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sagenaija:
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At the end of the day, your words betray you.
You rant about how you are the best of people and organization but what you spew out of your mouths shows something else.

I am not asking about the relationship between the humanity of Christ and the Father or any of the other issues you bring up to cloud the main issue. All I asked is to tell us what John 10:30 means when Jesus said, "I and the Father are One.”

It is easy to see that you are stuck when your translation doesn't change words for you and when you are confronted with a direct challenge to your dogma. You still end up on a merry-go-round because you can't reconcile the truth of that verse with your dogma. The next immediate fallback for you guys then becomes name-calling and attacks.

Your first attempt failed woefully because you cannot claim it means they are in agreement and still talk about a different opinion. You can't confuse clear-minded people with your convoluted use of words. That's why I said you should try again. Unfortunately, your second attempt truly exposed you. You simply don't want to accept what that verse is clearly saying. You then end up explaining other conjured-up verses you bring up rather than the one in question. You've only complicated things for yourself. But we know that you are stubborn so you'll still fight on.

Why not use the scriptures to correct my error if truly you know better?

I opened the scriptures to expatiate on what i quoted earlier but you want to condemn it all yet you're only arguing without using the scriptures to say exactly what you think about the verse!

Well you're a churchgoer so i don't expect anything tangible from you other than blind arguments.

If you know better answer the question because it's clear that Jesus agreed with whatever his father want whether it's OK with him or unpalatable!

anoda:
since them teach me attributes of God for primary sch, I Neva check to comfirm am oo.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm i love your sincerity!

God never claimed any of those Omni this and that which misinformed religionists attached to Him.
What He said about Himself is that whatever He purpose to do will work out with or without the support of anyone because He will see to it that what He delight in surely comes through. Isaiah 55:8-11

As for what other creatures choose to do He only watch closely in other to tell you the outcome so if you go to the right He knows what awaits you there and the same thing He can tell you about the left but as for the choice it's left to you!

And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous; i will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know. Genesis 18:20-21

Then he said: “Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me.” Genesis 22:12

"Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? Ezekiel 33:11

These are the utterances of the God of Israel!

Please do the one speaking show any sign of being omniscient?

anoda:
Keeping in mind that "God is Ominiscient".

The highlighted!

Do you know where it's WRITTEN in the Bible?

ANTIlSLAM:
So those questions you left unanswered after I answered all your questions are hurtful questions right? But you firstly used hurtful words, have you forgotten? I understand all your tricks, not today you've been doing such.

Trust me, I will keep on exposing your JW religion May peace locate you

Building hospitals and schools aren't what Jesus sent his disciples to go and do out there.
But if you want us to discuss something else then start another thread so we can both chat maturely since you think there are things you need to expose.
Let's not derail this thread with another topic, however building hospitals and schools aren't the assignment Jesus gave his disciples!

Well Jesus has called out his own disciples since 1914 {Revelations 18:4} they're now gathering themselves under one umbrella {Isaiah 2:2-4} what you are calling Christians today is known in the spirit realms as Babylon the Great (a spiritual harlot) Revelations 17:5

After Jesus has gathered millions of obedient people from all the earth in 1931 his father declared the name hidden away from false religionists all of whom will be destroyed soon, that hidden group name is "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Isaiah 65:15

Unlike Islam this organization have LOVE among themselves {John 13:34-35} they don't force their policies on neighbours {Luke 9:51-56} they don't participate in world's politics {John 17:14} so nothing can make them raise or support raising weapons against their fellowman {Matthew 26:52} they are the most peaceful group globally {John 14:27} but their policies are engraved in the hearts of all their members {Jeremiah 31:33} so they have the same line of thought globally! John 17:22

So Jesus' true disciples are separating themselves from Babylon the Great today {2Corinthians 6:17} just as he foretold! Matthew 13:30

May you have PEACE!

sagenaija:
Trying to do damage control? You need to try harder.
Is it really so difficult for you guys to simply exegete one verse?
If like you started off with "both are in agreement" (I'm not suggesting that that is the correct interpretation of that verse) then what is the point of "one needs to always bend to the opinion of the other"? If they are in agreement in the first place which other opinion is one bending to? Do you see why I say that you guys end up tying yourselves in knots? Being in agreement means having the same opinion. That does not call for one bending to "another" opinion. Attempt another answer. This time focus on the verse. What is it saying? What clear message can you see from it?

Funny Churchgoer!

