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SpencerForbes:
God has been faithful and I don’t believe I have to go to a physical church to serve him. I can serve him in many ways😎
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WeirdAlien:
Going to church is not synonymous with having good relationship with God.

If you don't believe the Bible it's OK but the title GOD connotes SUPREME BEING there is no way anyone could claim he or she is worshiping God without standing with His worshipers to take your own position among them.
So if you don't assemble with others for worship whatever you are doing indoor is self worship meaning you are worshiping you own self!😟

The topic is misleading!
There are churches in Saudi Arabia but it's worship centers apart from mosques that aren't there.
CHURCH according to the Bible doesn't mean the building but a congregation of worshipers so where two or three gather in the name of Christ Jesus there is a church!

Bigchris01:
You are still writing stories jare, as far as nobody has been to heaven before and nobody has been to hell before all the shalaye nor really add up

So do you believe it when your parents talk about their ancestors?
YES!
Did you see the people they talked about before you believe their stories?
NO!
So why did you believe when you never saw your ancestors before?
Because what they told you makes sense.
That's all!🙂

When people carry credulity on their head instead of faith it's not easy to help such individuals because they will feel it is the same as real faith.
FAITH has substance because you will see certain things that's unusual that will make you believe in God not just saying things because others around you are saying something similar.
Heaven is where spirits lives before some of them rebelled against God and were banished to the earth but as for Hell it means a quiet place where there is no life at all because it's the Grave or final destination of all humans.
God promised to redeem humans from Hell that's what led to all these confusion because the rebellious spirits knew very well they have no future so out of spite they wish all creatures perish along with them that's why they are promoting different schools of thought regarding God.
The only true religion will make perfect sense to any right thinking human if you have never heard anything from false religion so to complicate issues for the common man rebellious spirits are fast spreading misconception so that by the time true religion comes around you will have something to start arguing with the message bearers even though you don't understand what you are saying!🙂

Bigchris01:
Y’all make up all these stories about hell fire and heaven without asking yourselves this following questions:
(1) did any of you knows exactly how you came into
this earth?
(2) who among you have visited heaven and hell before? Who actually confirm that there’s a place called heaven and hell fire?
Before you start talking about the world ending very soon let me remind y’all that this earth you are living in has been existing since 4.54 billion years ago
the oldest person on earth existed between 169yrs

Make una sha. Dey calm down with all these claims nobody actually know where dem Dey go after death.

DiarisGodoo:
So when will this "eternal life on earth" happen? Before or after the raptured? Where will those raptured go?

The highlighted is a misconception and wrong doctrine that's why you can't find that word "RAPTURE" in any version of the Bible, in fact it's real meaning totally negates what the Bible teach.

There won't be any funfair when they are leaving planet because they will go as spirit creatures to join Jesus in heaven therefore it's after they have completed their earthly mission and died that they will go.

So they only know their spiritual status while they are still alive as humans because each of them as been given the invitation which is like a spiritual garment and don't be deceived because they don't tell outsiders their destination only their fellow believers can know. There is a yearly commemoration that helps their fellow worshipers to identify them they are the real born again Christians and outsiders can only notice something in them: they don't value material possessions nor store anything of high value to humans here on earth their lifestyle is so simple that they worth almost nothing in the world!

Expanse2020:
Ok Tell us the authors if you know them

Who are the so called "US"?

Ọmọ if you don't believe what that book says about the inspired writers there's no need to worry yourself after all you know the authors of your Quran!🙂

Ken4Christ:
Don't deviate from these scriptures. Tell me Revelation 19:20 and Revelation 20:10 did not mean what it says.

Funny Churchian!

Does God's word contradicts itself?

Well they will be tormented forever means nobody will remember them for good but each time anyone remembers them their activities will be like torment for anyone who thinks about them.

Those who were drowned in Noah's day are no longer drowning but what comes to mind when we remember them?
It's the fear of drowning when there's no place to run to that fills your mind.

Sodom and Gomorrah no longer burns but what comes to mind when you think of the name of those cities?
It's the fear of fire raining down upon the cities that comes to your mind.

