Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:00pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
advocatejare: So rapture has taken place or according to you, the spirit beings have been resurrected? Guy you really needs help and be freed from the bondage of the cult of JW Another failed prophecy from the lying cult: “1917: In 1918, Christendom would go down as a system to oblivion and be succeeded by revolutionary governments. God would "destroy the churches wholesale and the church members by the millions". Church members would "perish by the sword of war, revolution and anarchy". The dead would lie unburied. In 1920 all earthly governments would disappear, with worldwide anarchy prevailing”. If you're trying to change the topic well it's OK but building schools and hospitals is not what Jesus taught his disciples and that's not what they're expected to produce as fruit of faith!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:20pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:17pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
advanceDNA: I think you are not getting tenq because you are not seeing past the title of the thread that is contradictory to his texts..
The topic of the thread is just a sarcasm..a smoke screen kind of.....all he's been doing from the start is invaliting islam and mohammed altogether TenQ: I don't have any problems with 1. Belief in God 2. praying five times a day; 3. giving zakat, or donating a certain portion of one's wealth; 4. fasting during Ramadan; and 5. making a pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia.
HOWEVER, I do not believe that Mohammed is a Prophet of God nor His Messager. (Based on several issues)
Is it possible to be a Moslem with this condition?
Please what can make anyone believe the five highlighted which are the five pillars of Islam brought by no other prophet but Muhammad? Well i can understand that he's trying to ridicule Islam but nobody believes all that if you're not a disciple of the one and only prophet who taught it!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:11pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
Jokerman: 1. You have no proof of this.
2. Archangel Michael isn't the express "word" of God
3. So what role was lucifer in heaven before he rebelled? Remember, no ordinary angel could have the effontery to rebelled against God. It's not by force Sir. That's the sacred secret we found after a careful reading, diligent study, thorough meditation and fervent prayer to the author of the Bible. Proverbs 2:1-5 So if you feel it's not so there's no need arguing bitterly God's word said: And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. Daniel 12:1-3And the voice that will resurrect the dead is the voice of the Archangel! 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Jesus is the one and only person who has the key to unlock the door keeping the dead off life and activities! Revelations 20:1-3 compare to John 6:44 Most trinitarians will never agree with this because they believe Jesus can't be an angel but that's not a problem if they know Jesus better then let them organize themselves and fulfill the requirements of faith which is making disciples (zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word) in all the earth the same way Jehovah's Witnesses have done, at least that's what Jesus commanded his disciples to do and he promised to work with them as long as they're faithfully doing what he commanded them! Matthew 28:19-20 compare to 18:20 May you have PEACE!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:56pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
advocatejare: But you are specialist in fake prophecies like the people of the world: Let’s examine some of your fake prophecies
1916: World War I would terminate in Armageddon and the rapture of the "saints".
We are in 2022 and rapture is yet to happen like the cult of Jw told us There's nowhere the word "RAPTURE" is found written in God's word but the first fruits of God's Kingdom will be resurrected as spirit beings and Jesus will take them to heaven. My guy whether you believe or not that has happened in the year 1914! So if you're expecting to see people flying into the heavens then you're deceiving yourselves because Jesus said they become like angels which means physical eyes can't see them rather we can only feel their departure and even at that it's only those meditating seriously on what God said in the Bible not everyone can understand what really happened!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:50pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
advanceDNA: I'm shocked that you can't see tenq position in all of this argument.... Guy there is no logical reasoning in what he's saying! Before Muhammad there was nothing like all those things he listed up there so if he said he agreed with all that then the simple question any right thinking person should ask him is: Who brought all these things? Or To whom were these things revealed? If it's only Muhammad then he's on the same page with all those believing (trusting) in the teachings of that Arabian who claims he's the last prophet from God. No prophet has ever spoken about all those things if not Muhammad!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:41pm On Jul 16, 2022*. Modified: 10:28pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
Mikee19: Hebrew scriptures! 
