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Templee333:
If u are a faithful Jw reading this,please kindly get out because it is an apostate thread!

zoer:
MaxinDhouse will come for you if only he won't derail the topic

TenQ:
My legs crossed.
Waiting for MaxIntheHouse , Janosky

MaxInDHouse:
Dear brothers and sisters,
Though the GB has ordered us not to engage Apostates due to the way these despicable elements always argue fruitlessly, their intention is to make the audience go astray not to direct whoever listens to them to a specific profitable end.
Though before my baptism as a witness i often had certain doubts regarding the directives from this body, but what suppressed the doubt is the fact that there is no other group that's meeting up with my expectations as per making peace without the use of force, weapons nor casualties.
In the army our goal to make peace largely depends on how far we're able to force the opposition to surrender (drop their weapons) so when i first hard of "soldiers of Christ" i was amazed because Jesus never used force in achieving his goal as the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} so i kept wondering "where are these soldiers and what type of weapons are they using to appease their adversaries to surrender?
As a Muslim i always see Christianity as groups of idiots who don't know what they're doing, but when i came in contact with Jehovah's Witnesses i was deeply touched by the way they catch and disarm their enemies, so i asked myself "could this be the real soldiers of Christ?" because they will never raise a weapon yet they're conquering millions from different races and tongues under the heavens, and not only that but making their captives fellow soldiers of PEACE. Mark 1:17
So my aim is to find a better performing group of so called Christians who can at least achieve 20% of what this group has done so far. But all i see is critics claiming Christians without any specific motive of achieving PEACE.
The Apostates are former members of this group who are bent on discrediting the GB with the aim of making their peace loving followers turn away. OK if one is saying the members following them should disperse please to what other group and for what purpose? John 6:68
So i'm using this medium to say that i for one am now convinced beyond all reasonable doubt that whatever this GB says is coming from the Prince of Peace himself. They said Apostates are useless and hopeless but then i doubted that idea, now let any Apostate direct, point, show, say, mention a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES otherwise.
Let us shun them completely just as the GB has ordered.
See you when all workers of iniquity are gone for good!
You brother Maximus

Bubu4Sea:
man can never be God.
Jesus predates the world,He is God who became man

Wilgrea7:
They've forced the title on me so many times I've gotten tired of telling them I'm not

LordReed:
LoLz. So if you are not a mind reader you are an atheist? I laugh in Swahili. Bwahahahahaha!

Jerryhare:
You will need the same black soap to heal your fatuity. Thank you

Bubu4Sea:
God is worshiped, are you God?

LordReed:
So even if he when he says he believes there is an intelligent designer, he's still an atheist because he doesn't believe in your brand of god?

Jerryhare:
And you call yourself a Christian right? Certainly truth shall prevail


You need to find Jesus Christ for you TO HAVE PEACE

AllenforGOD:
perhaps u shuld read rev 4:11 and luke begining till end and exodus.just subjected as u told

Jerryhare:
See shallow thinking, we shouldn't blame you since traditional herbalists are your saviours, so no how you won't use black soap for healing

oteneaaron:
But there is substantial evidence that proves to show that your JW organization is actually a high control cult. That is why you only think and speak in a specific way - you are a captive of a concept. A little research into the history of your religion and you would have been singing a different tone right now.
Stay safe bro.

Tb222:
Jesus is ready to reveal himself to you, and you ill find him soon.

oteneaaron:
Lol
It's your mind bro, you can with it as you please.
Cheers!

oteneaaron:
Is there a rule on Nairaland that says I must quote some Supreme being?

oteneaaron:
Lol
Of course, before any construction is done, it must FIRST exist as an idea or thought in the mind of the builder. That is the only way things are really created - there must FIRST be a thought about the thing that is to be created.
All is mind, the universe is mental.
The only problem here is how you understand the term or title "GOD" .
Because of your mental conditioning, all you know is GOD = Jehovah = Yahweh
But this your God Yahweh is not omnipotent, omnipresent nor omniscient, therefore he cannot be the one who constructed all things.
Your God Yahweh is almost like a human, he gets jealous, hates humanity, is blood thirsty and has killed millions of humans (including women and children) - the evidence is your Bible.

oteneaaron:
It is quite sad to see how you think too little about the power of your mind and your thoughts. Do you have any idea what you are really capable of? All you have to do is have a perfect vision of whatever you want to achieve and you will achieve it. Your mind is filled with unlimited possibllities. Look within!

Tb222:
Be careful of what you spew, this thoughts of yours can take you farther than you ever wanted to go.

Jerryhare:
In Old and New testament, nowhere it is written that Jews were healed from their diseases and sicknesses with the use of traditional herbs.

oteneaaron:
Lol.
You can't stop me from sharing my thoughts - I won't "keep it to myself"

oteneaaron:
This is a LIE. Humans like every other sentient being in the universe is a thinking organism.
EVERYTHING that you see physically, was once only an idea in the mind. Even this your post on Nairaland was initially just a thought in your mind. You had to think about if FIRST before you typed it on Nairaland.

oteneaaron:
Put your thoughts in order and come again.

SharonLoveth:
So the work of your own faith permits you to look for healing from traditional herbalist but fails to tell you that the PRAYER OF FAITH WORKS FOR HEALING isn't it? Or Jesus Christ directs you to traditional herbalist since he can't heal right?

