₦airaland Forum

Tilewizy:
At the end of time, everyone one would come to the knowledge of truth.

If you're sure of this then you shouldn't have jumped into the thread in the first place!🙂

TheStoriesOfMan:
Is that the question you want to ask me?
Use ChatGPT.
Goodnight.

So you only feel irritated when believers in Christ are discussing you don't have anything tangible to say.🙂

TheStoriesOfMan:
Any questions?

MaxInDHouse:
So apart from saying my Bible blasphemed can your shrine tell us why the world is full of evil?🤔

Please Sir i need an answer!😟

TheStoriesOfMan:
Yes they talk, just as your bibles talk too!

So apart from saying my Bible blasphemed can your shrine tell us why the world is full of evil?🤔

Janosky:
Oga, do you really have proof for your claims?
Pls , by all means present it.
Everyone should see it , pls.

Just as their Daddy G.O drank tea with their God nah!🙂

TheStoriesOfMan:
Okayyyyyy. Your Bible answered the question, not you?
*Claps*
Fantastic! Never knew a bible could talk🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Never knew your shrines do talk too!🤔

TheStoriesOfMan:
Yes it is from it. Any problems with it? Abi your god dey vex?

TheStoriesOfMan:
Answer the question yourself, since you sabi front and back of bible pass the colonizers. You be JW boy, shey? You know bible pass me na, answer it like as if you want to give me bible study. I'm waiting.

I said Satan is the God of this world {2Corinthians 4:4} but you said that is blasphemy so i asked you where you got that word BLASPHEMY from and you said it's from your African shrines.

That is why i asked you to tell me why the world is full of evil because my own Bible answered the question that Satan is the God controlling the world {1John 5:19} but since your shrine says my Bible is wrong then you should be able to tell me why the world is full of evil.

Please tell me Sir!🙂

kayjordan:
You probably missed my point - I concluded that God appreciates nature and uses it to draw the line between good and bad. It could be correct that God knows better than science - we can't prove that - only your imagination can.

Nature of course taught us that there's nothing that doesn't have a beginning and a cause but then nature doesn't teach us good or bad.
God told us a lot before people gradually found out e.g. the shape of our planet home, gravitational force, water circle just to mention a few.

kayjordan:
Religion indeed makes me doubt God because all religions don't speak one language. Science has universal knowledge that everyone accepts. It's taught in schools and it has solved more problems than religion have ever solved.

All religions can't speak the same language because only one religion is true while the rest are false but when talking about language people globally practicing the only true religion speaks one language!

kayjordan:
How is God reconciling us with nature? People do that themselves.

A diligent study of the Bible shows that that things we see around supports our existence while building and creating things we want is making the planet uninhabitable.

You don't understand nature i can see that false religions has made you feel so bad about God and you want to turn to science but my friend the Bible knows much more about science than all your teachers.

Meanwhile God is not against nature as you erroneously concluded rather God is teaching us how to reconcile with nature!

kayjordan:
Look at your world like a crate of eggs - if 15 eggs are spoilt, the other 15 eggs will spoil eventually. You are living in an illusion of a perfect world - and you're not accepting the "fact" that you live in "Sin City". In this life, whether you like it or not, you will compete for resources with "what you have" and "where you are". I'm bringing to your notice a world that doesn't care, and I'm reminding you why you must continue to fight in this world regardless of your limited beliefs or outstanding beliefs.
If the expectation of the world is PERFECTION then why does everyone have a purpose? What's everyone here to solve in a "Perfect World"? Why do we have Police men, Pastors and Lawyers? No one is disputing "doing right" but acknowledge "Wrong" as well. This doesn't make you less reasonable, but a man with a spare tire (Plan B) if you want to survive.

Blame Jesus whose teachings is difficult for whoever refuses to see him as the best teacher. If you want to understand our teachings it's not just reading online you must be in our gathering to learn the practical application just as only those close to Jesus can explain his teachings because they always see him live by his teachings!🙂

tctrills:
The summary of all you wrote is, you post online to confuse people hoping it would lead them to you offline.
What a strategy

tctrills:
We don't tell them that unless they come to church.

This is a lie because all churches do tell people to come and worship with them because their church is BIBLE BELIEVING whereas all churches claiming Christians use the Bible.

So stop deceiving yourself it's the same thing everywhere as long as you are not a member of a religion you can't understand what is being taught from afar:

So the disciples came and said to him: “Why do you speak to them by the use of illustrations?” In reply he said: “To you it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the Kingdom of the heavens, but to them it is not granted. For whoever has, more will be given him, and he will be made to abound; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. That is why I speak to them by the use of illustrations; for looking, they look in vain, and hearing, they hear in vain, nor do they get the sense of it. And the prophecy of Isaiah is being fulfilled in their case. It says: ‘You will indeed hear but by no means get the sense of it, and you will indeed look but by no means see. For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes, so that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back and I heal them." Matthew 13:10-15

It's only those who comes back to Jesus that can understand the deep meaning of his message not all that listened to him. So it's still the same process!🙂

kayjordan:
That's exactly what I mentioned earlier in my comment - "it is when you are a prey in the wild, that you feel the attack is bad" - but when not attacked but others are attacked instead, it's considered normal.

So you consider yourself an animal not capable of reasoning or you just want to kill your conscience?