(when i keep asking for GREEK SCRIPTURES relevant to the new covenant to show that's how we're to address him in this day and age when he's our Father, smh. You call your father by his own first name?) According to God's word (not man's reasoning) all other Gods are addressed by their names so the Almighty wanted to be addressed by name that's why His name appeared more than 7,000 times in His book (Bible) Jesus quoted what Moses penned down from God's voice: Jesus answered: “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah" Mark 12:29 compare to Deuteronomy 6:4Jesus emphasized that the Jewish Rabbis were wrong to have hidden God's name but allowed the names of other Gods to be preserved in the Bible a book authored by God Himself. That's why he stressed the need for God's name to be used! Matthew 6:9; John 17:6, 26 Of course many religionists like the first century Jewish Rabbis may substitute that name with titles like Father, Lord, God and so on but according to God Himself salvation is tied to that name: And everyone who calls on the name of JEHOVAH will be saved; For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape, just as JEHOVAH has said, The survivors whom JEHOVAH calls.” Joel 2:32Due to misinterpretation most Bible readers now reading what Paul quoted @ Romans 10:13 won't know that Paul wasn't talking about Jesus' name because both Jesus and Jehovah were referred to as Lord @ Psalms 110:1 whereas what David wrote there is: Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.” NWT But the KJV rendered it this way: The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.So let all critics of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES know today that none out of all your organizations or denominations can meet up with what God required of His servants today which is written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and repeated at Micah 4:1-3 because the name to be called upon for God's Holy Spirit to work with imperfect humans to achieve that is "JEHOVAH" not Father!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:20pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
Jokerman: John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Please is the word of God referring to Angel Michael here? YES! That's the one and only creature who has been with God from the beginning that's why he is right called the "Archangel" |
Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:52pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
Mikee19: Let's see your scriptures:
NKJV Mt 6:9: "⁹ In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name."
Did it say "your name JEHOVAH"?
NKJV Joh 17:6,26: "⁶ “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. … ²⁶ And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them.”"
Does Jesus "your name JEHOVAH"?
If i tell you, your dad has a good name, do i mean that his name "Jeff" (or whatever it is) is a good name, or i mean what he has done, his person, his character? The word "name" DOES NOT only mean a literal name, it is also all that a person is! So on what grounds do these Jesus was saying "your name JEHOVAH" instead of "all that you are"? Isn't it even more correct to say "say, our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be your person" and "I have made manifest to them all about who you are and represent"?
Can I ask you just one favour?
Please please please and please, just gimme only ONE time where it is recorded in the entire gospels that Jesus called God "Jehovah" to "manifest the name" to his disciples? Only one pls! We are trying to test your hypothesis that Jesus "made manifest the name JEHOVAH", instead of the person of the Father?
Wait...
Not even a single place?
Can u now see just how weak your argument is! Not even a single place Jesus used the word "Jehovah"! I'm not talking of any place where Jesus quoted scripture and the JW translators helped him to change it to "Jehovah" there like they did in this place o:
Mat 21:9 NWT As for the crowds, those going ahead of him and those following kept crying out: "Save, we pray, the Son of David! Blessed is he that comes in Jehovah's name! Save him, we pray, in the heights above!"
Because this sort of thing is trickery. The people at that time were NOT using the name JEHOVAH, they even had the tetragrammar in their scrolls to ensure they didn't pronounce that name! So how come the translators now put it in here by trickery?
I want no such trickery. Just ONE place Jesus is using the name "Jehovah" with his disciples in "making manifest the name to them", while not quoting scripture
It doesn't exist. Because Jesus did no such thing. The way he "made manifest to them his name" was in teaching them about God, who he is, and what he represents. You cannot prove this otherwise, no such thing exists  What is God's name? Psalms 83:18 |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:51pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
TenQ: If the teacher is not from God, how can the words be from God! What makes you believe in his teachings?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:50pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
advocatejare: You really did a good job exposing this liar called MaxInDHouse.
He deliberately dodges questions that will expose him, he then uses style to write long epistles to hide his ignorance.
