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advocatejare:
The good white people that brought free education, orthodox health care are better neighbors that the JW that have allowed people to die for refusing blood transfusion because of deliberate misinterpretation of the scripture forbidding drinking of killed animal blood to mean not accepting human blood transfusion!

They brought schools and build hospitals but supported the use of weapons and wars as they kill people indiscriminately!

So in what way are they better neighbours than JWs who will never raise weapons against anyone despite their beliefs no matter how odd it may sound to you?

You don't know the difference between neighbours and brothers.
You and your brothers may have traditions that may sound really stupid to neighbours {1Corinthians 2:14} but as a neighbour you don't apply it on others since they're not your brothers.

If that's how all religionists like Muslims are practicing their religion within themselves do you think neighbours will be complaining?

JWs practicing what they believe within their own gathering has nothing to do with you as a neighbour, but Catholics and others politically oriented religions force their policies on neighbours that's what Jesus is against.

So no matter how stupid my faith may sound to you it's practiced within our brothers in the faith it has nothing to do with my neighbour!

advocatejare:
Tell us the story Jesus told us about the Good Samaritan!

Samaritans (Northern ten tribes) are also Israelites so they're supposed to be brothers but after the death of Solomon the nation broke into two parts living just the two ruling tribes of Benjamin and Judah in the South.

After the breakup Samaritans built another temple in Samaria on mouth Gerisim and begin their own worship in the name of the same God but all the prophets of the true God condemned what the Samaritans did (including prophets like Elijah who was also a Samaritan by birth)

So the strife went on for centuries until Christ came and declared that all what Samaritans were practicing in Samaria is rubbish before God because Salvation originates with those having the original temple (Jews) John 4:22

Now the case of the Samaritan who helped the robbed Jew!

Though the Jews look down on Samaritans due to the impure worship they practice on mount Gerisim and it has led to unending enmity between the two nations {John 4:7-9} a Jew was robbed only for his fellow Jews like Priest and Levite to ignore him in agony, then a Samaritan took the best care of him despite the ongoing enmity between the two nations.

Jesus then asked:

"Who of these three seems to you to have made himself NEIGHBOR to the man who fell victim to the robbers?” Luke 10:36

Jesus used this illustration to stress the need for us to love our neighbour the same way we want to be loved {Mark 12:31} but there's one thing most people failed to observe in this story: Jesus was answering a question that says "who is my neighbour" {Luke 10:29} because from his preaching and teaching Jesus seems to give no room for his listeners to create or have enemies rather he's trying to say everyone should be love!
So the Jews who believe only in fellow Jews need to learn that people of other religion may not be our brothers in faith {Matthew 12:56-60} but everyone is a neighbour that we must love as we expect to be loved.

But as for our brothers in Christ Jesus gave us something totally different from that of a neighbour:

"Little children, I am with you a little longer. You will look for me; and just as I said to the Jews, ‘Where I go you cannot come,’ I now say it also to you. I AM GIVING YOU A NEW COMMANDMENT, THAT YOU LOVE ONE ANOTHER; JUST AS I HAVE LOVED YOU, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves. John 13:34-35

So true Christians love everyone as our neighbours but as for fellow JWs out Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus commanded us to love each one as Christ loves us meaning a JW should be prepared to die (if the need arises) for a fellow JW! John 15:12-13 compare to Galatians 6:10

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
Lot of things to be clarified but it's a pity most people hate clarification!

Satan is the one behind all these confusion!

From the beginning what Satan and other fallen angels want is to rule over humans but how are they going to do so without enticing their subjects with spiritism?
Imagine a world where everyone is equal and no one is serving as slave or servant to another do you think most humans will be interested in worship?
If you observe intelligently you will notice that Africans and Asians are the most religious. WHY? Because the poverty level and suffering is much so most people feel like seeking the help of deities to solve their problems.
So in order to get people involved in false religions Satan and other fallen angels caused a lot of troubles during Noah's time making most humans feel as if they can't enjoy life if they're not living like gods and dominating their fellowman.
That's how stealing, cheating and fraudulent acts became the order of the day among humans.

But when God formed a nation (Israel) He made it clear to them that their spirituality isn't just for selfish cravings rather they're to live holy lives {Leviticus 20:7} whereas Satan and other fallen angels (gods) only want worship and nothing more!

The true God established that nation and gave them rules like a constitution which all other nations do not have, that's why Satan and his demons started attacking Israel to subdue the nation and rule out that system.

So ruling over a nation of people and setting standards for them wasn't Satan's intention because all he wanted people to do is for each and everyone to do whatever they like to become rich but they only need to bow down to him. Satan keep supporting his worshipers with wealth and power making them feel like ruling over the whole earth but whenever his human agents come towards Israel Jehovah fights and destroy everything Satan's agents had back then.
Israelites only needed to keep God's covenant and no nation no matter what Satan has helped them to acquire can stand against God's people.

But the Israelites lost it at last and God took away the glory He gave them until His anointed King (Christ) will take over power from Satan and chain Satan and all his demons!

We are getting closer to that time now so Satan is trying to gather people throughout the earth against Jesus. Revelations 16:14-16
Of course humans are like dust before Jesus because he created all of us and he can kill all of us with just a blow. But what is Satan and his cohorts trying to do?

Jesus has no moral right to arrest and chain Satan if he can't find anyone to be his subjects on planet earth because that's the only reason he use to justify the imprisonment of Satan. So Jesus must first assemble millions of obedient mankind as his own subjects, it's on behalf of these ones that Jesus has the right to arrest Satan who is making life unbearable for those obedient citizens of God's Kingdom.

So if Satan should allow Jesus to assemble this obedient people then his time is up. That's why Satan and his cohorts are creating more and more religious sects to complicate issues for people, then on the other hand fighting against Jesus' subjects by using his agents to criticize them from all sides.