Likewise if survivors living in Paradise remember Satan, demons and evildoers it's the fearful thought of what finally happens to them that will forever comes to your mind.

You can now continue deceiving yourself instead of explaining what God declared to Adam the first human rebel!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Which of the churches is practicing this and which of the churches aren't?🙂

Baptism proves we are truly doing the work Jesus assigned to us because when we preach and teach interested listeners it's only through water baptism they show that they have dedicated their lives to the God whose Kingdom we are preaching to them!🙂

orikoku:
So, someone who doesn’t go to church neither believes in god but he’s good to fellow humans and never commit sins like killings. Will such person make heaven?

God didn't promise human heavenly life what God promised mankind is eternal life on earth {Psalms 37:29; 115:16} it's only few among mankind that will be taken to heaven with the Christ as his corulers {Luke 22:28-30} and there life is not like what we have here because they don't have physical bodies so there is no gender differences therefore nothing like marriage there! Luke 20:34-36

Back to your question:

What happens to nice and kind people who aren't followers of Christ?

Well God promised He will not use the Christ's laws to judge them because they have proved to be fearful of the unknown so it's based on their God's given conscience they will be judged! Romans 2:14-15

But then if you know the true Christians and you can't find a better performing group than them your judgement starts right from the moment you begin to treat them with hostility {Matthew 10:13-15} that's why it's bad treating people badly simply because you notice others also did when you don't have any tangible reason to do so.

God loves everyone equally except those that proved to be wicked {Psalms 9:17} if you are nice and kind start from this moment to be kind and nice to everyone because the true Christians will surely visit you how you treat them really really matters.

May you have peace!

ocnovakmichael:
Read and share this teaching to friends and loved ones

Which of the churches is practicing this and which of the churches aren't?🙂

SeraphEl:
It's true the Hebrew word used is Sheol which can be translated as 'grave' or in some instances hades or hell.

The most correct usage in Eccl 9.10 is grave. Consider the entirety of scripture, we cannot assume doctrines on a single isolated passage. Clearly, Yeshua and NT writers spoke of a literal place called hell prepared for Satan, his angels, unbelievers and unrepentant believers.

Yeshua teaches in PARABLES {Matthew 13:13} so it's whatever you read in the Old Testament that's direct as written but when talking about Yeshua's teachings he said so many things using idioms!

Janosky:
Pastor stop deceiving yourself OR continue LYING .
Gehenna is Jerusalem's incinerator
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He will not find out the truth as God's word admonished believers {1Thessalonians 5:21} what his religious leaders infused in his head comes first instead of the truth! 😟

Expanse2020:
The authors of bible are unknown
The guy didn't lie

As you wish!🙂

Brenbentondiaz:
Nice logic. Written by the Romans. Believed by the Jews and others, who the Romans started killing because they believed what the Romans supposedly wrote, right? And this makes sense to you? Lolz.

When a document becomes so popular and interesting to all class of people it's difficult for a layman to believe that it was written by simple and easygoing individuals so most freethinkers concluded the Bible must have been written by strong and influential people!

blueAgent:
Am very busy now.
I would expose your lies, later.

OK o!😂

blueAgent:
See Lie cool
Is that what God's name means to you an acclaimed Bible scholar?
I can stop laughing
Is obvious you do not know what glory means.
All dis -jointed answers with half scripts cut and join.

Funny Churchian!😂
What God has the strongest army and name than the God of Jehovah's Witnesses?
What is the name of your own Church?

You that doesn't even know angels are sons of God but jumping up and down claiming what God's people never told you.

I know you don't deserve knowledge but the response is for interested followers who wants to know the meaning of each Bible verse you are quoting ignorantly!

blueAgent:
Why do other Angels, do not have God's form, Recieve worship, forgive sin, share the glory of God with God have the name of God in them by Inheritance?

You like muddling things up but for the benefit of interested followers of this thread i will separate the points.