They don’t join military but they are happy when the military is keeping them safe
They don’t participate in politics, yet the cry when govt policies don’t favour them
They allow their cult members to die like fowl by forbidding from receiving blood transfusion because they lied against Yahweh that he forbids receiving blood transfusion when Yahweh stated clearly that drinking dead animals’ blood like occultic people is what is forbidden.
They lie that receiving blood transfusion is like drinking blood, yet they receive holy communion which is drinking of Jesus’ blood.
To now imagine that someone like MaxInDHouse left Islamic cult to find himself in another cult is pitiable. May God make him find real peace and the real Yahweh and the real Christ! We are no part of the world so we live like no part of you people! John 17:14  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:48pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
advocatejare: Jesus teaching is the truth and the world hates the truth, so they killed his disciples. JW teaching is falsehoods and twisted facts hence you yourselves are killing your members So in a nutshell faithful people lay down their lives for their faith!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:47pm On Jul 16, 2022 |
ANTIlSLAM: You're welcome back, Oga Liar (Opuro) oya come over here, finish what you started.. Sebi you know Jesus Christ more than us  This is not about abusive speeches but straight to the point discussion on what is expected of Christ's followers as their fruit of faith!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:35am On Jul 16, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:31am On Jul 16, 2022 |
ANTIlSLAM: MaxInDHouse See your life, you're now a laughing stock It's a welcomed development as long as you're knowing that building of hospitals and schools doesn't quantify someone or a group to be DISCIPLES of CHRIST!  ANTIlSLAM: According to him, we are all politicians except him and his followers in JW's are the Christians  Politicians are deceitful men who hide under the umbrella of any institution to promote their ambitions. So if your senses are blurred by the building of hospitals and schools making you think that's what makes those doing it CHRISTIANS then you need to go back and study Jesus' words again but this time with sincerity and honesty not with ambiguity!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:24am On Jul 16, 2022 |
advocatejare: Those that established hospital to save lives are not real Christians according to you, but you that kill your members by brainwashing them to refuse blood transfusion are the real Christians according to your logic. Your hypocrisy stinks into the heavens. Jesus' teachings caused a lot of deaths among his disciples {Matthew 10:28; Act 7:54-60; 12:1-2 compare to Matthew 10:34-39 } but that doesn't affect their neighbours who don't have anything to do with Jesus' teachings! Please don't mix things together hypocritically. Jesus is the CHRIST his mission has nothing to do with building of hospitals and schools so if a religion is building hospitals and schools it's good but that doesn't quantify them as CHRISTIANS because that's not what Christ assigned his disciples to do!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:44am On Jul 16, 2022 |
advocatejare: Stop your holier than thou posture that JW is the best follower of Christ, your leaders have many failed predictions/prophecies and your cult is known for twisting the Bible for selfish reasons and having many killed in that process. You even claim that Jesus is angel Michael etc. May you find the real peace and May you know the real Christ. Shalom No wahala, just know that what Christ came to establish is oneness in thought among faithful people throughout the earth {John 17:22} in order for peace to reign in the gathering of the Holy Ones who are teaching them all what the Prince of Peace commanded! Matthew 28:19-20 Anything outside that like schools and hospitals has nothing to do with CHRISTIANITY!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:40am On Jul 16, 2022 |
TenQ: How could some people be so dumb as not to see!? I wonder o!  Believing everything someone taught and even practicing it yet saying you don't believe the teacher is from God!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:58am On Jul 16, 2022 |
advocatejare: But you call yourself Jehovah witness and not Jesus witness. And the Christians that shed blood never claimed that Jesus taught them to do so. Is it the name a group is called that matters or their ability to do God's will? Matthew 7:21-23  For your information Jesus' disciples never call themselves by any group name it was the inhabitants of Antioch that called them CHRISTIANS because they were PRACTICING what Jesus who is called CHRIST! advocatejare: Stop writing long epistles to hide your lies! Were the people of Jericho killed during the attack or not? Why did the spy promise to spare Rahab’s life and those of her households when they come for Jericho? Will they have said they will spare their lives if they weren’t planning on killing the others? Guy this people acted on the instructions God gave them against enemies of pure worship not fighting their neighbours