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Globallog598:Adam and Eve gave birth to boys as well as girls {Genesis 5:4} so those boys took their own sisters as wives. What most Bible readers never noticed about the inspired writers is that they don't mention the names of females except if such a female does something noteworthy. An example is the children Mary born to Joseph, the gospel writers only mentioned the names of boys! Matthew 13:55; Mark 6:3 Good morning, thanks for considering our book (Bible) and may you have PEACE! ![]() |
Maynman:All because i extended a hand just to help you out of these frustration in you. Well you tried it once but i ignored you because you were biased in the attempt. Meanwhile enjoy your day! ![]() |
Maynman:It's OK since you're not ready for a tactful conversation on the matter! ![]()
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Maynman:I noticed that the few discussions i had with you has been yielding some result in the way you think now because you typed this about me: Maynman:That's why i decided to discuss with you further on the modern day translation of the Bible. But if you won't start the thread it's OK at least i know now that you can witness to people around you that Jehovah's Witnesses knows the Bible than all other religionists. The Irony i want to clear here is that the KJV (King James Version) is what 80% of Churchgoers use in their places of worship but we Jehovah's Witnesses are using the New World Translation (NWT) Meanwhile you can keep what you think you KNOW while i also keep what i BELIEVE. May you have PEACE! ![]() |
Maynman:Good morning MindHacker, will you like it if we both discuss on the impact of William Tyndale on the modern day translation of the Bible? I'll be glad to hear from you and also share what i KNOW with you too. Please start a thread on this and let's see what we can both gain in such healthful discussion! ![]() |
I am Maximus, one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Would you like me to participate in the ongoing discussion? ![]() |
Jesus is what both of them preached! In Paul's letter he's emphasizing on the importance of faith, for instance when there's a call for salat thousands of people do hear it but only those who have FAITH in it will respond to the call. But when people hear the noise of two women fighting in the next house it's rare to see someone who will not leave whatever he/she is doing to watch such a fight just to be entertained. So according to Paul that FAITH which makes you respond to the call for sacred service is the most important thing because without such FAITH you can't please God. Hebrews 11:6 compare to Matthew 6:30 James in his own letter crowns it all by saying "when you have FAITH it's commendable but don't forget that Satan and demons also acknowledged the existence of God" {James 2:19} so what makes you better than Satan and demons? (for they also acknowledged God) Well it's the outcome of your FAITH, this is the end result of what you were moved to do in God's name. If it doesn't yield any positive results in the society so that others around you also enjoy the benefits then such FAITH is useless or DEAD! James 2:26 compare to Matthew 15:4-6 So both of them expatiated on Jesus' teachings. Thanks for considering our book (Bible) ![]() |
Ken4Christ:Of course anyone who never came to Jesus or whose case is not brought to him cannot be healed. In the case of an army officer the sick servant was at home while the officer asked Jesus to say just a word. In fact Jesus confirmed that he never found such faith in Israel {Matthew 8:5-10} yet he cured all those brought to him! So who told you that the sick need faith before Jesus can heal them? ![]() |
Ken4Christ:Why not try read the text in different versions for clearer understanding? ![]() |
Ken4Christ:The Bible explicitly stated that the dead are UNCONSCIOUS {Ecclesiastes 9:5-6} and there was no record of any activity in hell (grave) the Parable Jesus told the Pharisees had symbolic meaning if you want to know the meaning of the symbolic terms we will teach you but if not it's OK. All those claiming they've been to hell are doing so because that's what your religion taught them. There is no activity in hell (grave) where all of us are going at death! Ecclesiastes 9:10 ![]() |
Hismasterpiece:All you need is to humbly request a free home Bible study with us and we'll teach you many things, but if you choose to accuse us we will leave you alone. Jesus was resurrected in the spiritual body that angels always put on to become visible and felt by people. When three angels visited Abraham they ate the food prepared for them {Genesis 18:1-8} that's exactly what Jesus did to prove that he's now alive, at that time they can't understand so many things because they are not yet baptized in the spirit so Jesus can't tell them what will confuse or complicate things for them {John 16:12} that's what they grasped after they've been baptized in the spirit so Paul could say Jesus died as flesh but was raised a spirit! 1Corinthians 15:44-45 ![]() |
Jokerman:Jesus promised the first century Jewish disciples that God's Holy Spirit will teach them many sacred secrets {John 14:26; 16:12-13} so there are many things that nobody knew before then until the Holy Spirit revealed to the first century Jewish disciples of Christ. For instance, when Balak asked Ballam to help him cause the Israelites {Numbers 24:1-10} it failed but shortly after then 24,000 Israelites died because the Israelites men were committing sexual immorality with the daughters of Moab. Numbers 25:1-9 Did you know how it all started? Well it was the same Balaam who later advised the Moabite elders that the only way to make the God is Israel who has been blessing them turn against them is if they're made to commit adultery. It was a secret not known to anyone not until God's Holy Spirit revealed that secret to Apostle John! Revelations 2:14 Again the only thing all Israelites knew is that Moses died and they never saw his dead body till today, all what they heard is that God buried Moses {Deuteronomy 34:5-7} but it is God's Holy Spirit that revealed to Jude that Satan tried to make use of Moses's body and it turned into a dispute between Michael and Satan! Jude 9 So Enoch never wrote a single book because during his time there was nobody to support him in his preaching against ungodliness that's why God took him away from the midst of those evil people so they won't kill him the same way Cain killed Abel. But what transpired between him and those wicked people was revealed to the first century Christians by God's Holy Spirit! As for the angels working for God only two were mentioned by name Michael and Gabriel, any other spirit name are demons! ![]() |
