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DoWhatThouWilt:
I know the dirty secrets of watchtower

Secret that is only reported in Western nations that your own religion (Islam) called LIARS shey?
What about Jehovah's Witnesses in Arab countries, African countries, Asian countries and the middle east?🙂

Lies won't save your face o your religion is false so you are fighting really dirty to tannish the image of the one true religion.

If it's the churches of Christendom you will start talking about what they can't deny in Nigeria where you live but when it's about Jehovah's Witnesses you become a friend of western nations that are your religion's worst enemies!🙂

DoWhatThouWilt:
It better not be this organization you are talking about.
159 abuse. This wan worse pass Catholics

Why did you dodge the questions nah?🙂

So you have nothing tangible to say than propagating lies spread by Satan and his agents shey?

Just imagine a Muslim whose religion is globally known for child marriage wants to accuse people who are highly respected in all human societies.

Perhaps you don't know that ordinarily disciplining a child with cane is termed child abuse in western nations. Why are such reports not found in African countries where we use koboko for disobedient children?

Guy this false stories have expired jọọ!🙂

DoWhatThouWilt:
I hope it is not the religion mentioned in the news article below you are talking about. Let me put the picture so that people can read it.

“Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. Rejoice and be overjoyed, since your reward is great in the heavens, for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you." Matthew 5:11-12

Maintain your conduct fine among the nations, so that when they accuse you of being wrongdoers, they may be eyewitnesses of your fine works and, as a result, glorify God in the day of his inspection. 1Peter 2:12

Question:
Which country are you from?
What religion do you practice?
How many JWs have you caught in this act?

Please answer those questions if you're not publishing lies from Satan's agents!🙂

yommyuk:
Nationalism and racism is part and parcel of human nature. An unavoidable fact that all must accept.

Human nature but not God's will that is the reason why we are putting away the old personality that comes with human imperfection and embrace the new personality that's in accord with God's will. Ephesians 4:22-24

According to God's word Jesus our Lord, Master and King will teach us how to become one global family of peace loving worshipers {John 13:34-35} and nationalism and racism will be squashed completely in our gathering {Isaiah 2:2-4} so that love will serve as our identifying mark because God who is LOVE dwells in our midst {1John 4:8} therefore we will become ONE with the Father and Jesus! John 17:22

The love Jesus taught surpasses that of your tribesman that's why in his illustration the Samaritan did everything he could to save a Jew even though Jews and Samaritans had been separated due to nationalism and racism. John 4:9

So if your religion has failed to break the boarders of nationalism and racism you will still hate your so called "BRETHREN" who is from another country that is what Satan is using to promote hatred and killings globally today not just the audio love thing that people say claiming they love their neighbor just as Jews in Jesus' days only view Jews as their neighbor simply because they live in the same neighborhood. As true Christians our love can't be affected by nationalism!🙂

yommyuk:
BETTER TO LOVE THAN TO HATE

This is what everyone will say but when politics and racism shows up their faith dies instantly and the next thing is how to protect their nation forgetting that there are many of their so called fellow worshipers in other places.

As long as nationalism and racism exist only the true religion can practice love because we are no part of this world! John 17:14-16

Preciousgirl:
Since there will not be reproduction in paradise, will reproductive organs be intact? Any scriptures or word of knowledge to back it

Paradise will be on planet earth so the beneficiaries will continue to reproduce {Isaiah 65:21-23} it's those going to rule with Jesus in heaven that won't reproduce because they will transformed into spirit creatures and so there won't be fleshy bodies or gender difference. Luke 20:34-36

The first Paradise (garden of Eden) was here on planet earth so it will be restored back here but as for Jesus who wasn't human in his prehuman existence and those to be taken to his place they can't go with flesh and blood so there is nothing like male and female there!

MrEar:
I really dont have time to read what you wrote up there. Sorry, but you just wasted your energy and time for nothing. Am currently reading comments in one of my threads that hit front page. Feel free to check it out:
https://www.nairaland.com/8735273/female-police-officer-visited-secondary
👋 bye!