who are also fellow believers. Today which country do you think they can fight against one another and Christians as you call them won't kill their fellow believers? Rahab believe in JEHOVAH that's what saved her but others don't! advocatejare: Joshua 6:17 “…Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall live, because she hid the messengers whom we sent” Joshua 6:21 “Then they devoted all in the city to destruction, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys, with the edge of the sword. According to the instructions from God which the inhabitants of Jericho already knew before then that their failure to surrender the land to Jacob's descendants who are the rightful owners of the land will lead to their death nah! Today which country is fighting for JEHOVAH against anyone that's fighting for the devil?  advocatejare: Then you are ignorant and I doubt you were ever a muslim like you claim. Sunni Muslims will kill Shia Muslims and that’s why Elzakyzaky Shia are facing persecution from the Sunni in Nigeria even though they are both Muslims. You don't understand what i'm saying! Muslims don't think of sparing anyone when they're going to war, for instance a Muslim in the US army will not spare Muslims in Afghanistan no matter the sect because he is fighting for a country not religion. That's what i'm saying. JWs will never raise weapons against anyone because we must love them as our neighbours if not our brothers in faith. Islam gave no room for that. When you're fighting for you country there's no reason for you to think of sparing the lives of your fellow believers in SPIRIT and TRUTH! advocatejare: Your members that marry non JW wives, do they allow their wives receive blood transfusion if she chooses to? First of all anyone who marries a none JW is not regarded as a faithful JW because we must marry only within the faith. Secondly it's a personal thing JWs always go everywhere with a card titled "NO BLOOD" so it's what the card says that matters because that's the wish of the one carrying it. But when someone doesn't believe that JWs don't intervene in the person's choice of treatment!  advocatejare: You twist Bible verses and deliberately misinterpret God’s word. Blood loss is the commonest cause of women dying from childbirth and blood transfusion has been shown to reduce death from blood loss but you prevent your members from saving their lives by taking blood transfusion because of your misinterpretation Once again that's what each member choose to do with his/her own life it has nothing to do with you who is just a neighbour. Try to understand that first, if my faith only affects me it has nothing to do with you nah!  advocatejare: The Oro worshippers never lie that they believe in Jehovah and they never twisted Bible verses to send people to their early graves I like the fact that you are equating your cult to that or Oro and Masqueraders but those two don’t form attachment to Jehovah and they don’t twist the Bible to suit their delusions This is where you need understanding! People globally believe in the Almighty God but they just don't know his ways so if the Oro people believe something about God Almighty that differs from mine all i can do is PREACH to a member peacefully because that's his choice and if his faith has no negative impact in my life i have no right to criticize him. Catholics are supporting wars that's why Russia and Ukraine are fighting today. Majority of these people are claiming Christians under the umbrella of Orthodox Churches but their activities is affecting all those living in the two countries that's what we are saying here not what they believe that has nothing to do with those in their neighbourhood!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:27am On Jul 16, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:25am On Jul 16, 2022 |
Mikee19: MaxInDHouse pls try to at least read up on things carefully to reply appropriately. What I responded to specified GREEK scriptures for a reason...
The rabbis of old did indeed replace the name given to them by Moses for God in the scriptures with tetragrammar because they felt it was too Holy to be called in full. It was NOT the Catholics or any professing Christian who did this! That, again, is why i referred to GREEK scriptures! Even then it wasn't "changed undetected"; everyone knew it was God's name then when they read it. And in our bibles it is replaced with LORD in all capitals so we can identify it. Again, not undetected.
But all that becomes a very different matter entirely in the, again, like I said, GREEK SCRIPTURES! There is absolutely no hint of tetragrammar at all in there at all! Not even one! The word used all through is the Greek for "Lord" (not all capitals unlike the Hebrew scriptures). Now if like cornelboy claimed this was actually God's name "Jehovah" or tetragrammar, that was changed by the ppl who handled the original manuscript, such that no trace even exists in all the whole manuscripts in the whole world anymore, then this is calling God powerless! Because unlike in the Hebrew scriptures, there is no hint of any change WHATSOEVER! This is a claim I will never make of the Almighty living most powerful God! It is a very very serious claim against God Almighty!
