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No focus just quoting everyone without a specific point!

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

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achorladey:
Do you copy what others have done in the past or not?

What does copying what someone did in the past got to do with being the one and only true religion?
Jesus preached to people just as others also preached before him, performed miracles just as others did before him and worshiped God like others before him but that doesn't stop him from being God's choicest worshiper!

So when he said:

"I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except through me" John 14:6

The reason is because there is no better worshiper of God than Jesus.

So present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses not a group that did something before Jehovah's Witnesses!🙂

achorladey:
You know how to run away without mentioning my moniker. It is a way to avoid further exposure of lies and manipulations you spread here

When you can't prove what you said on Nairaland why should i waste my time with you?🙂

FxMasterz:
My friend, this is bad interpretation.
Jesus said "it is enough" without explaining the meaning of His statement to them?
Give me another instance in Scripture where the disciples misunderstood Jesus and He didn't explain Himself to them. If you can give me one, I will believe this your interpretation.

Bwahahahaha!😂
In fact a kid in Bible knowledge knew Jesus had no time to explain in details what he meant by that statement because few minutes later those coming to arrest him got to the scene and all his disciples ran away!😂

Jesus said "it's enough" Luke 22:38

Judas and thugs appeared to arrest Jesus. Luke 22:47

Do you think that's the right time to start lecturing them on the meaning of spiritual sword?

He quickly changed the subject and told them to start praying but instead they were sleeping due to tiredness! Luke 22:39-46

Please where is the time to start explaining what he meant by spiritual sword?😂

FxMasterz:
Except you want to infuse your own meanings into the Nigerian anthem. Oya, tell us the meaning.

Surely you hate the truth so there is no need arguing aimlessly with you!😂

First century disciples of Christ rejected military service and public offices because it involves worshiping Roman Emperor and Constantine who merged pagan roman worship with the church has the ambition of strengthening his own government.
Less than a century ago the worship of human rulers still seems OK until the death of Adolf Hitler whose people (Germans) must say "hail Hitler" to prove they are real Germans and today do you remember the first sentence in the national anthem?
Well Caesar has changed it to hail your nation instead of hailing Caesar but the motive remains the same because your nation's first man and his family comes first when talking about defense so you can continue deceiving yourself truth has exposed your unbelief!😂

See the screenshot below the single man in the picture refused to hail Hitler and people noticed him just as Babylonias noticed Shadrach Meshak and Abednego!🙂

Professor don confuse atheism no sabi any god/gods so any atheist saying he prefer one religion to another has lost it completely!😂

So you haven't stopped taking that stuff shey?🤔
I just dey pity your people?😟

Janosky:
The guy bring google evidences & at the same time deny all the evidences he bring come the thread.
Let him continue deceiving himself.

When Jesus said:
"You will know the truth and the truth will set you free" John 8:32
I don't know what they are thinking but is this not clear enough?
First century disciples of Christ don't participate in military services because Roman Emperor is the sole determinant of whatever the army does which makes the emperor more or less a god my guy still doesn't understand what Jesus meant when he told us:

“Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.” Mark 12:17 NIV‬


Jesus (God's word) said we must love everyone including our enemies {Matthew 5:43-48} but Caesar ordered the killing of those who strands against his government and my friend here still doesn't understand that obeying such orders is like putting Caesar before God!

Even Jews in the first century realized that Jesus is telling his listeners to view Caesar as a nobody before God despite being the world ruler that is why they wanted to know which one should come first between God and those in authority! Jesus Mark 12:29-30🙂

FxMasterz:
The reasons for which some early Christians avoided military service is different from yours. They avoided because they didn't want to be part of emperor worship, indiscriminate bloodshed (the emperor can just send you to go and kill anybody), oath of allegiance to the emperor as a deity, etc.

