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DeepSight:
All this for your vainglory and validation. Enjoy.

Real men don't swallow their own words in fact they will stand for it come what may.
So just stay away because your type do not worth reputable quotes!🥱

realsportclub7:
You sound so funny and unbelievable. So you were there when he was reading awake. You also committing an unforgivable blunder. The video posted here can’t be older than 10 years. So is it the awake he read that made him make this video?

Guy how old are you?

I'm talking about late 1970s/early 1980s when he newly started his church not when he has become an old man, that time Williams was a young vibrant man!

MrPresident1:
If you sin wilfully and wickedly, you are not escaping your punishment.
Becoming a 'born again' after inflicting so much damage on the world, in the mistaken belief that all of your sins are cast instea. Kóyou start going to xhirc

BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS are chosen by God alone even Jesus doesn't have the power to make anyone a born again {Matthew 20:20-23} because it's only his father who determines those to become part of His heavenly spirit sons. Luke 20:34-36
According to the scriptures such ones has been watched from heaven as pure in heart not dubious individuals before they can become part of those going to heaven (God's holy mountain) where they will rule with Christ! Psalms 24:3-4

So if anyone thinks he will become born again after committing blunders it's still boils down to what Jesus said:

They don't know what they are doing! Luke 23:34

nairalanda1:
I think a lot of organisations, both secular and religious, harbored peods.

He is ashamed of his religion because all his fellow Muslims are here arguing against the Bible and Christian faith and they are somehow seeing something to say but against Jehovah's Witnesses Islam has nothing tangible to say so whenever he see a JW he brings up the false stories Western unbelievers are using against us.

Please if it's true how come such reports are not coming from any other place apart from Western nations?

Well the answer is simple because using a cane or rod to discipline your own child in Western nations is taken as child abuse!🙂

DeepSight:
I am not asking him to swallow his words. He can abbreviate my moniker to spare me your vainglorious spam, thaz all.

A reputable man will never ever swallow his own words or obey you to come and abbreviate what he types because you made the demand.🥱

DeepSight:
Pls can you edit my name out of this post. Consider it a favour pls. Maxindhouse keeps reposting a long list of old quotes praising him and its spam to me. You can abbreviate the name if you dont mind so i dont see the spam. Thx

So you think it's everyone that will not be proud of what they said like you shey?

Well let me see if he is a true Muslim because a real Muslim will never ever swallow his own words not even on the case of someone that has no repute!🥱

Arostar2023:
You are still deflecting and have refused to answer my question. Preaching about the end of the world and give a certain date for the end of the world are not the same thing. Have the JW made predictions that failed to come to pass in the past? Have JW changed some of their teachings over the years? Yes or No?

There is no need asking me just quote a publication of Jehovah's Witnesses in which a specific date was written for the end of the world.

I'm sure you now understand that both John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and his disciples all preached about the end of the world but they never mentioned any specific date.

For your information each time Jesus or his disciples preached it people attached that message to the time it's delivered claiming the world will end at the time John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth or his disciples said it but that is not the case.

So if you don't understand something try to ask questions.

Jehovah's Witnesses never attached any specific date to world's end it's their zealousness that people often attach to their message as if they set a date.

For instance even Jesus' first century disciples were confused as to the end of the world because Jesus preached it with zeal so they asked him:

“Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?" Act 1:6

So true worshipers of God has always been in EXPECTATION of the end of this wicked system of things {Habakkuk 2:3} but they never mentioned any specific date!

Arostar2023:
Aside my grandmother, who was a lovely and kind soul, I am yet to see a kindhearted JW person.

Go and convince all these people otherwise!🥱

freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.

BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

Oye0404:
well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..

XXLDICK:
They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination.
They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite.
Cons:
They do not recite the national anthem.
They do not participate in elections.
They do not accept blood transfusion.

boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.

Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

HardMirror:
unfortunately, JW are the best Christians if we will be honest.

nairalanda1:
JW said that the world would end in 1914, when it did not happen, they changed tactics...lol.

Do you have any publication of Jehovah's Witnesses where this is written explicitly?

