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Lukuluku69:
Lol.
Intelligence Officer? Lol ����

tctrills:
Abi

I'll be here where you're abusing, insulting and cursing each other over your religious differences!

tctrills:
You claim to be some kind of agent with info, no problem. But if you can't disclose the info then what is your purpose on this thread.
The purpose of social media is communication but you have failed to communicate so what is your purpose here?

FAITH is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen! Hebrews 11:1

I am a man of FAITH so i discuss with everyone about God's promise regarding a united global family of peace loving worshipers that all sane humans hope for and the evidence that it's almost here even though faithless people like you choose not to perceive it!
So if anyone is promoting hatred towards any race or religious groups i will tell them that it's politics that's the problem not race or religion if politics is removed everyone will see the true religion!

Lukuluku69:
I can't stand madness.
But I can stand your own delusion. Your own Delusion is a controlled one. His own is mixed with a malady of humongous proportion.
Enjoy your chat with him though

The truth is that you're struggling to fight back at the truth even though you know that the only thing you have left is the Arabian religion that's of no practical benefits to anyone but he is all over you with his hatred towards your Islam so you can't stand to fight dirty unlike i whose faith stands out unique!

tctrills:
This has nothing to do with Jesus. This is you claiming to know too much and you expect the world to believe you without any proof. Do you think any intelligent person would believe a mere stranger with no proof of anything he says?

Do you have any belief at all?
Ọmọ you're an atheist Joo!

Lukuluku69:
Lol ��
Must you add the last phrase in your submission?
Well I don't have strength for your back and forths o jare but I do like your dance with loony Op.
Walahi I salute your patience in dealing with his tripe. Abi you don work for YabaLeft after your Intelligence work ni?

You guys can't stand him because he builds all his comments against Islam, to real Christians we don't have any issue with your religion it's just like all others, our main focus are religions claiming Christians but rejecting the foundation laid by Christ! 2Corinthians 11:12

That's why you can't see me coming to support misinformed Churchgoers against any religion not even your ISLAM because they are all dead to us! Luke 9:60

Lukuluku69:
Oga Ade, I can see that you are enjoying your dance with that Looney. Keep replying him so that the comedy will keep flowing.

Even though Islam is just like all other forms of worship there's no reason blackmailing Arabs in the name of religion or racism, politics is the problem just as you too have admitted that politics is what your people are working towards not pure worship!

Tochj:
Prov.8 is about Wisdom as a virtue not as a substance.

The person talking at Proverbs 8 is a creature through whom mankind gained the WISDOM of God, so he is rightly called the wisdom of God!

Tochj:
I disagree Sir
Begotten is just like how ur father begat you.
You came out of him
He didn't create you
You are the same substance with him.

God created only one creature (Jesus) who later created all other things following God's orders, that's what only begotten means!

Templee333:
for the first time in ur life u speak the truth. If only u guys would allow others to worship whatever they like & stop condemning them,i wouldn't have any problem with u. So u now agree that ur worship is non-biblical? Wow! That's an improvement. Its the good works of Nairalanders that produce this positive result in u. Now as 4 the better performing group,how many times do u want me to present them? World Health Organization is one- they've done far more than JW. Infact, Aliko dangote himself alone has done more charitable works than ur JW body as a whole, u get it? Now don't come here asking 4 a better performing bla bla bla, u guys havn't done anything

And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

This is what performance is all about and the FRUIT expected of pure worship. Matthew 7:16-18
So even if it's witches that succeeded in doing this they are the one and only performing group according to God's word!

Templee333:
WHY DO U WORSHIP THEM?

Because you failed to present a better performing group than those worshiping them instead you people are killing one another in the face of politics and racism.
So whatever i choose to worship is non of your business if you can't present a better performing group of worshipers!

SeniorMan715:
As humans, we're programmed to be "logical" in our thinking.

Let me blow your mind!

The book (Bible) written thousands of years ago by humans who knew nothing about technology says a lot that beats my intelligence!

I'll pick just one that relates to what you're saying here: God created planet earth and put humans with other creatures in it with the order that the humans (created in His image) should take charge of everything on the earth! Genesis 1:26

Then an intelligent spirit being possessed one of the creatures and use it as puppet to speak to the less experienced human known as Eve.

Now let's consider the conversation and see if there's any sense in it.

The serpent asked the woman if God restricted humans not to eat of any of the trees in the garden ~ are you free to do whatever you want without being checked?