Ọmọ do you know the meaning of that National Anthem and pledge you people often recite? Daniel 3:1-5

Now ponder over the wording of all the national anthem and pledge throughout the world and answer if you are swearing an oath to God or your rulers?🙂

FxMasterz:
When Jesus first commanded the disciples to sell their clothes and buy swords, what do you think He meant?

Jesus always speak in Idioms that's why his disciples never questioned him when he told them and note what they said in response:

“Lord, look! here are two swords.”
Jesus realized they are not yet used to Idioms despite all his teachings so he cut the conversation by saying:
“It is enough.” Luke 22:38

Please if each of them needs a sword according to Jesus' statement how can two swords be enough for eleven men?

That shows he wasn't talking about physical swords but since they couldn't grasp his expression he said "it is enough" like saying "ok cut the crap"

Later God's holy spirit enlightened our first century brothers that Jesus was talking about each disciple having his own complete copy of the holy writings (Scriptures) which they later referred to as "SWORD". Ephesians 6:17; Hebrews 4:12

In fact when apostle John saw Jesus in his spiritual body the utterances protruding our of his mouth appeared as a SWORD! Revelation 19:15

So my guy each Jehovah's witness in all the earth have a complete copy of the Bible the SPIRITUAL SWORD today and if any of us doesn't have one we will sell whatever we have to buy one but thanks to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses even though Bible is really costly today there is no single JW throughout the world who doesn't have a complete copy of the Bible as they wisely managed the resources gotten to make sure each of us no matter how poor that country is all JWs in that country will have a Bible each!

That's the import of what my Master Lord and King Christ Jesus said!🙂

The shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself, But the inexperienced keep right on going and suffer the consequences. Proverbs 22:3; 27:12

[1]How can we cope with differences in ideas regarding the use of our time? Ephesians 5:15-16
A believer will spend 24 hours of his/her day as follows:
Early in the morning: talking to God
The day: business
Evening: time share with spouse, read God's word, talk to someone with whom you can reason on the practical application of what you read in God's word, inculcating values of faith in your children! Deuteronomy 6:5-7 compare to Psalms 1:1-6

[2] Weekends: time to worship as one family!
Where will your spouse be when you go to present yourself in the congregation of God?
Will your spouse support you taking the children along with you or you will go alone?


[3] Association: choice of friends.
Would you welcome whoever your spouse chooses to make friends? 1Corinthans 15:33

Surely challenges will come but what matters is how to face them!🤔

Floww23:
Murder is not just with weapons.

Please when next someone commits suicide tell the authorities to arrest the person who used the weapon of tongue to murder the person!🙂

Whoever commits suicide is the most stup1d on the face of this planet because when there is life there is hope but when you carry weapon and aim at your fellow man both God and man will condemn you.

The first murder in the Bible involved weapon not tongue and when Pharisees wanted to kill Jesus they did not use tongue but weapons.

So stop deceiving yourself because there is no group on this planet where people don't tongue-lash people which that makes the only one not using weapons the best!🙂

Here we go again!
The title "PASTOR" means one who leads the sheep to green pasture not one who criticizes false religions in the public square!😟
The theme of our message was boldly spelt out in the scriptures:

"The Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near" Matthew 10:7

That is the same theme both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth preached {Matthew 3:2; 4:17} so what exactly is wrong with Churchians today?🤔

Oracleee:
You spoke my mind, but the question is about kumuyi and Oyedepo not their members.

Your ministry is about people who got converted through your ministry that is what makes your ministry FRUITFUL.

When Kumuyi started it looks like he is getting things right as we often see his church members preaching on streets and in public buses but after some time members of his church got tired as their leader refused to join in street preaching and rich members in their church only attend Sunday and weekly services which means the street and bus preaching is only for the poor!😟

That is what affected Kumuyi's ministry!