Note that i was a Muslim and it's this lies that led me to investigate the matter before i later discovered that it's all lies just discourage people from listening to the truth preached by JWs!🙂

Arostar2023:
I am not defending the Deeper Life or anything close to that, I am pointing out your hypocrisy.

So if you don't believe in any religion you can't understand what we are here discussing.

John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and his disciples all preached about the end of the world. Matthew 3:2; 4:17; 10:7

So if you don't believe them there is no reason wasting my precious time with you!🙂

MrEar:
Are you serious? Please keep him company. He is really bored. People are no longer giving him attention. Somebody that blocked me now wants to resume talking to me. Abeg I dont have time to babysit kids.

Here is your friend:

DoWhatThouWilt:
But to be frank and honest... Christians of today don't know anything about their God, Their saviour Christ Jesus and their scripture the Bible.

So i know why he is obsessed with me as i'm the only person and my religion is the only Christian group that his Islam can't stand!🙂

Arostar2023:
Even you too de make mouth? Jehovah witnesses that have done multiple dogmas review or summersaults over the years. Because of una teaching one of my uncle’s sold off some of my grandpa’s belongings…because you guys preached and taught that the world was coming to an end at one certain date.

Continue deceiving yourself.

So JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are known for selling their properties because of a prophecy or you just want to comment?

Ọmọ everybody knew Kumuyi told his people to trash their TVs but how many people can testify to this your own story?🥱

MrEar:
Is like you are bored.
Let me call somebody to come and play with you. DoWhatThouWilt , please come o, your friend is bored. I dont have time to babysit

Your Muslim friend who keeps condemning your religion shey?

Ọmọ you need to stop deceiving yourself!🙂

MrEar:
Nobody wants to join Russell's club anymore.

So they won't worship God again shey?🙂

You can't mention any church that is reputable and you expect sincere and honest hearted individuals not to look critically into the one you are blackmailing?

See the queue of people getting baptized as Jehovah's Witnesses, each prepared to go out preaching and teaching what they knew not just bench warmers who will later start hiding the name of their church on Nairaland

Now i know you are just kidding!🥱

MrEar:
Another thread of mine just hit front page. Let me go and read their funny comments.Bye!

At least you can see that my presence on Nairaland has been fruitful!🙂

MrEar:
So far so good, your unpaid and unwanted spokesperson work here on nairaland hasn't really yielded any positive results.

Well you are wrong!🥱

DoctorAyukebot:
You know your scriptures

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

IykeSent:
This is a deep and insightful explanation of Hebrews 1:5, showing how Jesus is uniquely God's Son not just another angel. I especially liked the connection to the temple and the idea of spiritual sonship through being “born again.God bless you for this

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same Christian doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

Kingsempires:
wow I love this your statement 🙂🙏

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

shinaola21:
Perfectly said bro 💯

JimRohn:
Do you really consider DeepSight to be on the same intellectual level as MaxInDHouse or some of the other individuals I engage with here?

Because frankly, MaxInDHouse is among the most intelligent contributors on Nairaland. In contrast, DeepSight does not even qualify for consideration when I rate people based on intellect.

That is precisely why I refuse to bring myself down to his level — instead, I choose to engage with those whose reasoning and arguments are worth my time.

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

RavinWolf:
I never saw a better response. Thank you. 100% correct!

Roycemadeit:
Yes, you have silenced me, with facts, of course. You can define knowingness; now try defining belief and faith, and show me how they connect to reality...

LordReed:
Yeah I guess it is clear that you are willing to believe without evidence while I am not. There is no evidence of creation, garden of Eden, global flood, tower of Babel, etc. yet you believe no wonder you can believe a breast grew back with no evidence.

No normal human should believe when there is no evidence and that is my take from childhood until i started seeing things from another perspective!

If someone keeps making promises and always fulfilling it surely doubting what such a person later promise newly after would make no practical sense when you've seen him fulfilled all his past promises.

The same applies to what the Bible says about God in the past. If the book says this person created all things out of nothing while i have no evidence what about all His promises that has come true in my own eyes?
Such promises that can never ever happen as a coincidence!😟

Well that is why i believe what is written in that book as in all that is written in it!🙂

LordIsaac:
Pray for grace to listen and learn basic comprehension!

