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QuinQ:
Do you know the definition of hypocrisy?

Go and question Jesus and his disciples for what they taught!🥱

QuinQ:
Meaning what? What has your post to do with the hypocrisy of saying you oppose a fight but being the first to go grab yiur share of any benefit won through the fight. Why not stay away because it was won through a fight?

At last you can see that your religion is following the thoughts and ideas of men not what God's Son commanded! Matthew 15:8-9
So next time you see me engaging those willing to see the difference between true and false religions abeg keep quiet you don't belong to talks of real faith as it means foolishness to you:

But a physical man does not accept the things of the spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot get to know them, because they are examined spiritually. 1Corinthans 2:14

We obey Christ come what may not just calling him "Lord! Lord!!" Without doing what he taught us as the will of God! Matthew 7:21-23

achorladey:
The same brain will tell Achorladey is only after Jehovah's witnesses and topics related to Jehovah's witnesses. Today it is Jehovah's witnesses and Kumuyi.

Guy you don't believe in any religious system so stop deceiving yourself you are an atheist in disguise!🥱

QuinQ:
Why not have your congregation send evangelists there to start approaching people and let's see what happens to them as nice people. But once warriors secure the place you'll flood it, with pamphlets at every corner! Hypocrites!

I'm talking about the IDENTITY of true religion so if your own religion can't be viewed from the perspective of Jesus or his Apostles stop quoting me jàre.

I'm seriously engaging atheists who are ready to discuss about religion not you who just want to argue blindly!🥱

Explore2xmore:
In the call to fight it is particularly against those who fight him with a warning not to transgress.

Please tell me the difference between what i typed below and yours!

MaxInDHouse:
Muhammad claimed he got a message from his God which says he should not relent in fighting whoever wants to fight him for the message he is spreading.

QuinQ:
Why don't you go to Iran or Afghanistan and openly practice your JW and tell them to be nice that you're a nice guy who wants to obey them. Once warriors bring religious tolerance and security there you'll go there and start distributing pamphlets how you're holler than everyone because you oppose war!

Guy we don't operate like you people so don't think we will be making noise in their streets {Matthew 12:19} instead we approach an individual at a time to reason with them without even telling them what we have in mind. Matthew 10:16

So JWs are in all those countries it's our mode of dressing, preaching and teaching that differs just a Apostle Paul said:

"To the Jews I became as a Jew in order to gain Jews; to those under law I became as under law, though I myself am not under law, in order to gain those under law. To those without law I became as without law, although I am not without law toward God but under law toward Christ, in order to gain those without law. To the weak I became weak, in order to gain the weak. I have become all things to people of all sorts, so that I might by all possible means save some. But I do all things for the sake of the good news, in order to share it with others." 1Corinthans 9:20-23

In fact we dress, greet, sit, stand and do everything like them except entering their place of worship so they can't suspect us in their midst!🙂

achorladey:
Na MaxInDHouse go tell me how to practice and stand in my faith like a baby.

Kumuyi has really won the heart of Churchians throughout Nigeria so that despite the way his followers often look down on others as unbelievers those people still regard his church as their number one denomination so whatever makes you speak against JWs and Kumuyi it simply means you don't worship anywhere!😂

QuinQ:
Never post an AI citation that doesn't include the question you asked.
Doesn't matter what Muhammad said, like in Nigeria, Muslims are bent on converting infidels by any means especially violence.

That is the result of going against what Jesus commanded {Matthew 5:43-44} they faithlessly chose to pick up weapons against their enemies instead of humbly doing what Jesus taught. Matthew 15:8-9

We are Jehovah's Witnesses we don't have issues with Muslims because we are ever ready to accept whatever rules they set that is why we operate in their counties as we strictly follow the wise counsel from the world's most wonderful counselor! Isaiah 9:6

achorladey:
Na your head dey cook Achorladey is an atheist in your lies and manipulations filled brains. I didn't send you message to call me what I didn't call myself. Na by force make I tell you wetin I am not.

You are an atheist jọọ!😂

achorladey:
You are tired of lies and manipulations of dates peddling by your religious organization. Stale method adopted for consolation. Atheist today, apostates tomorrow, scoffers next tomorrow, demons and Satans, ko Jo wa loju. I don hear and it didn't change Achorladey to MaxInDHouse

A real apostate is an atheist both of you don't want to subject yourselves to God's arrangement so you just want to stand on your own but at the same time instead of walking away you are disturbed as faithful and loyal servants of God stood firm for their position in God's assembly!🙂

Jesus knows you guys too well! John 8:45🥱

achorladey:
Na your brains dey peddle cry the moment it hit you that your lies and manipulations no get where to hide.
Your religious organization stated.... 1914 is a date you deny and added more lies and manipulations on it

Just as first century disciples of Christ said Jesus will return in their time so it's time you stop hiding behind anonymous tell everyone you are an atheist!🥱

So in short you don't believe in any of the assembly of worshipers shey?
I told you i will expose your atheistic mindset!🙂

achorladey:
The we is the same mode of operation of your lying and manipulated religious organization when they get caught up with their lies and manipulations. We used to believe, who are the we packing lies and manipulations in the brains of their members. Call them ATHEISTS times without numbers won't change the fact that when an atheist states 1 + 1 = 2 you cannot tell them they are WRONG. Only your lying and manipulated brains will say they are wrong to look good.

