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Àyìnlá Ọmọ Wúrà said:

Kí ẹ tó sọ irọ́ d'òtító á pẹ́ kí ẹ tó sọ pé màálù ní ṣ'ọkọ ewúrẹ́!

Loosely translated

It will cost the hypocrites so much time to turn lies to truth, it's not easy to convince anyone that the cow is responsible for the kid inside the goat's womb!

Acholardey can't make a straightforward response all because he doesn't want the truth!

tctrills:
If you kept your comments to religion that would have been great but you venture into a field you know nothing about.
It's these same Faithless researchers that have made the world a better place. I would rather take medical advice from the Faithless researchers than a bible student

Chai see confusion all because you want to accuse God's people!

Who told you there are no scientists among Jehovah's Witnesses?

Well what i meant is faithless Scientists (not all Scientists) because Luke was a physician and also a believer. So learn to be quick in listening and slow to speak! James 1:19

RussellRutherfo:
These are the Gold Mansions Jesus told your 8-men realtors?!!
They look so tiny.
You sure this ain't one of your cottage huts in hell?

So you don't even know what God promised righteous people and you want to debate with JWs!

Well i'll enlighten you, the dwelling places Jesus promised the 144,000 in heaven is not to be built by humans but places where Jesus (Archangel Michael) drove away the former occupants {Revelations 12:7-8} but as for righteous servants of God who will live on earth they will build their own houses and live in it! Isaiah 65:21-23 compare to Matthew 5:5

Surely you don't even know anything about Jehovah's Witnesses!

RussellRutherfo:
What training?!!

80% of Ex-Jws totally stop believing in God due to the lies of the organization when they awake so what training exactly are you talking of?

80% of Jews that turned against Christianity in the first century welcomed anything thinking they want to spite the Christ but Peter told Jesus:

“Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life. 69 We have believed and have come to know that you are the Holy One of God.” John 6:68-69

Likewise today 8.7 millions of our brothers and sisters globally today we are saying to the spiritual Jews ~ Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses:

"We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people" Zechariah 8:23

Here you are arguing over issues having to do with ATHEISTS and MISINFORMED CHURCHGOERS but you can't present any group of fully competent and completely equipped Bible scholars.

Shame on you Mr Apostates. I present to the whole world JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

tctrills:
Baba, you quote an unscientific newspaper report. https://www.who.int/news-room/facts-in-pictures/detail/blood-transfusion
This is from the WHO, not some confused doctor.
Your article says 'Blood transfusion may cause death' which is not a scientific statement.

I'm sorry for you!

Faithless researchers claiming scientists have caused enough damage to lives simply because they don't want to believe (trust) in the Bible.

So if your life depends on what they're telling you it's up to you, as for God's people we only take their medical advices when it doesn't go against God's word. Once it does we will say NO! NO!! NO!!!

sonmvayina:
You stillhave not answered my question..

Which will you pick from the two.

To be in a peaceful group that worshipsan idol

Or be by yourself and obey the commandments and laws of the creator of heaven and earth.

I am waiting.

You'll wait till eternity because what you call idol is benefiting worshipers just as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob promised! Isaiah 2:2-4

So it's evident that you don't understand what Idolatry really means!

MightySparrow:
Greed is a personal thing. Everyone here is not greedy. Anyways, how is your organisation going to appoint Board of Directors on Dangote's business empire?

Below are pictures of our dream homes in Paradise, greedy structures will be demolished!
All what we need are potable houses that is good for couples because each couple will have their own homes and gardens! Isaiah 65:21-23

RussellRutherfo:
You take a child to hospital and want to take the child back home to die if not for the Lagos State government doing the assignment Jehovah made them for. That child would been died by now.
Credit to Lagos State government for doing the right thing.

Poverty is the problem, there are many hospitals that are ready to administer non-blood treatment so your wailing changes nothing. Blood transfusion doesn't guarantee life!

Yankee101:
Lol The others, you say are unenlightened, Elon na chance Pick a side and work with it, don't be all over the map. How can you convince anyone if you come across as an inconsistent person? For us it's clear,The Lord God Almighty created the Heavens and the Earth.

You're responding to Chrystyano!

