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AntiChristian:
Are you kidding me?
God is on its own.
god, gods, goddess, goddesses.
I think you may be right as Jehovah witness Jehovah can take the form of anything. He can be Moses God for Pharaoh. He can be Satan God of the world. He can be You are Gods. He can be God that lost to Jacob in battle.
Allah is far from all these demeaning descriptions!

Crizzycross:
It is not about quoting scriptures here and there. Many believers are wicked, No empathy for the downtrodden. I am in need and i need help. Where is the love that Christ preaches?

haekymbahd:
so do we pray to Muhammad or Gabriel to get to Allah is it not you christians that pray to Jesus who is a supposed mediator between man and God.


Why do you count catholic praying to Mary to get to Jesus as idolatory but praying to Jesus to get to God as right thing?


Or you want to say you don't know that some christians do pray to Jesus and Mary who is a supposed mediator if you don't fall in the group it is better you keep quiet cos majority of christians does?

Crizzycross:
I'm just afraid the whole thing. Diverse beliefs and doctrines everywhere. What is the way out?

cornelboy:
Lol why didn't your Allah bring the Koran himself and your religion?
Gabriel and Mohammed no suppose help am na.

Janosky:
No the saints or holy ones did not.
That translation of Matthew 27:53 did not give precise rendition of what took place.

w90 9/1 p. 7
‘Many Bodies of the Holy Ones Were Raised Up’

“THE earth quaked, and the rock-masses were split. And the memorial tombs were opened and many bodies of the holy ones that had fallen asleep were raised up, (and persons, coming out from among the memorial tombs after his being raised up, entered into the holy city,) and they became visible to many people.” (Matthew 27:51-53) Catholic scholar Karl Staab calls this event that occurred at Jesus’ death “most mysterious.” What happened?

Epiphanius and other early Church Fathers taught that the holy ones literally came to life and went with the resurrected Jesus to heaven. Augustine, Theophylactus, and Zigabenus believed that these dead ones received a temporary resurrection but later returned to their tombs. The latter opinion, however, “did not gain wide recognition,” comments scholar Erich Fascher. When rendering Matthew 27:52, 53, many modern Bible translations give the impression that a resurrection took place. Not so the New World Translation, which points to the effects of an earthquake. Why?

First, whoever “the holy ones” were, Matthew did not say they were raised up. He said their bodies, or corpses, were. Second, he did not say these bodies came to life. He said they were raised up, and the Greek verb e·geiʹro, meaning to “raise up,” does not always refer to a resurrection. It can, among other things, also mean to “lift out” from a pit or to “get up” from the ground. (Matthew 12:11; 17:7; Luke 1:69) The upheaval at Jesus’ death opened tombs, tossing lifeless bodies into the open. Such occurrences during earthquakes were reported in the second century C.E. by Greek writer Aelius Aristides and more recently, in 1962, in Colombia.

This view of the event harmonizes with Bible teachings. In 1 Corinthians chapter 15, the apostle Paul gives convincing proof of the resurrection, but he completely ignores Matthew 27:52, 53. So do all other Bible writers. (Acts 2:32, 34) The corpses raised up at Jesus’ death could not have come to life in the way Epiphanius thought, for on the third day thereafter, Jesus became “the firstborn from the dead.” (Colossians 1:18) Anointed Christians, also called “holy ones,” were promised a share in the first resurrection during Christ’s presence, not in the first century.​—1 Thessalonians 3:13; 4:14-17.

Most Bible commentators have difficulty explaining Mt 27 verse 53, although several of them suggest that Mt 27 verse 52 describes the opening of tombs by the earthquake and the exposing of newly buried corpses. For example, German scholar Theobald Daechsel gives the following translation: “And tombs opened up, and many corpses of saints laying at rest were lifted up.”

Who were those that “entered into the holy city” a considerable time later, namely after Jesus had been resurrected? As seen above, the exposed bodies remained lifeless, so Matthew must refer to persons who visited the tombs and brought news of the event into Jerusalem. Thus, the rendering of the New World Translation deepens Bible understanding and does not confuse readers concerning the resurrection"


JWs consulted Emphatic Diaglott of 1864 & Sahidic Coptic Bible as well as thorough examination of Greek grammatical construct which is reflected in your own Bible when it suits your Trinity mentors.

Whenever any Greek Bible texts references Theos (God) more than once, the Most High God is always differentiated by definite article ("ho/the" as ho Theos /the God),the other Theos is rendered as "a god" because that is not the God Most High.

Oga, your Bible translations did so at Acts 12:22-23 & Acts 28:6.
Did Johannes Grieberr revealed that to them?

John1:1,1 Corinthian 11:3,John 14:1, Acts 3:13, Greek Interlinear Bible proven that ho Theos
The God is head & Superior over Jesus Christ his son & servants.
Jesus Christ, Paul,John & Peter confirmed that.

