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Maynman:Ironically the highlighted is what you're doing right now because the OP has nothing to do with what you're typing and pasting now! ![]() |
Maynman:Wow! So you KNOW what he's looking for even when he's sceptical about the whole idea of God! ![]() Come on my friend, i thought you said you only say what you KNOW, how come you're now becoming a spokesman for another person? ![]() |
mhmsadyq:Thanks for the understanding. Meanwhile i don't argue blindly but i only shed light on issues raised on Nairaland by people like you and i who wants to know certain things. If you know and you failed to help such ones then your God is not the true God. We must help where the need arises but if you don't want such help then i will not force myself on you. ![]() |
Maynman:It's OK for now allow the OP to reason with me if truly he's intelligent as he thinks! ![]() |
Maynman:What a pity! ![]() MindHacker has become so restless and you're now trailing MaxInDHouse everywhere on Nairaland. Well allow the OP for now at least he wants to reason with others so calm down you don't have to be this restless; ![]() |
mhmsadyq:According to the topic OP feels it's wrong for God to use a mediator between Him and humans. All these stories are irrelevant so far you're here in Nigeria using a book and language of another man from Saudi Arabia to worship your God. For the OP to be guiltless of the same accusation he mustn't worship the God explained to him by another man most especially not someone from far away! ![]() |
arejibadz:That's why you need to study the Bible instead of presuming how God should react to those who are lower to Him. He is not a bully rather He wants everyone to have equal right even though He is the Creator He doesn't want to force His opinion on anyone. The problem we're facing on this planet today is due to what happened in the beginning but before you can understand remember those involved aren't mortals like you and i, so their reasoning differs from the way you and i who have expiring date do reason! ![]() |
Please penguin2 whenever you're ready for further discussion on the topic i'm still yours sincerely MaxInDHouse! ![]() |
I'm interested in PENGUIN because i know he's sincere in his request so keep your PERSONAL opinion Sir while i keep mine! ![]() |
arejibadz:Because you are involved in their beef! ![]() |
Now you can continue with your restlessness MindHacker, "i pass you" no be ṣeré ṣeré o. JEHOVAH has given us the wisdom to silence any antagonist of pure worship {Isaiah 54:17} that's why i often laugh each time you think of challenging me because i KNOW you will end up frustrated with whatever you think you know! ![]() |
Maynman:The God whom we are worshiping kept warning the Israelites back then until He finally rejected them. So we are free to disengage them and their style of pronouncing the name of OUR God, we prefer JEHOVAH to YAHWEH and here comes the result. The true God is now ANSWERING us as all the promises He made to His loyal worshipers are fulfilling in our midst. Please ask those Judaists to call upon the name of their God the best way they know and let's see if His promises will be fulfilled in their midst! This is what JEHOVAH promised: In the last days the mountain of the LORD’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Micah 4:1-3 Another prophecy even added saying: "Then I will purify the lips of the peoples, that all of them may call on the name of the LORD and serve him shoulder to shoulder" Zephaniah 3:9 Only among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are these having fulfilment Sir! The Jews are even divided against themselves as there are dozens of sect with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines in the name "YAHWEH" they prefer but as for JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES millions across the globe are unitedly worshiping JEHOVAH as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! So if you want to know the truth today is that day for you. TRUTH is in action throughout the earth WORKING out BENEFITS while the Jews are confused among themselves because Jesus of Nazareth said: "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters". Luke 11:23 I told you we don't just READ and concluded we KNOW but we ascertain the outcome to be sure of what we READ so that we can TRUST (BELIEVE) it! 1Thessalonians 5:21; James 2:18-26 Thanks for your time! ![]() |