Well Jesus has assured us that if not for his anointed brothers (BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS) who have slaved and are still working round the clock to educate us no human will survive the destruction of evildoers but on account of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses who has successfully gathered millions of obedient mankind under one big and happy family of peace loving organization {Isaiah 2:2-4} millions will witness the end of this system of things! Matthew 24:22

So we are all neighbours on planet earth but only those having the same faith are brothers! Matthew 12:46-50

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Emusan:
In fact, that very Prov 8:22 says Wisdom was POSSESSED by Jehovah before "His WORKS of OLD"
Isn't Jesus supposed to be PART of the WORKS?
DEFINITELY the wisdom predates creation and not part of creations (works)

"Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?" Proverbs 8:1

God has always had WISDOM because it's part of His attributes but God's WISDOM became manifest when he created the first creature:

"The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old." Proverbs 8:22

Who is the creature that stand as a witness for the WISDOM of God?

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. 1Corinthians 1:24


So all the attributes of God became evident at the birth of the firstborn of all creation {Colossians 1:15} it's when God created this person that it became evident that God has all those attributes.

For instance we may know someone for ages but can't perceive his fine qualities, it's after he begin creativity that we can see what things he had in mind. So Jesus who created all other things is the WITNESS that God has all those attributes just as the creative works of a craftsman is the WITNESS of good things he had in mind!

ANTIlSLAM:
It is now Roman, it is NO more Emperor Constantine abi .. Thank your God that you're with ANTIISLAM, See this your brain ehn na me go repair am for you, just count yourself lucky sogbo
I've told you earlier don't deviate, I won't give room for that sogbo
Sacred Heart Hospital you visited for your healing was built by Catholic Church, THE QUESTION YOU ARE TRYING TO DODGED IS Whose footsteps did you follow by visiting this hospital for your healing? Did Jesus Christ ever visited hospital?
Shey Catholic church used money they got from your goverment to build Sacred Heart Hospital in Abeokuta for your useful and the rest from your occultist JW religion nii?
Why didn't you visited the one built by your government or your JW? Is that not stupidity for you visiting the one built by those you're condemning ?
So do they force people to join Catholicism mission is the question with proof. Are you this daft and moribund?
This is the second time I'll be asking you this. Is Samuel Ajayi Crowther a Catholic Bishop? If YES, who forced him to join catholic mission?
Don't be this stupid, answer my question and stop dodging
Did I listed Nigeria among the Islamic countries that banned your occultist religion activities in their countries?
Is your medulla oblongata faulty? Thank your creator that you're with ANTIISLAM, I will help you repair am at a cheapest price
Why do they banned your JW from creating nuisance to their environment?
Did Jesus Christ erected kingdom Hall your Elders gather you to brainwashed you guys?
Did Jesus Christ carried one useless bag and umbrella with watchtower in his hands?
Did Jesus Christ used the internet your gullible JW are using today?
Did you follow what Jesus Christ erected?
Give yourself and the rest of your JW's a suitable name, YOU GUYS ARE BIG FOOL shey know?
Thought you said your occultist JW religion is waxing stronger in Islamic states not until I burst you and to give us the address of your Kingdom Hall in any of these Islamic states so as to patronize you is the problem.
Those Islamic governments banned your occultist JW religion because of the nuisance you're creating by carrying one useless bag and umbrella with watchtower disturbing the peace of the people
WHEN WILL YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION?
Shey na your Elders in JW tell you say Christians shouldn't participate in Military services?

The funny thing is that since you're not original you can't appreciate what is original!

You stupidly created a moniker "ANTIISLAM" just to counteract a Nairalander "AntiChristian" that's enough to show that you're not original and can never appreciate anything original.

So continue with your delusion, just know that those that makes schools, hospitals and other things for the general public are not Christians rather they're POLITICIANS!

sagenaija:
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The question was simple. Your answer displays your deceptive tactics.

Your quest is ambiguous nah, so you can't dictate both side. You asked your question in the public and respond must also come with the public in mind!

ANTIlSLAM:
You will only continue disgracing JW here, to bring your proof from a reliable source that Emperor Constantine initiated Catholic Church is difficult for your elders in JW to answer through you.
Wherw did Jesus Christ told his disciples not to participate in Military, why answering questions an abomination in your religion?

Romans created the Catholic Church to boost their political ambitions and nothing more but if you don't want the truth no wahala continue deceiving yourself!
Jesus never used weapons and never support it's weapons but condemned it {Matthew 26:52} actions speaks louder than words nah!

ANTIlSLAM:
You are only trying to deviate from the main discussion but I won't allow you to do that. The hospital you visited was built by the Catholics you're condemning, why don't you go to goverment hospital for your healing?
This is the question I asked you here but you want to deviate
Whose footsteps did you follow for visiting hospital?
Why didn't you visited the hospital built by government rather than visiting the one you've been condemning from ages, is that not stupidity to have taken such steps? Diversion tactics! Must you be taken to hospital especially the one built by catholic missionaries?

Politicians use Nigerian money got in Nigeria to build schools, roads, hospitals and other things. Ọmọ are those things not for public use in Nigeria?
Chai churchgoing don cause wahala for some people o!
Kumuyi, Oyedepo, Adeboye build their own and less privileged Nigerians can't go there do you know why? Well i'll TEACH you: it's because their own belongs to them as private properties and not the government that's why they needed to get approval but those Catholic institutions were built by the government in those days. So learn my friend it's not about arguing blindly or thinking about insults this are hard facts!