1. All angels have God's form because they are all spirits like God so whatever the Bible say any of them have means all of them have it equally.

2. Nobody receives worship except one person the Almighty God Himself Jesus directed all worship to his father and God. John 20:17

3. Jesus has been chosen to judge {Matthew 28:18} so as the judge he has the right to pardon any accused who shows remorse. Luke 23:43

4. Jesus shared the glory as a spirit son of God who lives in heaven and served as the commander of all the armies in heaven just as the chief of army staff is glorified with the president of your country.

5. All angels have God's name unless the ones who disassociate themselves from God just as Adam had God's name in him as God's Son {Luke 3:38} but lost the glory when he decided to disassociate himself from God that's why the scriptures says:
All (humans) have sinned and fall short of the glory of God {Romans 3:23} this simply means before sin man has God's glory in him.

What else do you want to know?🙂

blueAgent:
You guys are irredeemable.
I hope you know I still have your previous quotes, where you claim Jesus is not the literal son of God?
But a special Angel, a little different from other Angels

Gradually you've run away from your first comment on this thread:

blueAgent:
The same Jesus, you ppl claim is an angel and not the Son of God?
Confused ppl

I asked you:

When did Jehovah's Witnesses tell you that Jesus is not God's Son?

Did God give birth to anyone literally?

Guy, Jesus is also one of the angels (Morning Stars) that's what the scriptures said but he is a special one a little different from other angels that's why he called himself the bright morning star {Revelations 22:16} and of course all angels are morning Stars! Job 38:7

All these angels are spirit creatures and so they are all like God in nature that's why the scriptures says God stands in their congregation and judges among them {Psalms 82:1} but those who failed to remain obedient to the true God among them will die like humans {Psalms 82:6} even though they don't grow old like humans.

So whatever i tell you is boldly written in your own Bible you only need to humble yourself and learn!

Preciousgirl:
1. What is witchcraft?
2. Who are witches?
3. What do they do?
4. How do you know one is a witch?
5. Do they know their end?
Scriptural references will be appreciated, thank you.

1. Spiritism. Deuteronomy 18:10
2. Spiritists. Exodus 7:11
3. They connect with demons for power. 1Samuel 28:7
4. It's really difficult because many are used by demons as they are under a spell so when real witches wants to distract you they cast a spell on an innocent soul to talk and act as if the person is a witch. Genesis 3:1
5. Of course they know that life ends here and there is nothing for them after they die because they have no good record with God! Psalms 9:17

BAILMONEY:
EKA'ARO Max
If this pastors dem convert to Islam finish, who go come dey cook lie for una again

Ẹ káàárọ̀ sà.
There is nothing like title bearing among true Christians so whenever you see anyone attaching a religious title to his name know that such a person is not a Christian!🙂

Meedon:
Does it means that people of other religions won't go to hell?

God is not wicked He's using followers of Christ to educate the world on what we all need to know about Paradise so if you failed to listen to them due to anxiety of life or fear of the unknown He won't judge you based on what the Christians believe but on your own conscience. It's the Jews who knew what the word "Christ" stands for but refused to act on the prophecies written in their book (Old Testament Of The Bible) that are doomed {Matthew 10:14-15} but as for gentiles who don't know what Christ or Messiah means their own judgement will be based on their God's given conscience which could excuse or accuse them! Romans 2:14-15

So judgment starts from knowing what is good but kicking against it! 1Peter 3:10-12 compare to Isaiah 5:20

If you don't know what God calls good but you are struggling to do the good you know he will save you for struggling to do your best but to Him you are part of the UNRIGHTEOUS He will remember when it's time to favor His worshipers whom He has declared RIGHTEOUS! Act 24:15

Jesus told them to go and speak with people in their homes {Matthew 10:11-13} and the theme of their message is: God's Kingdom! Matthew 10:7

Why God's Kingdom?

Because that's what God promised that will bring perfect peace and security to our planet home! Isaiah 9:6-7

So it's after convincing the householder about the good things God's Kingdom will bring that we can now talk about the man chosen to rule as king in the kingdom of God who is Christ Jesus.