Maynman:Though this is not related to the topic of discussion but for the benefit of other followers of this thread i will respond to your childish argument only this once! ![]() There was no alphabet "J" in the Hebrew language and moreover the name of the God of Abraham known as the "Divine name" wasn't written with vowels (a e i o u) it's rendered in four consonants YHWH. And after Jesus' death the Jews exterminated all the pioneers of Christianity the Jews had a custom based on superstition not to pronounce the Divine name. That was how the original pronunciation of the divine name was lost. So there arose speculations and arguments on the right vowels added back in Jesus' days to pronounce the Divine name. That's why some Jewish Rabbis concluded on the pronunciation "YAHWEH" for over a thousand years until Bible scholars raised the objection that those Jewish Rabbis are wrong! WHY? First of all there was no "J" in the ancient Hebrew language so names like Jacob, Judah, Job, Jeroboam, Jonathan, Jeremiah including Jerusalemu shouldn't be in use if we are to go by the arguments of those Jewish Rabbis in Judaism. Then the argument was raised again that since the alphabet "J" isn't in their ancestral language how come this people accepted the "J" today using it to pronounce the most important city where their temple is built "Jerusalem" "Jews" and the funniest part is that they're proudly called "Judaists" ![]() So most Bible scholars agreed that this Judaists have lost it we need to find a way of pronouncing the Divine name that will correlate with other Biblical name like Jacob, Judah, Job, Jeroboam, Jonathan, Jeremiah and Jerusalem. That's why they came up with the four consonants "JHVH" and after adding vowels to it the name JEHOVAH became a replacement for YAHWEH. So if you prefer the old style then don't forget never to pronounce names like Jacob, Judah Job, Jeroboam, Jonathan, Jeremiah, John, Jerusalemu, Jews and even Judaism. Thanks for your time! ![]() |
AntiChristian:OK let's turn the matter to jokes! ![]() Before 200 years after Jesus' ascension to the heavens his disciples were known for preaching and teaching in all the province of the Mediterranean Sea, they visit their neighbours in their homes, they don't support politicians so as not to damper the love among themselves, they're easygoing and obedient to the authorities so they don't join in protests against constituted authorities! Before 1914 there was no group practicing this so if someone should ask you about Jesus and his disciples a sincere and honest hearted answer from you should be "Christians have different denominations" Or "i only know a group called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Well you and i may have been raised in Islam but i'm not going to deceive myself when i can see the truth! ![]() |
AntiChristian:Please teach me how to refute it if it's not true! ![]() |
AntiChristian:Why not do yourself a favour by reading what Jesus taught and figure out the answer yourself? Well the answer to your question is NONE! About 200 years after Jesus' ascension there was no GROUP practicing what Jesus taught on planet earth again not until 1914 when he returned as a mighty spirit King and began gathering honest hearted people again! Luke 18:8 Stubbornness won't help you my friend, that is the absolute TRUTH! ![]() |
Penguin2:Today the EAGLES (obedient humans from all races throughout the earth) have gathered around the BODY (the remnants of Jesus' anointed brothers) and we are feeding on the things the BODY produces! Luke 17:37 The EAGLES are known globally today as (Jehovah's Witnesses) but we know that the real Jehovah's Witnesses are the brothers of Christ who are teaching us all these sacred secrets. They are the government Jesus is using to rule us globally so we call them the Governing BODY! Good morning, God bless you and may you have PEACE! ![]() |
AntiChristian:Keep deceiving yourself! ![]() I know that there's no truth in Islam that's why you can't present any group practicing your religion in the right sense. Just present a sect in Islam that's practicing what that book says so we can know that those killing people up and down are FAKE! ![]() |
genkins:Please are those clutches USED or NEW ones? "You will know the truth and the truth will set you free" {John 8:32} ~ Jesus of Nazareth! ![]()
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AntiChristian:He opens his hands to bless all living creatures so whether you're worshiping Him or not God doesn't deprive you of good things {Matthew 5:45} so even when He has no direct business with most people they're thinking it's their Ògún, Ọbàtálá, Ọ̀ṣẹ̀rẹ̀màgbò, Amadioa, Zeus, Hermes or Jupiter that's answering their prayers whereas God is blessing all living things now. But when God's Kingdom comes only disciples of Jesus will be saved. Even your own religion says something similar when they call the true God "Ọba Àjọkẹ́ Ayé, Ọba àṣàkẹ́ Ọ̀run" AntiChristian:Mankind was alienated from God but He chose a nation (Israel) gave them His rules and promised to always answer their prayers anytime they called upon Him in a righteous way. Exodus 19:5-6 God purposely chose that nation as a means through which the Messiah/ Christ/ Saviour will be born {Isaiah 9:6} so they're not to rely solely on the rules given to them, when the Messiah (Christ) come whoever failed to listen to him will be cast out (even if such a person is still obeying the old rules) Deuteronomy 18:15-19 ![]() |