ANTIlSLAM:
ÒPÒNÚ AYÉRÁDÀ, wetin I asked you what are you saying
Scroll up and read again what brought up this question that need your answer
[Who are those they fought with then and on what purpose? Can you back up your claim from a reliable source that they forcefully convert people to join Catholicism?

Google, Wikipedia and Encyclopedia are all your friends, just type "Catholic Crusaders in dark ages" then come back to argue!

ANTIlSLAM:
Shey Samuel Ajayi Crowther was a Catholic Bishop or they forced him to join catholic mission kwo? aswear baaba dindinrin nii e

Chai see wahala o!
Àjàyí Crowder was a slave as in SLAVE before his freedom and because he enrolled in their mission they made him the first black bishop but gave him no regard in their own place he was to lead blacks not white in worship!

ANTIlSLAM:
Let me open your sense again, those Islamic countries I listed above allows Christians to practise their religion activities, building of Churches, temple or synagogue but never allow your occultist JW to build your kingdom hall. Can't you read again?
Did Jesus Christ erected kingdom hall you are using today? Did Jesus Christ used the internet you are using today? Did Jesus Christ carried one useless bag and umbrella with watchtower in his hands.
Scroll up again and read what brought up that statement?
Bloody liar sebi you said you Jehovah's Witnesses are in Islamic states preaching and teaching peacefully because you know their rules and you play along so as not to provoke their anger and since you aren't interested in their politics they have no issues with you.
Will you please tell us one Islamic country your occultist religion the JW has the Kingdom Hall?
You gat comprehensive problem, I said Christians are allow to build their church of worship in those islamic countries I listed above while they banned the activities of the your occultsit religion, sorry is ur name
Tell us one Islamic country your occultist religion as it kingdom hall

Islamists are killing people in their churches here in Nigeria and these are sponsored by Islamists in Arab countries yet you're here deceiving yourself.
Ọmọ àrùn ojú ni eléyìí kìí ṣe ohun tí o lè máa pa irọ́ lé lórí o!
Jesus worshiped in Jerusalem temple all his life because the New Covenant has not been sealed but after the New Covenant his disciples discovered that they can't continue worshiping with Judaists inside the temple God has condemned so they meet in homes of fellow believers.
That's what JWs do today. We meet in homes of fellow believers in places where there is religious intolerance but where there is freedom of worship we contribute to build a hall for our meetings.
But no matter the intolerance in any place we must endeavour to preach and teach by all means because that's what Jesus commanded us not building places for worship:

I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his Kingdom: [u]Preach the word; be at it urgently in favorable times and difficult times; reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all patience and art of teaching. For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the wholesome teaching, but according to their own desires, they will surround themselves with teachers to have their ears tickled. They will turn away from listening to the truth and give attention to false stories. 2Timothy 4:1-4[/b]

No be building matter nah disciple making to increase peacelovers throughout the earth in the name of now reigning King Christ Jesus! Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Matthew 28:19-20

Janosky:
Emperor Constantine's 3 deities devotees of the Council of Nicaea are the mentors of gods of men who mentors the modem day followers of the Trinity delusion whether the devotees acknowledge it or not.

Apostle Paul's letter to our first century Jewish brothers who speak Hebrew language:

"Remember those who are taking the lead among you, who have spoken the word of God to you, and as you contemplate how their conduct turns out, imitate their faith". Hebrews 13:7

Again his letter to Timothy a brother whose father was Greek:

"For this reason I remind you to stir up like a fire the gift of God that is in you through the laying of my hands on you" 2Timothy 1:6

This means the first century Christians has the tradition of having anointed teachers who taught and prayed for them, that's what made their teaching unique amidst thousands of schools of thought back then as everyone can perceive their oneness in thought! John 17:22

No wonder Jesus said:

“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!" Matthew 7:21-23

Jesus said he will condemn many religionists claiming Christians because they are workers of LAWLESSNESS or INIQUITY
What is lawlessness?
Is it not a situation where there is no oneness in thought over doctrines?
Kumuyi condemned makeup, jewelries, hairstyles and trousers for females but some pastors approved all so when a Deeperlifer see such ones they believe such ones are going to HellFire for their disobedience to God's word yet someone feels all of them are on the same page, what does that tells you of such a person?

sagenaija:
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Using your doctrinal position, if Archangel Michael were to cry to Jehovah would that mean he was no longer a god?

The problem with you people is TRINITY!
We are not relating with an angel but the Christ, what we discovered is that the one and only person who has been with God Almighty from the beginning is the angel called Michael and that is because he is the Archangel which means the one and only angel directly created by God.
So if this angel now gets promoted to a lofty position due to a successful earthly mission it doesn't make him the one who should be worshiped worship belongs to only one person and that's the Almighty God!
There are many angelic sons of God who are demanding worship due to their rebellious act but the one sent by God never did, that's why God ordered all those who want to prove their obedience to follow Christ as in learn obedience through him.
That supposed to be called OBEISANCE and not WORSHIP as some translators erroneous interpreted it.

talk2hb1:
Incoherent statement

Coherent statement!

ANTIlSLAM:
Bring your proof from a reliable source that Emperor Constantine initiated Catholic Church? You're a bloody liar and I'll keep on exposing you

Keep on agitating in pains!
Na Roman Emperors get Catholic Church!

Shey na your Elders in JW tell you say Christians shouldn't participate in Military services? you sha no go finish person with your ignorant

No mind me jàre Jesus support wars 100% just that he told his disciples to love their enemies {Matthew 5:43-48} love their neighbours {Mark 12:31} love fellow believers {John 13:34-35} and never use weapons in settling disputes {Matthew 26:52} but as for military services they can participate after all they can fulfill all his commandments even though they're killing with weapons! John 15:14

You only praised them with this your words, Those people came and stole your glory but it's like you people need to emancipated yourselves from this slavery otherwise you will never see that you're still their slaves.
Meanwhile your gullible visited the hospital they built where your glory and the rest of your JW's were stolen abi?