Honest hearted and sincere individuals will see these posts and make the best use of it so never mind my guy you can continue pursuing the things that makes more sense to you as for me and my brothers the search for humble and righteous people continues! Zephaniah 2:2-3

Cheers!🙂

MrEar:
Mr Max the JW Aposttate.
I can see you so much crave for my engagement. You've really missed me and you want things to return back to the way it was when I used to fllog you up and down all over threads in religion section. Those were really good times. Am sorry my dear apostate friend, My attention is needed somewhere else more important. But let me end this discussion in a way that I know will make you very happy.
Watchtower Organisation founded by the Zionist Charles Taze russell, currently lead by 8/9 Imperfect american men in warwick, is the ONLY Organisation in the WHOLE WIDE WORLD that is serving God. There I have said it, are you happy now? You can screenshot it and save it in your phone.
Bye!

So you assume hurtful words do matter to a real servant of Jehovah?

Ọmọ you really amazed me.

Have you quickly forgotten the group i belong to?

Well the love we have for God and for our neighbors surpasses whatever you can say to us {Mark 12:29-31} we have been trained to view such utterances and actions as those of a dog that has been caught by a trap if you love the dog surely you won't just leave it simply because it's ready to bite you for trying to save it.

Jesus taught us never to give up on any individual most especially when we have discovered that you've given up on false religion we will continue to show you that God is working in the midst of His true worshipers unless if you are not sincere to yourself.

You can throw more insults we are used to it already and mind you false religion will be destroyed soon perhaps when the world empire of false religion finally gets kicked off by politicians globally remember we have told you.

We will continue preaching and teaching in all our neighborhood even though all places of worship are locked up and those exploiting people can't gather them in centers anymore we will continue to meet for the work Jesus gave us because we are not doing it for money! Matthew 6:19-21

May you have peace!🙂

nnamdi640:
There are some witches in other continent that does good things, beside we should also know the actual definition of witch, you don't classified someone that is possessed by evil spirit as a witch.

The only thing that is good in witchcraft is that witches are humans like you and i who are created in God's image so they may use their powers to favor those around them {Act 16:16} but when Satan discovers they are about to switch to God's side he will punish them severely to irritate all their lovers.
That is why Jesus didn't condemn Mary Magdalene because he knew that Satan is tormenting her due to the fact that she has a good heart and this may lead her to become one of Jesus' disciples which she actually did! Luke 8:2

nnamdi640:
..... My own is that why will the lady be stealing despite having power to turn things to her favour, honestly I don't understand this kind of situation.

We Jehovah's Witnesses will never ever drive away such a person because we are aware that Satan and his demons are behind manipulating her so even in our midst we will welcome her and continue praying to support her in fighting against those spirits {James 5:14-15} and if she is willing to draw closer to God from the bottom of her heart Satan and his demons will run away {James 4:7} just as they all did for Mary Magdalene who was ready to clean her heart. James 4:8

Cleaning her heart has to do with seeing spiritism as of no good use {Deuteronomy 18:10} but if the possessed still feels like making use of the powers then there is no way we can help him or her because Satan and his demons stays closeby as long as you keep the covenant that binds their agent to them but if you decide to do away with such covenant they will leave you completely! Act 19:18-19

This is the question again:

Do you worship anywhere presently?

It's either a YES or NO before explaining but if you choose not to answer i'm OK.

One thing i want you to know is that there is no way you won't find mistakes in the midst of God's people because they are imperfect humans but God will never leave honest hearted and sincere individuals in the dark regarding the identity of His organized worshipers.

So if you still have the mind to worship God know today that Jesus did not leave God's faithful people despite their imperfection.

The identifying mark is and will always prove that God is working in the midst of His true worshipers.

