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OLAADEGBU:
My questions are thrown at my fellow believers in Christ but I trust you to come in uninvited like your father the devil who gate-crashed the meeting God was having with His servants.



I'm only obliged to respond to objections referred to me especially when they address the topic at hand not the ranting of those who's objective is to cause confusion with their poisoned reasonings.



My brethren know themselves and I know them but they are definitely not those who's loyalty is to some organisation who go about teaching doctrines of demons. My brethren are those who believe in the Triune God and have received the true Jesus as their Lord and personal Saviour. They also take the Holy Bible which is God breathed as the final authority in all matters unlike you who take the Watchtower magazine/literature as the final say.



My G.S. teaches and preaches the full gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to all and sundry. If you don't believe the Holy Bible why should I expect you to believe what my G.S. teaches?



There you go again deflecting and changing the subject at hand as your organisation usually does. The grasshopper method.

cornelboy:
John 1:3 NLT
[3]God created everything through him,
    and nothing was created except through him.

Jesus created every creation for God.

Colossians 1:15 NLT
[15]Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.
    He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,

Questions you should ponder on;
1. Did Jehovah GOD have beginning? Did God start existing or he is all there all along from eternity to eternity?
2. Did Jesus his son have a beginning, didn't he start to exist at a point in time?
3. Are they co-eternal like Trinitarians say?

DeepSight:
Oh please.
And where will forty million cowards run to?
Now lets imagine it's Nigeria that's attacked, where would 200 million cowards run to ? ?
Now lets imagine it's India or China that's attacked, where would one billion cowards run to? ? ?
You are a joker.

RussellRutherfo:
The Kingdom of Heaven and Truth is not given to the Intellectuals of this World who seek to twist the truth and defend false prophecies.


What is intellectual about making an attempt to try and defend clear lies by your organization about 1914 when we have the records?!!

What abacadabra explanation will you put up that will erase the evidences?
Are you such without a Bible conscience that you will proudly defend lies instead of humbling yourself before Christ.

I can continue on and on but let me stop here because i don't like chatting with people who don't want to hear the truth.

OkCornel:
Please can you elaborate further
Thanks

RussellRutherfo:
You don't like chatting with people who don't want to hear your organizational approved propaganda lies taught as truth to you or You can't defend your organization's lies?!!
Which one of them?!!


There is no addition or improvement to the Convenant of Jesus after HE made this declaration on the Cross:

John 19:30 KJV — When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Hebrews 9:12 KJV — Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.


Hebrews 9:26 KJV — For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Christ who at different times suffered since the foundation of the World for us after HE created it all has made final show and adjustment of the Sacrifice. There is no therefore any improvement or adjustment after Christ. A careful reading shows that Abraham and the rest of them who never gave false prophecies like your organization were insignificant compared to the Convenant of Christ.


Only Cults and false religions like Islam, Jehovah witnesses, Grail message, Eckankar, etcetera teach that there are improvements or additional testaments all in a bid to justify the many falsehoods as evidenced by their records that prove them as false religions.

DeepSight:
I don't think Charles Taze Russell was a black man.

DeepSight:
Will you stop this foul mendacity at once. You know very well I have spoken about self defense and not involvement in any aggressive war of invasion or expansion for anyone's vanity.

Speaklove:
Then I ask
" are Jehovah's witnesses all under this government of the evil one (Satan )or not
If as you claimed that God's can't rule here

By whom were Jehovah's witnesses are ruled ?

DeepSight:
That is not the definition of atheism.

RussellRutherfo:
God bless you for being able to discern the truth. You even tried before trying to defend the 1914 date. Most Jehovah witnesses today are even lost as regards the topic and will try to evade the topic with more lies.

If only active Jehovah witnesses will just read their own organization's books both past and present and compare them. They will be shocked at how unrecognizable even Russell and Rutherford will find the present day Jehovah witness if they were to time travel to today.

DeepSight:
I am not an atheist.
My position is that God, which I define as the source of all existence, is incomprehensible and unknowable. I believe IT exists, but as I also believe IT is too transcendental to be comprehended or known, I cannot trust it either. I cannot trust an element I cannot understand or know.

DeepSight:
So a belligerent invader attacks your country and your solution is to leave the country for them right? Where will you carry 40 million people to, in the case of Ukraine. You wish to render your people stateless, homeless refugees on account of your appalling cowardice?