QuinQ:
Not true. Muslims were attacking people all over and forcing people to choose Islam or death. They had a stated aim of converting all of Europe. Only counter-attack checked them,

I was a Muslim so i'm telling you that Muhammad claimed he got a message from his God which says he should not relent in fighting whoever wants to fight him for the message he is spreading.

So it was the crusaders that has been fighting and killing people claiming they are doing it for Jesus centuries before the birth of Muhammad!

See what AI says below on the topic.😟

Commentators on this thread are here either to speak for Kumuyi or against him though most comment without the knowledge of God's word but atheists disguising are here to condemn both Kumuyi and whoever is commenting their aim is to rubbish all religions.

achorladey:
We are the WE. This is my problem with religious leaders. Who are the we? It is a way of shifting blame when what they proclaimed individually no longer holds.

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QuinQ:
Christian history did not end with the Apostles. Muslims declared they were out to convert the whole of Europe. Here's an example you'll better understand - Muslim fanatics in Nigeria have declared that their aim is to deep the Koran into the Atlantic. Please tell me how you intend to stop them from doing just that.

It was after the death of first century Apostles that the Antichrist appeared in the name of Christians and doing the exact opposite of what Jesus commanded his disciples! 1John 2:18

They are the ones who goes about fighting and killing people before the Muslims took over from them.
If those Antichrists didn't attack Muhammad claiming they were doing it for Christ Muhammad won't start fighting back.

It seems you trust the AI so you can ask which religion first started fighting for God between Muslims and Christians?

achorladey:
And your lying and manipulation ways didn't tell you period has to do with the start and end of a thing which have to do with DATE DATE DATE DATE DATE DATE

That's why your religious organisation were doing mental gymnastics with the fall of Jerusalem and the fall of babylon using the 607 B. C. E to arrive at 1914 A. D. That's a period which involves DATES the lying and manipulation of the scriptures by your religious organisation used to call themselves Jehovah's organisation

Just as period also has to do with the lifespan of apostle John whom first century disciples believed will not die before the end of the world! John 21:21-23🙂

achorladey:
Quote hundred scriptures now it won't cover up the lies and manipulations of your religious organisation about dates that has nothing to do with the bible

Cry me a river oh you faithless one.

Your faithlessness won't stop true servants of God from doing the needful!🙂

achorladey:
After all the lies and manipulations of the scriptures, my words and your publications and after all your year is not part of dates, you can still comeback to type holy spirit supporting your fraudulent dates called God's date

Ọmọ it's not a DATE but PERIOD!😂

achorladey:
Is that 1914 part of date or just a number for betting or gambling

Just as John's lifespan marks the end of Christ's direct revelation of end time prophecies to his disciples 1914 also marks the end of Satan's stay in heaven.

So both has remarkable events though God's people did not get things clear until much later! 1Corinthans 13:9-10 🙂

achorladey:
Where did you get 1914 A. D

God's holy spirit directed us to the scriptures that pointed to that year as a remarkable year in human history and of course that was first time the whole world went to war. World War1

It was much later that we realized that it was the time Jesus was enthroned in heaven as King of God's Kingdom and that was the year he drove Satan and all his demons out of heaven and the world felt their presence! Revelation 12:7-12 🙂

achorladey:
To lost inisde your conversation no dey tey
Na your lies and manipulations filled religious organisation dey tells us fraudulent dates like 1874, 1878,1914, 1925 1975.
Dates don't exist in the Bible that's why it is easy to write he is coming at a time you don't expect it to be.
The point of discussion is not about REBELLION but about a religious organisation peddling fraudulent date about what God wanted to do. I don't force anyone to care or judge matters the way I do. My point has to do with exposing the fraudulent foundation of a religious organisation built on peddling false dates about God's words. Show us the YYYYMMDD in their teachings.

Now is the time to start lying after being caught unaware!😂

For your information true disciples of Christ never made that mistake again after apostle John's gospel. So calm your nerves Jehovah's Witnesses never mentioned such again after 1914 just as first century disciples never repeated the same mistake!🙂

achorladey:
I know Year is not part of date

Back then there are DATES mentioned:

In the second year of King Da·riʹus, in the sixth month, on the first day of the month. Haggai 1:1

So when a period is mentioned without such specific date know that God's holy spirit is involved so that God's people will be on the same page throughout all generations.

