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@ KnowledgePower7
Can this your true God stand on His/Her/Its own without having to do with Yahweh?

If so let's assume Yahweh never existed and focus on what this your God has to say for Himself/Herself/Itself.

Hmmmmmmm, so you are still talking about YAHWEH even though what you are saying has been misconstrued but let's keep Yahweh's case aside and talk about the TRUE GOD you know.

Please since this GOD lives inside of you i want to believe He/She/It can speak through you when i ask questions about this God.

So forget about Yahweh for now and let's talk about this true God and how you now know Him/Her/It.

Thanks!

KnowledgePower7:
The lower bloodthirsty entity parading as the True Almighty God.

Since he is not the True God
He use fear punishment to force people to obey and worship him.

One of yaldobath archons Yahweh was involved in the Israelites journey in Egypt and out of Egypt.

A remarkable story of Yahweh sending venom snakes to bite people of Israel for disobeying him.
When Moses pleaded to Yahweh
Yahweh instructed him to mold a bronze statue of a SNAKE and put it on a pole.
Whoever looks at it will get healed.

No loving God will subject their creation to this type of dark mond games punishment .
Only a lower entity claiming to be God can do such.

To find the true God
He is inside you. You have the spark of God in you. It's in everybody.

KnowledgePower7:
i am fully aware of the bible God

Hmmmmmmmm, OK
Do you know a better God than Yahweh?
If so please let me know what that God promised and who are the worshipers of that God today?

Thanks!

KnowledgePower7:
And still gets worshipped by his slaves

Are you really interested in knowing the truth about the Bible God?

Expanse2020:
Note
Not only Jesus died
Not only him resurrected
And not only him still alive
Alaye rest and stop defensing lie

Now you are tackling them for real because only Jesus is alive after living as human all others are sleeping in death.

According to God's word through Adam death spread to all men {Romans 5:12} so whether they naturally grow old, get sick and die or murdered they must die so Enoch can't be alive otherwise the scriptures that says all have inherited sin from Adam and the one that says only Jesus is alive including where Jesus said no man has gone to heaven before him will all be rendered invalid if Enoch is not dead!🙂

Ken4Christ:
Why did he say, "Before Abraham, I Am"

Angels (God's spirit sons) don't grow old or die so as one of them Jesus exists even before Adam who is great grandfather of Abraham.

oridavid:
You're free to go and argue with the Bible because the Bible says in a few places that Enoch didn't die. If you have a problem, go and rewrite the Bible, please.

There is no verse in the entire Bible that says this rather what the scriptures said is Enoch didn't see death which totally differs from what you typed.

Someone didn't die means he is still alive but someone didn't see death means he never experienced death as in growing old or facing sickness that could kill him or being murdered!🙂

sonmvayina:
i have sent it.

Who are the worshipers of your god?

Let's know them because you don't know what you are doing!

sonmvayina:
This is the original Hebrew translation

Can you present living evidence apart from mere arguments?
If you don't have any group of people who are unitedly doing or practicing what you believe then your god is DEAD!

sonmvayina:
The son of God in Genesis is a mistranslation.

Can you provide evidence that the translators are wrong?

AntiChristian:
What does betrayal of trust mean?
Stealing public fund is same as stealing anybody's fund! The hand should be cut off!

This is what the governor said!

There is a difference between stealing what wasn't given to you and misuse of what is placed in your care.

Do you understand now?

So that's your own opinion my own Bible called them SONS OF GOD!

sonmvayina:
In the first passage, that is not what is there in the original Hebrew. It was talking about the nobles. That is sons of a particular blood lines. Maybe that of Seth. Seth was a son of Adam.
In the second passage it is referring to the orishas. They are the orishas of which Satan is one of them.
Same thing as the third. There is no where God said he was sending anyone as a sin offering to himself to save people from the hell he created. NO WHERE. That is what I don't get.

oridavid:
They can't, unless they have another revelation separate from what we see in the scripture.

Enoch is sleeping in death.

In Bible book of Revelations here is what we found:

And the SEA gave up the dead in it, and DEATH and the GRAVE gave up the dead in them, and they were judged individually according to their deeds. Revelations 20:13
From where will resurrected ones come?

SEA: Those drowned or eaten by fish.
DEATH: Anyone who is no more alive.
GRAVE: Those buried.

So Enoch is DEAD because the Bible never recorded his death doesn't mean he goes to heaven Jesus has debunked that idea! John 3:13

Expanse2020:
Antiislam
MaxinDhouse
Kindly provide us with answer or evidence that he died in the bible

The Bible is not your book where each of you have to go asking your imam how to explain simple things.
The Bible says:

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23

That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned— Romans 5:12

As regards going to heaven Jesus said:

Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but the one who descended from heaven, the Son of man. John 3:13

I believe by now you should be able to figure out what happened to Enoch yourself!

sonmvayina:
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When did God say he had a son? I don't get it..

Guy you don't believe the Bible so there is no business of yours in what believers of the Bible are discussing.