mhmsadyq:He mediates between you and your God that's why you need to learn his language and obey the rules set in the book (Qu'ran) brought all the way from Saudi Arabia to you here in Africa! So the OP has a God who also use a mediator to reach him! ![]()
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Ken4Christ:Once a man leaves the gathering of fellow believers and chose to be addressed as Pastor, Prophet, Apostle, Reverend or any other title having to do with religion in the public Jesus Christ of Nazareth said such a person is FAKE! But you, do not you be called Rabbi (religious teacher), for one is your Teacher, and all of you are brothers. Matthew 23:8 So whenever you see anyone addressed with a religious title in the public {Matthew 23:5-7} know today that he is an agent of the Devil all true believers bow to each word Jesus uttered out from his mouth because we know that not a single word of Jesus should be ignored! ![]() |
Ken4Christ:LIES! LIES!! LIES!!! Jesus WAS God in their midst {John 1:1 compare to Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23} so whether you believe or not once you are carried to him you will be healed! Majority of those who got healed by Jesus later turned back and never followed him again {John 6:66} perhaps they will go to heaven for once being disciples shey? Stop deceiving yourselves. Whatever makes a sick person leaves the comfort of his home to a place simply because he heard a man of God is there surely is evidence of faith! ![]() |
Penguin2:Thanks for following Sir! Now let's attend to the underlined question: Isaiah prophesied that the Messiah will be accused and executed like a common criminal {Isaiah 53:12} this actually happened to Jesus of Nazareth! Moses was the first prophet ever known from the time Israelites became a nation, we can also borrow a leaf from his prophecy regarding the Messiah. In his prophecy Moses emphasized that the people must LISTEN to the Messiah because all those who failed to do so will loose God's favour {Deuteronomy 18:19} then he continued by telling them how to recognize a false prophet perhaps they may be confused regarding the appearance of the Messiah: However, you may say in your heart: “How will we know that Jehovah has not spoken the word?” When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then Jehovah did not speak that word. The prophet spoke it presumptuously. You should not fear him! Deuteronomy 18:21-22 Jesus prophesied a lot but noteworthy is the prophecy regarding God's promise of the Holy Spirit which will eventually occur immediately after the Messiah has offered the ultimate sacrifice! Joel 2:28-30 Even Jesus' disciples were still sceptical about him not until the day of pentecost when this prophecy came to fulfilment {Act 2:1-3} until that day Peter and the rest were still confused whether Jesus is the Messiah or not but after that day they were fully prepared to lay down their lives for the course because Jesus actually promised them that he will SEND the Holy Spirit when he gets back to heaven! John 14:25-29; 16:12-14 This is why those few seemingly gullible Jews were prepared to die for Jesus because they had the assurance apart from all what Jesus did in their presence that he is truly the Messiah or Christ! Penguin2:That is possible but the prophecies fulfilled in the life of this man are viable reasons to believe in him. For instance David prophesied that the Israelites will treat the Messiah badly {Psalms 22:18; John 19:24} Penguin2:From the onset Satan has been causing a lot of confusion so he is the brain behind the ill-treatment Israelites gave the promised Messiah. So while God was making plans to save mankind Satan and his demons were also working sleeplessly to make sure that nobody remains a worshiper of God by the time God decided to destroy Satan and his cohorts. May you have PEACE! ![]() |
TenQ:Thanks Sir and may you have PEACE! ![]() |
Thanks Sir! ![]() TenQ: |
