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Maynman:
So you can see that your Bible is contradicting. Is Isaiah 45:7 not in the Bible ooh the Torah.
How do you know something is good if you have not seen it in a bad way?

Keep asking questions so you can learn! Matthew 7:7-8

I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. Isaiah 45:7

God created water, fire and other things like gases. You can choose to use fire and water while cooking, and you can choose to burn your fellowman to death or drown him using what God created.

Nebuchadnezzar wanted to use fire to burn God's servants for refusing to worship his image but the Creator who knew all the elements that formed fire turned what He created into Air-conditioner for His own servants.


That's the import of what you're reading Sir!

Maynman:
Christian Greek scriptures is not Old Testament, Greek is Athens, it was written in Hebrew by Jews.

There you go again saying what you don't know!
The Christians though they are Jews wrote all their own books in the popular language that's widely spoken in the first century (Greek)

Maynman:
What does isiah 45:7 mean?
How do you know something is good if you have not seen it in a bad way before? How were you able to differentiate it?
Who created “evil”? Since your god did not create it .
The vengeful and wrath of your god are they good traits?

Keep asking and you will learn! Matthew 7:7-8

According to Genesis 1:31 it's clear that God created everything and it was GOOD so what you're quoting simply means He will allow you to choose whatever you want to become.
While you are seeing others taking up virtuous lifestyles if you choose to be evil it's not His fault so He will have to return you to where you will be of good use to the living (dust) and you will become manure for us to plant food! Psalms 83:10

Maynman:
Your god is EVIL then.. a good man will never harm.. is evil a good thing?
Who created the wicked man In proverb 16:7? Is

If the evil people can gather themselves and live our planet home He will not destroy them but since He wants us to enjoy lasting peace then there's no other way than to get rid of you people!

Maynman:
Can a good man do evil?
What did god mean that he created all things for a purpose including a wicked man? What did he mean? Who created the wicked man? You are not been sincere because you have been brainwashed. What does isiah 45:7 mean?
How do you know something is good if you have never seen it in a bad way?
Are you quoting Torah now?

God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning —the sixth day. Genesis 1:31

What he created was the time for you to develop whatever you will choose to become either good or evil with your God's given freewill.

YES i'm quoting the same books where you're getting it all wrong, because if i quote where it is fully explained in the Christian Greek Scriptures you call Old Testament you won't see reasons. So i'm quoting the same books to show you how you're missing out the motive behind God's word!

Maynman:
All you said now, is that the qualities of love? Merciful? Peace?
Your good god can use EVIL too?
I ask again can a good man cause harm?
it isn’t the function of a just person to harm a friend or anyone else, but that of his opposite, an unjust person.
Is justice not a virtue? Is evil a virtue?

YES! He is ready to pay evil for evil in the case of UNREPENTANT evildoers.
He is the landlord of this planet so He will not tolerate wickedness forever, and mind you He didn't create us to be robotic it's each person that's choosing what they want to become!

Maynman:
What do proverb 16:4 say?
Will your god punish the wicked man for carrying out the purpose your “loving” god created it for? Should the wicked man ask for forgiveness? Also can a good god create a wicked man? Can a good god have wicked purposes?

"The LORD works out everything to its proper end — even the wicked for a day of disaster" Proverbs 16:4

Ask for the meaning of whatever you read in our book (Bible) your atheistic mindset won't help you here!
God didn't create any human to be evil Sir, according to His word everything He created in the beginning was GOOD! Genesis 1:31

What you're reading simply means He will allow the wicked man to pile up his evil deeds so that God's Holy name may be justified when He comes to destroy the wicked.

But if a wicked man turn away from his evil deeds our God is ready to forgive in a large way! Exodus 34:7; Numbers 14:18

So ask questions and LEARN!

Maynman:
Is vengeance and wrath a peaceful trait? Is a just man a good man? Can a good man cause harm under any circumstances?
Your religion is not all peaceful just like Islam too, your god can use evil to punish evil people

YES! He will surely use evil to punish evil people but intelligently He will not cause a confusion while doing so that's why He warned us to stay clear out of His judgment so that He does the judging all by Himself.
So while He is coming to destroy people like you we are to continue living peacefully with you so that your blood should not be spilled through our hands!
Do you now see the sense behind His plans?

He will send His angels to come and destroy you while we will hold our peace! Exodus 14:14

Maynman:
In the Bible, god said he is vengeful and full of wrath, is that the trait of peace?