I'm still your humble Max one of Jehovah's Witnesses!🙂

MrEar:
Hello Max, its been a while. Let me guess, you got bored and decided not to block me again.
I have answered this your question so many times naa, haba!
You are well known for going to peoples old post to dig out something to accuse them, so if really you want an answer to that question, take all the time you want to go through my old posts and find the particular place where I answered your question.
How did you know I have followers? You've been reading my posts secretly right?
Anyway,
Acts 17 :11-12 tells us that the bereans were more noble of character. Because they received paul's message with eagerness and examined the scriptures everyday to know if what he said was true.
That is how every servant of God should be like. When someone tells you something, the first thing to do is:
1. Receive it (Have an open mind).
2. Do your own research.
If after your research you find out that what the person said is true, then you can believe the person.
Its sad that JW leaders in warwick have taught their followers to believe them ONLY
If JW members were like they bereans, they would have had an open mind when other people told them that there is nothing wrong in keeping beards, wearing decent trousers or transfusing blood to save a life. They rejected the message as apostacy until their leaders gave them permission.
You are welcome.
I already know how your next response will be like, so let me kindly remind you that I have no beef with you Max.
By engaging with me, you are disobeying and disregarding those men in warwick and to me that is a very good sign that you are not a JW.

Obogidi:
I appreciate this write up,
I want to ask , do you think there is heavenly pleasure beyond worldly pleasure,
Like sex, food and others, since God said no sex and food in heaven,, I want to us to build logic aspect that will support God narrative for those that question and has little faith in God.

There is food in heaven because Jesus confirmed it {Matthew 26:29} but as for sex it's meant only for creatures having gender differences. Matthew 22:30

Now in the beginning God didn't create a female human but due to loneliness in the life of Adam God decided to make a companion for him {Genesis 2:18-22} then instead of Adam to reproduce like other creatures that can procreate without a female God made it mandatory for procreation to occur only between a man and a woman!

But Satan made some angels felt there is no life for them without sex that is why they left their place and duty only to start having sex with female humans and God disown them {Jude 6; 2Peter 2:4} so while angels enjoy the gift of no oldage sickness or death we enjoy the things that comes along with flesh but embrace its side effects!

MrEar:
Religion is one of the main reasons why Africa is poor. You think anyone under such madness can think of anything or do anything productive?

Do you worship anywhere presently?

Please i will really appreciate an honest response you may answer YES or NO and also include further comments to help your followers.

Thanks in advance!

Evaress:
True

Satan is the mastermind behind it all.

He doesn't want anyone to suspect him so if some say there is nothing like witchcraft Satan won't tamper with such ones but they will be affected by the things witches and wizards are doing globally.

One way witchcraft affects everyone is through human governments but sadly Satan has blinded the minds of billions so that they keep on fighting and killing themselves over human governments thinking they are fighting for their rights! Revelation 6:3-4

What Satan wants is to destroy everyone {John 10:10} Satan is using politics to promote sexual immorality, uncleanness, brazen conduct, idolatry, spiritism, hostility, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, dissensions, divisions, sects, envy, drunkenness, wild parties. Galatians 5:19-21

Many unsuspecting individuals will feel cheated as if their life is worthless when they see humans like them getting away with evil deeds simply because they belong to politics so if you are not a true Christian you may be carried away thinking it's better to get good people into public offices but all those seats belong to Satan's agents {Ephesians 6:12} Satan tried to fool Jesus into joining his rulership but God's only begotten Son is a million times wiser {Luke 4:5-7} do you know that each time an election is conducted to change those in public offices the next government becomes worse than the former? 🤔

Well that is because Satan, his demons and human agents are behind world's political struggles so no sincere person can get there and complete a tenure.

So witches are highly connected o but ignorant people will never believe it simply because little witches are turned into nuisance in their neighborhood yet many are getting initiated daily because they want either wealth, power of fame! Revelation 13:16-18

Obogidi:
What if the Devil was wrong about the solution—but right that something was wrong with the system?