SharonLoveth:
Stop fooling yourself and don't be deceived. If anyone tells you that traditional herbalist are not spiritual, refute not to be brainwashed

Traditional herbalists or healers use trance states ( spirit possession, sometimes called shamanistic healing) or other means of divination.


World Health Organization (2002), The “Traditional medicine” may be defined as health practices, approaches, knowledge and beliefs incorporating plant, animal and mineral based medicines, spiritual therapies, manual techniques and exercises, applied singularly or in combination to treat, diagnose and prevent illnesses or maintain well-being





You're only good at swivel, twiddle the word of God to suit your ignorant

You can read from verse 13, you'll understand this better. That Bible passage is not about spiritual illness

If God never condemned engaging traditional herbalist, show us where he approved such as read in the Bible

oteneaaron:
I don't know about you, but I have a life outside Nairaland.

oteneaaron:
It isn't meant for any "GROUP"
The only thing "GROUPS" offer you are dogmas and doctrines designed to control your mind and how you think.
That is exactly why you keep looking for something or someone outside yourself.

oteneaaron:
The key word is - thinking in a certain way.
Let me walk you through a thought experiment.
How do you build a house?
1. At first, your dream home is orginally just an idea or thought in your mind.
At this stage, the house is not tangible nor physical - it is only an idea in your mind.
You consistently think about it and when you have enough resources, you hire an architect.
2. After giving the architect a brief that contains your thoughts, he or she designs a detailed drawing of how this your dream home will look like on paper.
3. After the architect is done, you buy a peice of land and hire a building engineer
4. The builder uses materials like cement, iron, sand, granite and water to build the house from the foundation level till roofing level.
5. After the carpenter is done with roofing, finishing and landscaping is done - now your new home is ready for you to move in.
Where did it all start from?
It all started from an idea - a simple thought - it all started from your mind.
In exactly the same way, everything you see that happens today whether good or bad, was at one time, originally a thought or idea in the mind of someone.
All is mind, the universe is mental.
People need to understand how powerful their mind is and take responsibility for lives instead of looking up to a sky Daddy or living in morbid fear of the Devil.
But the problem is that thinking for yourself or learning to control your mind and your thoughts, is the MOST DIFFICULT THING any man or woman can do.
That is why religion is so powerful - it makes it so easy for people to be mentally lazy.
Why do you think religion is called the opium of the masses?
Look within.

Wilgrea7:
Ok. So if I'm to understand you correctly, your God is holy because of the actions he has taken. If we can agree on this, then we can move forward to the next stage.

You've given examples of some of the actions your God took, which to you makes him holy, like

1. Gathering people from all over the world and making them speak the language of peace
2. Preventing STDs by making some rules
3. Giving his worshipers the best careers

So clearly, holiness is based on action. In the beginning of this thread, I made reference to some of the things your God also allegedly did in the bible, like commanding the genocide of entire communities, killing babies to prove a point, destroying cities, and according to some people's beliefs, planning to barbecue people in hell for eternity.

Now, my question was, Is your God holy, because he only does good things, or is he holy because everything he does, regardless of what it is, must be considered good?

Wilgrea7:
Apologies for not seeing this earlier.

It does seem that way, that the definition of holiness depends on the person making the claim. That's why I asked the theists here how exactly their God is holy. Unfortunately, I've not gotten any clear answer.

Maynman:
Theos? Bwahahahah
Which cartoon character is your favorite?

Steep:
Ok.

Maynman:
That means the revelation book and all PROPHECIES in religionists books are scam, he is not the beginning talkless of knowing how the end will be. Also he’s not the most knowledgeable as he regularly regrets his actions like humans.
Nothing “ALMIGHTY” about the Chrestian deity.

Maynman:
See yahweh mother, Asheerah.

MaxInDHouse:
You said my presentation of my God is WEAK. So give us a STRONG presentation of your own God nah!

Steep:
leave others alone, not everyone will believe only those God has chosen will believe.
What should be your concern now is to receive the gospel.
1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1 Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

AllenforGOD:
who gidiz one utterance which v are not eligible.we humans mentality is incomparable to that of THE ALMIGHTY,sorry we are inferior while his super<inumerable>superior.get that?God is OMINIPRESENT,OMNISCIENCE,OMNIPOTENT,SUPREMACY IN INCONSTRUEABLE MENTALITY,HE IS GOD ALONE THE INDOMITABLE.PERPETUAL GOD.

oteneaaron:
How may I help you?

oteneaaron:
Your mind has every answer you seek.

Wilgrea7:
You somehow managed to squeeze your peace narrative into a very simple and straightforward question.
Hats off to you sir.
So if I'm STD free, and don't spend my time creating viruses, does that mean I'm also as Holy as your God? Or are there other criteria I don't know about?

MaxInDHouse:
When we talk about what is pure it simply means what you can't find it's equivalent, it's value is of the highest degree.

Steep:
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Your conversation since shows that you depend on group not on Christ.
The above verse shows God didn't approve any group or individuals to be the means of salvation only the name of Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
It's OK, forget about me and JWs try expatiate further on the topic of your thread:
Only Through Jesus Christ Can A Person Produce Righteousness
Convince your followers!