Jokerman:Apart from Michael and Gabriel, can you quote any scripture where any other angelic name is mentioned? Well you need to know that those are demons not angels and Enoch never wrote any book! ![]() |
Ken4Christ:@ The dead aren't conscious {Ecclesiastes 9:5-6} Jesus got all authority from God nothing he got from devil perhaps your pastors fabricated that. @ The earth is the lower art Jesus descended to! John 8:23 @ Those are demons {2Peter 2:4} they never tasted death (non-existence) since they were created. So for Jesus the first born of all creation to die as in didn't exist anywhere for three days is like a preaching to them that their destruction is imminent! |
Jokerman:Just quote a verse in the Bible where another angel is called Archangel apart from Michael! ![]() |
Jokerman:Michael is the Archangel {Daniel 12:1} meaning the highest of all angels, that's why only Michael could be spoken of as having his own angels {Revelations 12:7} all the angels are God's children but because Michael is the first of all he leads them until Satan rebelled and some angels joined him in that rebellion so those that joined Satan became his followers! That's why you can never see any other angel called Archangel in the Bible. So when the Bible say Jesus has his angels {Matthew 25:31} and that he will call with the voice of the Archangel {1Thessalonians 4:16} there's nothing to doubt about him being the same Archangel! Jokerman:As the first creature God made Archangel Michael and other angels created after him were like Princes in heaven that's why he always refer to God as his father they are like the first family in the heavens just as the President and his family are first in any country! John 17:5 Jokerman:According to the Bible Jesus WAS (not IS) God {John 1:1} and the scriptures said he is the firstborn of all creation {Colossians 1:15} so he was CREATED! Proverbs 8:22 Jokerman:Archangel Michael said "JEHOVAH rebuke you" to Satan but because most of the versions you people use today have replaced God's name with the Title LORD you cannot figure out that Michael (Jesus) was disputing with Satan and saying "our father will judge you by Himself" |
Ken4Christ:Do you believe that the father was with the Son (Jesus) all through his earthly ministry? John 8:29 Well if you do please readjust your thinking because Jesus said: “With men it is impossible but not so with God, for ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WITH GOD.” Mark 10:27 Jesus mustn't fail in anything that's brought to him because that's the only evidence he has to prove that he is the Christ who will undo all the evil things both in heaven and on earth! Matthew 28:18 So please readjust your thinking! ![]() |
Sixfiguresmart:On the contrary, people like him are either brainwashed or trying to support their church so please don't tag any human as EVIL, to an extent we are all good and nice depending on the circumstances we find ourselves, that's why Jesus' preaching capitalized on how we can manage our circumstances instead of allowing it to mold us! ![]() |
Ken4Christ:I thought you will quote Jesus of Nazareth not talking about people who lived before the Kingdom of heaven became difficult to enter! Matthew 11:12 My friend Jesus taught us to live like average men in the society so we won't need to always go about with armed security guards {Luke 18:18-23} do you now see why those you mentioned can't follow Jesus' orders to preach from house to house and door to door? Matthew 10:11-13 Well it's due to their wealth and fear of those who are eyeing such material possessions that they can't obey Jesus. So they have to continue moving about with fully armed security guards to protect them from those in need of what they possessed. No wonder Jesus said: “How difficult it will be for those having money to make their way into the Kingdom of God! It is easier, in fact, for a camel to get through the eye of a sewing needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God.” Luke 18:24-25 So don't think any of those who lived before John are worthy of God's blessings like John the Baptist because Jesus himself said: "Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is" Matthew 11:11 Because after John the baptist whoever wants to worship the God of Abraham must forgo rishes! Matthew 6:24 compare to Luke 18:22 May you have PEACE! ![]() |
Ken4Christ:The prophets in the Old Testament weren't recognized elsewhere but within those who worship their God in Israel. So when Paul talked about the gifts of God's Holy Spirit he wasn't referring to titles to be attached to our names outside the congregation of God. God's servants only act as Prophets, Apostles, Teaches and Shepherds in the midst of their fellow believers otherwise it will be easy for their enemies to track them if they were going about back then with such titles. So learn today that we only have those offices as our ministerial duty posts not titles to be attached to our names publicly! Matthew 23:7 ![]() |