You are really intelligent and this shows there are people who still think deeply.

The angel who later became Satan the devil surely felt something is wrong with the whole system.

WHY?

Because God created him (Satan) along with countless spirit creatures in heaven all of them are the same but on planet earth God made creatures that are of lesser materials (dust) and picked one out of them all to RULE over the rest of earthly creatures! Genesis 1:26-28

From that time onward this angel began planning to become a ruler on his own which surely will make him the opponent of God who supposed to be the SUPREME BEING! Isaiah 14:12-14

So his first attempt was to trick humans into rebellion against God but he dare not go directly to Adam out of fear that he could be smart therefore Satan talked to the weaker intelligent creature (Eve) unknowing to Satan that Adam had also been nursing the same idea to rebel against God's rulership.

That was how Satan succeeded in getting the first human pair to rebel against their Creator. But when people started to increase Satan can't control them all even though he's powerful but he can only be in one place at a time so he needed supernaturals like him to support him in ruling the earth that is why he convinced his fellow angels that their life in heaven is meaningless since they don't have gender differences like humans who are enjoying sex. This really works and many of them came down from heaven, formed materialized human bodies for themselves and began having sex with female humans! Genesis 6:1-5
That is how Satan got ⅓ of the angels in heaven into immorality with female humans! Revelation 12:4
So all the troubles in the world today was caused by Satan, fallen angels and humans who just want to dominate their fellow humans at all cost but God has sent out His true worshipers to get sincere and honest hearted individuals ready for His own rulership {Matthew 24:14} soon Satan will be arrested {Revelation 20:1-3} and all his followers will be destroyed then you will know who is wrong between Satan and God.

But until then God has given sincere and honest hearted individuals a sign that will help us distinguish between His worshipers and Satan's worshipers.

Will you like to know how to identify God's people today?🙂

Witchcraft is real but the problem with those involved is their inability to know the plans of the mastermind behind all forms of spiritism.

A diligent study of the Bible with the true Christians will help you.

There are fallen angels (demons) who are waiting for their destruction but until then they want to drag innocent humans into destruction along with them so they trick people into making a covenant with them. Such covenant could be for supernatural powers, riches, fame and many more.

When they have succeeded enticing the unsuspecting person they will turn him or her into a nuisance so that even those who truly cares about him or her will become irritated by their actions.

What they want is for their victims to kill themselves because they know that is the only way they can completely ruin the person, if they should kill their victims such a person may be shown mercy during the resurrection of the unrighteous people {Act 24:15} but when the person commits suicide the case will be complicated! Matthew 27:5

So witchcraft is real but to fully grasp it you need a diligent study of God's word with the true Christians then you will know all the truth behind Satan, demons, witches, wizards and finally you will be free from Satan's schemes! John 8:32

May you have peace!

Jesus said:

I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves. John 13:34-35

So what is the sign that distinguish God's people?

Everyone will IDENTIFY an organization that there is LOVE among them because God is LOVE! 1John 4:8

yommyuk:
True (In red)
But it is much better to love than hate.
Imagine, everybody hating on each other.

The highlighted is easier said than done.
Only one religion is practicing the love Jesus taught all others are false today it's only this religion that's fulfilling what was written by Isaiah:


In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths.” The law will go out from Zion, the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore. ‭Isaiah 2:2-4 NIV‬

Only the true religion is fulfilling what is highlighted in red today whereas others keep on deceiving themselves claiming Christians! Matthew 15:8-9

lawani:
If you applied your common sense you would have known that the question has no answer. If God created you then who created God? If big God created God then who created big God? So common sense would have solved your problem.

So according to your spirit there is no Creator since the creator also must be created shey?

Just say you are using your own understanding not spirit.

Ọmọ you sabi pass sabinus!😂

AntiChristian:
And how's my reference/research methods your business sir?

Are you this aggressive always?

Ọmọ calm down o!