@ Genesis 2:24 
"That is why a man will leave his father and his mother and he will stick to his wife, and they will become one flesh"
It simply means the two will agree on what to do yet one must bend to the opinion of the other for that to be possible.

@ John 10:30
"I and the Father are one”

But for you to know that they're not one without one having to bend to the other's opinion Jesus said:

“Father, if you want to, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place.” Luke 22:42

It's clear that the oneness between the two persons is not automated the son always give in to the opinion of his father! John 8:28

That is why Jesus also pray for the same thing to happen between his father, himself and all his disciples: for all to become ONE!

 “I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me. John 17:20-23

So humble yourself and learn instead of being pigheaded over what you don't understand Jesus is different from the person who sent him that's why he must always bend to the opinion of his father, and that's exactly what is expected of all his true disciples! John 5:19

Maturity is what you need my guy instead of seeking your type to exchange hurtful words!

ANTIlSLAM:
Your attention is needed here, you must finish what you started


1. what is the name of the Roman Emperor that initiated Catholic Church?

2. Who are the rebels that protested against Roman Catholic Church?


3. Did Jesus Christ taught you to visit hospital for medical care as you did by visiting Sacred Heart Hospital for your healing?

4. Did Jesus Christ taught you to build kingdom hall?

5. Did Jesus Christ taught you to condemned good gesture bestowed to your people in Abeokuta?

6. Did Jesus Christ taught you how to use the internet in proclaiming your occultist JW religion abi?


7. The Hospital they built for your betterment in Abeokuta, who are the Nurses and Doctors that attended to you the last time you went there for your healing, [color=#990000]are they the whitemen from Europe or Nigerian doctor(s) and Nurses?

Following!

sagenaija:
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Again, you avoid the issue that is being pointed out to you and run off at a tangent to some unrelated things.
In John 10:30 Jesus said, "I and the Father are One.”
Focus on this statement of Jesus. What does it tell you? In your own words simply tell us what you think that statement means. Is that too hard for you to do? Or do you prefer to sound complicated and sophisticated to make yourself feel good about the knowledge you think you have?
For once avoid all the attacks and tell us what that statement is saying.

Both are in agreement even though one need to always bend to the opinion of the other! Luke 22:42

advocatejare:
I’m not bitter, I’m only holding you responsible for your words:

You made this false statement: “Once it leaves the body it must not return”
Please reference it from the scriptures
You claim that you are commanded to abstain from all blood. So I ask again:

So I ask again:
Don’t you drink Christ’s blood during holy communion?

If you can’t answer those questions, then don’t ever mention me again as you have proven to be someone who is not honorable enough to say the truth. Until you do the needful and provide your reference for the lies you told, I won’t respond to you again. May you find the real Christ and the real truth. Shalom

Sorry i didn't remember quoting you first on this thread, it was the other guys i quoted and this is your first countercomments to engage me.

advocatejare:
Irrational submission as usual. Did Jesus use internet that you are using today? Did Jesus print watchtower pamphlets that you are using today?

The whitemen built hospitals for you, they taught your people basic science and made you know that conditions like Sickle cell disease is a blood disorder and not due to the child being an ogbanje, but the ungrateful you is now demonizing them.

The cult that you call JW group has sent many to their early graves because your founder misinterpreted not eating the blood of animals like the occults to mean that Jw should not accept blood transfusion hence you have sent many to their early graves, their blood is on your head for misleading them!

So if you're no longer interested in the topic it's OK but know today that building schools and hospitals is not the assignment Jesus gave his disciples Sir.

May you have PEACE!

advocatejare:

You still haven’t answered these questions:
You made this false statement: “Once it leaves the body it must not return”
Please reference it from the scriptures if you are not a liar like the people of your deceptive Jw cult
You claim that you are commanded to abstain from all blood. So I ask again:
Don’t you drink Christ’s blood during holy communion?

You don't need to be this bitter my friend!

If you're interested in what we believe then start a thread and let's discuss on that, you've made me deviate from the point of discussion and that's because i feel like chatting with you.

So let's stay on the topic of discussion for the moment. Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

btoks:
So where is this early church that didn't rebel and was submissive to the apostles?