According to Christ Jesus the fruit of your ministry are the people who have become members through what you taught so if their mind is not inclined towards the preaching and teaching work then something is wrong with your ministry {Matthew 7:15-20} because Christ Jesus should be the tree to which you must be connected {John 15:5} and if you are connected to Christ then all those that became believers through your ministry should become preachers and teachers of God's word everywhere they are. Act 1:8

That is what makes you a real minister not just your fame in the society!😟

The biblical meaning of MINISTRY totally differs from what most religionists called Christians does today.
Jesus' ministry began with few Jews and he instructed them one and all to go out and make more disciples which means followers who will also become preachers and teachers everywhere they are {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} but today what many call ministry is a business enterprise where someone gathers supposed worshipers to make money.
So i would have said Kumuyi's ministry is bigger but are Deeperlifers still doing the preaching zealously as they used to decades ago?
Jesus said by their fruits you will know them {Matthew 7:16-18} therefore since members of these religions are not active in the work Jesus who is the founder of Christianity assigned to his disciples i will say none of them have a REAL ministry.
Of course they have gathered worshipers for their own money making venture {Act 20:30} but for ministry it's a no.
Quantity differ from quality!

iamjavadem:
Just don't do what you don't want others to do to you....thats it, plain and simple. It covers all.

Please do you think the highlighted is enough for these people or something is still missing?😟

When Jesus commanded us not to carry arms and we know that some jobs requires it then God's holy spirit will teach us what to do {John 16:12-13} remember God's laws are now WRITTEN IN OUR HEARTS {Jeremiah 31:32-33} unlike the laws in written codes which is to be quoted God's spirit leads us! 2Corinthians 3:6🙂

FxMasterz:
Cornelboy is only irritated because I refuse to reason like him. Not because I am antagonizing the Bible.

Meanwhile, both you and Cornelboy and Janosky cannot show is Scriptures where God said rulers or soldiers should not bear arms. I know Cornelboy is brainwashed. He won't listen to sound doctrines based on scriptures but the ones based on JW reasoning.

FxMasterz:
You should first ask if Roman soldiers were among the members of the early church, and then ask if they were every asked to stop military service.

In the first century Christian converts do stop jobs like military service or holding public office that's why Roman emperors ordered the killing of those leading the group (CHRISTIANITY) they believe the group is dangerous just as you feel towards Jehovah's Witnesses today!🙂

Janosky:

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The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society released the first videos in the "Become Jehovah's Friend" animated series featuring Caleb and Sophia in 2012.
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Mormon video ,2022.
Oga ,must you deceive yourself to spread false info about JW's ?

He's been crying that i should block him so that he can start lying claiming he wants to expose God's organization!😂

Janosky:
Use your Google search engine to help yourself.
There are questions you shouldn't ask in a public forum.
To help you a bit , pls read the screenshot.

Unbelievers like him just continue arguing to show up, they don't make any research on what the early Christians believe:

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-transsion&hs=7Bnp&sca_esv=b5576d60e09f6916&sxsrf=ANbL-n4HT8GfcCQnzTYOzBg1oERIIYTNSA:1777395280025&q=The+Christians+As+The+Romans+Saw+Them:+Military+Service+and+Participation+in+politics&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiJiKqygZGUAxXNU0EAHT5oE1gQBSgAegQIDRAB&biw=360&bih=663&dpr=2

Janosky:
That's fine.
Thanks for your message.

Check your email!

FxMasterz:
Except you don't understand English. Cornelboy read the same thing and understood me fully that I'm talking about every soldier thinks of himself.

See Corbelboy's conclusion about you!

cornelboy:
I don't think I can continue a discussion with someone with that reasoning. That's obviously against Jesus teachings and true Christianity.

Corbelboy is still young in the faith so he feels irritated engaging people like you so in order not to start exchanging words with you he ended it respectfully! 1Peter 3:15🙂

Janosky:
Brother Max, pls briefly put your number let me call you or send me sms with my mtn line (if you have it).
My old number you have is not on WhatsApp.

I don't have it so i will DM you!