You guys just love deceiving yourselves!

Someone publicly declared he committed a blunder and you are here claiming comprehension.

For your information Kumuyi always read our AWAKE magazines back then and that year an issue was released that warned Jehovah's Witnesses globally to be careful of what we watch on television. Kumuyi dìd not filter the message he just gave his followers the message so that by time JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES start acting on that message it will be as if he is ahead in the spirit but we understood the message that it's not the TV that's evil rather it's some programs we need to avoid.

For instance you can't go out in a day without seeing indecent dressing does that mean you won't go out again?

NO!

Does that mean you must go blind so as not to see?

NO!

So Kumuyi goofed big time that is what he is now trying to correct today mind you he now welcome female preachers to mount his pulpit with earrings and makeup so open your eyes baba done dey confess!

The man must do everything within his capability to make peace with his Eve but if she deliberately refuses him sex then the matter should be taken to the congregation elders because it means she is about to deny Christ who said:

"What God has yoked together, let no man put apart.” Matthew 19:6

She is deliberately SEPARATING WHAT GOD has joined together and so she is denying Jesus therefore the husband has every right to take any action against her because according to Jesus she is now worse than unbelievers for ignoring what God's son commanded! Matthew 18:15-17

OK. So you actually blocked me so you won't see my comment again shey?

Well it's better like that at least you won't have any reason quoting me again!

Bye!🙂

reubenobi:
Was Timothy an Israelite before he was giving gift by the laying of hands of the presbytery.

Timothy that was seriously sick and was advised to get MEDICINE? 1Timothy 5:23

Continue deceiving yourself jọọ!🥱

enemyofprogress:
“That's why I laughed when I heard that one joke said I was faking miracles. There's no need to fake miracles. Some of the miracles God has been performing in our midst, they're difficult to believe.

The truth is false prophets are in many places but they focus on what is peculiar to their victims as baits.

For instance pastors in Western nations won't tell their followers to come for some deception in the name of miracles because no one needs that over there what they need is assurance that they will not end up in hellfire that is if the individual is still in fear of such fairytales but here in Africa where there is hardship our people are told to bring the little they have so the pastor can use it to take care of his own family and few stipends he will use to hire actors for fake miracles.

Even in Nigeria here if you go to the VGC you won't see banner of any church talking about poverty but go to Ajegunle, Okokomaiko, Abule ẹgba, Agege, Ayọbọ, Òjòdú and other slums you will see banners of breakthrough and so on.

Miracles do happen for sure but God has never given anyone outside Israel the privilege to perform miracles before and after Jesus!🙂

reubenobi:
you cannot see the fine fruit when your heart is dull of understanding. I just pray you will be set free from this stronghold of delusion you are in.

You're just here to argue blindly why not quote God's word to support your premises if truly you understand it?

I told you God never gave anyone who is not an Israelite in Bible times the privilege to perform miracles you can't prove me wrong.

I told you after Jesus such gifts stopped even among first century Christians after the destruction of Jerusalem you can't prove me wrong.

I told you the reason why it's so you can't prove me wrong but just arguing because of those deceivers telling you lies. When they are sick they will use your money to fly abroad for treatment but when you are sick they will tell you to come for miracles and gather actors to make you feel there is power to do so.

Well i never came here for aimless arguments i have proved my point but if anyone as in ANYONE wants to prove me wrong the Bible is there and you can also mention the name of your church where real miracles happens in the hand of your PASTOR!🙂

reubenobi:
I just can't stop laughing at your ignorance. You really lack knowledge about the office of Christ.

Please are you talking about the office that has produced no fine fruit among you people? Matthew 7:16-18

Well knowing the office of the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} should help to teach you how peace supposed to reign among all his disciples globally! Act 1:8

reubenobi:
So, your problem now is finding the church that is performing miracles, But not finding the pathway of the truth.

I'm 100% sure that there is none after the destruction of Jerusalem in the first century God never gave anyone power to perform miracles again because the people who supposed to benefit from it has been dispersed from that land.

