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zinaunreal:
Big disturbance. Na only Christians sabi preach? You won't respect people's religion and a civilised society. Na only her religion dey there. Na so una go dey carry backwardness dey go front. You dey go preach to people wey get the religion 😆

Satan is the god of confusion {Revelations 12:9} so he realized that if Christianity is left alone most honest hearted people will get the sense of our message so Satan is using a subtle attack on Christianity by forming different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines yet all of them are claiming Christians.

Today only few but wise people are asking the right question:

Which religion is practicing Christianity as Jesus commanded?

Majority have confused niceness or generosity with faith in Christ so whenever they see any nice or generous person they expect him to claim he is a Christian but most times they are shocked to find out that nice and generous people can be found in virtually all religions even among atheists and agnostic.

So the purpose of Christianity is lost as people don't care to find out what Jesus taught his disciples and who are those doing it today?😟

Ihebu4chelsea:
Who commanded the one she's doing? So it's only Jw's that are doing the work of evangelism? How can people allow others to think for them? Use your common sense chief.

Well if you think only one religion is doing things the way Jesus commanded then you don't have to deceive yourself.

If only Jehovah's Witnesses are getting it done exactly how Jesus commanded that is clear indication they are the only Christian group nah!😟

Arostar2023:
As expected, turning the Bible upside down to suit your narrative.

That's how fully competent and completely equipped Bible scholars present our argument not just speaking without scriptural backing!😟

Arostar2023:
As usual, giving extra biblical interpretation to what is plainly written in the Bible, just to suit your narrative.

Prove the scriptures wrong nah because Jesus established what makes sense not something that lacks critical thinking skills.

press9jatv:
I guess her giving her life to Christ gives her the boldness to preach in the bus.

NO!
She is misinformed!
Preaching according to Christ Jesus must be as a group and they must go in pairs {Luke 10:1} each pair is to approach one person at a time, greet in the local language {Matthew 10:11} then introduced their message not indiscriminately disturbing people with noise! Matthew 12:19
That's what makes this unscriptural and many are getting provoked with the way these misinformed churchgoers are doing it today claiming they are doing it for Jesus!😟

Arostar2023:
Firstly, I don't need any man of God to indoctrinate me over what's in the Bible. I have my own Bible, and by God's grace, I can also read. If there is anyone that is running around fanatically with what he was told by some "elders", it's you.

This is why Jesus appointed APOSTLES to oversee the work he assigned to all his disciples {Luke 6:13} and in the first century all the disciples were humbly taking instructions from the apostles {Act 2:42} that's how the oneness in thought which Jesus prayed {John 17:22} for was achieved! 1Corinthans 1:10
So there are chosen members among us that's given the spirit to TEACH and lead us in doing the work {Ephesians 4:11-12} if you reject that arrangement that's your own cup of coffee but know that Christ Jesus ORGANIZED his disciples so that they can thoroughly fulfill the assignment given to them.

Arostar2023:
Secondly, going by your argument and position, non of us should bother preaching the gospel since we are gentiles and Jesus directly commanded His disciples, who were Jews to preach and do miracles in His name. Abi?

Jesus taught his Jewish brothers how to train gentiles that's why he openly said:

“I was not sent to anyone except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Matthew 15:25

His own assignment is to train Jews how to take the work to the people of the nations and there is no miracles attached to doing the work among gentiles that's what Paul explained to his fellow Christians in Corinth {1Corinthans 13:8-10} and that's why Timothy was not healed miraculously when he was sick! 1Timothy 5:23

Please when i'm making comments don't come causing distractions if you don't believe in God's word!😟

Arostar2023:
You called preaching the gospel nonsense?

What that lady is doing right there makes no practical sense she is insulting Christ Jesus by doing what Jesus didn't teach his disciples!

Arostar2023:
Apart from working in and through the synagogues, the disciples followed their Master in preaching in the open air. The "Acts" give us plenty of examples of this, e.g. in Jerusalem, Samaria, Lystra and Athens. That your preferred method of preaching your brand of the gospel is door-to-door, does not mean that speaking in public places is not effective. Peter on the day of Pentecost preached to the public, and three thousand souls were added to the church as a result of that. You called that ineffective?

Acts.2.41 - Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

The reason you are beating yourself up over this issue because of this , is because they told that you can only be saved by accumulating hours spending witnessing . Something that doesn't have biblical bases.

If you carefully read the scriptures you will see that the disciples preached in all those places following the INSTRUCTIONS their leader gave them not going about disturbing people with noise. It must be orderly as instructed not anyhow you feel!

Franking:
Yes. Since it was between the holy spirit and Mary.

Sorry, the Bible is for wise people who will dig further to get the understanding not lazy people {Proverbs 2:4} lots of the information we got from the Bible that seems controversial when it was penned down are now modern day science.