Chai see spiritual blindness o!
Aren't government still building hospitals and schools today? Does it stop them from stealing the masses money?
Why are you people so daft?
They are not Christians but politicians in disguise stealing your glory!

So anyone visiting the hospital they built including you and your fellow JW's are following whose footsteps? Will you answer this? Shey Jesus Christ ever visited hospital for medical attention while on earth? May Jehovah heal you sogbo

Government build hospitals and Mumu you said they're Christians, isn't it the money they got from our land that they used in building the schools, hospitals, power plants and roads?
Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself. Don't forget to include all those things because it's the same British Government that brought them all!

As a JW's must you be taking to hospital especially the one built by Catholic missionaries? whose footsteps did you follow here?
LIAR!! You're busted again, but you said this in quote:
"I know the sacred heart hospital and i've been there several times both as a patient and visitor and i can assure you that it's nothing compared to hospitals in European countries!"
Why changing your words that:
"I attended school and was taken to the hospital both did their job..."
You're a bloody liar aswear

Those ruling over the land build schools, roads, hospitals and power stations. What has that got to do with them being Christians?
For your information, if the islamists also take power they will do exactly the same thing in the name of their God. Does that makes them worshipers of God?

Who are those they fought with then and on what purpose? Can you back up your claim from a reliable source that they forcefully convert people to join Catholicism? I pray this question won't be too hard for you to answer

Ọmọ come see ignorance at it's peak o!
So who were the slave traders?
Did the church stop their white men from enslaving black people in Jesus name?
Chai Samuel Àjàyí Crowder don die we for ask am whether those who made him bishop had the same regard for him as they do for white bishops. Ọ̀DẸ̀!

You are ignorant like your elders in JW.. Temples, Churches, Synagogue, Even Church Buildings and Structures are there in those Islamic Countries I mentioned above EXCEPT SAUDI ARABIA. Christians from different denominations are allowed to practise their religious activities except your occultist religion the JW that they banned from carrying out your religion activities
You'll only keep on exposing your occultist religion, the JW with your ignorant. keep it up sogbo

Mo gbọ mo jábọ́, ìkòkò 'dí mí ré lulẹ̀ ó fọ́!
So it's your HellFire churches islamists allowed but easygoing JWs who don't make any noise counteracting their call to prayers they allow shey?
Ọmọ small small nah!

Are you showering praising words here with this your utterances?
Those people came and stole your glory but it's like you people need to emancipated yourselves from this slavery otherwise you will never see that you're still their slaves.
Did Jesus Christ erected kingdom hall you are using today? Did Jesus Christ used the internet you are using today? Did Jesus Christ carried one useless bag and umbrella with watchtower in his hands

OK it's the church that brought the internet and bags shey?
Each religion introduces what they've got but the first thing they must not forget is about the Good News of God's Kingdom, i can see your churches preaching it while members are in the army to fight and kill your enemies in Jesus name, Amen!

Church also means a building used for public Christian worship. We have Christians with Church buildings and structures in those Islamic countries I listed above except in Saudi Arabia.
Now answer this question, you can invite your elders in JW's to help you out
Except in Saudi Arabia give us the address of your kingdom hall in those islamic countries I listed above since you lied earlier that Jehovah's Witnesses are in Islamic states preaching and teaching peacefully because you know their rules and you play along so as not to provoke their anger and since you aren't interested in their politics they have no issues with you.

First give us the address of your noisemaking buildings you call "churches" in Islamists States nah!
Islamists here in Africa are killing church people and you're here telling people that their grandpa islamist states allow you people in their own country.
Haba! Which kain shameless liar be this o?

So those Islamists killing people here aren't practicing what their fellow believers are doing in Islamic nations shey?
Then why blaming Muslims for terrorist act nah? After all their fellow believers in Islamic nations aren't against your churches!

Guy try to recap your lies it's falling off through the cover Sir!

talk2hb1:
Blocking Out Emotion how can you proof it

How do you prove that people can watch what is happening thousands of miles away in their living room?
Is it not by getting a TV?
So what happens to those who refuses to buy or watch TVs? Can they know what is happening like those watching it live with their eyes on the screen of the TV?

I've told you times without number that God has used his active force to gather millions of people who are humble and obedient to form a global family of peace loving worshipers. Isaiah 2:2-4

What positive change has your rational thinking done to make people stop killing their neighbours? Can you present any group of people whose rational thinking has taken away weapons from the hands and hearts of their members?

advocatejare:
Irrational submission as usual. Did Jesus use internet that you are using today? Did Jesus print watchtower pamphlets that you are using today?
The whitemen built hospitals for you, they taught your people basic science and made you know that conditions like Sickle cell disease is a blood disorder and not due to the child being an ogbanje, but the ungrateful you is now demonizing them.
The cult that you call JW group has sent many to their early graves because your founder misinterpreted not eating the blood of animals like the occults to mean that Jw should not accept blood transfusion hence you have sent many to their early graves, their blood is on your head for misleading them!

Why do people always go off track anytime someone tells you the truth like this?

Listen and get the sense of what i'm saying!

I'm not condemning civilization or technology but don't bring it in as things done for Christ because that's not what Jesus sent his followers to go out there to do! Matthew 28:18-20

Read Jesus' words and meditate thoroughly on it stop blurring your senses with what Jesus never taught his disciples to do all because such things were done by politicians claiming Christians!