Speaklove:
What does that scripture says ?
Quote it out please

AgirlsNightmAre:
Did I use any curse word in my comment?

Ken4Christ:
What is your contribution to the advancement of God's kingdom? And who is your pastor? Are you even born again? Answer these questions first before I can continue to discuss with you.

AgirlsNightmAre:
Did I use any curse word in my comment?

AgirlsNightmAre:
Maximus stop this nonsense, stop taking scripture out of context
There's nothing like GB in the scriptures

AgirlsNightmAre:
Jehovah never gave the then Bible students any name.
Isa 65:15 potrays a court session in which Jehovah proclaims the Israelites as his witnesses.
The early Bible students alongside the advents did not believe in 'inherent' immortality of the soul.
The name JW was given by Rutherford in 1931 in a convention at cedar point.
I will like to conclude with one of Russell's greatest writings: ".......We call ourselves simply CHRISTIANS and we
raise no fence to separate from us any who believe in the foundation stone
of our building mentioned by Paul: “That Christ died for our sins according
to the Scriptures”; and those for whom this is not broad enough have no right
to the name Christian.

AgirlsNightmAre:
The earlier you discover that 1914 fraud the better for you
You can't prove something but youre promoting it and saying it with conviction
I don't blame you cus you've never studied history & archaeology; neither doing a contextual analysis of scripture

DeepSight:
Such will not only be cowardly and irresponsible but also evil to the extent that it encourages tyranny and aggression.
It is also a big betrayal of your descendants.
All this is political analysis which has nothing to do with the subject - pacifism.

AgirlsNightmAre:
Before 1914
We had William Miller, Albert Barnes, Henry Grew, George Storrs, George Stetson etc.
We had numerous people going about doing some form of pastoral work majority being the Adventist
Even John Wycliffe had disciples known as "Lollards"who shared the gospel message and read the Bible in English to the common people.
Common man!

AgirlsNightmAre:
Mr.man how did Christ return in 1914
Where is it indicated in the scriptures that Christ parousia was in 1914?

DeepSight:
You deliberately mentioned Putin attacking just for vain glory, why did you go silent on Ukraine defending, is that for vain glory too? Or would you recommend that Ukraine, following JW teaching, should simply lay down all arms and permit Russia to have their violent way?

AntiChristian:
Okay, Since Moses can sire children with women can Jehovah do same in an larger version?
Since Jesus can die on a small level can Jehovah too die on a larger level?
Since Satan can deceive can Jehovah too do same on a bigger level?
Allah is far from being ascribed with demeaning words like your Jehovah!

DeepSight:
You deliberately ignore the fact that I specifically mentioned defensive action: defending your country and people when attacked by an aggressor. Abi there is something wrong with that? Am I also to assume that is assassins and armed robbers attack your family, under JW doctrine, it is wrong to defend them?

And when others defend the space with their lives, you will come afterwards and happily use the peace to carry on disturbing people's front doors with your gibberish right?
Kwantinu.

AntiChristian:
Allah is not comparable to anyone. Why compare your Jehovah to an Engineer? Seems you are postulating that Jehovah is an upgraded Moses/Satan/Jesus aka Angel Mike/Everyone.

Jehovah is not an upgraded version of those persons. Neither are those people a degraded version of Him. Those persons are His creation.

sonmvayina:
This is still waiting to be fulfilled

DeepSight:
This is benumbingly shallow and escapist, aside from the fact that it doesnt address the question of enjoying the peace secured with the blood of brave compatriots.

Workch:
There's no proof that Moses existed ever.
It's one of the silly tales in the Bible

DeepSight:
Not using it is not the same thing as undoing your use of it.
This is an idealistic notion that would work in an ideal world, and certainly not in a world where there is the imperative of self-defense.
And what is hypocritical about the JW position on war is that sometimes when your country and people are attacked, you must defend your country: JWs will refuse to take part in such defensive action but will enjoy the fruits of peace when the country is successfully defended. That is the worst kind of cowardice and hypocrisy combined.

DeepSight:
Authority to do, yes, but to undo, I know know for that one oh.

fredwill1357:
The president has given you the approval to use it anytime you deem fit, he doesn't care if you use it or not. Will you use it?

Workch:
The idea of a God that handed down instructions to me in private, with nobody around, is one magnificent fraud. The only reason it works is because of social pressure and a fear of not knowing.
If not so, why has the people who claim to see him, hear and fell him never ever have credible evidence to test for these bogus claims?