No, nothing was changed! The word there is "Lord", you can even verify by looking at the kingdom interlinear of the Jehovah witnesses yourself! Nobody can change anything in God's word undetected, how then can we trust God's word?
It is hard for your organization to accept that we no longer need the name "Jehovah", "Yahweh", or whatever the tetragrammar stood for in this dispensation. How do you address your own father? Can u call him by his own name? Doesn't that destroy the relationship you will have with him is instead of calling him "dad" you call him by his first name? And yet you think that's cool with God!
When Jesus taught the disciples to pray, he said, say, "our Father who art in heaven"! This makes God a PERSONAL FATHER to you!
We have a closer relationship with God through Jesus than the Israelites did. That name is NOT relevant to the New Testament church. You need to be born again so that u can have that close relationship with God and call him Father rather than Jehovah! Jesus Christ ruled out the erroneous teachings of those rabbis by teaching his own disciples to always use God's personal name! Matthew 6:9; John 17:6,26 So that's what makes someone a Christian not following the stupid man-made traditions of those who substituted God's Holy name with titles that can be used for lesser spirits! 1Corinthians 8:5-6 LORD is not God's name but a title! |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:19am On Jul 16, 2022 |
TenQ: You clearly don't need no response! Of course all you need is a rethink! Whatever makes you believe and practice all what Muhammad taught makes you one of his disciples, simple as ABC!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:41am On Jul 16, 2022 |
Jokerman: So Archangel Michael is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.... Rev 19:16? Remember Michael is one of the chief princes
Also, In Matthew 28:18, Jesus tells His disciples, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” This cannot be said of the Archangel Michael who, as Jude tells us, could not rebuke Satan; only God can do that. As one with the Father, Christ can rebuke the Devil also. The case between Satan and Michael occurred before or after he was given all authority? You people don't use your brains at all! Archangel Michael met Satan almost 3,000 years before God gave him that authority after he has put on flesh and successfully finished his earthly mission {John 19:30} so it's after then he was given a new name that's above all other names. But before then he was Michael that's the truth!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:35am On Jul 16, 2022 |
Mikee19: I wish i can have just 2hrs discussion with u. U are already throwing stuff u have no idea about. Who removed what? You have proof of this? You are turning out to be just like the others who say things they don't know for sure, except that one organization told them this.
Can you provide evidence for this claim? Does there exist ANY MANUSCRIPT IN THE WORLD where the name "Jehovah" exists in the New Testament ( "Greek scriptures" ) , or even the tetragrammation, and it was removed and replaced with "Lord"? No, you cannot, because it doesn't exist
Several thousands of manuscript have come down to us, not single one backs up this claim! Can you access the kingdom interlinear of the Jehovah witnesses? Surely u can see that in the Greek "Lord" is what appears, NOT anything else?
Moreso do u know the real implication of this claim? That right under God's "nose" in preserving his written word, somebody somewhere can come and change it, or a part of it, without leaving any traces? Such that ALL THE WHOLE MANUSCRIPTS IN THE WHOLE WORLD don't contain the word "Jehovah" in any form, tetragrammation inclusive, and God cannot prevent that? How then are you sure he can prevent anybody else from making any other changes to his word if he cannot prevent that from happening? Heck, how do u know no other part of the Bible has been changed undetected again? You have NO way of knowing! It's either God can protect his word from being changed, or he cannot. You are really claiming God CANNOT protect his word from alteration. He cannot keep it from being changed. It is God's power you're really challenging!