Well prepared to face a shameless social media beggar that will start accusing you of being wicked for not giving him money!

sonmvayina:
I have asked MaxInDHouse this question before he ignored it. Let me ask you. Which will you choose?1: would you rather be in a peaceful group that worships and idol or
2. Be by yourself and obey and keep the commandments of your creator.

Just present the worshipers of your own God and leave the rest for right thinking persons to do the needful!

MindHacker9000:
The truth is that the guy does not. They say such just to control those that are gullible.

The true God controls His faithful worshipers without using weapons to intimidate them so with this knowledge my own God is in control of over 8.7 millions of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES globally, they have beat their swords into plowshares and vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman again for any reason whatsoever! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So present the people under the control of your own God if your god truly exists!

MindHacker9000:
Your wisdom is based on 4 different made up stories of the resurrection and also on the fact that all of Jesus' disciples could not recognise Him after His resurrection, how can His disciples who have been with Him throughout His ministry not recognise Him after His resurrection. And you're talking about wisdom!
When you are ready for the wisdom of GOD let me know.

My friend, just ask the questions and i'll supply the answers!

Jesus was recognizable because he was born through one of Adam's descendants (Mary) so he will surely pick some of his looks from that woman as a human. But after his death Jesus' human body has been used as the sacrifice for the redemption of obedient mankind {Matthew 20:28} that's why the body with which he resurrected is not recognizable anymore but only his attitude remains! Luke 24:35

He died as a human (recognizable by appearance) but resurrected as a spirit being (unrecognizable materialised body) 1Corinthian 15:42-26

Just calm down my friend, you're no longer chatting with misinformed Churchgoers but one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the Bible as a whole is our book, we are the one and only group ordained to TEACH you what is in that book! John 16:12-13

haddeylium:
Abi oo Brother Maximus
Notably, nobody(Asin, none of them) can offer any alternative religion that teaches the truth. They know that all other churches and religions are false, so where do they go, who do they turn to?

Do you think Pharisees don't know that Jesus' teachings is the one and only way?
Nicodemus has answered that!
But they just want Jehovah to bend to their own standard! Jeremiah 18:6-10

RussellRutherfo:

You mean those bigger yahoo 8-men thieves like Stephen Lett, Anthony Morris, etcetera that are siphoning your money and using it for their real estate business?
Many JW Kids in the West are already waking up from the lies of this organization. I could go on to mention many celebrities like Prince, Michael Jackson who were trained with JW background but ended up doing more for Satan. You see I see no difference between the JW organization and Atheism. The organization breeds her adherents for that position. Most jws who discover the organizational lies and leave the org usually end up that is 80% of them as Atheists and you begin to wonder with all that Jehovah indoctrination from childhood. They mostly head into Atheism.

Please remind me of a better performing group than JWs in training their children to be fully competent and completely equipped to defend their faith!

RussellRutherfo:
Secret murderers. Deny sick Children of life than have these individuals saved through blood transfusion.
.I wonder why the WHO is yet to call the organization out for this evil killings.

We had a situation where the Lagos State government had to save a jw child that would have been allowed to die going by the teaching of this Congregation of Satan a.k.a Jehovah witness.

People who carried their own children to the hospitals for treatment are killers but people that are training their children to kill others are good, shey?
Kuatinu!

AntiChristian:
Yeah, i know even your God is not the same with that of the other Christians. Actually, i feel irritated with obscene words. Can you as a Grand pa teach your female grand daughter Number 3 or 4 as memory verse? "Your Breasts are like two fawns" coming from the Lord! Are you not ashamed sir?
Did they show you the 72 virgin texts?
You follow clerics who do not show you texts of Islam for the actions they preach to you! Stop using your ignorance while you were a Muslim to justify Islam. You were a compound Ignorant Muslim back then! Stop reminding us of your ignorance. Many Christians who converted from Islam too share their ignorance like you.

You amuse me for real.
So there's no backing yet it's globally known that virgins were promised male Muslims.

I am a Christian today and from the Bible i can teach my granddaughter what she needs to expect from a man who will love her till death.
So after reading it she needs to know that her private parts belongs to a man who will cherish her like the poet that composed those verses. She won't have to give out her virginity to any other man but her own husband!

AntiChristian:
Grandpa JW has nothing to say about the dubious resurrection and ascension! All that remains is to attack me. OP no be Muslim na! And i don't know him. Wetin Muslims buy from una?
Address the concoctions from your Bible and stop deflecting by attacking me! No be me start the thread!