Jesus use a parable to foretell what will happen to his group of obedient mankind after his ascension. Satan will raise his agents in the midst of Jesus' disciples after all his first century Apostles have fallen asleep in death {Matthew 13:25} but because angels were not allowed to intervene {Matthew 13:27-29} Satan's agents (Antichrists) will flourish in the midst of Jesus' faithful disciples like weed among fine seed. 1John 2:18
If you're a farmer you will know that if both are allowed to grow together the weeds will overpower the fine seeds and soon the fine seeds will become scanty in the farm unable to yield produce. That's what happened to Jesus' first century followers after the death of the Apostles.

btoks:
What is the legacy that our Lord Jesus laid down that totally differs from what the church teaches?

Christians are to gather faithful and obedient people throughout the world {Matthew 28:19-20 compare to Act 1:8} in other to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Zephaniah 3:9} they will achieve this by speaking to their neighbours about God's will {Malachi 3:16} did you notice what Malachi said angels of God will be doing when this is happening? YES! those involved in this activity will have their names written in the book of life {Revelations 20:15} that's what Jesus asked his disciples to do from house to house and door to door searching among their neighbours who will show interest in God's will! Matthew 10:11-13

btoks:
Show me what that early church looks like and how it differs from what the Catholic church teaches.

The early Church was devastated by Satan after killing all the Apostles {Revelations 12:17} so after then true Christianity disappeared completely only to reappear when America declared FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSION, WORSHIP and ASSOCIATION.
Jesus returned in the year 1914 and just as he foresaw the legacy he laid down was nowhere to be found {Luke 18:8} so he began searching for people who are ready to amend their erroneous teachings only to find one group of individuals in America known back then as the International Bible Students Association.
So Jesus as a mighty spirit King began directing them and they started making changes in their beliefs but all other religions were mocking them, this group never listened to what those critics were saying then the same American government that declared FREEDOM of SPEECH, EXPRESSION, WORSHIP and ASSOCIATION arrested the leaders of this group and imprisoned them only to release them three years later after realizing that they are fighting against their own declaration!

Immediately this group was released they started something strange: preaching with zeal from house to house just as Jesus laid down the legacy back in the first century. And 12 years later God began calling them by another name because He doesn't want them to be mixed with misinformed Churchgoers claiming denominations in Christendom {Isaiah 65:15} today the one and only true Christian group is globally known as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

That's why you can't find any other group that members are actively preaching zealously and industriously teaching throughout the earth like this people! Act 1:8

Where most people got things complicated is by judging this group based on individual traits instead of looking at what Jesus is performing through a global family of imperfect humans who have resolved to use God's word as their only authority, settled all their racial disparities among themselves, diverted their resources into the production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons, and vowed never to raise weapons against their neighbours! Isaiah 2-4

In fact the whole world can see that there is LOVE among this group no matter where they may come from! John 13:34-35; 15:12-13

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

advocatejare:
You made this false statement: “Once it leaves the body it must not return”
Please reference it from the scriptures

This is your usual escapism format, anytime you faced with what will expose your hypocrisy, you make this statement.

So I ask again:
Don’t you drink Christ’s blood during holy communion?

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, there's no need beating about the bush with different questions regarding what i believe the question we're discussing here is:

"What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria?"

So let's hear what Muhammad taught them in line with the question, but when someone now raise the issue of hospitals and schools i will continue to say that's not the task Jesus gave his disciples those building hospitals and schools aren't doing it for Jesus rather they're seeking something else which is political ambitions simple.

But if you wish to change the topic of discussion then start a thread and mention me, i'll be there to TEACH you what Jesus commanded his disciples to go out there and do, and not only that i will also expatiate on the benefits of Jesus' order and why no other group can achieve it if they are not CHRISTIANS! Matthew 7:16-18

May you have PEACE!

advocatejare:
Adding to the words of God as usual. Please reference this false claim of yours!

The scriptures says "ABSTAIN FROM BLOOD" the application you give it may differ from mine but surely blood is blood, whether it comes out of my body or from an animal or from a fellow human i must not take it into my body whether through the mouth or injection!

So it’s time to cherry pick which blood and leave out fat?
He was making reference to the law of God in the Old Testament that you should avoid dead animals blood

NO! Because the Apostles omitted FAT as earlier mentioned in the old covenant so they aren't referencing the old law rather they're talking about what God's Holy Spirit made a compulsion!

Don’t you drink Christ’s blood during holy communion?

Why not start a new thread so you can question everything we teach?
I'm maintaining my position that building schools and hospitals in services to humanity doesn't qualify those doing so to be Christians Jesus gave a specific assignment to his earthly disciples and it's only by doing what he assigned as duty that makes those doing it CHRISTIANS Sir!