ANTIlSLAM:
The Roman Catholic Church is an ancient religious institution while British Government is the government of United Kingdom, domestically referred to as Her Majesty's Government, is the central government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Do they sound the same or are they in for the same purpose, aims and objectives

What was the aim and objectives of emperor Constantine who initiated the Catholics church? POLITICS!
So both the British Government and Roman Catholic Church had the same objectives Sir that's why both are in support of leading and settling issues with the use of WEAPONS! Matthew 26:52

Name one standard your JW as set in Nigeria? hope you'll answer this

That Christians aren't supposed to participate in politics, racism and military services so that Jesus will be fully represented by peace loving worshipers who don't even protest against the government but keep anticipating God's Kingdom. That's what Jesus commissioned Sir! Act 1:8

So you know the hospital and you are there condemning it. Why can't you go to goverment hospital or your own JW hospital for healing? Why did you have to patronized the hospital you've been condemning for ages?

There you go misconstruing everything!
I'm not condemning hospitals and schools but i'm saying both aren't what Jesus commissioned as assigned duties for his disciples. So anyone doing that is not doing so for Christ whom we should follow his footsteps not going off track claiming we are doing it in his name! Matthew 15:7-8

The last time you visited the hospital, the doctors and nurses that attended to you are they whitemen from Europe or Nigerians like you?
Will you answer this too?

I attended school and was taken to the hospital both did their job which has nothing to do with the assignment Jesus gave his disciples the preaching and teaching of Good News of God's Kingdom, that's what i'm telling you Sir!

Thank God you said BACK THEN, are they still fighting, killing and forcefully converting people to join Catholicism till today as your brothers in Islam are killing people for muhammad and allah till today and forcefully converting people to join islam. WILL YOU ANSWER THIS LIKEWISE?

If they started by fighting and killing people to enforce their religion then it simply means what they infused in the hearts of our people back then has nothing to do with Christ whose real followers must not fight anyone even their enemies talkless forcing their beliefs on others! Luke 9:51-56

LIAR! LIAR!!! LIAR!!! The activities of your JW are banned in these below Islamic countries, so please stop lying for JW here, you can only deceive the gullible like you and not ANTIISLAM
1. Afghanistan
2. Algeria
3. Bahrain
4. Brunei
5. Comoros
6. Djibouti
7. Egypt
8. Enritrea
9. Iran
10. Iraq
11. Kuwait
12. Lebanon
13. Libya
14. Mauritania
15. Morocco
16. Oman
17. Qatar
18. SAUDI ARABIA
19. Singapore
20. Somalia
21. Syria
22. Tajikistan
23. Tunisia
24. Turkmenistan
25. U.A.E
26. Uzbekistan
27. Vietnam
28. Yemen
If you understand their rules why are your activities banned in these countries?
You can only deceive mumu like you sogbo

You're really funny my guy!
OK because Christendom churches aren't allowed to erect structures in those places you concluded that JWs can't operate there shey?
Ọmọ come and let's teach you real Christianity where we operate without disturbing the neighbourhood with unwarranted noise.
Let me tell you a secret: before 2017 there are just three countries on earth where JWs aren't operating at all and none of them is an Islamic nation! So it's those claiming Christians that are attacking us not islamists because our activities exposes them as misrepresentation for Christ who has no business with politics!

Shey na your Elders in JW tell you say Jesus Christ is a Christian? Which Christianity did Jesus commissioned for?
You don't build hospitals and schools but your gullible could visited Hospital bullt by Catholicism you've been condemning from ages abi
Did Jesus Christ planted building Kingdom hall, did Jesus Christ planted carrying one useless bag and umbrella with watchtower? Can you answer this please

You can continue with your insults but be rest assured that Jesus never erected any structure neither did his disciples call any worship center "CHURCH" they only meet in places conducive for them and it was until after 1914 that JWs decided to build Halls for our meetings instead of always having to meet in one brother's place or renting Halls for our meetings!

Read your Bible!
Church means the gathering not the buildings.
So if we're not permitted to build Halls in any country that doesn't stop us from meeting together or preaching and teaching in such a country Sir!

Each person can create his/her own God depending on how he/she feels, you have done just that by making your mind over to believe in your own understanding. So no amount of argument or debate can change what you've concluded in your mind.

The one and only true God didn't leave those seeking Him in the dark that's why He gave us a book of books called "Bible"
This book contains 66 little books having 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses.

Of course there are many other books people do claim are inspired of one God or another so the true God gave us an indisputable evidence that no other book can meet up.

The God of the Bible promised that by the time politics has eating deep into the minds of humans and they're killing themselves over politics {Revelations 6:3-4} He will dispense His active force to gather faithful and peace loving people throughout the earth under one umbrella!

Despite the fact that there are many religions claiming they know God yet fighting and killing their neighbours how will the true God do this?

He promised that His active force will begin operating on a group of people {Joel 2:28-30} they will start going to meet their neighbours {Malachi 3:16} and using His word (Bible) to preach and teach one another {Isaiah 2:2-3} then what they learned will begin to manifest in the way they reason so that instead of thinking about past errors they will resolve all their racial disparities among themselves, they will divert their resources into the production of food and information materials, they will stop producing, marketing or using weapons against their fellowman and they will never think of war again! Isaiah 2:4 compare to Psalms 46:9

So while others are using force to stop their fellow humans from engaging in wars the true God will use His active force to stop Wars in the midst of His own worshipers globally as they will be thinking of how to make peace reign like Him! John 17:22

Has this been fulfilled today?
YES it's happening live as in our generation is witnessing the fulfilment of this words.
So if you can't see any sense in that then your God (heart) is enough for you just as each person has his/her own heart to trust instead of this wise God! Proverbs 3:5-6

May you have PEACE!

AntiChristian:
Atheist too do all this as well as many foundations! Dangote foundation and Ganduje foundation have doing these for tens of years!

Talk another one!