The woman responded that from all the trees of the garden they can eat to satisfaction but as for the tree that's in the middle of the garden they must not eat otherwise we will die ~ we can do whatever we like but we mustn't think of setting standards for our fellowman because that will lead to disaster!

The serpent compelled the woman that eating of the forbidden tree won't cause anything it will even be to their advantage making them like God knowing the best standard instead of waiting for someone to always tell them how to deal with their neighbours ~ humans don't have to rely solely on God's standard they can think of their own!

So the woman accepted the offer and her man also joined her ever since then mankind has been trying different types of governments to see which will bring peace and security but till today no human government has succeeded in bringing peace rather it's security operatives we keep forming and crime kept increasing!

Well the same book later said God will establish His government on planet earth but before then He will arrange for a form of worship that will bring all obedient humans under one umbrella, they will use God's word to settle all their disparities, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons from their hearts and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4

Today that organization is here, they're not using weapons to force themselves to obey God's standard, they have fulfilled that Bible verse wonderfully, their group name is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

Please ask the atheists if they've succeeded in making peace reign in any gathering without using weapons to intimidate themselves before compliance to simple rules!

tctrills:
You are not enlightening anyone. If you claim to be an intelligence officer and you are not willing to share the things you say you know but you want others to accept what you say even when you can prove or defend it, that is not how to enlightening.

Even Jesus did not disclose everything he knew with his closest confidants because they're not yet mature enough to bear it! John 16:12-13

That's the most intelligent human who ever walk this planet so go and sit down!

Tochj:
Before creation, Jesus Christ was the one and only begotten son.
He came to Earth and show us the way to the kingdom.
We believed him and he made us co-heirs with him.

Begotten means the only creature directly created by God, all other intelligent creatures are also God's children but only Jesus was created directly by God! Proverbs 8:22-31 compare to John:1-1-2

SeniorMan715:
Hebrews 10:26 “If we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left”
please explain this verse for me

Sin connotes error but when a sinner realized the gravity of his wrongdoing yet wants to continue hurting himself then there's nothing Jesus' blood can do for such a willful sinner.

There's no sin that's heavier than our God's given conscience {Romans 1:20} so all what we call "SIN" is nothing before God as long as it has to do with imperfect humans but then when you finally realize that there's no way forward in what you're doing yet you just choose to continue doing it that means even if you're permitted to enter paradise you won't appreciate life so God won't take such a person seriously anymore! Psalms 9:17

SeniorMan715:
Why does Jws Opposed Vaccination?

90% of JWs globally including myself are vaccinated!

tctrills:
Then you should not be on this thread.

Ọmọ you can't stop me from enlightening others!

Tochj:
Jesus is the first Born son of God
Those who believe in him are his Brothers in the kingdom of his father,"John 1:12"

YES many will become his brother by FAITH but i'm talking about his brothers before the creation of earth!

tctrills:
So if you are no longer in the service, you should be able to share with us how Africa and America are romances and how it's affecting the Arab world.

It doesn't work that way some information are so confidential that when licked the one who is involved will be tracked based on the geographical location where it is heard.
The intelligence still have the data of all agents whether in or out of service it's kept for future reference even when an agent is confirmed dead. So we don't talk anyhow!

tctrills:
That's my point, you shouldn't even be involved in this discussion is you are an agent.

I'm an ex as in EX-agent so i can enlighten interested persons on false information.

Back then we gather facts and pass to our bosses who sit down with politicians to filter it and select what the general public can bear so now that i no longer work with them i only help when facts are needed to correct wrong impression.

Are your subscribers fed up with SuperStory?

Well you don't need me just continue with your STORY interested subscribers will fall in!

cornelboy:
Lol. Being a JW is far more better than being a Muslim.

He called the most peaceful and peaceloving group the world has ever known "Death wish cult" but what of his own religion that's bent on killing everyone to force their teachings on people?

cornelboy:
Where did Jesus condemn medicine/herb or say it's sin?

Are you still playing around with this faithless churchgoers?
Perhaps they thought Lazarus was never attended to with medicines, Mary and Martha just waited until he died without giving him any medicine!

Ọmọ please leave them in their self imposed ignorance, na so Kumuyi gather this mumu claiming he's going to cure their illnesses with miracles while his own wife died in an hospital!