Of course any right thinking person will ask for the credentials of this chosen king who will rule not just a portion of the planet as we know today but the entire inhabited earth. That's the time to start talking about all the things Jesus has done back in the first century and today.

But going about telling people to accept Jesus when each person has his or her own religion demeans Christianity!😟

dinomcjohn:
Your Best Decision Ever! Accept Jesus Christ into your life today.

Please and please, if you are reading this and you are yet to surrender your life to Christ Jesus, do so today right now. Tomorrow may be too late.

This is totally unchristian and it's a subtle way the Antichrist is using to attack Christianity!

Imagine an Atheist, Agnostic, Buddhist, Traditionalist, Judaist, Hindu, Muslim or Freethinker who have never been to a place where you people are singing and dancing in the name of Jesus then someone just walk up to him and say:

"Accept Jesus Christ into your life today or surrender your life to Christ Jesus"

How do you think such a person will feel when next he or she meets someone who claims to be a Christian?

Surely he or she will feel they are set of brainwashed people because his first experience with someone who mentioned the name "Jesus" is not something nice to write home about!😟

How did Jesus establish this work we are doing today?

Jesus called his friends who knew him from childhood and told them "be my follower" {Matthew 9:9} these people accepted instantly because they grew up together in the same neighborhood so they knew Jesus to be different from all other children not that he just wake up one day and started calling random people to follow him.

The next thing he did was to start saying: "repent for the kingdom of God is near" {Matthew 4:17} all his friends were Jews and they knew what their God promised their ancestors about a child who will be born among them to rule the whole earth {Isaiah 9:6} so hearing Jesus say that isn't strange to them but then the question in their hearts is "could Jesus be the promised child or Messiah?" they didn't ask him until they say him performing the greatest miracles in the history of God's people:
*Jesus made food in abundance! John 6:10-13 compare to Psalms 72:16
*Jesus healed the deaf and dumb! Mark 7:31-35 compare to Isaiah 35:6
*Jesus healed the crippled! Matthew 9:2-8 compare to Isaiah 35:6
*Jesus raised the dead! John 11:44-45 compare to Isaiah 25:8

With all these Jesus' friends were fully convinced that he is the Christ! Matthew 16:13-16

But how did he tell them to preach the same message to their neighbors?

CaseSensitive:
I'm certainly not doing this “Do you believe in God?” merry-go-round. You lack substance and I’m not here to play theology tennis. You've made your pitch, I'm not buying. All the best with your ministry.

You can run away but the truth remains that the true God has proved Himself by organizing people from different nations throughout the world to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers as He promised in the Bible! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
In fact He said they will speak the same spiritual language of peace among themselves! Zephaniah 3:9
What most people like you lack is humility as you just want to do whatever you like and never ready to reason with your neighbor on how to cohabit peacefully.
God has achieved that among His true worshipers today called Jehovah's Witnesses some 2,000 years ago when Jesus of Nazareth commissioned this movement he didn't give them any name so the Jews mockingly calls them "The Way" later observers in Antioch another ancient city used to call them "CHRISTIANS" but God didn't reveal the name He wants to give His own worshipers until our time, He allowed Satan's agents to bear the flag claiming they are Christians and causing trouble everywhere they go until He was able to gather obedient humans and form a global organization of peaceful people it's then the true God declared the name He had in mind for thousands of years for His worshipers:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 43:10; 65:15
May you have peace!🙂

Olaide1295:
And it being done does not make it right. Simple civility tells us to respect other people and rights to peaceful living.
Preaching on the road may be fair because at least people have a choice to leave if uncomfortable. But being in a confined space like a bus, and being forced to listen to preaching is disrespectful and uncomfortable.
Imagine someone farting/eating locust beans food on a confined bus (and saying it's not against the law)....it's not truly, but it's not civil.

Is preaching accepted in the BRT?

Janosky:
Oga,according to the pronouncement of Yahweh @Genesis 3:19, is Adam serving "eternal punishment?"
Where is Adam serving eternal punishment?

