rather it's something totally different that's why loyal creatures in the heavenly realms relates more with the males than females because their nature is the same as that of males! 1 Corinthians 11:10

Even Jesus who claimed that he's from the realms above {John 8:23} when choosing his closest confidants preferred 12 Apostles all were males no single female among them {Luke 6:12-16} after his ascension to heaven he came back to choose yet another apostle (Paul) also male! Act 9:15

tctrills:
Oga a she-male is a transsexual. These are men, often involved in prostitution or pornography, who have undergone breast augmentation while maintaining their male genitals.
transgendered (also spelled she-male; also she-man and he-she) is a term most commonly used in the pornography industry to describe trans women or other people with male Instruments and female secondary sex characteristics (including breasts) acquired via hormones or surgery.[1] Many people in the transgender community consider the term offensive and degrading.[1][2][3] Using the term transgendered for a trans woman may imply that she is working in the sex trade.

tctrills:
Please could you address my first question. If it's not only sex organs that makes gender difference, what else?

Omo it's the masculine nature, many females today do have penis, hips and huge breasts they are called she-males you can Google it to confirm, so don't think it's the organ alone that determines masculinity !

PARABLE!

Ken4Christ:
You know that you are lying to your teeth.

Since you say it's parable, interpret the parables below one by one. If you don't, you are a wicked man turning the truth of God's word into a lie.

1. Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in DANGER OF HELL FIRE.

2. Matthew 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be CAST INTO HELL.

3. Matthew 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be CAST INTO HELL

4. Matthew 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and CAST INTO THE FIRE.

5. Matthew 8:11-12.
11.And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
12. But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into OUTER DARKNESS: there shall be WEEPING and GNASHING OF TEETH.

6. Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND BODY IN HELL.

7. Matthew 11:23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be BROUGHT DOWN TO HELL: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.

8. Matthew 13:37-43
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and BURNED IN THE FIRE; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be WAILING and GNASHING OF TEETH.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

9. Matthew 13:47-50
47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50 And shall cast them into the FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be WAILING and GNASHING OF TEETH.

10. Matthew 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into EVERLASTING FIRE.

11. Matthew 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into HELL FIRE.

12. Matthew 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

13. Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the CHILD OF HELL than yourselves.

14. Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the DAMNATION OF HELL?

15. Matthew 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

16. Matthew 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into OUTER DARKNESS: there shall be WEEPING and GNASHING of teeth.

17. Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into EVERLASTING FIRE, prepared for the devil and his angels

18. Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into HELL, into the FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED.

19. Mark 9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into HELL, into THE FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED.

20. Mark 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be CAST INTO HELL FIRE.

21. Luke 10:15 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, SHALT BE THRUST DOWN TO HELL.

22. Luke 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed HATH POWER TO CAST INTO HELL, yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

23. Luke 13:28 There shall be WEEPING and GNASHING OF TEETH, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

24. Luke 16:19-31
19. There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

25. John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and CAST THEM INTO THE FIRE, and they are burned.

SeniorMan715:
In 1879 Charles Taze Russell Founded Jehovah's Witnesses, Please help me understand this, was it that God never had true worshippers or people living by his will ?

SeniorMan715:
And Charles Taze Russell been the Founder of Jehovah's Witnesses, can you say he was a righteous man because i have read about him and base on the account of the bible you told me to read there where some things he did, believed that were not reasonably upright

Charles Taze Russell was just like an instrument in God's hand he wasn't the founder of the group, himself and others were making research to find out where the churches went wrong but they couldn't on their own until Jesus returned in the year 1914 to find out that there is no simple religion practicing what he commissioned {Luke 18:8} so that was how Jesus chose this group known today as Jehovah's Witnesses. Many of the things Russell taught has been charged because Jesus began correcting the teachings until God adopted this group 15 years after the death of Russell, he died in 1916 and God changed the group name from International Bible Students Association to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15
So Russell only played a part in journey to discover pure worship he wasn't the founder!

Of course people tried to worship God during the dark ages but Satan made it impossible for them so all their efforts will not go in vain they will be remembered during the resurrection of the dead! Job 14:13-15

Please i've been busy but I will respond to your questions whenever i'm less busy.