Take for instance the book (Bible) says our planet home is spherical (round) {Isaiah 40:22} nobody except the writer believed what he was writing because it was through inspiration from God but today who is still in doubt now that the earth is spherical?
Another example what is carrying the earth since nothing can stand without support but the book (Bible) says God is hanging the earth upon nothing and the inhabitants are glued to its surface like ants {Job 26:7} please can modern day scientists argue with this ancient book on the topic?
Still another case is how the book (Bible) explained what happened regarding the water circle because people noticed that all the waters are flowing to the oceans yet it's level remains! Job 36:27-28

Please how did those ancient men know all of these if not someone who knew the foundation revealed it to them? Genesis 1:1🙂

Franking:
Who is Jesus? Stop deceiving yourself. Jesus is fictional as no one can be conceived without sex. Wake up.

Because misinformed churchgoers have spread lies everywhere you feel there is nobody called JESUS shey?
Well Jesus is real. Do you know anyone in the history of mankind who promised to fill the planet with his disciples? Act 1:8

Well Jesus has done that but Satan is the one having greater number of deceived people who are claiming Christians today. Matthew 7:13-23

We true Christians don't meddle in politics we believe only in God's Kingdom.
We don't participate in wars because we love our neighbors.
We don't protest against human governments because we know they are having their time as God permitted them.
We've used God's word to settle all our disparities peacefully among ourselves so whoever feels like avenging himself can't stay in our midst.
We have dedicated our lives to the doing of God's will namely to take the message of His kingdom to everyone in our neighborhood.
Today when people talk about real love in the midst of religionists only one religion has it: the true Christians! John 13:34-35

So if you're still nurturing the idea that Jesus never existed try to figure out how all these could be possible in a world that is filled with hatred!🙂

press9jatv:
seriously. She has given her life to Christ

That's credulity not faith in Christ!

tunde1200:
Go and do the preaching in Israel.
And see the outcome of wickedness of Israeli

The truth is that this is not what Jesus established as PREACHING there must be two preachers {Luke 10:1 compare to Ecclesiastes 4:9} and they are not supposed to make noise in the streets {Matthew 12:19} rather they are supposed to approach people, greet in local language and introduce themselves before presenting their message {Matthew 10:11-13} in this way the householder will have the opportunity to ask questions regarding what they are saying which will open the door for TEACHING! Matthew 28:20

But these people makes things difficult for true Christians because by the time we want to do what Jesus commanded us most people will start asking questions that's not related to our message but what they heard these noisemakers saying in public buses and in their streets!😟

Arostar2023:
Is there anywhere in the Bible where Jesus restricted His disciples to any mode/method of preaching/teaching?

YES! Jesus' disciples are to greet the householder as a way of introducing themselves before speaking so when the householder proves to be hostile they mustn't say anything further! Matthew 10:11-13

So think and stop deceiving yourself.

Arostar2023:
You quoted Mathew 10 to support your viewpoint. Did you also read verse 1, 5 & 6 of that same chapter you quoted?

Matt.10.5 - These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:Matt.10.6 - But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Now tell me, is it only Jews that you guys knock on their doors when you go out to preach? Because if you knock and try to teach non-jews, according to you, that will be contravening Jesus's commandment.

The Jews are Jesus' first target because God promised to educate the whole world regarding salvation through the descendants of Abraham {Genesis 12:1-3} Peter reminded his Jewish brothers this promise! Act 2:39
That's why Jesus specifically told his disciples to go and educate the Jews first not that the preaching won't go further to other nations. Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8

Arostar2023:
Jesus commanded His disciples in the Bible to go out and preach and heal the sick. But you Jehovah witness' people don't heal the sick and do miracles. According to you, you guys are walking in disobedience to Jesus's commandment.

Jesus gave his Jewish brothers the authority to perform miracles because that's part of the promise God made to Israelites {Exodus 19:5} you can never ever find a single gentile perform any miracles in the Bible.

Today no one is performing any miracles that's from Jesus because it started and ended in the first century Paul told the Christians in Corinth not to expect that gift to continue because it's just a way of telling the Jews that God is no longer in support of Judaism! 1Corinthans 13:8-10

If you have any verse in the Bible where a none Israelite perform any miracles or where Jesus' disciples were speaking to uninterested passersby prove me wrong!

Arostar2023:
You again! What are you doing in a non-JW thread?

Any topic that involves PREACHING is my business so interested followers need to differentiate between noisemaking and what Jesus commanded us.

There is nowhere in the Bible that Jesus and his disciples indiscriminately speak to passersby or uninterested people that is against the purpose of preaching. We must have interested audience who will ask questions regarding what we are saying that's when preaching becomes effective not just disturbing passengers or passersby with unwanted noise.