When a spirit says He is vengeful and full of wrath against those ruining our planet home, how does that sound to you?
For your information He is not siding anyone on that even the Israelites got a taste of his vengeance and wrath anytime they go against His orders so that has nothing to do with His plans to restore peace.
Learn that there can never be peace without justice first~ Peter Toch

So God's vengeance is against those ruining the earth Sir! Revelations 11:18

Image123:
Lol, it always pains you when i tell you the truth about your state. But don't let it just pain you, change your ways and believe Jesus as your Lord, Saviour and God. i will be back to reply your wailing.

Misinformed Churchgoer!

MALIGNANTGuest:
NIGERIAN CHURCHES are not churches but shopping malls.
How can Devils erect a Church?
Is that possible?.
How can such a terrible nation own a lot of churches.
It simply tells you the crime perpetrators also own churches too.

When the first century Jewish carpenter known as Jesus Christ commissioned this movement he never taught them that they'll become rich while practicing what he taught them.
In fact he admonished them to throw away all material possessions that could attract faces because that's what is leading many into crime but today what do we have?
Many greedy merchandise claiming "men of God" and many are following them, such greedy religious leaders will then gather heavily armed security operatives to protect them even in the midst of their gullible followers!
So it's clear that what majority call Christianity today is another face of politics.
In 1931 something significant happened in Ohio in America. A group of worshipers claiming Bible students were nicknamed by the general public "Russelites" according to the first president of the group, so they gather to deliberate on the name people were calling them as they aren't feeling comfortable being called by the name of any man.
That day a new name was revealed but it's later after many decades that i discovered that God's word already foretold a time when what happened that day will take place.
In the Bible book of Isaiah 65:15 God said He will call His own worshipers by another name when all false religionists have defamed the name people thought belongs to His worshipers.
The name most people were looking up to is "CHRISTIANS" but today the name God is calling His own worshipers is "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"
That's why the expected FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit is being produced by only this group today! Matthew 7:16-18

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Image123:
You don't believe Him, you don't know Him and you don't obey Him. You obey your religious company, not Jesus.

Your problem is CREDULITY instead of learning what it means to be a Christian you people have set up your own form of righteousness and trying to attach it to Jesus {Romans 10:2-3} by the end of the day you all turn different directions while claiming denominations in Christendom. Luke 11:23
In what way are you a Christian?
The group name "CHRISTIANS" was first heard in Antioch when the inhabitants of that town noticed a group headed by Jews practicing what Jesus (the man called Christ) usually do during his life time.
The preaching and teaching was so extensive that they began calling them by his title "CHRISTIANS"
So stop deceiving yourself it's not just what some people imagined he should be but what Jesus taught.
I quoted him and told you how his teachings are practicalized you can't even quote anything he taught all what you carry in your empty skull is the things your religious leaders deceiving you with magical tricks told you.
So no matter how much a person speak or practice what Jesus taught so far you're not seeing magical tricks like the way your pastors do you think such a person isn't a Christian.

That's why you opened a thread stated things you can't explain and attached it all to Jesus according to your TRINITY dogma but when an atheist came in to challenge you you became silent since you don't have the knowledge to explain your trinity Faith.

I will leave you as usual and keep waiting for you to come after me as you often do then calling me names all because you're jealous of the efficacy in the way true Christians handle the truth aright! 2Timothy 2:15

cornelboy:
Bro MaxinDhouse he's confused.
Just like some Nigerians would call seasoning cubes generally "Maggi" whereas Maggi is just a brand among seasoning cubes is the same way he thought every person in Israel was/is a Jew
I learnt a lot from your posts

Thanks brother, you got the fitting illustration.
He is confused like other atheists as usual, when they come in contact with a believer who gives them viable reasons for faith they felt challenged and instead of humbly requesting for sound proofs on how faith works they are provoked. I found out he has learned few things but since it's pride that led them into atheism he is feeling really bitter that a so called believer has insulted his intelligence.

It's just a pity that you're worried yet you're not interested in God's word you just want to misconstrue everything to justify the atheism in your heart.

Abraham had two sons.
Ishmael and Isaac

Isaac had two sons.
Esau and Jacob

Jacob had twelve sons out of which Judah and Benjamin happens to be the fourth and last sons respectively.

It was after only these two tribes produced the first and second Israelite Kings Saul and David that the remaining ten tribes abandoned them so they remained in Judea and were called "JEWS" so in what way can Moses who lived thousand if years before the birth of the Jewish nation could be a Jew?