Are you Muhammad?
So i'm not attacking you but the fabricated gibberish you're comparing with God's word!

MindHacker9000:
Don't get me wrong. Not beleiving the made up stories in the New Testament does not mean one does not beleive in GOD and the coming Massiah which HE promised in the Old Testament. Only that the made up stories in the New Testament just makes it clear that the Messiah GOD promised has not yet come as the real Messiah will only come ones and there will be world peace forever

How reasonable does that sound to you?

A reformer will just come once to reorientate the whole world without any counseling before then?

My friend, if you're ready for wisdom let's talk because if the Messiah is not coming to turn us into robots but obedient worshipers of the true God then he can never achieve anything once!

For your information, the Messiah is coming to kill all disobedient humans in order to make a way for obedient mankind to enjoy everlasting peace during his Kingdom. So he must first come for a global reorientation of all races which is to be carried out by those who grasp the purpose of his coming {Daniel 12:10} it's after some time that he will have to come back and destroy all disobedient ones! Luke 19:27

I'm with you if you need scriptural backings (from the Old Testament) to prove that the Messiah must come TWICE! Act 17:3

MightySparrow:
It's fine, so do I continue.
Continue in delusion. ........1914, 1975.......soon, Armageddon will wipe all else except JWs, MaxInDHouse will inherit Dangote's business empire.

In Paradise there is no such greed!
Everyone will have equal share so our God is not like yours who infused greed in the head of your Papa!

RussellRutherfo:
Lies like this from the pit of hell should not be listened to. This is why every Christian child out there must be equipped to handle these objections to their faith from an early age.

The Atheist can pollute their children's mind but the Christian can't "pollute" their own child's mind and guide them alright. What nonsense!!!

The world's number one group that's equipping their children with the knowledge of God's word is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES
There's no other. So let the JWs teach your children to become fully competent and completely equipped ministers of God's word in the future. They will not use it as a means of livelihood like those Yahoo big boys claiming pastors rather they'll become responsible adults in the society!

RussellRutherfo:
Like the Jews who are of the Synagogue of Satan but think that they are of God.
Same way with this Congregation of Satan who think that they are of Jehovah.

This is what Jesus said about Satan's agents:

You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie. John 8:44

The world's number one religious group that's preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighbourhood against WARS which is the major killer in human history is Jehovah's Witnesses organization.
So if you say this group belongs to Satan whom Jesus referred to as a MURDERER then you need to check yourself!

RussellRutherfo:
Dey deceive yourself.
You had malaria and you have started acting like you went to the hospital for a major health crisis that required blood transfusion.
Easy with your lies.

We have what it takes to keep away from blood transfusion so that's what we go for any time such cases arises.
Serena Williams is known globally yet she stick to the alternative non-blood treatment so if you think she's dumb why not go talk to the Americans managing the world's number One lawn tennis player?

AntiChristian:
OP is not a Muslim! And no be Islam we come discuss here. And I never even reach Paul side. Paul wey no meet Jesus for real life wey come claim he met Jesus as one bright light!
He come write 13 books of the new testament. This one no be wash?
Abeg comment on the topic and stop diverting!

That's what you always do when faced with the reality. Your Muhammad is not a prophet at all so you can't come here comparing what the hopeless guy fabricated all by himself with a book having 40 different WITNESSES!

AntiChristian:
The question that begs an answer is was Islam meant to favor the rich and not poor?

No! And i can see you brought 72 virgins lie here again!

No wonder you're now including lies in your response.

Shame on JW just as the other Christians who tell lies and use specific happenings to address the general.

You keep trying to divert from the actual points. So unlike you sha!

My friend, it's what two different Gods uttered that we are discussing here. What your God say totally differs from what my God say so you can't expect both Gods to reason the same way.
Yours fell irritated with romantic words while mine (who claims to be the Creator) imput it in His words for a reason, so it's that reason you should try to find out not judging what my God said with from the viewpoint of your own God!

I've been a Muslim ever before you were born and i know what our clerics used to tell us back then regarding virgins awaiting male Muslims in heaven, so if that's no longer what they're telling you now you can update me.