Well that's what i've been telling your friends here, what Jesus commissioned can never be found working in any group of persons except those connected to Jesus and his father.
That's why he said:

"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit.  A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:16-18

If atheist groups can do something then such is not what Jesus planned to do because no other group of imperfect humans can ever meet up with the fruit expected of FAITH in God! John 14:6

talk2hb1:
We are talking of rational thinking, not some fantasy fallacies

Well what positive result has such rational thinking brought in any group of persons?

We're talking about what is affecting humanity that intellectuals have formed several organizations yet no organization has come up with a positive results and members of these organizations are still building destructive weapons and buying it to kill fellow members!

If you're thinking about development that has been there and gradually increasing whether people believe in God or not, but as for peaceful coexistence mankind has failed woefully.
That's what the SUPREME BEING (GOD) and lesser spirit beings (angels) can do but your rational thinking can't do anything about that!

Janosky:
Achorladey refer mumu question to your Crew of OLAADEGBU, immaculateSense, Oteneaaron and others.

Achorladey has confirmed that Psalm 89:7 is the only verse in his Bible.
Other verses ,Psalm 89:5 -11 PROVEN God's Ownership of His heaven dwelling Creatures in Jehovah's Organization don't exist in his delusion.

Atheist dey form believer.

Tueh !!!!!!!!!!!!

I have said it repeatedly that these people are atheists in disguise!

The title GOD connotes SUPREME BEING so if you believe in God truthfully then you should be able to present the group practicing what your God says, in the absence of that you're indirectly saying "there is no God!" James 2:18-26

GoodIsGod:
That means there were never christians after the apostles before they founded JW.
Be deceiving yourself.

The highlighted is excellent!

So don't allow the majority's path {Exodus 23:1-2} blur your senses {Matthew 7:13-14} if there were no preaching and teaching from house to house and door to door making disciples of peace loving worshipers in those dark ages then it means Jesus parable of the seed began fulfilment immediately after the first century Jewish disciples fell asleep in death! Matthew 13:25

ANTIlSLAM:
Are they politicians too?
Please do me a favour, tell your elders in JW to take you back to kingdom's hall and do thorough brain check-up for you
As your elders in JW stole your glory abi thereby carrying one useless bag with outdated umbrella walking around the streets disturbing people's peace with your watchtower
Who are the Nigerians that travel to Europe for medical checkup and who build the said hospital in quote (Sacred Heart Hospital), are they your elders in JW or Nigeria Politicians?
Is like your brain need settings, this hospital is still there in Ogun state functioning well as Jerryhare just confirmed, can't you read again?
Who tell you say this hospital is no more functioning?
So hospital built in 1885 as my brother said, still functioning till today and one of the best in Abeokuta as confirmed by Jerryhare is not of standard abi? You are an enemy of progress, aswear you need medical attention asap. Tell us one hospital built by your elders in JW in Ogun State
The hospital was built by Roman Catholic and not the British. So Abeokuta is your home town and you didn't know if the hospital is still functioning or not, you're indeed A BASTARD SON (Omo-àlè nii e)
Roman catholic missionaries are not the same as British Cole, Craig, etc. Make use of your sense abeg
Wetin consign me with your Abeokuta you this Omo-ale jati-jati, enemy of progress. Tell your elders in JW to build their own hospital for the benefits of your people in Abeokuta.
I should ask anybody that ignorant foolish one say what?
You teenage thinking should tell your elders in Jw to borrow you sense. Carrying one useless bag with outdated umbrella by disturbing people's peace should stop.
Get this into your medulla oblongata if at all it's still functioning well that carrying bag with one useless umbrella won't solve the problem of your village people

What's the difference between Roman Catholic Church and British Government?
Well they're both religious politicians enslaving people from one place to another, you may check their history. The Catholic Church killed millions of people throughout Europe in the name of CRUSADES for Jesus back then.
They only deceived their slaves with social amenities but their real intention is to dominate the world, but after they were beating by England the church broke into two that's why you have the Roman Catholic and the Anglo-Catholic (Anglican) church separately till today.

As for Jehovah's Witnesses the standard they set in one country is the same as all others that's why the whole world can see this group as the world's best evangelizers no matter the economic situation in any country JWs maintain their love, joy and peace throughout the world! Matthew 5:13-16

I know the sacred heart hospital and i've been there several times both as a patient and visitor and i can assure you that it's nothing compared to hospitals in European countries!

Meanwhile the religion that brought it are still partaking in the world's politics till today and that's what the other Religion is fighting hard to resist. Had it not being for the way Catholic Church was fighting and killing people back then forcing their religion on them that's what prompted the Arabs to start the same thing with the idea that they will conquer Christianity that's been dominating the world through Catholicism and her protestant allies.
If it's just the way Jesus commissioned Christianity that JWs are practicing it today even Muhammad can't see anything reasonable to say against Christianity.
But with the TRINITY, IMAGE WORSHIP and FORCEFUL CONVERTION Muhammad got what he could speak against!

For your information Jehovah's Witnesses are in Islamic states preaching and teaching peacefully because we know their rules and we play along so as not to provoke their anger and since we aren't interested in their politics they have no issues with us. Matthew 10:16
It's your people with your noise making in their streets that's provoking them {Matthew 12:19} as you're kind of forcing your beliefs on them threatening that your god will torment them inside fire for not joining you in your place of worship! Luke 9:51-56

We don't build hospitals or schools because that's not what Jesus commissioned Christianity for but in every land we go JWs fish out {Mark 1:17} obedient individuals making them lovers of peace! Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Matthew 28:18-20

That's the expected FRUIT Jesus planted not schools and hospitals sponsored by some political entities Sir! Matthew 7:16-18

What this man quoted is out of context!