CHRISTIANITY is the movement that gathers all faithful and obedient people throughout the world under one umbrella and their major goal is:
To agree on whatever God's word says about right and wrong, to settle their racial disparities, to divert their resources into the production of food and information materials, to erase the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to engage in military services {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} with that they will form a global family of peace loving people seeing themselves as one another's brother's keeper {Zephaniah 3:9} as they're to have the same mindset like their King (Jesus Christ) and their God (Jehovah) so that both their God, His anointed King and all the subjects may have one mindset in their Kingdom which is Paradise! John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10

So everything Jesus taught was centered on this goal which he referred to as the Good News of God's Kingdom.
May you have PEACE!

advocatejare:
So being an animal, God said you should abstain from your own blood too?
So your own life is in your blood, why then do you refuse your own blood to be transfused into you?

Once it leaves the body it must not return because it has left it's habitation, only God knows what may affect it once it has been separated from the body (it's home) that's why we strictly adhere to that rule!

advocatejare:
Quote out all the Old Testament verses you use to back up why you don’t take blood then I will expose your hypocrisy!
Let me help you with one:
Deuteronomy 12:22-25
22 Eat them as you would gazelle or deer. Both the ceremonially unclean and the clean may eat. 23 But be sure you do not eat the blood, because the blood is the life, and you must not eat the life with the meat. 24 You must not eat the blood; pour it out on the ground like water.25 Do not eat it, so that it may go well with you and your children after you, because you will be doing what is right in the eyes of the Lord.
Leviticus 3:17
This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live: You must not eat any fat or any blood.’”
The ordinance was to avoid eating fat or blood. You chose to obey one law and to reject the other.
You refuse blood transfusion but eat animal fat yet you claim you’re obeying God’s law.

Note that i quoted what the Apostles said about our health and fat wasn't mentioned.
So the fat has it's effect but not as serious as the blood that's why they said:

For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: Act 15:28

This is unlike the laws God gave the Israelites to prevent dangers in food but what God's Holy Spirit made a compulsion just as Jesus Christ has told the Apostles that God's Holy Spirit will teach them other NECESSARY things time never permitted him to TEACH them! John 16:12-13

So we aren't abstaining from blood based on the old covenant but on the New Covenant as DIRECTED by God's Holy Spirit!

btoks:
It'll be good to know which church existed with its bishops and all the percecution prior to Constantine's time. You do know Roman Catholic is a modern coinage,right? The church's offical name is Catholic church.

The legacy Jesus laid down totally differs from what the Catholics are doing {Matthew 15:7-8} rebellious ones in the first century who never wanted to be submissive to the apostles in the congregation preferred political prowess to mildness. 3John 1:9
The apostles only tell their fellow believers that rebellion against orderliness in the congregation will lead to eternal damnation {Hebrews 13:7, 17} but those ravenous wolves don't accept such ideas they feel it's too weak so they connived with political pagan Roman priests to establish their own religion in order to lord it over people in general {Luke 22:25} that's how they welcome all the pagan traditions of Rome.
So the name "Roman Catholic Church" is really fitting as the religion has nothing in common with what Jesus taught rather it's based on the philosophical ideas of people back then and Roman pagan traditions!

advocatejare:
Distortions again? No where in what you wrote reads from the blood of “any” creature.

Show us where such was written.
The law was given in the Old Testament, show us what Yahweh said

Please quote what God said in any version of your choice and let's see how science itself will expose your ignorance!

You're banking on "animal blood" forgetting that humans are animals according to SCIENCE, the only difference between humans and animals is the ability to reason apart from that we all come from the same place {Ecclesiastes 3:19-20} so when God's word say abstain from BLOOD He explained by stating the reason:

The formation code of each creature is written in it's BLOOD! Leviticus 17:14; Deuteronomy 12:23

Please feel free to explain what you think about God's law regarding the sacredness of BLOOD!

KnownUnknown:
That’s not the way you ignore. I despise you worthless cretins so much. Starting a thread about atrocities in Islam but excuses the same atrocities of his Jewish lords as “mission of god”. I hope someone “mission from god” you.
I’m expressing myself well by insulting you clearly. No ambiguity here you demented slave of Jewish nonsense. No self respect having bastard viewing the world as a ridiculous dichotomy of “Jews and gentiles”.
It’s not surprising that Africa has been so throughly conquered because some of you obviously have slavish genes.
Now, ignore me properly you dumb son of a bitch.