Perhaps the doctors and nurses there has more Holy Ghost power than Mr Kumuyi that's why he couldn't use his own Holy Ghost to cure his dying wife!

mrZENographer:
Lucifer was an archangel (a leader)
Jesus Christ is the Word of God a.k.a The Spirit of God a.k.a The Only Begotten Son of God. John 8:42, John 16:27-28, John 1:1-3
He is the creator of all things (including the archangels)

Any scriptural backing for the highlighted?

efficiencie:
People define their perception based on their characteristics. No amount of debate will convince a blind who doesn't know that he is blind that the color of everything that exists is black. It doesn't matter how intelligently you convey your argument such a person will never "see" things the way you do. This is why I respect people's opinion when they are adamant. As for me I have my beliefs based on my experience through life and as far as the belief in the supernatural is concerned everyone's journey is unique to them.

The highlighted is untrue!
Jesus is the wisest and most wonderful counselor of all times, he way of teaching is the best yet Jews speaking his mother tongue deliberately deaden their senses of assimilation just to keep their political ambitions. Do you think the Pharisees and Sadducees in Jesus' day can't perceive what Jesus is portraying as absolute TRUTH?

Let's consider few clues:

© Nicodemus was one of them yet he secretly went to Jesus (at night) to confirm that members of his group are fully convinced that Jesus is God's sent! John 3:2
© According to the Torah which they claimed is their guidebook Moses foretold that another prophet will rise just like himself {Deuteronomy 18:15-19} out of all the prophets ever walked in their midst only Moses was conferred with the title "GOD" {Exodus 7:1} because that's the first prophet who performed miracles in the history of God's people and after him there was no other like him {Deuteronomy 34:10} except Jesus of Nazareth who performed miracles greater than what Moses ever did and they all acknowledged this {John 9:32-33} but what did the Pharisees and Sadducees thought after seeing all these? Well instead of humbly accepting Jesus they called a urgent meeting to get him killed! John 11:47-53

© They sent soldiers to get Jesus arrested but when these ones saw God's begotten Son they fell for his teachings {John 7:45-45} yet these wicked people grew much angrier at them {John 7:47-49} Nicodemus who happens to be one of them spoke up to prove that he's not carried away by their conspiracy theories {John 7:50-51} but they silenced him with a threat! John 7:52

© They later gathered thugs to follow another set of soldiers this time with one of Jesus' closest confidants (Judas Iscariot) so that there is no mistakes in catching this man. After catching him the attitude of Judas Iscariot showed that they breached the agreement they had with Judas which is just to question Jesus.

© They took Jesus to their King perhaps that one can see a reason to kill him the same way he did with John the baptist {Matthew 14:6} but Herod Antipas discovered that Jesus has no issues with him so he returned him to Pontius Pilate (Roman governor) then they stood their ground that Jesus must die even though Pilate couldn't find any fault in him! John 19:1-16

© Finally Pilate said he washed his hands from been part of the shedding of Jesus' blood but these people told Pilate:

“Let his blood come upon us and upon our children.” Matthew 27:25

Pilate brought out a notorious criminal who has terrorised Judea so much perhaps in exchange to save Jesus from the hands of this stiff-necked people but they told Pilate to free the criminal and kill Jesus! Matthew 27:26

Surely my friend the truth is not difficult to know but there is this great fence barring evildoers from becoming part of God's people! Luke 16:26 compare to Genesis 3:15

Most people have gotten the sense of truth but they deliberately blurred their senses from listening {Romans 1:20} for your information that is what Jesus referred to as sin against God's Holy Spirit: the type of sin that will never be forgiven! Matthew 12:31-32

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

tctrills:
So you are claiming that you are hiding the facts from me?
Let's make it simple. If I were an intelligence officer and there are information I am meant not to reveal, I wouldn't even be discussing it at all on social media.
I would totally stay away from such debate. That's why I don't trust you when it comes to this.

Now you're talking!
Haven't you noticed that when it comes to certain info i will just tell you what is happening without further details?
This discussion is about hatred for blacks by Arab Muslims, note that the OP didn't say the hatred is from Arabs in general but Arab Muslims that's why i told him something far much more than religion and racism is the root cause. I won't dive into confidential infos but maintain my stand that it's neither religion nor racism that's fueling such hatred!

Olambees:
Subhanallah,
Before I start, I will like you to tell me the groups of Muslim we have. But I can tell you. I follow the Quran strictly and I've never been in any group order than being a just Muslim.
In Quran we are commanded not to divide ourselves into sects. Thus dividing our religion into sects is against God's command. Those who divide into sects are termed as idol worshippers, and not members of God's religion.
[6:159] Those who divide themselves into sects do not belong with you. Their judgment rests with GOD, then He will inform them of everything they had done.