God's word is not talking about material possessions here rather those sleeping or slumbering spiritually will lack the richly blessings of God that Jesus had.
If natural sleep is what God is talking about then it means Jesus became poor materially {Matthew 8:20} because he often sleep shey? Mark 4:38

NO! God's word is talking about spiritual sleep when you people are carried away with worldly philosophies and loose the wisdom of God!

GoodIsGod:
The guy is a Jehovah's witness. No Christian is a Christian in their sight except them alone.
They are 21st century Pharisees.

If you want to know the truth in all sacred matters go and meet Jehovah's Witnesses now otherwise you'll continue deceiving yourself and others around you.

People that came to Africa with guns and soldiers to force their religion on you are not Christian missionaries {Matthew 5:38-48; Luke 9:51-56} they're politicians disguising as believers, that's an indisputable fact! 2Corinthians 11:12-14

ANTIlSLAM:
Na your glory dem go stole , I didn't no say you be babalawo with your traditional medicines. How market anyways?
Missionaries are politicians, chaii but whosoever do you like this no go eat better food in Jesus name oo

How many hospitals did Paul and Barnabas built during their missionary journey?
Those people came and stole your glory but it's like you people need to emancipated yourselves from this slavery otherwise you will never see that you're still their slaves.
Sacred heart hospital but when Nigerians need medical checkup they're still traveling to Europe with your money and you're proud to say they build hospitals for you.
Which kind mumu be this nah?
If truthfully they brought those things in the name of Jesus Christ are you telling me now that Jesus is a failure?
Because if those things belongs to Jesus they should be functional just as the hospitals built in their own place o!
If those people were real missionaries whatever they establish in any place should be of the same standard as what they have elsewhere.
So shine your eyes after the British had made lots of slaves in west Africa Abéòkúta (my home town) became their settlement and most of them returned with white man's name like Cole, Craig, Crowder, Brown, Margrygor, McCauley, Taylor and so on then they gave only Abeokuta independent so as to place them above all the other tribes in Nigeria. For your information that's how Abéòkúta became the greatest in Nigerian politics till today. Go and ask anybody tell them a Nairalander in the name of Maximus told you.

You kids thinking you know the whitemen more than intellectuals. All what those people brought was to continue enslaving our people if you don't know get that into your skull today!

talk2hb1:
Seriously or are you joking

If you truly want to be intelligent you shouldn't allow your condition to becloud your thinking faculty.
We are humans with a lifespan of less than 100 year but we are talking about spirit beings whose life has no expiring date so you can't be thinking from the perspective of a mortal man and using such thinking to judge how spirits should reason. Isaiah 55:8-11

So to fully understand what you're asking you need to think from both sides, God and the angels are immortal beings and we are mortals you shouldn't limit your thinking to what affects the mortals otherwise you won't see any sense in this. 1Corinthians 2:14

God and angels don't grow old, get sick, or die therefore the way they reason must surely differ from the way we do. For instance you can't expect someone living in America to reason the same way with the one living in Nigeria if both of them hasn't been to each other's place before. The bad roads, epileptic power supply, poor facilities, scarcity of food and other needs of humans will blur the sense of a Nigerian completely unless he's been traveling to America how do you convince a Nigerian who has never been there before that electricity supply may be uninterrupted for decades? Or how do you convince a 40 years old American that electricity supply can be cut off when he has never experienced such all his life?
So please don't limit your thinking to what is affecting humans try to look into what affects the immortals too that's the only way you can grasp what is happening.

ANTIlSLAM:
So those white men (missionaries) are politicians according to your ignorant right and the first hospital (The Sacred Heart Hospital) they built is still there in Abeokuta Ogun State till today.
Are you saying they built that hospital to still continuing colonizing your village people till tomorrow abi? abeg park comot for road

You people are pagans claiming believers!

Neither Jesus nor his disciples build hospitals the ones the whitemen build are for colonization. Though you people don't know the difference between faith and credulity, you just feel like since whitemen brought an idea and it's working then it belongs to Jesus.
For your information they stole your glory with those hospitals, instead of our people to work hand in hand with what they brought they condemned our traditional medicines as if they can cure everything.
Well i've told you the bitter truth, schools and hospitals has nothing to do with Christianity Jesus preached God's Kingdom not social amenities Sir!

ANTIlSLAM:
Very sure

My guy social amenities were provided by the government who are ruling over the people so those white men that brought schools and hospitals never did so for God rather they're COLONIZING our people.

Christianity has just one purpose: campaign for God's Kingdom! Matthew 10:7

That's why those who came with schools and hospitals dominated our people and ruled over them with force using weapons to intimidate them. Jesus of Nazareth and his disciples never did that whoever doesn't want to be saved must not be forced {Luke 9:51-56} and Christians must not force their policies on anyone rather they're the meekest on planet earth.

So don't get it twisted those white men were POLITICIANS not CHRISTIANS!

talk2hb1:
Don't you think that actually makes him weak or wicked?
Because that doesn't sound logical to me, children getting drunk from the drink of the father

That's what makes Him the toughest as in the greatest!
Children were infected by their father so they doctor prescribed the only antidote!

delkuf:
So what make someone a born again Christian

Salvation is for all obedient mankind so from Abel till John the baptist who are obedient to God will be saved as in resurrect in Paradise including the thief Jesus promised. Luke 23:43

But being BORN AGAIN is another thing entirely that's why Jesus told his listeners that John the baptist was the greatest of all the men who had lived before the Christ but as for the first set subjects of God's Kingdom (BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS) the least of them is greater than John the baptist! Matthew 11:11

BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS are limited number chosen among Jesus' disciples {Revelations 14:1} they will be transformed into spirit beings {Luke 20:34-36} because they're going to heaven with Christ {John 14:1-3} never to return to this planet again. 1Thessalonians 4:16-17