Be careful the things u say. God can protect his word. This is an unfounded JW claim that attacks the power of God. On the one hand they claim they can trust his word because he can preserve it without alteration. Then turn right around to say, "yes he can but only this one he couldn't". Don't throw such slap in the face of God. He preserved his word unaltered. Read Psalms 110:1 Then try to say use it to preach about your God when the listener can't read and see how stupid those who replaced God's PERSONAL name with title "LORD"  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:32am On Jul 16, 2022 |
mhmsadyq: Oga, speak for your religion. You can't deny Muhammad and claim to remain/be a Muslim. Who does that? You're totally a FOOL! Imagine a person believes everything Muhammad taught and he's doing it but he's a dumb that can't speak. Do you think you can ever hear a single word from a dumb? Is he not practicing everything Allah sent Muhammad to do? So what excludes him from being a believer if he's practicing everything the last prophet taught? You people are just bunch of fools walahi talahi!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:24am On Jul 16, 2022 |
advocatejare: Did you also read where he said that belief in him will turn family against each other? But there was no bloodshed from the part of Jesus' disciples! advocatejare: How were the people of Jericho enemies of pure worship? Did they attack Israel or Israel attack them? They heard that Israelites had been freed from Egypt and JEHOVAH is bringing them back to the place they formerly live before going to Egypt so it's not what the Israelites wanted but what the Almighty God who singlehandedly freed millions of people from slavery without a single fight. That's what a prostitute in the same place (Rahab) got into her head {Joshua 2:9-21} and JEHOVAH rewarded her greatly even making sure that her name is written in the book of life. Let's see how Jesus resurrects faithful people and forget his great grandmother Rahab! Matthew 5:5 So all other were enemies of pure worship for standing in the way of God Almighty who wanted to establish pure worship in Canaan! advocatejare: If they are of the same sect Muslims has no such sect, it's only those with them presently the know, they don't believe in SPIRIT and TRUTH worship where they have faith in people they're not seeing as fellow believers! advocatejare: Yours is an ignorant cult brainwashing your members with twisted Bible verses You've cleared us from guilt since it's all about our members who submitted to our teachings worldwide not neighbours nah! advocatejare: You are trying to force it on me by asking me to come and join your cult of twisting Bible verses to suit your belief! That’s exactly what JW are doing NO! It's the truth that's making you feel bad, we preach not force so it's either you accept it or count us among demon possessed people after all you know masqueraders and Oro in your community, are you fighting them for practicing their faith? NO! So count us as such ones and allow us practice our faith since it's a free world! advocatejare: Then stop lying that you’re following the commands of Jehovah when you have twisted his laws for selfish reasons Do you agree that there is freedom of speech, expression, worship and association? If we are lying it's our problem not yours! Masqueraders claim that the man under the mask is their dead father so we are also free to believe whatever we want it's not by force! advocatejare: What you believe by misinterpreting God’s words! Practicing what is not producing the fruitage of FAITH! Catholics may build hospitals, schools and other things to woo their slaves but we know that they're not Christians from all what they've done in the past and presently worshiping images. I know you're not Catholic but the truth is just hurting you because you feel like supporting talks against Islam. That's not what Jesus sent his followers to do rather we are to preach and teach people about God's Kingdom and the fruit expected thereof. If Muslims don't believe in God's Son then there's no need criticizing them they're already on the road to destruction {John 3:16-18} so what sincere ones among them need now is the fruitage of FAITH that no organization can produce {Matthew 7:16-18} not schools and hospitals that even atheists do build. That's what misinterpretation as well as misrepresentation means Sir!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:12pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
TenQ: I don't have any problems with 1. Belief in God 2. praying five times a day; 3. giving zakat, or donating a certain portion of one's wealth; 4. fasting during Ramadan; and 5. making a pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia.
HOWEVER, I do not believe that Mohammed is a Prophet of God nor His Messager. (Based on several issues)
Is it possible to be a Moslem with this condition?
