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Steep:
Or Lazarus to be in the bosom of Abraham, it showed that he has the same faith as Abraham while the rich man only cared for himself living in pleasure while Lazarus at his gate suffered.

Lazarus DESIRE what is falling from the rich man's table {Luke 16:21} so the illustration has a totally different meaning!

Steep:
Paul would be part of the first resurrection.

Well Paul also said:
...those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. 1Thessalonians 4:16
Then goes on to say:
Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air. 1Thessalonians 4:17
So when did Mark of the beast occurred and Paul refused to accept it?😟

Steep:
So where does it say they have paid for their sin? Do you know the meaning of pay and free?

If someone is owing and they said he is freed (KJV) or acquitted (NWT) please can you use another English?😟

Please check other translations if this is difficult!

Steep:
In Luke 16:23 Jesus described hell as a real place where dead souls are, remember in all of Jesus parable he used real things that truly take place to illustrate his teachings. Jesus description of hell goes beyond the physical into the spiritual dimension.

According to the illustration what GOOD did Lazarus do and what evil did the rich man commit?
When did this Lazarus lived?
Is it during Moses's or Jesus' times?

Steep:
According to Revelation 20, the first resurrection is for people who were killed for not accepting the mark of the beast but The rest of the dead did not live until after the 1000 years was over.

Is Paul also part of them?

Steep:
Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The second resurrection took place before the judgment seat of God.
And By the way were is it written that those who have died have paid for their sins?

For the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin. ‭Romans 6:7 NWT

because anyone who has died has been set free from sin. ‭Romans 6:7 NIV‬

For he that is dead is freed from sin. Romans 6:7 KJV

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jflower06:
They have regrouped, and re- aligned. You can only see them performing on the ALTER in the CHURCHES now..NOT ON STAGES ANYMORE

So they no longer perform on stage for stipends but on church altars for TITHE!

Steep:
If the dead has already paid for their sins how come the dead are raised again to face Judgement.
Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
They were judged according to what they had done, if by dieing their sins have already be paid for why will God raise them again to face Judgement

These are the RIGHTEOUS and the UNRIGHTEOUS that will be resurrected! Act 24:15

RIGHTEOUS: people God declared righteous because they lived by His laws which they learned before Jesus came. They are declared righteous based on the way they observed God's word but they are not qualified for everlasting life yet because they haven't accepted the truth that leads to everlasting life from Jesus so during Christ's thousand years reign they have to prove they believe in Jesus by practicing what they learned from the Christians before they can have everlasting life.

UNRIGHTEOUS: people who don't know God's laws but lived by conscience so God didn't declare them righteous but He will show them mercy by raising them back to life {Romans 2:14-15} so after learning about Jesus during his thousand years reign they must prove their stand in what they learned.

These two set will be judged not by the things they did before their former death because those sins has been paid for by their death but by the things they choose to do after learning about Jesus.

WICKED: these are people who don't care about God so they does wicked things as they don't fear God or care so they have paid for their sins with their death and never to be remembered for resurrection! Psalms 9:17

In the early 1970s until late 1980s we do watch magicians life on TV shows but at the beginning of the 1990s these people disappeared as if the spirits behind their magical practices have resigned repented.
Please can anyone explain what actually happened to our magicians in the 1970s and 1980s? 2Corinthians 11:14🤔

Steep:
why then did scripture say God will judge the living and the dead? If the dead has already paid for their sins?

That means the living (believers) and the dead (unbelievers) who are alive not those who have already paid for their sins at death.
Remember Jesus clarified that only his disciples are living while all others are dead so by the time God's Kingdom comes both his disciples (living) and unbelievers (dead) will have to face their judgement that's why Jesus said the rest of the dead (unbelievers) didn't come to life until the 1,000 years {Revelations 20:5} it's after Christ's thousand years reign that we will know those to be given everlasting life {Revelations 21:3-4} untill then even though we will no longer grow old during Christ's 1,000 years reign whoever has not believe Jesus is still on his or her way to destruction! Isaiah 65:20

While serving his god a so called "prophet" lost all his male children and later died leaving only a female child who later died about six months later.
Perhaps that's what this man doesn't want to experience!

You must have had opportunities with the true Christians but turn deaf ears to them on their visits {Matthew 10:14} so if you truly love God not just the religion of your parents then keep on reading the Bible and beg God, tell Him you want to worship Him acceptably {Act 10:2} He will send His prophets to help you anywhere you are! Act 8:29

Steep:
No the writer was speaking base on the perspective of life under the Sun from the perspective of the early life, the dead has no, reward, no knowledge, and can't participate in anything.
Remember the writer said the dead has no more reward ecc. 9.5 that is in the perspective of rewards in this life.