You people aren't ready to STUDY God's word instead it's signs and wonders that's pushing you from one deceiver to another. Matthew 16:4

reubenobi:
you claim we are not Israelite. Tell me, How did Abraham got his righteousness, through believing or how? Was it not through same believing we became partakers of same root and blessings as well. Continue with your blindness.

If you're not interested in the truth i am not forcing it on you that's why i only quoted the OP not you.
So if you can't mention the church that is performing real miracles and not just actors it's better not to engage me Sir!🙂

bixton:
Very interesting write up...
So on what statement and command from the Holy Bible do your kind go about professing the gospel of Christ Jesus?

Peacemakers!
Jesus said:

“Happy are the peacemakers, since they will be called sons of God." Matthew 5:9

Jesus is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} so his true Witnesses are given power to make peace reign {Act 1:8} among all the people welcoming the Good News of God's Kingdom! Isaiah 2:4

We don't expect anyone to perform any sign before we believe that there are supernatural powers such exists before foreign religions came to Africa so only a liar will deny the involvement of spirit beings in the affairs of men but when it comes to the true religion we focus on the fruitage it supposed to produce in the gathering of those having the spirit of the true God! Galatians 5:22-23

We are not deceived by signs that's of no good fruit! Matthew 7:21-23🙂

ocnovakmichael:
Are you really serious with this submission? God wrought signs and wonders through the hands of Cyrus who was not an Israelite. Even today God still works signs and wonders through the hands of men.

Please quote one miracle that Cyrus performed!😟

I gave you a homework that supposed to open your eyes but you shy away from it!🥱

Any worship center can be called church after all worshipers only need to come and donate money they are not obligated to do anything extra let them become real disciples of Christ and see how they can cope with indecent outfits.
A Christian must be a member of a team of preachers and teachers in the church who goes from house to house and door to door in order to declared the good news of God's Kingdom.
But since that has been removed from the so called churches of Christendom even a greedy politician embezzling public funds and using it to pay his sex mates could also claim he is a BORN AGAIN Christian!🥱

bixton:
(1) Please point me to the Scripture where it's written such power is restricted to the Israelites?

God promised only ISRAELITES that He will use their people in special ways {Exodus 19:5} and throughout Bible times there was no single person used to perform miracles except Israelites in fact when a woman (none Israelite) came to tap from that blessing Jesus emphatically told her that on that note he is sent only to Israelites {Matthew 15:24} but because she humbly begged Jesus for help he cured her child.
So after then the only people granted such miraculous healing are Jews who are from the same place as Jesus.
But you can prove me wrong by mentioning one person who is not an Israelite but used to perform a miracle among first century Christians.

bixton:
(2) Those who are not Israelites by natural birth who exhibit such power in recent times, please where did they get the power from !!!!!!!
The likes of Pa Adeboye, Pa Kumuyi, Pa Oyedepo, the Late Bishop Ben Idahosa, Late Evang.Dr Umah Okpai, Late Apostle Numbere..........etc, etc....

If you think these guys are performing REAL miracles then i can't help you even blind and deaf people in our society know that they are using actors to deceive gullible people!🥱

What message did they bring for her?

We do preach and teach successfully in places where false religions claiming Christians haven't reached and those living there are always accommodating because our message makes them feel loved but these Churchians and their HELLFIRE fairytales are the major reason why most people don't want to listen to anyone in the name of Christ!😟

Karleb:
This is similar to what a certain Roman emperor did. It eventually led to the compilation of the bible. Athiests can argue all they want, Religion has been around for thousands of years and will still be whether you believe or not. Best you can do is use your social, political and financial influence to reshape what religion will be.

I often laugh when someone claims he is an atheist because i'm 100% sure that such a person doesn't know what he's doing!

Jesus said:

“Happy are the PEACEMAKERS", since they will be called sons of God." Matthew 5:9

As one of the Witnesses of God it's my pleasure to reason with anyone who publicly declared himself an atheist because i know he or she is QUARRELLING with my God for so many reasons.

And of course the first and foremost reason why these people are claiming ATHEISTS is the activities of FALSE RELIGIONS! Revelation 17:5 🙂