arejibadz:Paradise is what God planned in the beginning by making a small garden in the East where Adam and Eve lived before their rebellion, they and their children were to continue expanding that garden as each settles down with his own family in a garden next to one another until the whole earth will become a PARADISE. Genesis 1:26-28 But after the rebellion God drove them out of that beautiful garden for them to go and make such a place on their own since they chose to rebel against Him. That garden was there all along until the global deluge and it was washed away. So when Jesus promised a dying man beside him on the torture stake he was referring to the time when only obedient mankind will be here on earth to renovate the earth and make it just as JEHOVAH purposed in the beginning: “Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise.” Luke 23:43 So with JEHOVAH'S backing the survivors of this wicked system of things will make this planet a PARADISE {Psalms 67:6-7} then Jesus will resurrect that thief so that we can teach him how to live with us on a cleansed earth: PARADISE! Psalms 37:7-11; 29 ![]() |
Ken4Christ:So upon all your blind arguments on Nairaland, these are your so called Men Of God? Well this is not about judging but screening them through the spiritual lense Jesus gave all of us which is his WORDS! Are these people religious title chiefs in todays society ? Matthew 23:8 Do they go for higher seats at occasions and loved to be greeted with regards to their titles anywhere they go? Matthew 23:6-7 Do they set rules in the society so that their follower may protest against constituted authorities? Matthew 23:1-5 Do they collect religious rites from their followers to acquire material possessions in their own names? Matthew 23:23 What order from Jesus {Matthew 10:11-13} are those following them obeying in the society? Matthew 7:16-18 Are their followers harmless just as Jesus commanded his disciples not to lead with weapons? Matthew 26:52 What example are they setting for their followers, greed for worldly material possessions or heavenly glory? Matthew 6:24 |
arejibadz:NO! It's for the good of those living now because JEHOVAH will never again tolerate any rebellion after the destruction of this wicked system of things, but then when Paradise is here and there is no more death, sickness, sorrow or mourning children born that time may think of another system of rule other than THEOCRACY, if you happen to be there that time will you join such move? Surely not because you've experienced it's outcome which lasted not just for days, weeks, months, years but for thousands of years when JEHOVAH patiently allowed mankind to try all they could think about how to rule themselves successfully, in fact you will be grateful by then to share your experience with those inexperienced children born that time. Can you see the advantage of being part of those who are facing all this now? JEHOVAH is truly the WISEST of all! ![]() |
haekymbahd:The issue is about your use of the group name "CHRISTIANS" When you can just pick up a copy of the Bible, read what Jesus taught to know who are following his teaching, instead you want to generalize it as if that's what Jesus taught. So i come in to correct the view because it's only those obeying the instruction GOD passed through the prophet that you should focus not those claiming muslims and killing their neighbours. Please apply the same logic to the group name CHRISTIANS! ![]() |
mhmsadyq:Without bias can you compare the comments to ascertain who truly serve an intelligent God? ![]() |
Maynman:Calm down my friend, this is not one of those misinformed Churchgoers, this is one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. KNOWLEDGE is what we have above all other school of thought. So relax my friend and try to follow the chat between me and the OP! ![]() |
arejibadz:Because it's the only way forward, there's no other solution to the problem! God will eventually destroy Satan just as the other two rebels (Adam and Eve) were destroyed. But then Adam's descendants may face the same thing in the future perhaps another angel should raise the objection saying: "why must God be the one and only supreme ruler of the earth?" So to settle it once and for all times God must allow humans to try their ability in ruling over themselves. You know how many system of government mankind has tried over the centuries now yet none has brought about PEACE and SECURITY. So my friend it's about whose right is it to rule that's the problem as humans are raising different ideas yet all failed, the present system we're brandishing globally now is DEMOCRACY. Yet it's the same result! Ecclesiastes 4:1;8:9 God promised that He will not be too late over this issue {Habakkuk 2:3} God's Kingdom is coming {Matthew 6:10} but before then humans must globally confess that man can't rule over man successfully! Jeremiah 10:23 As for all these suffering each of us must face it so as to strengthen our faith when God finally destroy Satan, demons and all politicians dominating us! Daniel 2:44 Afterwards God will bring in Paradise on this same planet but whoever raises any objections by then will only be allowed to taste life for just a hundred years {Isaiah 65:20} and he will die as a youth while others who remain obedient will live forever! Psalms 37:29 ![]() |
Maynman:Guy, i pass you no be ṣeré ṣeré! Ẹni tó bá ju ni lọ, ó lè ju ni nù. I'm sure you've learnt your lesson now so i will stop responding to your frustrations! ![]()
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Maynman:OK you also want to set the rules, shey? ![]()
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Please arejibadz would like to continue or we close the chapter? ![]() |
KnownUnknown:Na wa o! Come and see gbege for Nairaland! Please Mr KnownUnknown this is the topic of the thread: "Why Is Religion So Bent On Suffering And Persecution?" ![]() |
Maynman:MindHacker my friend, This is what happens when you challenge someone much more intelligent than you are. I never knew you can stoop this low to restlessness and frustration with your so called KNOWLEDGE! ![]() Please can you stay on the topic of discussion? ![]()
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? That just my question