Jehovah's Witnesses never mentioned a specific date just as Jesus' first century disciples never mentioned a specific date but they had wrong expectations that Jesus will return during apostle John's lifetime! John 21:21-23🙂

achorladey:
Loooooool
Where is the date in C. E about the lifespan of apostle John as written by apostle John you referenced

Where is the date in 360 days in a year?

You can now see that you have no point but rebellion is worrying you and you feel everyone should judge matters the way you do.

If first century disciples of Christ taught their families and friends that Jesus will return in the first century (before John dies) surely many who later saw John died without Jesus coming will leave the faith just as you did! 🙂

achorladey:
Lies and manipulations as usual the evidence shows clearly your religious organisation are peddling fraudulent dates as the end of the world and return of Jesus Christ. They ascribe those dates to the bible and God and all are fraudulent

From year to dates.

I can understand your fears!🙂

QuinQ:
But the 39 books are full of wars and God directly participated in them.
Also, it is not true Christians did not kill. Have you forgotten the Crusades? Muslims were out to convert the whole Europe by force and were well on their way towards doing it!

I'm talking about CHRISTIANITY in the Bible not what churches of Christendom later started doing after the death of Apostles:

“The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field. While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left. When the stalk sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds also appeared. So the slaves of the master of the house came and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it have weeds?’ Matthew 13:24-27

When the Apostles are sleeping in death that is when Satan's agents started claiming Christian and going to kill people in the name of Christianity!🙂

achorladey:
I am not about correcting dates here or not.

So know today that God's people have always had wrong expectations about the end of the world but they never mentioned a specific date!🙂

achorladey:
Is year 1914 among date or just a number in the scheme of things as it concerns Jehovah's witnesses.

Is apostle John's lifespan a period that concerns all first century disciples YES or NO?🙂

achorladey:
When a taught doctrine claimed to be from God is proven false, it becomes a human mistake rather than divine truth.

Jesus said something while he was still with his disciples around 33.c.e

That is what they were TEACHING their families and friends not until 98.c.e when apostle John corrected that wrong expectations in his own gospel account.

So do you believe that all apostles that died before that correction are true disciples of Christ or false?🙂

QuinQ:
Not true. There was no NT. Things were written down much later, so were St. Paul's letters

What you are calling NT was the 27 books written by Jesus' disciples the 39 books of Hebrew-Aramaic scriptures were in use and that is what Judaists need to be convinced that Jesus is the Christ not what his own followers wrote nah!😟

achorladey:
The bible did not have a chronology and no prophet or apostles every used dates as...

Of course they do!

You brought a publication that says 1914 which means within that year Jesus' disciples in the first century told all their families and friends that apostle John will not die before the world ends! John 21:21-23

So if you were alive as a youth back then and actually saw apostle John die and buried will you still believe they are the one and only true religion?🙂

Ọmọ it's a specific date that was never mentioned by worshipers of the true God but as for periods they did mentioned it so you should condemn the first century disciples of Christ for telling everyone that the world will end before apostle John dies!🙂

QuinQ:
The leadership of a group is not God, neither is the Bible. The early Christians didn't have NT yet they were the most ardent Christians.
All societies have God. But all societies that survived also had wars. Did you think of that?

The first century disciples were using the scriptures the only issue they had back then is how to convince Judaists that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah so it's after they had formed churches in the name of Christ that they began writing about him and how they started Christianity which you and i are reading today. So God is their King through the use of SCRIPTURES! 2Timothy 3:15-17

Wars happens due to disagreements but Jesus commanded us not to be part of the world {John 17:14-16} so when world rulers are sending people to go and kill people we tell them that our own Master Lord and King commanded us not to raise weapons for settling issues! Matthew 26:52

That is why you can only read about the killing of Christians but never find where the Bible says Christians also kill their enemies! Matthew 5:43-44; Luke 6:35

If we are to join in world conflicts how are we going to save our brothers in Christ that Jesus commanded us to love just as he loves us? John 13:34-35

Now is the time to know what religion supposed to achieve in human society!🙂

So what did God's word says about His worshipers in the last days?

The true religion must gather humble people from all the nations under one umbrella since our Creator is the God of all race. Isaiah 2:2

The true religion must educate all these people so that they all have one central unit of control over dos and donts! Isaiah 2:3

After this the true religion must help all adherents throughout the world to settle disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, eradicate making, buying, selling and using of weapons since they all believe/ agree/ trust in eternal judgement of their invisible supreme being and finally they will vow never to raise weapons against anyone be it friends or foe! Isaiah 2:4

By so doing there must be LOVE among them {John 13:34-35} so no member will be a beggar throughout the world {Psalms 23:1; 37:25} their widows and orphans will not be loitering around for food {James 1:27} and the world will be aware that this religion is unique! Matthew 5:14-16

But since they don't use weapons to settle matters among them how are they going to deal with unrepentant wrongdoers?

To be continued....