AntiChristian:
How can we verify this info? I'm aware you know the punishment for adultery and fornication in an Islamic state.
Elders no dey tell lies o!
So God gave you erotic verses describing bedroom things and breasts in details?
God is good all the time!

Now i know you love deceiving yourself!

In what country or locality can women dress in that manner and people will not embarrass them if not of your Islamic states?

For your information Islam has nothing to do with morals but a political movement established to conquer the world. Once the Muslims have conquered a territory their sharia only affects the less privileged and other religionists in that society while the rich among them are above the law.
Have you ever heard or seen a child of a rich Muslims been given into marriage underaged?
Their own children will even go for university degrees while the daughters of poor ones are forcefully married.
So whether you accept it or not God is the One who initiated marriage between males and females, and He is the One who knows what can strengthen such relationship.
Romantic poems is good for couples but where only the male is allowed to have multiple partners such will not make any sense after all it's only your men that are promised 72 or 1,000 virgins in heaven, what is there for your faithful females? Nothing!

MindHacker9000:
And many of us grew up beleiving these made up stories. Thank GOD for this Religion section and Youtube that are helping to expose many of these made up stories.

Made up stories that's helping millions to stop thinking about military services or weapons shey?
Thank God that you're thanking God!

MightySparrow:
Many patients may have died, not a statement of fact.Though, this is a digression from ' failed Prophecies'

Your Papa is at Otta so don't kill yourself over another what another group believes.
If Oyedepo is teaching you what is benefitial continue with him!

RussellRutherfo:
Na w for you oh!
I attached a screenshot of WHO document that states the fact that Blood transfusion saves more lives like that of my friend who is awakening from the JW lies so whatever quack doctor you are referring to are obviously the type of charlatans that Governing Body love to quote.
No true medical doctor who went through medical school will utter that crap.
Do you know more than WHO?
Even the Article you shared states clearly that Blood transfusion is okay but not to be given in excess abi you no sabi read English again?!!

Does it guarantee that the patient will live?
The answer is "NO"
And there are lots of alternatives so why must it be a blood transfusion when it's not sure whether the patient will survive it or not?

haddeylium:
I have been in the hospital once this year as one of Jehovah's Witnesses and remain on my stand on blood transfusions.

I'm sstill alive today chatting with you
Medical professionals respected my right to choose non-blood medical options. There are many available!

My point is that people don't die from not accepting blood. Doctors don't guarantee, that if you choose the blood transfusion option you will not die. Ofcourse! Many do take blood transfusion and they die
Regardless of whether someone chooses the blood or bloodless treatment, if they die they die from the injury, or the disease!

How funnier could he be?
Talking about something that's not certain and accusing people over it, whereas look if everyone is a JW weapons and wars will be things we will all be reading in storybooks not what should be devastating the human society anymore.
JWs have successfully erased weapons and wars from the heads of millions but that doesn't sound nice to him, it's blood transfusion that doesn't guarantee anything that's of utmost importance to him.

Thank you Jehovah that i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

RussellRutherfo:
I had discussion with a person just recently and he is alive because of his parents were not Jehovah witness. Imagine, if they were that nice individual would have been long dead. If the reality of that doesn't sink in your evil contaminated mind by the Governing Body then I don't know what to say to you. You would rather do the work of Satan by having that individual destroyed than saved. Very unlike the character of Jehovah.

A doctor confirmed that many have died due to blood transfusion and you are accusing people who choose not to accept blood transfusion as if they are killers when blood transfusion doesn't guarantee anything other than trial and luck, na wah for you o!

RussellRutherfo:
Blood transfusion saves more.

So if you know that it doesn't guarantee life then there's no reason accusing people who chose not to take it!

MindHacker9000:
In that case you can even increase your believe in the 4 different accounts of the resurrection:
In Matthew: Mary Magdalene and the other Mary saw an angel.
In Mark: Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome saw a young man.
In Luke: The women saw 2 men.
In John: [Notice there was no angel or young man. Here it was just Mary Magdalene, Peter and the other disciple]
Mary Magdalene went to the tomb. So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple. Then Simon Peter came along behind him and went straight into the tomb. Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside

Never mind i am enjoying the benefits of faith presently, so it's your problem as you're contemplating on what your brains could grasp while millions are benefitting from faith! Isaiah 48:17-18