MindHacker9009:
You always like to claim that you alone have the understanding of the Bible and you did mention that the saints did not come out of the tomb when Jesus was crucified but Matthew tells us that they did, so where do you get your information concerning the Bible from is it from Johannes Grieberr who "was a spiritualist heavily involved with the occult his translation was completed under the direction of spirit messengers with the aid of his wife who is a self-professed spirit medium"
Johannes Grieberr too wrote that the saints did not leave their tombs.

AntiChristian:
We pray to Allah directly without any intermediary! We don't pray in Muhammad's name nor pray to Muhammad.

The Prophets are to connect people directly to their LORD not through intermediaries!

Jesus directed all his prayers to God in heaven never to himself.

AntiChristian:
It sure doesn't have same meaning!

AntiChristian:
Seems you no get shame at all?
Answer each questions i poss back there.

johnydon22:
How do you find out his plan, let me guess, read the bible?

MindHacker9009:
Are most of your views based on that of Johannes Grieberr who "was a spiritualist heavily involved with the occult his translation was completed under the direction of spirit messengers with the aid of his wife who is a self-professed spirit medium"
If not where do you get your views from, you must have been inspired by someone else's teachings as you were not there when the events happened. Johannes Grieberr too wrote that the saints did not leave their tombs.
I'm not surprised you will avoid my post here as your source of information has been busted.

AntiChristian:
How is this arrogance? Na website dey define the name of our book?
Shame to mediocrity and ignorance!
People are doing it like this so let's keep doing it like that mentality.
So why do you guys put "Jehovah" as the name of your Yahweh when most others use LORD?
Can't you do what they do since it's common and on many other websites?
Why was Jehovah witness created since many other Christian sects are common?
Shouldn't you have joined the bandwagon of christianhood?
Hypocrisy at it's peak!
O Allah! Remove Nifaq/kufr from me and my household.

AntiChristian:
God or god?

If you claim it is "God" then you're a liar.

Cos hear O Israel the Lord our God is one!

So Jesus is mighty God.

Jehovah is another God.

Moses is another God.

One God fought Jacob and lost.

You are Gods.

Satan is God.

So how do we reconcile your lies with all these?

Gods or gods? God or god?

cornelboy:
So it's until you explicitly say "I teach the Trinity" before you teach and defended it abi?

achorladey:
Is it TRUE me and you worship the same God described in Exodus 3:14?
MaxInDHouse

cornelboy:
Keep trying hard to save face.
God is trinity or not?

cornelboy:
He even denied that he hasn't teach or defended the trinity doctrine on nairaland.

cornelboy:
God is trinity or one person?

achorladey:
Is it TRUE me and you worship the same God described in Exodus 3:14?
MaxInDHouse take note
If you like call thought provoking question or insanity provoking question Na your palaver. The day you answer the question. Is the day you get answer to yours

For this nairaland, all of us go learn.

Maynman:
Bla bla, ride on believer

achorladey:
Is it TRUE me and you worship the same God described in Exodus 3:14?

MaxInDHouse take note

MaxInDHouse:
The talent Jesus talked about is a measure of God's Holy Spirit, each JW is given a measure according to what Jesus knew you need to do the work of an evangelizer.
But when someone proved to be useless then even the talent (measure) in his care will be taken and given to another person who knows it's value and how to make use of it!

Test acholardey by asking him thought provoking questions that requires Bible quotes and see how much he could remember in what he's trying to argue about!

Maynman:
Who ask you story? Mr believer
If you love it you won’t be complaining about it, hin dey pinch you na why you dey explain unnecessarily , keep on believing other witnesses and don’t experience/know it yourself.

achorladey:
Is it TRUE me and you worship the same God described in Exodus 3:14?

Bonus question

Is it TRUE that WTBTS aka Jehovah's witnesses are the only TRUE CHRISTIANS?

MaxInDHouse take note

MaxInDHouse:
Is the true God trinity? YES or NO

Janosky:
Is Acts 3:13,Acts 15:14 & Isaiah 43:10,21(ASV) in Oga OLAADEGBU Bible?
Yes !
Oga STOP LYING

Maynman:
Sure. keep on believing, believer

achorladey:


Na so life be. You can keep seeking for response. Or resume calling people INSANE and MAD. It leads to everlasting life you know

MaxInDHouse:
Is the true God trinity? YES or NO

Maynman:
Ride on believer .

Maynman:
Yes believer.

achorladey:
Is it TRUE me and you worship the same God described in Exodus 3:14?

And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.

At this God said to Moses: “I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE.”+ And he added: “This is what you are to say to the sons of Israel, ‘I SHALL PROVE TO BE has sent me to YOU.’

MaxInDHouse:
Is the true God trinity? YES or NO