In as much as i don't agree with both of you it doesn't mean we should become bitter towards one another. An adage in my language says "tí igi ba ré lu igi tí òkè la máa kọ́kọ́ gbé" meaning "when problems are like a hill the topmost is considered first"

So unlike the adage says you want to dig the root of this matter but first you need to make the environment friendly otherwise you won't achieve anything!

Surely Israelites in ancient times do go to war and engage in genocidal acts but then we need to ask ourselves few rhetorical questions:
What was the belief of people back then?
How do people back then handle disputes?
What approach do people back then have towards the deities?
Was there a world order back then?

These questions will help us to know why they did those things that doesn't sound good to us now!

After Noah's generation a mighty hunter in the name of "Nimrod" wanted to rule the world {Genesis 10:8-9} anyone who chooses to rule over his fellowman is an OPPOSITION to God because only God has the right to set standard regarding right and wrong which supposed to be binding on all humans it's not man's job to set standards even for himself talkless setting standards for others! Jeremiah 10:23

Nimrod decided to cage the people in one geographical location in order to be their King but his ambition was thwarted when God suddenly changed the language of Nimrod's prospective subjects so they scattered on the surface of the earth! Genesis 11:1-9

But people like Nimrod still have that ambition so when anyone builds a destructive weapon the next thing they think of is not hunting for animals rather it's to intimidate others who don't know how to use such weapons and the next thing is making himself a ruler over the others.

Then demons are everywhere supporting such ambitions that's how people back then began having Gods as each person wants to worship the God that's supporting that mighty man who has made himself their King.

So by the time God decided to prove His own mightiness He first allowed the Israelites to go down to Egypt (the world's most powerful nation of that time) and became slaves for 400 years before going there with two feeble octogenarians to release His people without a military force nor destructive weapons as all other nations do fight for themselves.
JEHOVAH challenged all the demons that Egyptians believed (trusted) back then by using plagues significantly exposing the inability of each Egyptian god before destroying their best army in the red sea!

All these a God who claims to be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob did without using weapons or humans to do His own fighting!

Surely all the nations of the earth supposed to know that there is no other God beside this one {Exodus 20:3} but most inhabitants of the earth failed to reason intelligently back then?
Instead of looking for means of becoming the worshipers of this God they were planning to stop His people from setting up worship in the designated location He chose and some are even thinking of how to attack them.
That is why JEHOVAH came to their level after all they often fear destructive soldiers perhaps they will fear the Israelites if the Israelites are fighting and killing them face to face as all the people back then use to show their strength.

So you are right saying Israelites also engage in genocidal acts supported by their God in ancient times but then you need to know why this same God now condemns such act when billions across the globe are now calling upon His holy name only to end up killing one another over what Nimrod started back then: POLITICS! Revelations 6:3-4

May you have PEACE!

advocatejare:
Abstain from blood of what?
Show us your reference from the scriptures!

From the blood of any creature because the formation of each creature is like a code that's registered in the blood of that creature God said only Him knows what the blood means in the life of each creature {Leviticus 17:11} that's why when the Christian congregation was established the Apostles didn't bring back many of the Mosaic laws as a compulsion on believers yet the law to abstain from BLOOD was carried over into Christianity as a must! Act 15:29

For your information scientists who thought they had more knowledge about human body are still baffled how different kinds of deadly diseases are coming up on daily basis, who will tell them that God said once blood comes out of the body of any creature it must be poured out it's for our wellbeing:

For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you! Act 15:28-29

May you have PEACE!

advocatejare:
It’s either you have a problem with comprehending simple English or twisting plain words like your cult do has gotten a hold of you

I told you Satan's agents rule the world and we must allow them have their way {John 14:30; 2Corunthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} if not he won't confidently tell Jesus that all the kingdoms of this world has been given to him! Luke 4:5-7

But you're trying to argue saying Jesus has authority in his territory, that's why i'm showing you instances where Jesus had to dodge from those you're saying he intervened in their matter when they later gave him dirty slaps and handed him over to be killed.

Of course it’s your faith with no basis in the scriptures.
Your faith that you built on the foundation of falsehoods and distortions of clear Biblical injunction of not drinking blood of dead animals like the occultic people do to deliberately misinterpret it as not receiving blood transfusion of even your own blood!