Penguin2:I love a phrase in your first post that says: Penguin is a bird of reason!I belong to a spiritual group known as EAGLES, this bird is wise because it can see good things from afar! Luke 17:37 Now back to the topic of discussion! Mankind wouldn't have any need for a saviour or Messiah from the beginning if Adam hasn't brought a curse on the earth! Genesis 3:17 So the promise of a Messiah (Saviour) was first made when God mercifully considered Adam's descendants who are innocent of the rebellion that happened in the garden of Eden. Genesis 3:15 Ever since then mankind have been looking forward to see that child (SEED) which will undo the evil brought upon the human race by Adam's rebellion. God called a man from the middle east known as Abraham and promised him that this SEED will be born through his lineage so that entire human race could be saved {Genesis 12:1-3} Abraham's wife was barren so he slept with a slave girl who bore him a son, Abraham concluded that God's promises will come through this child but God told him the promise will be transferred to the son that would be born by his legal wife who has grown old! Genesis 17:18-21 That's why the Israelites keep expecting these promised Messiah until they were enslaved in Egypt and God raised Moses as a saviour to rescue them, but for them to know that Moses is not the promised Messiah God told the Israelites that a prophet like Moses will be raised among them so that's the Messiah they should listen to! Deuteronomy 18:15-19 So whenever any prophet is raised among them they will start contemplating "could this be the Messiah?" God often tell the prophets to prophesy about another person. For instance Isaiah that you mentioned told the Israelites: For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. To the increase of his rulership And to peace, there will be no end, On the throne of David and on his kingdom In order to establish it firmly and to sustain it Through justice and righteousness, From now on and forever. The zeal of Jehovah of armies will do this. Isaiah 9:6-7 So it's evident that Isaiah is not the promised Messiah (Christ) that Moses talked about! The last prophet whose words are found in the Bible before the gospel accounts is called "Malachi" what did this man say about the Messiah? Look! I am sending my messenger, and he will clear up a way before me. And suddenly the true Lord, whom you are seeking, will come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant will come, in whom you take delight. Look! He will certainly come,” says Jehovah of armies! Malachi 3:1 So once again Malachi (the last prophet some 500 years before Jesus) confirmed that the Messiah (Christ) is still coming, therefore none of all the prophets that ever known in Israel is the expected Messiah. Please should i continue or stop here? ![]()
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TenQ: MaxInDHouse: |
God never promised any race the grace to perform miracles except the children of Israel so after the nation rejected the Christ God gave sincere and honest hearted ones among them a sign when only believers in Jesus could perform miracles but only the Israelites among them no none Israelites performed a single miracle. That's why you can't see anyone no matter how much he/she claims to believe in Jesus that's performing real miracles apart from the Israelites and that privileged ended with Jesus first century disciples! ![]() |
Penguin2:Will you like to discuss on some indisputable facts pointing to Jesus Christ of Nazareth as the real Messiah (Christ)? ![]() |
BuharisBoy:Hero according to a Dictionary: Somebody who possesses great bravery and carries out extraordinary or noble deeds. A role model. Going by the above definition that man from Nazareth who was raised by a carpenter, lived only 33 years, gathered hundreds of dedicated followers (disciples), boldly faced hypocritical religious leaders of his day, was hated by many to the point of being accused, arrested, charged, arraigned, persecuted, judged, sentenced and executed all due to jealousy, and whose name continue to remain relevant some 2,000 years later is what to you Sir? ![]() Well if you ask me i will tell you that this young Jewish man is much more than just a hero but the greatest man who ever lived! ![]()
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Emusan:In as much as i love sharing my time with people who wants to learn or say what they know, i easily get pissed off with those using abusive speeches. So Mr Emusan do you want to have a tactful conversation having to do with reasoning from the scriptures or you just want to abuse based on the attitude of some you've been chatting with? If you want a tactful conversation then i will oblige so we can see that the resurrection Paul was talking about here is not for all! ![]() |
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