I've asked him the same question several times he said you shouldn't have to feel concern for Adam but yourself when he knows there is no sense in what he is saying.
The fear his church fathers instilled in the minds of gullible people in times past is what he thinks will scare people who have all the scriptural knowledge of life and death in the jet age!😂

ogascomax:
Go on YouTube and search preaching in a bus or a train and see for yourself.

Those noisemakers aren't doing it for the Lord Jesus because the preaching and teaching work has RULES that we must adhere to strictly so as not to constitute public nuisance and accusing Jesus as the one behind such nonsense!😟

ogascomax:
Read the story that connect to this verse

Guy in that verse Jesus was relating a parable not giving a command to his disciples o!

On hearing these things, one of the fellow guests said to him: “Happy is the one who dines in the Kingdom of God.”  Jesus said to him: “A man was spreading a grand evening meal, and he invited many. He sent his slave out at the hour of the evening meal to say to the invited ones, ‘Come, because everything is now ready.’  But they all alike began to make excuses. The first said to him, ‘I bought a field and need to go out and see it; I ask you, have me excused.’ And another said, ‘I bought five yoke of cattle and am going to examine them; I ask you, have me excused.’ Still another said, ‘I just got married, and for this reason I cannot come.’ So the slave came and reported these things to his master. Then the master of the house became angry and said to his slave, ‘Go out quickly to the main streets and the alleys of the city, and bring in here the poor and crippled and blind and lame.’ In time the slave said, ‘Master, what you ordered has been done, and still there is room.’  So the master said to the slave, ‘Go out to the roads and the lanes and compel them to come in, so that my house may be filled.  For I say to you, none of those men who were invited will taste my evening meal.’” Luke 14:15-24

Here is the full story.

So was Jesus giving orders to his disciples here?😟

ogascomax:
New International Version Luke 14:23
“Then the master told his servant, ‘Go out to the roads and country lanes and compel them to come in, so that my house will be full.
You are just quoting scripture wrongly and you don't even understand what that means. Jesus that most of is engagement was on the street. The disciples after him was on the street. He never made going to people's home as the standard. You can preach to people in whatever way that is available to you. A journey of 10 minutes with 50 people it's impossible to do one on one. The easiest way is to talk to them all.

Is the highlighted a direction from Jesus regarding how to preach or a parable?😟

Jesus commissioned the one on one preaching and teaching because he knew interested ones will ask questions that his disciples needs to answer.

That's the sense behind the one on one preaching but when you are making noise in the neighborhood nobody dare ask you any questions because it doesn't make any sense.
Before the time of Jesus God's prophets were sent like town criers because the nation have the same laws given by their God and King but by the time of John the baptist Israelites weren't on their own anymore they were under Roman government so anyone disturbing the streets with noise will be arrested by the Roman armies as one constituting nuisance that's why John the baptist who served as forerunner before the Christ had to shout not within their streets but in the wilderness! John 1:23 compare to Isaiah 40:3

This is not arguable because it's what we can prove with the scriptures noise pollution is unchristian!😟

BAILMONEY:
ARE YOU SURE

Is it not?😟

ogascomax:
That place is not a library and there is no law that says you cannot do that. Stopping acting like the white don't even do such things. You tears is because it's coming from someone of colour.

Of course there is a law against making noise or disturbing people with unwanted noise.

It's the law Jesus himself set as example {Galatians 6:2} the scriptures said about him:

"Look! My servant whom I chose, my beloved, whom I have approved! I will put my spirit upon him, and what justice is he will make clear to the nations. He will not quarrel nor cry aloud, nor will anyone hear his voice in the main streets. No bruised reed will he crush, and no smoldering wick will he extinguish, until he brings justice with success.  Indeed, in his name nations will hope.” Matthew 12:18-21

So according to the law of Christ himself disturbing people with noise when they haven't given you the permission to speak is wrong.
That's why Jesus commanded his disciples to approach people in their homes so you may ask for permission before speaking! Matthew 10:11-13