In line with Ecclesiastes 9:5 Paul said the dead has paid for all their sins {Romans 6:7} because the only punishment God is giving the sinner is death {Romans 6:23} so as humans we are all dead going by Jesus' perspective {Luke 9:60} but whoever believes in Jesus has gotten himself or herself another opportunity to live again in Paradise! Luke 23:43

So all dead people are gone for good if they have no business with God! Psalms 9:17

Image123:
@ Bloomsvilledgit. Don't be too hard on yourself to hurt yourself, okay? Be humble, take to correction, forgive yourself and move on. Humility includes ability to say sorry and accept that you made a mistake. You make better profit by being accountable for your mistakes.
Trust God and His word, not human being(above humans). God didn't fail you, He didn't promise to come on September 23 or 24, but suddenly, like a thief in the night. Kindly don't allow yourself to be deceived by man or dream again. God's word supersedes everything.

So most of you claiming born again have not been RAPTURED with this guy?😟

Na wah o!

thepathoflogos:
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Jesus didn’t give us a fixed timetable for fasting, but notice He said “when you fast…” (Matt 6:16), not “if you fast.” That shows He expected His followers to do it — but from the right heart, not as a ritual.

Also, fasting in Scripture was always more than just skipping meals. David said, “I humbled myself with fasting” (Ps 35:13), and in Acts 13:2-3, the early church fasted and prayed before making major decisions. It’s a spiritual exercise, not just a hunger strike.

So yes, you may go without food for 4 hours, but Biblical fasting adds prayer, repentance, and seeking God’s face (Joel 2:12) — that’s what makes it powerful and different from just missing breakfast

If you have 4 bags of rice in your house stored up for only your family and you gave 1 out to a fellow believer who has nothing to feed his family that makes the bags remains 3 according to Isaiah 58 you have fasted!

AngelahFlo:
What does the highlighted and bolded say about Christianity in your own words? Christianity is a lifestyle. A lifestyle of living a Christ-like life.
The sooner you grasp this truth it becomes easy. There's a form of Christianity being practiced in the world and touted as religion. This is what makes the concept of true Christianity deviate from what it really is. I rest my case.

Jesus gave his disciples an assignment it's only those earnestly doing it that are Christians it's not about a way of life because everyone has a way of life that you have nothing to judge when they do their best but it's only the assignment Jesus gave his disciples that makes the difference because whoever is not engaged in that activity will not be saved!

annyplenty:
QUESTION OF THE DAY
What is the difference between rapture and the second coming of Jesus?

The word "RAPTURE" is never found in any version of the Bible because it's true meaning is unscriptural!

Rapture when used in farming means a farmer is reaping what he sow on his farmland but talking of living creatures the meaning is unscriptural because the living creatures should be aware of their movement since they know the destination they belong to. So the dictionary linked rapture to RAPE since the persons to be raptured are forcefully taken without their consent.

So that word is wrong because only born again Christians are to be taken along with Jesus and they already know they are going with Christ it's only the day they will be taken that it's revealed to them.

If you mean the taking up of God's sons of course the Born Again Christians will be taken away from this planet when the world is still going about with their merriments but note one thing:

It's the dead in Christ (dead and buried born again Christians) that will be taken at the sound of the trumpet not living ones {1Thessalonians 4:16} because each of them must complete their earthly mission by enduring all the pains Satan intends to inflict on them till their last breath {Revelations 12:11} as brothers of the Christ each of them must complete his test just as Jesus completed his own and said:

"It is finished" John 19:30

It's after enduring to the last of their breath that they can have the crown to rule with Christ Jesus in heaven! Matthew 20:22-23

So they aren't going the same time only the dead among born again Christians will be taken to heaven the same time!

Psalmcomng:
What do you think? Is the solution avoiding denomination completely, or learning how to remain united in Christ despite denominational differences?

The word DENOMINATION is what Satan is using to blur the sense of many people making them feel comfortable with false religions in the name of "Christians"
If identifying the only true religion is not important Jesus won't use different illustrations to emphasize on the reasons why we need to know the true Christian group.
For your information worshipers of demons have changed their tags just like the spirits behind the religions also disguised {2Corinthians 11:14} to confuse interested persons and make them loose sight of the truth about Christ. 2Corinthians 4:4
Please don't be deceived there is nothing called "DENOMINATIONS" in Christ if it's not Christianity it can never ever perform like true Christians! Matthew 7:16-18

AntiChristian:
If you say Enoch and Elijah didn't die then Hebrew 9:27, Ecclesiastes 9:2 and James 4:14 all say humans will die at least once. So all will die even if the Bible failed to record their deaths!
Only humans die not Gods! Gods don't turn human! God don't lie!