God never send you to go on quarrelling with everyone for his sake so try being friendly at times, if you're always this petty your attitude alone will irritate people and make them feel your faith is peculiar to bitterness.😟

lawani:
I asked the question. My spirit blocked it but offered that it all started with one then two humans, male and female. Where did they originally come from? No answer.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1

Then God said: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every creeping animal that is moving on the earth.” And God went on to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them. Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:26-28
Bible

If your spirit doesn't know that means it has nothing tangible to offer!🥱

lawani:
THE REAL THING IS HEAVEN. YOU ARE ALWAYS THERE WHILE YOU ARE NOT ALWAYS HERE. YOU LEAVE HERE WHEN YOU DIE WHILE YOU ARE ALWAYS IN HEAVEN FOR AS LONG AS YOU EXIST. SO HERE IS A MARKET PLACE WHILE HEAVEN IS HOME. THERE IS NO GOING TO HEAVEN BECAUSE YOU ARE THERE SO LONG AS YOU EXIST AND YOU WILL EXIST FOR AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT DO EVIL OR LOSE A SPIRITUAL DEBATE WHILE AT THE LOWEST EMPATHY RANK OF SIX RANKS.

Did our existence have a beginning?

Who caused or is behind our existence?

Or did we just start to exist on our own?

Where exactly did our existence start HEAVEN or EARTH?

Please answer these questions one by one.

Thanks in advance!

Satan is the overall ruler of this world {2Corinthians 4:4} he got this position after the first human pair subjected to his will and ever since then he's been in control of human government {1John 5:19} Jesus confirmed that Satan is the ruler of this world {John 14:30} so when Satan offered Jesus a position under his wicked government Jesus declined the offer! Luke 4:5-7
You may wonder "how can God be the Creator yet Satan is the God of this world?" 2Corinthians 4:4
That is because the majority of people in this world are doing Satan's will after he has deceived them only a few found the truth about God and his will. Matthew 7:13-14
So when it comes to the government of this world Satan intentionally introduce a system of rulership that will favor his own agents: DEMOCRACY!
This system of government makes it very difficult for anyone on the part of truth to participate since it is the government that is controlled and driven by the majority and since majority don't know God's will Satan seize the opportunity to silence lovers of truth.
That is why Jesus said:
"‭ From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subjected to violence, and violent people have been raiding it. Matthew 11:12
This means everyone wants to be part of a righteous government but only the ones who are ready to die for (truth) can have a seat in the government that is of God! Revelation 2:10; 12:11

So children of God has nothing to do with the world's political struggles {John 6:15} it belongs to Satan, demons and their human agents they use weapons to dominate people while we keep on preaching (campaigning) for the system of government that Christ will control and since our preaching and teaching makes it difficult for them to make use of honest hearted people that they want to use as scapegoats they hate us with passion therefore we have to fight really hard to save the right hearted people but unlike Satan and his children our warfare has nothing to do with physical weapons rather our weapon is God's word {Ephesians 6:17} that we preach. They can only kill physical bodies they have no authority afterwards {Matthew 10:28} because Jesus will raise us back to life {John 11:25-26} when Satan, his demons and all their human agents are no more! Psalms 37:7-11
May you have peace!🙂

heartmosphere:
Hi Maximus, I agree that true Christian marriage values faithfulness as you mentioned. But respectfully, what do we do when things escalate to physical assaults, abuse, and threats to life, considering Proverbs says the prudent see danger and hide while the simple keep going and suffer?

The highlighted is for those considering marriage, the red light is always there but foolish will ignore.

Separation is allowed when there is threat to life but separated couples can't remarry {Matthew 19:5-6} they must remain like that or come back together again.

ItShallPass:
The Bible never says so!

That is part of the things the holy spirit taught us after Jesus left. John 16:12-13
Everything must be well documented {1Corinthans 14:40} so when we count the numbers of Jehovah's Witnesses globally such ones will not be numbered with us! John 6:66-68

ItShallPass:
And the help you can render is to scatter his life?
The Bible says we should restore them in love, and that those who think they stand should take heed less they also fall. That's for those who sinned.