FxMasterz:
I didn't say anybody is on God's side. I only said they all believe they're on God's side.

FxMasterz:
Every soldier on the battlefield is on God's side.

😂

FxMasterz:
Tody, I have come to understand that Cornelboy is a sincere person.

Ọmọ Corbelboy discovered you don't have any shame but you assume he is convinced with the nonsense you keep typing!😂

Ọmọ unbelievers are in dense darkness o!😟

Imagine Absalom (a rebel) who planned a coup against his father David (God's anointed King) yet your friend said: both are on God's side!😂

cornelboy:
Okay

FxMasterz:
Abeg, military service is not religion. Every soldier fights for his country because he believes he's doing the right thing. They even pray before going to war.

YES! They are all praying to the same God while the God watch them destroy one another!😂

Jesus said to Jehovah's Witnesses in the first century:

“Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword." Matthew 26:52

Glory to our God in the heavens today Satan is blindfolding unbelievers to kill one another {Revelation 6:3-4} but God's people have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again be it friend or foe! Isaiah 2:4; Matthew 5:43-48🙂

FxMasterz:
If you asked Absalom when he was fighting his father, he'll tell you he was on God's side. Every soldier on the battlefield is on God's side.

So ISIS, BOKO HARAM fighting as soldiers could also be on God's side!😂

In fact they are completely empty when it comes to spirituality.

Imagine him saying God supports His worshipers to kill one another.

I wonder what he will say when people are killing themselves in the name of different religions.

Perhaps he will say they are supposed to fight and kill as soldiers not believers. 😂

cornelboy:
Were both Absalom and David on the same side? One was on God side and the other wasn't. God has nothing with the wars going on today. That's why God's people will never engage in wars and kill one another.

FxMasterz:
If he's a Christian, he wouldn't hold a weapon against me, just as I am one, and I have held no weapon against him. If he does hold up a weapon to harm me, I will defend myself against his attacks. Hypocrite, if you were, would you lay down your neck to be slaughtered by a so called fellow Christian who will no longer be appeased?

If he's fighting because his government ask him to do so and you're fighting for the same reason who will obey Jesus as his Lord between the two of you:

"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another" John 13:34-35🙂

FxMasterz:
Good!
Let governments all over the world withdraw protection and defence for all JWs. Let them announce that Bandits, Islamic terrorists, etc are free to do anything with JWs. Is that not okay?

Go and tell them that Jehovah's Witnesses believe only in God's protection!🙂

FxMasterz:
Can you imagine the Israelites saying God is their protector, and therefore never go to battle?

That is what Jesus God's only begotten Son taught those who listened to him among them {Matthew 5:43-48} when they were leaving Egypt God's order is for them to see how He will fight for them {Exodus 14:14} when they become a nation God commanded them to fight any enemy of the HOLY LAND not their own nation o?
But when Jesus said there is no more a holy land {John 4:22-24} fighting to defend any place becomes unscriptural for faithful servants of God.
WHY?
Because we have to love our neighbors just as we love ourselves {Mark 12:31} so if we should join in killing people in other lands we are depriving them of the Good News and if we should fight or kill a fellow Christian due to command from a human ruler that means we are disobeying Jesus who commanded us to love fellow believers the same way he loved us! John 13:34-35
So before Jesus Israelites needs to fight and defend the holy land but after that has been cancelled faithful servants of God must never again raise a weapon against anyone be it friend or foe! Matthew 5:43-48

I will continue to teach you the laws of our God as written in the hearts of His modern day worshipers! Isaiah 31:32-33🙂

cornelboy:
I don't think I can continue a discussion with someone with that reasoning. That's obviously against Jesus teachings and true Christianity.

He makes a lot of noise in the past but now he's running away from me o!😂

Before he will be the first to come and start talking trash on my thread.

So she will not be RESURRECTED?😟


“Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. ‭‭John 5:28-29 NIV‬