The funny thing here is that the so called Muslims arguing with you are as dumb as you are! Whoever makes Christ's teachings his way of life has become a Christian, it's as simple as that. So if you're practicing everything Muhammad taught but saying you don't believe that the same Muhammad who brought the teachings is not a prophet of God then your brain need a reset!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:08pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
TenQ: If only you had read a few post (between the lines) before judging. Shalom Your shalom is useless if you lack basic truth! Nobody knows Muhammad before he started preaching those things so if you believe (trust) in his teachings you're already a Muslim, leave Muhammad name out of this. Practice it all and see how Muslims throughout the world will embrace you as their brother. You only prove to be an insane when you speak against the name of a prophet whom you've made your role model!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:02pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
advocatejare: Africans already had weapons and were already killing one another before the Whitemen came. Whitemen only brought a superior firepower so they didn’t teach us to kill our neighbors/brothers, it was what we had been practicing before they came. So what exactly did Christ brought that made him the PRINCE of PEACE?  advocatejare: If Jehovah didn’t permit killing Israel’s neighbors by Israel, Israel would have been exterminated as a country and salvation would not have reached gentiles which you are among Naaaaaaaaaa Jehovah never permit Israelites to kill neighbours but enemies of pure worship try to understand that! He warned them not to attack some people who didn't oppose pure worship. Gibeonites were killed by an Israelite King but Jehovah caused a famine in Israel for killing their innocent neighbours! 2Samuel 21:1-6 So learn from us our God hates killing our neighbours except on the ground of opposition of pure worship! advocatejare: It is you that lack the basic understanding of the difference. Jesus Christ enjoins you to love your neighbor (not your brother) as your yourself. Someone you love as yourself is more than a brother Well you can read Jesus' comments yourself it's there in all versions of the Bible: Love neighbours as yourself! Mark 12:31 Love fellow believers as Christ loves you! John 13:34-35; 15:12-14  advocatejare: You’re antagonizing yourself. Muslims love their brothers as themselves but not their neighbors as themselves and that is why they cause chaos to those they see as not brothers(including those with different sects of Islam) So Muslims will not raise weapons against the next country due to the love they had for their brothers in Islam there, shey? Ọmọ humble yourself and learn from true disciples of Christ!  advocatejare: That is why I said that you lack understanding of what you wrote. If I like my JW neighbors as myself and I see how your founder deliberately misinterpreted the scriptures that forbids drinking of dead animals’ blood like the occult do to mean not accepting blood transfusion from a living human being (including their own blood that was pre stored) and leading to many being sent to the graves, then I’m not a good neighbor You missed the import of God's word! Come on. Whatever your neighbour believe is his own problem with his God as long as he's not forcing it on you that's what loving your neighbour as yourself means. Do you think a Muslim should come and force you to join him in worshiping his God simply because he's trying to prevent you from going to HellFire? Whatever i believe is my own problem not yours even if i die for my faith as long as i'm not forcing it on you!  advocatejare: Are you not willing to convert non JW into your JW cult everyday? When you marry a non-JW, don’t you expect the person to conform to the practice of your cult? We preach and teach what we believe so if you feel you're wiser than us there is no problem, we continue our search for faithful people who are ready to do whatever it takes to be like our father Abraham and become the friend of our God. So if you're not interested we're cool!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:35pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:17pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
TenQ: You'll be a waste of precious time for my response for my standard in Christ Jesus is much higher than any five pillars of Islam. If you cant read up in context, too bad. Spiritual illiteracy is your problem! Once you're ready to do all what you said then you're already a disciple of Muhammad who brought those things, so whether you acknowledge him or not you're already his disciples for believing in his teachings!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want To Convert To Islam by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:37pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
TenQ: I don't have any problems with 1. Belief in God 2. praying five times a day; 3. giving zakat, or donating a certain portion of one's wealth; 4. fasting during Ramadan; and 5. making a pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia.
HOWEVER, I do not believe that Mohammed is a Prophet of God nor His Messager. (Based on several issues)
Is it possible to be a Moslem with this condition?
Funny misinformed Churchgoers!  If you don't believe in Muhammad then who taught all these things you mentioned? Well that's what true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) are telling you people, don't believe in Jesus but practice what he taught then see if your denial will make any sense when you're obeying all the rules he gave without calling him "Lord" Matthew 7:21-23  |