Thereby constantly killing your members who follow your false doctrines

Abstain from BLOOD!
It's clearly written in the Bible but since you're desperate to save your life {Matthew 6:27} you want to ignore, we aren't disturbing you but then you're the one complaining when you have no faith!

ANTIlSLAM:
JW when are you going to answer my questions or you can't pick where I ask you questions from the sentence below?

I asked you several questions but you won't answer just one but you're here listing all what comes to your mind and expecting me to take you seriously, can't you see how clownish you sound?

Answer these three questions:

Are you a Catholic?

If you're a Catholic, did God's word support use of images, rosaries to repeat phrases and praying in the name of dead people?

If you're not a Catholic then what makes you different from the religion that you're claiming good things in Jesus name if truly you love their good spirit?

Answer my questions and let's continue chatting there's no need for insults!

advocatejare:
Stop asking senseless question
Jesus intervened in the selling and buying going on in the temple, he had the culprits dealt with
Jesus intervened in the marriage where he turned water to wine
Jesus intervened when Peter didn’t catch any fish
They didn’t arrest Jesus for any of these or killed him because of these.
You’re always twisting the scriptures, I’m not surprised, that’s what your cult is known for.
Jesus entered Jerusalem like a king on a donkey with many people singing his praises, he was celebrated like a king and that was why Pilate asked if he was a king, stop lying to us.
Jesus’ mission was to come and die for the sins of humanity, so no matter what he did or didn’t do, he would still have been killed

OK was their king but yet they were pursuing him and he was running away from them shey? John 8:59; 10:31

advocatejare:
You’re very ignorant. Go and check for the causes of excessive bleeding after childbirth, and see if using a blood booster can prevent any of the causes. Even if one has 10L of blood in her body, she can lose all within 10 minutes if she just delivered and the only thing that can replace blood at that point is blood and not the yeye blood booster you are talking about because that one will take time to form new blood in the body, that’s how you’re killing your members cos of twisted doctrines

You've forgotten easily that we are confirmed herbalists for sure, ọmọ go and sit down jọ̀ọ́ we are up to the task in treating ourselves unless cases that's unpredictable.
That's why we go about with our card that says: "NO BLOOD"

That's our faith and we are battle prepared to die for if the worst comes after all whether you like or not you will still die anyway so it's better we die for our faith! Matthew 10:28

Regret in engaging misinformed Churchgoer.
Hilarious indeed!

ANTIlSLAM:
The mistake of your life that I am sure you'll be regretting now is that for engaging me at first instance

Had it been you know that I'll exposed your ignorant, you will never in your life engage me

Will you called on your elders in JW to help you out in answering all these below questions

Pointless ranting as usual!

ANTIlSLAM:
I have told you several times to stop lying for your elders in JW. Let me expose you as usual. A Roman Emperor didn't initiated Catholic Church, they are bearing Roman Catholic Church doesn't mean that it was a Roman Emperor that initiated the Church, YOU MUST STOP LYING. If I should ask you, what is the name of that Roman Emperor? will you tell me? NO


Roman Catholic Church is not the first Church, stop lying as well. Listening to what your elders in JW are brainwashing you with inside your Kingdom Hall will only cause you greatest havoc beyond irreparable. They are not claiming to be the first church okay. By the way, who are the rebels that protested against Roman Catholic Church?

All your ignorant and lies will only cause you calamities upon calamities





So building hospitals and schools for the betterment of your people in Abeokuta is not what Jesus Christ taught you abi? So your own Jesus in JW never taught you to be kind and loving to your neighbours even your enemies right?

Did Jesus Christ taught you to carry one useless umbrella with watchtower in your hands by disturbing the peace of the people in there various houses?

Did Jesus Christ taught you to visit hospital for medical care as you did by visiting Sacred Heart Hospital for your healing?

Did Jesus Christ taught you to build kingdom hall where you'll be brainwashed?

Did Jesus Christ taught you to condemned good gesture bestowed to your people in Abeokuta?

Did Jesus Christ taught you how to use the internet in proclaiming your occultist JW religion abi?

If answer to all these questions is NO, whose footsteps are you following then in your occultist JW religion? You never answer this question




The Hospital they built for your betterment in Abeokuta, who are the Nurses and Doctors that attended to you the last time you went there for your healing, are they the whitemen from Europe or Nigerian doctor(s) and Nurses? You never answer this question since last week

Emusan:
Quote my question and answer it.