Arostar2023:
I guess you are only regurgitating what you were in taught in your group

Prove me wrong by presenting a scenario where first century disciples of Christ were talking to people who aren't interested in what they are saying.
You people has been indoctrinated by your religious leaders that even when you see the truth you still want to stick to unreasonable opinions.
Have anyone asked a noisemakers any question regarding what you people are saying in public buses or market places?
You people have turned the fine works Jesus commissioned to nonsense before everyone!😟

Ken4Christ:
One of the lies Rutherford and Russell planted in your heart. You are under the grip of their false teachings. You believe what they say more than what the scripture clearly teaches.

What the scriptures clearly teach is that God caused the existence of man {Genesis 2:7} so He has the power to end it {Genesis 2:17} not that man can't cease to exist. Such ideas is from Satan not God! Genesis 3:4

Xilsbridalhouse:
You call Evangelism noise ? I hope you repent before this statement is used against you.

That is not, cannot and will never ever be the work Jesus commissioned!

First of all what Jesus commissioned is a house to house preaching! Matthew 10:11-13; Luke 10:6

Secondly Jesus himself doesn't disturb people with noise in the neighborhood {Matthew 12:19} so he speaks to people in their homes not shouting indiscriminately at passersby.

Thirdly true preaching according to Jesus should go along with teaching {Matthew 28:20} so interested listeners will be given the opportunity to ask questions which Jesus' disciples should provide the answers. That's what Jesus commanded not shouting indiscriminately at those who are heading to their destinations.

LordReed:
LoLz. Rather I would list places where people have called you out for being dishonest, that would be a very long list.

Good!
So you can keep those ones while i keep these ones perhaps the comments of negative people can convince these ones to have a change of heart regarding positive thoughts they had towards Max!😂

Franking:
Yes, well, Jesus wasn't conceived that way!

OK you expected the writer to give you all the details of how the life of a baby was infused into the womb of a virgin shey?🙂

AfDapone:
People now conceive w/o sex. It is called IVF.

Each time i read comments like this i see the reasonableness of some people.

Surely what God miraculously did to Mary is no longer new as humans can pick few semen from another man and infuse into the womb of a woman.

God bless you for this!🙂

DeepSight:
Chai. Look if I quote a person who mentioned you, it will appear in your mentions. Heaven have mercy.

Guy concentration really matters in life, i have no business with you since you've told me you aren't interested in humility so i don't know how quoting someone else translates to having anything to do with you!

DeepSight:
It was among your quotes of praises for you and where JimRohn mentioned me while praising you that naturally appears in my mentions. And that's exactly why I remembered him too.
Don't you know how mentions work.
Pls go and sit down.

So i didn't mention you rather you chose to mention and even directed him to the post that has nothing to do with the ongoing discussion just to make him feel bad for rating Max!🙂

DeepSight:
Wasnt hanging around waiting for anything. You made a comment which included my name and was in my mentions and thus reminded me. Not waiting for him BTW, the ball has been in my court since. Its just not that interesting.

Please quote that comment where i mentioned you when it's not you and i that's discussing!🙂

DeepSight:
Unique ways like saying no human other than a JW can be humble right?

I always stand by my comments that's one thing unique about me in fact all those rating me know me very that if you are not one of Jehovah's Witnesses i will never ever call you my brother yet they can't beat the feelings because they know i have sound proof of what i'm saying!🙂

DeepSight:
Its so creepy how someone can be storing up posts where people praise him.

But it's not creepy how someone refuses to forget a comment for 45 days yet still sticking around expecting the other guy to come back and continue arguing fruitlessly with you. Shey?

You even tried to create enmity between me and the guy saying i once told you no human can claim to be humble if not one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

All that is not creepy shey?😂

LordReed:
Dude in all our discussions you have hardly if ever dropped any "hard facts". You are more generally known for fudging almost everything you say.

Sirmwill:
I am not a Jehovah Witness person
I am not even a church person
But
I can tell you ,you are saying a lot of truth but
Most people would not accept
So
Don't bother yourself much with arguments 😇

DoctorAyukebot:
You know your scriptures

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

IykeSent:
This is a deep and insightful explanation of Hebrews 1:5, showing how Jesus is uniquely God's Son not just another angel. I especially liked the connection to the temple and the idea of spiritual sonship through being “born again.God bless you for this

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same Christian doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

Kingsempires:
wow I love this your statement 🙂🙏

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

shinaola21:
Perfectly said bro 💯

JimRohn:
Do you really consider DeepSight to be on the same intellectual level as MaxInDHouse or some of the other individuals I engage with here?

Because frankly, MaxInDHouse is among the most intelligent contributors on Nairaland. In contrast, DeepSight does not even qualify for consideration when I rate people based on intellect.