MindHacker9009:
Form the New Testament there are clues below that the followers of Jesus were zealots

Here master Jesus told Peter to put away his sword NOT 'THROW AWAY HIS SWORD'
John 18:10
10 Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear. (The servant’s name was Malchus.)
11 Jesus commanded Peter, “Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?”

And here master Jesus told them to buy a sword
Luke 22:36
He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.

Even the Holy Spirit too was a zealot for what He did to Ananias And Sapphire

The funny thing about you is insisting people can't change after learning yet you're here trying to convince others to change their beliefs!

oteneaaron:
"And God said LET US make/create mankind in OUR IMAGE and in OUR LIKENESS..."

First of all who is the " Us"/"Our" ?

If only you did some research into the history of ancient Mesopotamia, you would learn about the true story of creation and not the half-baked watered-down version we were given in the old testament.

Also, don't forget that an "image and likeness" is largely relative.

Before we homo-sapiens came into being, we used to have the homo-erectus - in whose image were the homo-erectus created?

Remember that for a fact, there are potentially billions of many other sentient beings living on other planets across the universe in different shapes and sizes - in whose image were they created?

The true "image and likeness" is not merely physical, but in a reality, a "Spiritual" image and likeness. - I used the term "Spiritual" for lack of a better word.

GOD means SUPREME BEING and all beings have one thing in common: attributes or characteristics.

So say something else!

tctrills:
You claim angels are spirits, not men. Do you even understand the meaning of gender? without physical reproductive parts, you can't say the angels had any gender. So basically, you are saying that angels are not spirits, they have sex organs and they have sex.

It's not only the sex organs that makes gender difference but attributes, when God said "let US make MAN in our own image" {Genesis 1:26} it's obvious that all those in the spirit realms have the masculine attributes otherwise the consistency won't be there and have you noticed that throughout the creation period only males were recorded except when females do anything noteworthy?
Jacob had 12 sons if not what happened to Dinah you won't believe Jacob had daughters.
So humble yourself and learn all the angels with the Almighty God have masculine attributes that's why women were created as a compliment for man because he is flesh not a spirit! Genesis 2:19

tctrills:
The bible never wrote any of these why assume? When did the bible say that angels decided to mold bodies? When did the bible teach that angels possessed bodies? Your religion is a religion of assumptions. This is not Christianity.

Just the same way Satan possesed the serpent and demons possessed people they can also form and possess bodies through the dust of the earth before the destruction of Noah's generation!

tctrills:
This is a distraction and should be a different topic. If you want to discuss the flood create a different thread.

I know you're empty only arguing blindly but i will tell you:

It's to wash away the type of dust God used to create fleshy bodies for both humans and animals so that those fallen angels won't have such opportunities again after the deluge, that why we have desserts today in many places those are the place where the type of dust God used to form bodies for flesh creatures were gotten. So after the global deluge both the garden of Eden and the dust were washed away.

Go and teach your church members, it's the wisdom you can't get elsewhere!

SeniorMan715:
That he will teach them his ways, so that they may walk in his paths, and judge between many peoples and will settle disputes for nations. And Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.

That's the FRUIT expected of Christianity and there's no religion that can produce this FRUIT because it's God himself that planted that tree {John 15:1} so no matter how dedicated people in any religion may be if they're not connected to Christ they can't meet up with the production of this FRUIT.

Today Jehovah's Witnesses are gathering people from different nations throughout the world {Isaiah 2:2} using God's word (Bible) to teach themselves {Isaiah 2:3} and the result of this is that they have used what they learned in the Bible to settle all the racial disparities among themselves this is what has been causing hatred in other religions, JWs diverted their resources into production of food and information materials, they erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons from the hearts of all their members and they have all vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:4

Satan knew that this is the one and only group producing this FRUIT so he is working tirelessly to make people hate JWs despite the fact that this group is producing the FRUIT everyone wanted they just can't understand why they must hate JWs! Matthew 24:9; John 15:19; 17:14-16

May you have PEACE!