[30:31] You shall submit to Him, reverence Him, observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), and - whatever you do - do not ever fall into idol worship.
[30:32] (Do not fall in idol worship,) like those who divide their religion into sects; each party rejoicing with what they have.
[42:14] Ironically, they broke up into sects only after the knowledge had come to them, due to jealousy and resentment among themselves. If it were not for a predetermined decision from your Lord to respite them for a definite interim, they would have been judged immediately. Indeed, the later generations who inherited the scripture are full of doubts.

We learn from above that dividing religion into sects is akin to falling into idol worship, an unforgivable sin (if maintained to death). It doesn't matter what a person calls his or her sect, it is not authorized by God. God condemns all sects.
Yes, that's why I say you never practice Islam. Because if you ever practice Islam, you will understand it's teachings....
[highlight [I don't know anything about a unique group.... All I know is Islam. And I'm a Muslim. We Muslims are Submitters (Muslims in Arabic) to God alone. We follow God's words in His Final Testament to us, Quran and accept all of God's scriptures. We believe that Quran is perfect and fully detailed as God says, and that we should not follow any other sources besides it. We also believe that God alone is worthy of worship, and that we have to abandon all kinds of idols[/highlight].
What sets these different sects apart is mainly their the human factors, and the upholding of various sources besides God's words. For example – traditional muslims uphold a multitude of Hadith and Sunna besides the Quran. In addition to that, some follow writings of various scholars and religious leaders, that go against God's words, without any kind of proof from God.
Again, if we stop to think about Abraham, Moses, Jesus or Muhammad, we realize they were never a member of any sect. They were simply submitters, devoted to God Alone. These sects were formed much after these prophets of God had departed, and are in direct contradiction with God's teachings mentioned above.
Thus, a person who abides by the Quran says "I am a Submitter (Muslim)", not "I am Shia", nor "I am Sunni", or anything else (2:128, 132, 133, 136; 3:52, 64, 67, 84, 102; 5:111; 41:33; 46:15, and more.) People who do so, also forget that Abraham was the original messenger of Submission (Islam), and not Muhammad. If we follow the religion of Abraham, as God commands us to do (3:95), we will call ourselves what Abraham called himself, i.e. a submitter.
Allah knows best.

So what has Islam been doing in the gathering of Muslims that other religions (your book call pagans) aren't enjoying as benefits in their respective religions?

tctrills:
I am sorry to say but if you don't know how to gather facts, I don't think you should be 8n that field. Many Nigerians are on the wrong field and profession.

And who told you that the intelligence do reveal facts to the public?

tctrills:
The job of the intelligence is to gather facts and stats. Have you ever visited the CIA website? It's full of stats and facts
Again, you are wrong

Website made public, shey?

Ọmọ i'm telling you that this is my field so you don't know anything about it.
When you're manufacturing a product having to do with power the first set of customers to patronize you are the prime suspect or SPIES to us.
So it's not what you're thinking!

I will assume it's bedtime so see you some other time Mr Olambees!

mrZENographer:
KING JAMES BIBLE, THE MOST AUTHENTIC. Most other versions are satanic attempts to change the scriptures

Isaiah 14:12 "How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer,son of the morning! how are you cut down to the ground, you which did weaken the nations!"

He is called Son of the Morning. Jesus is called Bright and Morning Star.

Both of them have something to do with the Morning meaning they are from the same origin shey?

tctrills:
And you are basing your conclusion on dog and bones?
If you don't have the stats to back what you say then you should not say it.
It's not wise to make baseless points.

In the intelligence we don't conclude on what is known to the general public rather we dig deeper as in DEEPER!

This is the job of the intelligence not what you can fathom with open statistics.

We see what the general public can't see!

mrZENographer:
KING JAMES BIBLE, THE MOST AUTHENTIC. Most other versions are satanic attempts to change the scriptures

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Please can you do justice to what you're quoting by rendering the highlighted in our modern day English?

I love your opening words but with this obsolete English you're complicating issues for anyone who may try to follow up your comment. You yourself said the version you're able to quote is the MOST AUTHENTIC but most people aren't using it perhaps due to it's obsolete English. So help me break down what you're quoting into modern day English.

Thanks in advance!