You're just disturbing yourself on what is clear that you don't know!
Moses lived thousand years before the birth of the Jewish nation so how can he be a Jew?
It's like calling Noah an Israelite!

Image123:
Lol, loler, lolest. Now your beliefs are irrelevant but you think your obedience isn't, right? Your lack of belief show you don't honor or obey Jesus. Reason am.

I can call Jesus my gateman but it's the way i pay rapt attention to his command that says the truth about how i esteem him in my heart.
So obeying him matters not just calling him "LORD! LORD!!" {Matthew 7:21-23 without doing what he orders which is the will of his father! Matthew 17:5

I'll believe no matter what you feel so it's OK!

It's OK, let it go, after all you don't believe in any God so why been upset?
It's OK Sir!

Wow!
Quoting the same post three consecutive times!
Well, sorry for taunting you this much Sir!

Image123:
Lol, the whole world quotes and misquoted Him. Do you believe He is God? Do you believe He is coming to take you to Heaven?

The whole world quotes and misquote him yet we are talking about OBEYING his instructions now!
Whatever i believe about Jesus doesn't affect you but your disobedience could lead you into carrying weapons against your fellow Churchgoers!

Image123:
Nope, you don't even believe Him. How can you obey Him?

I quote him and tell how we apply yet you're arguing when you can't point to where or how you are obeying him.
I hope it's the same Jesus of Nazareth that the Bible is talking about that you're talking and not some fabricated Jesus of your pastors!

Image123:
Lol, a doctrine of convenience and confusion to distract again. Tell me what Putin, Russia and Ukraine have got to do with Jwickedness honoring Jesus who they don't even accept as their Lord and God.

Well we are obeying him!
Matthew 26:52
Because we love him! John 15:14

Maynman:
What’s the tribe of Moses? Why did you lie that he is not Jew?

This will be the last response from me to you on this thread, you can continue with your friends!

Moses is from the tribe of Levi (Jacob's third son) but Jewish nation came when the two ruling tribes of Judah and Benjamin were deserted by the other ten tribes. The two tribes started referring to themselves as Jews, the Levites were staying in Jerusalem temple.

So Moses and all other who lived until the time that nation was formed aren't Jews but Israelites!

Farewell Sir!

Maynman:
Your first 5 book was gotten from Torah, you copied it that’s why it’s called collection of books(Bible)

Whatever soothes you my friend, i believe you already see reasons why i believe in Jesus Christ of Nazareth!
Thanks for your time!

Maynman:
Stop lying and learn

I purposely keep responding to prove to you that true Christians have what it takes to believe not just blind faith.
Thank for your time!

Image123:
What has your brothers in the Russian army killing fellow believers in Ukraine and Putin talk have to do with honoring Jesus and hearts. Have you gotten drunk yet again?

My own brothers will never carry weapons against our fellowman as commanded by Jesus of Nazareth. Matthew 26:52
Can you also say the same about your fellow Churchgoers you call "Christians" ?

Maynman:
The first 5 book of the Bible is called torah, why did the Christian add it? And keep quoting verses in the Torah
Define Torah, and who is it meant for.

Anybody can call any part of our book the name they like!

Maynman:
Why are you lying? Where did you get this? The “Jewish nation” is called? Isreal?

Just humble yourself and learn!

Maynman:
You reject it but added it to the Bible? The first 5 book of the Bible is called Torah, stop living in denial.
Why did you lie that Moses is not jew?

It's the word of our God so you can call it whatever you like we know it's usefulness, and stop calling Moses a Jew it's like calling Abraham an Israelite when the nation of Israel came into existence after Jacob's children have grown into a mighty nation!

Maynman:
It’s called Torah and it’s been used by Judaist, stop living in denial. Why did you lie that Moses is not Jew?

Moses is not a Jew because the Jewish nation came into existence thousands of years after the death of Moses!

Maynman:
The name of the first 5 books of the Bible is called Torah(believe it or not it doesn’t matter) fact is fact. it was gotten from Judaism .. If you reject Torah you reject the first 5 books of the Bible. Keep living in denial..

God's word we obey but the name faithless Israelites wants us to call it we will reject!

Maynman:
All these people you mentioned are they Jews? What’s the Torah? Who is it meant for?

Good!
Now you're learning!
They aren't Jews so our God called himself the "God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob" sorry the Jews came to meet the program so it's not their own rather they can only make it their own by subjecting themselves to the progressive development but if they refuse then the God of Abraham will go for people from all other nations and gather faithful people as children for His friend (Abraham)