Because you don't want what is evil for yourself but feels it's normal for others.


Well right thinking humans wants what is good for everyone!🙂

Do Muslims read the Bible?
Do they quote it?

So how come they always misquote the Bible against the Bible?

Ọmọ our publications are known but whoever wants to understand how we apply what is written must attend our meetings that's why Paul said whoever doesn't attend our meetings is loosing out! Hebrews 10:24-25

What do you think is wrong if someone can't just read the scriptures and continue as a believers without attending meetings with Christians?🙂

tctrills:
You are the one dribbling me. You claim that the teachings offline are different from the ones I am reading online. And, I know it is something you guys are capable of doing.
Person wey no fear Una no fit fear anything

Continue dribbling yourself!😂

tctrills:
You mean you teach 2 doctrines, the online and offline? So you represent the offline fraction on nairaland.

Funny Churchians!

No wonder you people can't preach or teach adequately in your neighborhood like Jehovah's Witnesses do.

How can you quote the Bible to say God is the one programing evildoers yet you want to tell the programmed evildoer to change what God has predestined?😂

Mercy that all those who has been predestined to be can't change shey?😂

Nelson21:
Little child go and ask God for mercy.

Reading online defer from attending our meetings to know the practical application of what is in our publication so if you're not with us you can't understand what we teach in our midst!🙂

tctrills:
Are you saying that I made up the quotes from JW because I didn't.
The internet has everything, nothing to hide.

Continue deceiving yourself joh!😂

tctrills:
Yes, the JW did not say God predestined anyone to be destroyed but they teach clearly that in John 6.70, Jesus Christ was referring to Judas.
You on the other hand do not agree with the mainstream JW belief so I guess you are in the other faction

When you've chosen to put the blame on God due to lack of wisdom how do you expect me to start arguing aimlessly with you?😂

Nelson21:
You cannot debate the scriptures I am giving you. Thank God you are learning.

God's fault!😂

Nelson21:
Lol, Let me give you another scripture so that you will know God has predestined you to believe lies.
Proverbs 16:4
“The LORD has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble.”
I have given you three scripture now, but you will never believe truth because you have been predestined to accept lies.

So when a thief comes to rob you and kill members of your family don't blame anyone rather blame God who PREDESTINED everything!😂

Nelson21:
Good! Atleast you have learned something new today. Predestination is real and you know what God has predestined you for.

That's predestination nah so it's God's fault not mine since i can't change it!😂

Nelson21:
Thats fine. That means you are a vessel prepared for destruction. No wonder you prefer lies than truth.

Nelson21:
Romans 9:21 (KJV)
“Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?''
Please try to look for a good church to attend not one that teach you lies.

What if God predestined me to be where i am?😂

You are wrong because no JW will tell you that God predestined anyone to be destroyed Jesus knew one of his closest confidants will betray him that's what the scriptures say. John wrote what you are quoting 66 years after Jesus and JWs said Jesus could read hearts so by the time Judas has fully developed that bad trait Jesus has seen it not that he knew before choosing him.

tctrills:
You are right, I don't know your deep things but I know contrary beliefs and from what I see, you and your organisation have very contrary beliefs on the matter. Is that now accepted?

kayjordan:
Yes, that's what God wants in a secular society but not what a secular society wants.

So if you chose what is good there can't be any reasonable individual who will choose the opposite definitely majority of humans are evil for preferring what is evil. But when it will affect them they will outrightly reject it:

kayjordan:
I would prefer being born by a real couple.
If it happened to my only child, I'd fight the system till my son and I finally win.

🙂

TheStoriesOfMan:
Yes it is from it. Any problems with it? Abi your god dey vex?

So how come evil is everywhere àbí it's the will of your own God?

So God predestined him for destruction shey?

Please try to reason after reading what you see in the Bible!

Nelson21:
Romans 9: 17-18
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Paul says God raised Pharaoh up for a specific divine purpose and hardened him. That is predestination.

If you are not a JW you can't know what we believe regarding deep spiritual things that's what is paining exjws they are no longer part of the organization yet they want to know what happens in the organization.😂

tctrills:
Or are there now 2 JW factions?
I used to know that JW kicks out members who disagree with it's teachings. But the group is changing so fast these days, it's hard to tell what they believe anymore.

Funny atheist!🙂

tctrills:
So commenting on John 6.70, the JW people say that as of the time Christ made that statement, He knew Judas will betray Him.
So, I guess you no longer represent JW.
That's ok by me, You don't need to represent an organisation to express your beliefs

YES!
Maintained!🙂

tctrills:
So you maintain that Jesus Christ was not speaking specifically about Judas in John 6.70?

You are just a joke!😂

No reference work from JWs said Jesus was specifically talking about Judas all we know according to the scriptures is that Jesus believe what the scriptures foretold so he kept watching each of his Apostles to know which one exactly will become Satan's tool.

By the time Jesus knew Judas is the one the man has been developing a materialistic mindset which wasn't what he was before Jesus chose him!🙂

tctrills:
Wrong about what my boy.
I ask again, do you still insist that Jesus Christ was not referring to Judas in John 6.79 or do you now agree with the JW group?

Now you know you are wrong!🙂

tctrills:
This was me yesterday still consistent with my points today on John 6.70