They're the ones who will rule with him in heaven {Revelations 20:4} before anyone is resurrected this set will be resurrected FIRST because they're the first fruit of God's Kingdom! Revelations 20:6

Even Jesus himself has no say in the choosing of BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS {Matthew 20:20-23} because it's the same way God chose him {Matthew 3:16} that God will choose them {Act 2:2-4} Jesus referred to them as his brothers that we must acknowledge! Matthew 25:40

They're the only ones who has the right to eat the bread and drank the wine with Jesus {Luke 22:19} whoever is not one of them but eat or drank of the emblem will blame himself {1Corinthians 11:27-30} of course some first century Christians who died due to being ignorant will not be totally condemned because they don't know {1Corinthians 11:31-32} but after knowing that the emblem only belongs to few and not all faithful servants of God whoever go ahead to join in the eating will be condemned! Matthew 22:11-14

So the BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS are just like all other faithful servants of God but they were chosen by God Himself not that they decided to become BORN AGAIN!

talk2hb1:
A Man Went to Drink and Drank To Stupor, it was his son at that got intoxicated. Does this sound reasonable to you?
Adam and Eve ate the fruit only for their descendant to bear the consequences of their action
Why can't he just punish the two for their misdeed, instead of transferring the punishment on the children and later requesting for one of his holy son to wipe the sin of those who has nothing to the sin of some other people.

The underlined!
Because Adam has infected all his children with the venom of the fruit so we are doomed unless an antidote is provided Adam's descendants will continue to grow old, get sick and die.

That antidote is what another perfect human must provide to buy over Adam's descendants, out of all the inheritance his father transferred to him Jesus loves humans most {Proverbs 8:31} so he must pour out his perfect human blood to become the rightful father of those that will continue living forever! John 3:16

Only through Jesus' sacrificial death that any among Adam's descendants can regain what God had in mind: living forever as youth in Paradise! Psalms 37:9-11, 29

delkuf:
He quoted that verse to point out that it is with your mouth you confess Christ

I got the message but that doesn't make someone a BORN AGAIN Christian!

Sleekfingers:
It is called noise pollution.......those idiots should be dealt with, for polluting the air, with their useless preaching......
Naso some idiots selling Herbal medicines, DVD, barbing salon etc go dey play loud music .....bunch of unexposed fools.......

The truth is that Jesus of Nazareth has been misrepresented a lot by all these misinformed churchgoers.
Of course prophets in Israel do make noise in their neighbourhood reminding the people what their God commanded, and it's reasonable because throughout the nation all of them agreed that the God who sent Moses is their rightful ruler so whenever a prophet is heard shouting it's like a town crier announcing the orders from a King.
But all that ended as the last Israelites prophet in line with the old covenant (John the baptist) introduces the mediator of the New Covenant (Jesus Christ) John 1:29-34

Now Jesus of Nazareth commissioned his own preaching not by noise making in the streets {Matthew 12:19} his own disciples must go and meet people in their homes as neighbours, greet in the local custom, introduce themselves, ask for permission to speak with the householder before delivering the message Jesus sent them! Matthew 10:11-13

But may ask WHY all these protocol when it's God's word that the preacher has brought?

Well it's because all the nations of the earth has their traditions, customs and deities so it's wrong telling people that your own God will deal with them when they had no business with your God. So as preachers with the message of the Good News of God's Kingdom Christians must respect their neighbours and not pollute the air with noise.
Moreover Satan is the ruler of this world {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} so they're to be cautious as serpents and innocent as doves {Matthew 10:6} they have no moral right to shout in the public.
But Satan can't make any law restricting people from visiting their neighbours so Jesus commissioned his own campaign with that arrangement.
The Christians will knock on your door just as your neighbours do, they will greet you just as your neighbours do, they will introduce themselves just as your NEW neighbours do before telling you what brought them.
Of course no right thinking person will feel hurt seeing his neighbour paying him a visit unless a sadist and Jesus has equipped us to know how to gladden the heart of sadists with friendly smiles!

Mikee19:
But u can discern (at least u should be able to). You can see who actually used scripture correctly. In this world there are many voices. Test the spirits to see which is of God

You mix things up a lot and when true believers try to correct you the next thing is arguing blindly!

If it's easy to discern who is saying the truth Jesus won't say "by their FRUITS you will know them" {Matthew 7:16} all of us knows what a fruit means and we know that a tree must first be planted (the utterances of any religion) it must saturates in the soil (running through the heart of the listener) before germinating (developing positive thoughts) then it will start growing (actions taken to attend more meetings with fellow believers where the little plant will be watered with healthful teachings) until it grows into a tree (everyone around notice the changes) then begin bearing fruit (become a fully competent and completely equipped disciple who can also preach and teach effectively to make disciples)

So how do you think by ordinarily listening to numerous opinions that's contradictory the one listening can figure out which one is correct?

All of them will quote the scriptures just as Satan was quoting the scriptures when trying to mislead Jesus! Luke 4:1-13

Well you've been running around but let me tell you that you can't hide, only Jehovah's Witnesses have received the spirit of God that's why it's only that organization that's producing the expected fruit of the spirit.

Let others prove themselves not by blindly arguing over letters of the scriptures {2Corinthians 3:6} but through the evidence of the WORKS as the Holy Spirit touches their members throughout the earth to go out and meet their neighbours preaching zealously and industriously teaching the Good News about God's Kingdom! James 2:18-26

In the absence of that then the spirit in them is deceiving them because Jesus said:

"Every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:17-18

If their members aren't known globally as kingdom evangelizers like what the inhabitants of Antioch noticed {Act 11:26} then they are not WITNESSES of Christ! 1:8