Atimes i love your envy as you tolerate no rivalry for truth but Islam will always render you enthusiasm futile because Islam in itself is incomplete.

Well those Bible verses you quoted aren't direct enough to expose the lies in what the other man said you should have used the Bible book of Romans 3:23 and 5:12

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23

That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned. Romans 5:12

So if all humans are sinners and death is what death brings {Romans 6:23} because we all came through Adam and none of us worths being glorified as immotals this simply means Enoch and Elijah both died it's just that inspired Bible writers didn't record their death!

The word "DENOMINATION" is a satanic tag to confuse unbelievers into thinking there could be more than one religion in Christianity.
According to Jesus his friends (disciples) must all believe and do things the same way {Matthew 7:13-14} because they have the same line of thought {John 17:22} that's what his real disciples believe and impressed in the minds of anyone who wants to be part of the movement! 1Corinthans 1:10; Ephesians 4:3; 1Peter 3:8
Satan used tactics to initiate different sects (religions) and introduced them to unbelievers so as to blur their senses not to identify the true Christians but the true God who will destroy evildoers has promised to separate His own people out of those false religions claiming Christians because the name "CHRISTIANS" in itself is not what God intend to give His worshipers so after Satan has blinded so many people throughout the world {2Corinthians 4:4} to carry the group name "Christians" on their head whereas they aren't doing the work Christ assigned to his disciples God waited for centuries before giving His own worshipers another group name:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

That's the one and only true Christian organization throughout the world if you care to know!

So when talking about marriage the true Christians only marry among their fellow believers {1Corinthans 7:39} that is what God commanded His worshipers from time immemorial! Genesis 24:2-3; Deuteronomy 7:3-4; Nehemiah 13:25-26; 2Corinthians 6:14

samuelsmart1:
Omo......This isn't funny at all ooo.......it might be that they were correct (and i'm not saying they are right either) but 2 peter 3:9 says "The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise, but is patient, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.".
I guess i'd leave you to ruminate on that👌

It's the funniest thing ever!
Jesus clearly stated that the day he will come and take away his bride even the bride themselves can't figure it out {Matthew 25:1-3} because it will occur as a thief that strikes at night time. 1Thessalonians 5:2

So if the bride (real born again Christians) can't know the day and hour but keep on watching how do you think a random person could announce so that even the unbelievers throughout the world now know the date?

Politicians and God's Kingdom!

So what happened to Dare?

You people don't know this man's way of sending out funny messages.

What he is implying is that any member who decides to live his church will loose their first child, he doesn't know what else to say to keep his gullible followers anymore after other so called "pastors" have reduced him to nothing.

So he is threatening members not leave his church!

What is the name of the church that said this thing at least let people know which church teaches this!

What is the name of the church that said it at least let's know the name of that church!

Bloomsvilledgit:
The day is finally here. Let's be ready

Bye bye, at least you won't come back to disturb Nairalanders with your RAPTURE this Rapture that!

Segzy19:
You do not seem like an interested listener.
That's why I have committed you into God's hands. I can't deal with you except God himself does..

Interested when you don't know what you are saying bah?

Ọmọ nah me supposed to teach you if anyone should teach here!

Segzy19:
You will never understand these things except God himself opens your heart. Many unbelievers like you and others that are harder than you have asked all these questions you are asking but they surrendered and started serving JESUS in the end. That's what will happen to you too.

The highlighted is a big lie, if that's the case then it means whoever doesn't understand is God's fault not the person!

Jesus sent his real disciples out to teach interested listeners so they can understand!

Segzy19:
That was Jesus expressing his human side. He felt pain, and cried like we all do... He came in human form. So he had to express himself as a human as well....

Fully understood but that's not the point of discuss.
If dead believers are going to be with Jesus at death then why didn't Jesus tell his friends that Lazarus is with him instead of raising him back to life?

Psalmcomng:
Peer pressure is real in Nigeria, especially with friends who try to make you feel old fashioned because you won’t join them in certain lifestyles.


The key is to build strong convictions from God’s Word and surround yourself with the right community.


When your roots are deep, you won’t easily bend. I broke this down here:

https://www.psalm.com.ng/Overcome-temptation-Young-Christian


How do you personally handle pressure from friends who mock your faith?

The highlighted is what Jesus has solved for his disciples by assuring them that they are surrounded by families who share the same line of thought with them {Matthew 12:46-50} so my fellow believers are the right community i have around me {Act 1:8} just as the scriptures says!

Since nobody knows the name of your church it's OK i just hope no one comes to say this one is a JW!

There is nothing worthwhile in speaking a language which your neighbor doesn't understands yet you keep speaking just to prove you speak jargons!