Now when men started to grow in number on the surface of the ground and daughters were born to them, the sons of the true God began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful. So they began taking as wives all whom they chose. Genesis 6:1-2

Now the day came when the sons of the true God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and Satan also entered among them. Job 1:6

When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? Job 38:7

If it's in the New Testament you will say the writers are Romans but these are God's inspired words!

AntiChristian:
Grandpa, but this case is wrong! Stealing in Islamic court if proven to be true warrants the punishment as required!

You missed the point.
Does Sharia gives the verdict to cut off any part of the thief's body?

What is Sharia's judgment for someone who betrayed trust!

mauriceju2:
HELL Is a real(invisible) place where that part of Humans (souls) that act in dream, that goes to witchcraft and occult meetings etc , that goes to marin kingdom for witchcraft meeting and operation while the body is sleeping on bed would go.

Does the body goes to Hell too?

How much do you know about the flag bearer presented to you by the party?

Can you really vouch for the person?

Do you know what your finger print means for politicians?

Well it simply means some people actually voted (vouched) for them as the right person for the office so when they misappropriate funds the curses of those suffering won't go to them rather it will go to those who vouched (voted) them.

To illustrate imagine someone borrowed sum money from the bank so you choose to guarantee the loan and your properties were used as collateral for the fund, when that person fails to pay up what happens to your properties used as collaterals?

Politicians don't really need your votes but in the spirit realms there is an ongoing case regarding the rulership of the world so curses rained at politicians goes straight to their guarantors not the politicians.

Let's borrow a leaf from an Islamic state, a governor embezzled public funds and when taken to the Sharia court where people used to be amputated for stealing fowls, goats or yam this man (governor) said:

The people voted me in as governor, i only betrayed their trust as the man in whose care the state fund is kept since they vouched (voted) for me so if i'm to be punished by the Sharia court let me know what the Sharia says to betraying the trust of people as regards stealing i did not steal anyone's personal money"

So the case ends!

But one thing is found in his statement.

He never stole anyone's personal money rather he only betrayed their trust so if you vote for anyone you are vouching for him or her as guarantor therefore whatever that person does in office is your fault!

mauriceju2:
PLEASE DO NOT GO TO HELL, IT IS FOR ALL ETERNITY. IT IS AN ABSOLUTE ETERNAL
MISTAKE TO DECIDE YOUR FATE IN HELL.
JESUS CHRIST LOVES YOU, AND HE WANTS YOU TO HAVE ETERNAL LIFE WITH HIM
IN HEAVEN

Hell means Grave!😟

paxonel:
it's not about me giving up, you people should humble yourselves, let go of doctrines that are not realistic and stand for the truth
But conventional doctrines in all churches told us a lie that rapture is in the future,until we become adult enough to read the bible and find out the truth for ourselves?
all these things you are saying do not add up!
What add up and sensible is what the bible has said :
1. That Adam and Eve sinned so they lost their eternal life
2. That Jesus Christ died, resurrected and restore the eternal life back to mankind.
I don't see anything rapture there!
How does rapture fit in?

All churches are teaching RAPTURE except Jehovah's Witnesses preaching an end to badness.
When will you put away prejudice and face the reality?
There is nothing called RAPTURE in the Bible and what the churches wrapped up as RAPTURE doesn't correlate with the inspired writings of the Bible.
Later you will say Jehovah's Witnesses are worse but how?
You can't explain!🤔

Which of the churches is teaching exactly what Jesus taught?

All of you are talking about the fake ones how come none of you talks about the ORIGINAL and how to IDENTIFY those leading the original today?

We know there is fake money in town it's no longer news but what matters now is the features of the original money and where to get it!🙂

Ken4Christ:
Legally, salvation has been made available for all creation. All creation has been given the opportunity to be born again and Jesus is the first to be born again. Several thousands are getting born again on a daily basis. So, the choice is left to each individual.

Stop lying nah!
Jesus being the first born of all creation is not limited to humans all creatures are involved.
So creatures like birds, animals, fishes and creeping creatures whether they live on land or water are BORN by the Creator and Jesus is the FIRSTBORN that's what the scriptures said.
When it comes to verse 16 which says:

because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him. Colossians 1:16

You will be eager to say it's all creatures but when it comes to being firstborn you want to restrict it all to dead humans shey?

Ọmọ it's not going to work!🙂

Ken4Christ:
The term firstborn is used for Jesus because he was the first to be born again or the first who was raised to life from spiritual death.

Read where it was mentioned:

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. Colossians 1:15

Can you name any other creature apart from humans to become born again or raised from the dead?

Come on there are many things created and the scripture says Jesus is the first born of ALL CREATION.