When a brother commits fornication and i know of it i must not conceal him i should encourage him to take necessary steps for him to be helped but if he is reluctant then i should take the matter to the elders so he could be helped.
Of course we must remove unrepentant sinners from among us {1Corinthans 5:12-13} but when he or she shows remorse and turn around then we will help him to regain his stand! 2Corinthians 2:5-11

Ọmọ everything is follow accordingly!🙂

ItShallPass:
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Why should one write letter before leaving a group in the first place?

Everything should be well documented! 1Corinthans 14:40

ItShallPass:
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What will they do to fornicators who never got caught?

The Bible leaves each person to his own conscience in the case of wilful sinners. Hebrews 10:26-29

But unlike Cain we are our brother's keepers so we must call for help if he is spiritually sick!🙂

LOVE:
Does not rejoice over unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth. 1Corinthans 13:6 🙂

heartmosphere:
Spot on that conflicting foundations create unstable ground! But looking closely at Christian homes today, even those of the same faith often face a subtler danger: listening to the wrong voice.
Just like Adam and Eve in the garden, the destruction usually starts when a couple stops listening to the Creator's manual and starts taking cues from modern culture, bitter friends, or individual pride. A home can have the right doctrine on paper, but if emotional disconnect and worldly counsel take over, the marriage will still crumble.

Of course we can't rule out imperfection on the part of humans but in true Christianity divorce is never an option unless one of the two commits adultery which will make the adulterous one a fugitive of no repute among true believers!

Amotolongbo:
Please what is the true religion?
What makes the religion true other than book stories?

This is wonderful!😟

I have not seen such strong reasoning on this forum from the day i registered!

Well what made this religion true is the promises of their God and how He is using His worshipers to fulfill His promises!

The Bible God claimed He is the Creator of heaven and earth this has nothing to back it except what is written in story books. Genesis 1:1

He also promised to end all suffering on this planet in a future time, this also has no backing except what's written in the story books. Revelation 21:3-5


But then He told us how He will achieve this progressively so that in each generation faithful people could observe and witness to the fact that this God is truly working towards what He promised! John 5:17

He promised to arrange for a book to guide faithful people throughout the world so that they can all gather to form an organization! Isaiah 2:2

Then He said this people will use what is found written in His book to educate themselves globally like one family! Isaiah 2:3

Finally He told us what they need to achieve with the education they received through their study of His word:
They will use what they learned to settle disparities among themselves, then they will divert their resources into production of food and information materials, they will stop producing, buying, selling or using of weapons among themselves globally and no member of this organization will learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:4
In fact people throughout the world will see this people as if they are just one family despite the fact that they have come from different countries and nations. John 13:34-35

I am highly impressed when i see these things happening for real in a group of people in this time when politics and racism is causing wars and killings in all the nations {Revelation 6:3-4} but members of this religion have made it their own goal to take care of widows, orphans among them and they don't participate in world politics which is the major reason for hatred {James 1:27} can you believe that there is no single member of this religion that's begging for money throughout the world? Psalms 37:25

What else do i need to be sure that i have found the one and only true religion?🙂

zenburster:
Hopefully in a hundred years time, believing in a religion will be as preposterous as one believing the earth is flat

False religion you mean to say?

Because the true religion will forever be it's false religion that will be squashed by world government but as for the true religion they will be surprised to see us continue with our faith and activities!🙂

DarkJeddi:
Just because we don't have the answer currently doesn't mean I have to swallow your ignorance as proof.

I'm not forcing it on you nah!😂

DarkJeddi:
The only thing science agrees to is that time and research eventually exposes all ignorant superstitious believes.

It's ignorant people that feels everything they can't see should be termed SUPERSTITIOUS real scientists have come to the conclusion that they can't see it all but they just have to BELIEVE after observing things closely!