For a record

Suit yourself!

KnownUnknown:
Worthless ignorant hypocrites. Quick to criticize others while being adherents of the most monstrous entities ever created.

What about your warlord Yahweh? If we are to believe the nonsensical stories you perpetual slaves venerate, didn’t Allah/Mohammed learn their savagery from Yahweh/Moses?
Isn’t it your god below dividing spoils like Boko Haram? The “battle” means genocide.

25 The Lord said to Moses,
26 “You and Eleazar the priest and the family heads(AM) of the community are to count all the people(AN) and animals that were captured.(AO) 27 Divide(AP) the spoils equally between the soldiers who took part in the battle and the rest of the community.
28 From the soldiers who fought in the battle, set apart as tribute for the Lord(AQ) one out of every five hundred, whether people, cattle, donkeys or sheep.
29 Take this tribute from their half share and give it to Eleazar the priest as the Lord’s part.
30 From the Israelites’ half, select one out of every fifty, whether people, cattle, donkeys, sheep or other animals. Give them to the Levites, who are responsible for the care of the Lord’s tabernacle.(AR)”
31 So Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the Lord commanded Moses.

If you're only interested in arguing blindly you can't see better than religionist killing people here and there.
But it's like you just love the headache of having to call them names when you don't know how to convey your message!

Emusan:
Does Arch mean CHIEF or not?

Does princes mean ANGELS or not?

Until you answer these questions

But at least I've help you with the above.



No one argue if Michael isn't an archangel but it's you who refused to acknowledge that Michael isn't ONE OF THE CHIEF(ARCH) PRINCES (ANGELS)



Does your NWT use the same WORD throughout their translation?

But it's very simple only if you can answer these simple questions

Does ARCH mean CHIEF or not?
Does Princes mean ANGELS or not?

I've been asking you more than three times now, why are you avoiding these questions?

because you know your ignorance will be exposed.



Cry me a river!

Who is talking about Trinity here?

So far, you're the one going back and forth on simple question.

The answer to your questions is NO!

Emusan:
Now it's talking about fact and frustration

No wonder you keep boycotting my question.

Does the word ARCH mean CHIEF?
Does the word PRINCES mean ANGELS?



Micheal is called ONE OF THE ARCHANGELS in Daniel 10:13, true of false?

You can ask your brother to help you with the screenshot of that



My own understanding or what the scripture says

You want to change the narrative, I know your style



The works of my faith are all abound around you unless you are too blind to see them.

Quote the highlighted from your copy of the KJV. This is what mine says:

"But the Prince of the Kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days, but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, and i remained there with the kings of Persia" Daniel 10:13 KJV

Archangel no dey there o!

Now the same KJV say:

"Yet Michael the Archangel when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said the Lord rebuke thee" Jude 1:9 KJV

How can the same translator use ARCHANGEL in one verse then change the text to CHIEF PRINCES in another verse?

Ọmọ if you're worried about your TRINITY it's dead long ago that's why you can only see the unique teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses today standing tall above all others! Matthew 5:14-16

advocatejare:
And they will continue to rule your life and determine what happens to you.
Jesus intervened in the selling and buying going on in the temple, he had the culprits dealt with
Jesus intervened in the marriage where he turned water to wine
Jesus intervened when Peter didn’t catch any fish

OLÓDO!
Jesus intervened but was arrested charged arraigned judged sentenced and executed buy the rulers who decided to delete him because he called himself the son of God, shey?
Pontius Pilate asked him "are you a King?" Which means "do you want to challenge their authority?" Jesus surrendered saying "my kingdom is "NO PART OF THIS WORLD" John 18:33-36
So Churchgoer our Kingdom is not here {Matthew 6:10} that's why Jesus commanded us to let them have their way! Matthew 5:38-42;

advocatejare:
That was why people were dying during childbirth before the era of blood transfusion, go and find out, but rather than to reduce death from blood loss among your members, you are adding to it because of your false doctrines and distorted Bible verses.

Olódo!
Go and find out how many JWs often die during childbirth. We have our own way of blood booster before labour it's accidents that puts our people in that tight corner and we already have professionals in different hospitals that perfectly understand our beliefs so they have all the things needed to boost blood without transfusion.
So speak for yourself JWs are OK with our faith but then building hospitals and schools is not what Jesus commanded his disciples to go and do out there Sir!