So it's not about humans but everything in general Jesus was born (created) first!🙂

This is the first reason why i began to be skeptical about the book because there shouldn't have been just one person who is to be inspired by the spirit called "Allah"
For instance the book Bible was written through the inspiration from a spirit who also claimed to be God but unlike the Quran the Bible God started from calling a man named "Abraham" and revealing to him what He wanted from Abraham. Abraham's descendants will serve as priests of the Most High God.
This same promise was transferred to Abraham's son Isaac and later to his grandson Jacob.
Then God arranged for the Israelites to settle in a land the God Himself acquired for them and from there prophets came out of that nation which the Quran mentioned so many of them so how come all the messages in the Quran came through just one man Muhammad?🤔
In the laws the God of Israel gave His worshipers there must be at least two to three witnesses {Deuteronomy 17:6; 19:15} this means only one person can't serve as mouthpiece for this God when there aren't any other person to back his testimony with supporting points.
So the book Bible has many inspired Israelites bringing messages and all were pointing to the same God (spirit)
In the New Testament the story of Jesus was written by four Isrealites who lived in the same time with him though many argued that they don't know these men but going by what happened in the first century the Jews acknowledged a first century prophet named John the baptist because he was shouting in the wilderness making him noticable by most Jews but Jesus and his disciples only go quietly speaking to people in their homes {Matthew 12:19} so only those who became his disciples could say much about him and they are not popular too because they don't go about shouting in public places because Jesus sent them to speak with people in their homes. Matthew 10:11-13
So if some people say the writers of the New Testament are anonymous we know the reason why they aren't popular like Israelite prophets in ancient times.
But as for the Quran only one man is the prophet among people who aren't worshipers of the God he claimed sent him and to worsen the matter Muhammad never performed a single miracle which the God of Israel often use as sign that He sent the messenger.
So how can only one man bring a book and claim it's the God who doesn't back single witness to air His messages but two or three?
After reading the Quran a sincere and honest hearted individual will realize that the so called inspiration was centered on Muhammad himself and all it's goodies was in support of this single prophet who lived not as exemplary but questionable lifestyle.
Well in conclusion it's obvious that the so called prophet fabricated everything by himself to authenticate himself and the true God proved him wrong because all his children died in the process a sign that he was never sent to or by anyone!

Bunoxspot:
"For many are called, but few are chosen." (Mathew chapter 22 verses 14)

This statement is applicable to Israelites only!

Jesus came to call the Israelites and not people of the nations {Matthew 10:6; 15:24} because the promise to rule with the Christ belongs only to the sons of Jacob as the Christ is to be born among them and it's from their midst God will choose corulers with His Christ.

So the call was made to all descendants of Jacob but it's not all of them that'll join him as corulers that's what the Bible book of Revelations 7:5-8 revealed.

All those responding to the call will be saved but it's few among them that will be chosen to rule with the Christ.

FreeSpirited:
Don't even attempt to bring proofs from the Bible.. These people have eyes, they cant see, they only want to hear what their GO tells them not what the scripture truly says...
Their are hundreds of glaring unmistakable verses that shows Jesus is not Jehovah. Don't bother.

Many don't even know LORD and GOD capital letters means Yahweh, many among them don't even know that it was English that invented the idea of using capital letter "G" to write God, in the original manuscript it was not so. People who don't understand those basic nuance will come and be arguing, u will be wasting time... There are more than a hundred verse coming from Christ himself and the disciples... But they chose to ignore it .


This is Jesus speaking after he resurrected from grave o telling them he's going to his GOD, and telling the disciples that this GOD is also their GOD....
John 20:17
[17]Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.


Even here Jesus is saying he doesn't know when the trumpet will sound, not even angels knows, not even the Son referring to himself, only the Father which is clearly not him. But Naija Christians believe Christ is the Father.

Mark 13:32
[32]But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.


I am not here to bring any proof because it's really crazy to conclude Jesus is Jehovah when he himself never made that claim ...

Hmmmmmmmm it's well.

jaephoenix:
At least it's better than being a hypocrite

How do you always forget your own words?
Is this how all atheists behave?
Unable to stand by your own words!

jaephoenix:
Bro, maybe I'll stop debating with you. You don't answer questions, but instead deflect it to answer a different question.

Though it's still a deceit but better than lying to people that you are curing blind people miraculously!🤔

paxonel:
Ok ,
Compare this scripture
And this is eternal life: that people can know you, the only true God, and that they can know Jesus Christ, the one you sent. John 17:3
to this one
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
What do you think?
Be objective

Title "GOD" in Hebrew form doesn't have upper or lower case it's the person interpreting to English that will use discretion to differentiate between the Gods in question.
Jesus (the word) was a God in the time he walked the earth just as Moses was a God {Exodus 7:1} that's why Peter liking Jesus to Moses as both prophets had a lot in common.
Both of them were:

*Humans.
*Called "God".
*Without food for 40 days and 40 nights.
*Performed great miracles.
*Served as mediators of covenant.
*Knew God one on one.
*Their corpse were taken away by angels.

In view of these similarities God told the Israelites that He will choose another prophet among them like Moses {Deuteronomy 18:18} and whoever fails to listen to that prophet will be cut off from among the living {Deuteronomy 18:19 compare to John 3:16-18} Peter the apostle confirmed that Jesus of Nazareth is that promised prophet who is to come in the manner of Moses. Act 3:22

So when John wrote his own gospel it was the last book written after the death of all other apostles that book was to remind the Jewish Christians that Jesus is the prophet who served as God just as their God promised to send another prophet/God to them like Moses not that Jesus is the Almighty God!😟