That is precisely why I refuse to bring myself down to his level — instead, I choose to engage with those whose reasoning and arguments are worth my time.

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

RavinWolf:
I never saw a better response. Thank you. 100% correct!

Go and convince them!😂

LordReed:
And that is apart from the absolutely cracked comparison of DeepSight's intellect and that of MaxInDHouse. Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Dishonesty comes from people's heart at least atheists like you can testify to the power of tongue that God gave MaxInDHouse:

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

No doubt this commentator is an atheist like you but he still testified to the unique way Max handles discussion!🙂

DeepSight:
Ride on my brother. Keep on living by the praises of strangers. May it do well for you.

The highlighted!😟

Kai! Kai!! Kai!!!

Never call me your brother!

I can never ever be a brother to anyone who despises humility!

Please you are my neighbor but never my brother.

So stick to whatever makes you happy while i stick mine too!🙂

Ken4Christ:
The Scripture says so. Jesus repeatedly warned his audience about the damnation of hell. And its exactly what I am doing. Its an unbearable suffering for the rest of your life.

Ọmọ try to educate yourself at least if those pastors have reduced you to what we don't know that's not the end of you.

Life ends at death that's what God said! Genesis 2:17; Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

DeepSight:
I dont live by the validation of others as you do and I dont need people to "rate" me they way you do. It shows something very sad about you, many have told you before.

Sorry you have nothing worthwhile to offer for which sincere and honest hearted observers could testify:

Sirmwill:
I am not a Jehovah Witness person
I am not even a church person
But
I can tell you ,you are saying a lot of truth but
Most people would not accept
So
Don't bother yourself much with arguments 😇

DoctorAyukebot:
You know your scriptures

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

IykeSent:
This is a deep and insightful explanation of Hebrews 1:5, showing how Jesus is uniquely God's Son not just another angel. I especially liked the connection to the temple and the idea of spiritual sonship through being “born again.God bless you for this

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same Christian doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

Kingsempires:
wow I love this your statement 🙂🙏

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

shinaola21:
Perfectly said bro 💯

JimRohn:
Do you really consider DeepSight to be on the same intellectual level as MaxInDHouse or some of the other individuals I engage with here?

Because frankly, MaxInDHouse is among the most intelligent contributors on Nairaland. In contrast, DeepSight does not even qualify for consideration when I rate people based on intellect.

That is precisely why I refuse to bring myself down to his level — instead, I choose to engage with those whose reasoning and arguments are worth my time.

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

RavinWolf:
I never saw a better response. Thank you. 100% correct!

Sirmwill:
I am not a Jehovah Witness person
I am not even a church person
But
I can tell you ,you are saying a lot of truth but
Most people would not accept
So
Don't bother yourself much with arguments 😇

DoctorAyukebot:
You know your scriptures

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

IykeSent:
This is a deep and insightful explanation of Hebrews 1:5, showing how Jesus is uniquely God's Son not just another angel. I especially liked the connection to the temple and the idea of spiritual sonship through being “born again.God bless you for this

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same Christian doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

Kingsempires:
wow I love this your statement 🙂🙏

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

shinaola21:
Perfectly said bro 💯

JimRohn:
Do you really consider DeepSight to be on the same intellectual level as MaxInDHouse or some of the other individuals I engage with here?

Because frankly, MaxInDHouse is among the most intelligent contributors on Nairaland. In contrast, DeepSight does not even qualify for consideration when I rate people based on intellect.

That is precisely why I refuse to bring myself down to his level — instead, I choose to engage with those whose reasoning and arguments are worth my time.

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

RavinWolf:
I never saw a better response. Thank you. 100% correct!

Fight the fine fight of the faith; get a firm hold on the everlasting life for which you were called and you offered the fine public declaration in front of many witnesses. 1Timothy 6:12

Steep:
But your cult disturb people by knocking on their doors every now and then.

Do you call what Jesus COMMANDED a disturbance? Matthew 10:11-13; Luke 10:6
Now you are judging yourself! John 3:19

DeepSight:
Where is that fugitive JimRohn. It is time we address the prophet moh and his many alarming words and deeds.

If you want people to rate you try to get things right with the way you interact with them.
What that guy told you about Max is not new many have said the same before i started keeping such comments for people like you who just feel like saying negative things simply because we disagree on serious matters.

Sirmwill:
I am not a Jehovah Witness person
I am not even a church person
But
I can tell you ,you are saying a lot of truth but
Most people would not accept
So
Don't bother yourself much with arguments 😇

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same Christian doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

So whether you agree with me or not i'll move on but stand on whatever i told you whenever you ask for EVIDENCE!

She is doing the so called "EVANGELISM" Nigerians infused in her head neither Jesus nor his disciples go about disturbing people with noise!😟