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RightChanneI:
The fruit(s) your organization is producing shows you're not on the ge nu ine path!

Just as Jesus produced fruit and Pharisees said he belongs to Satan shey? Matthew 10:24-25

Your own church you dey hide because there is nothing to show for your faith:

Nevertheless, someone will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” James 2:18

Testimony full everywhere that only JWs are doing God's will today!

RightChannel:
So you think all churches are like your kingdom hall right?

Ọmọ apart from Jehovah's Witnesses no religion stands the test of time that Jesus said we will all see in the midst of his true disciples so if not JWs there is no true church!

cutecommend:
Speaking in tongues recklessly; whether at home, in church, while leading prayers e.t.c is not good. You should speak in tongues rightly, always, but not frivolously.

This alone has shown that you people are confused with this deceptive spirit as you can't mention the name of any church where this your spirit is actually working out something worthwhile!

RightChannel:
And that's why by this fruit we can vividly say what you are doing at your organization is falsehood!

Hilarious!

You don't even know what FRUIT means yet you want to argue!

RightChannel:
If it is you or your second, in your JWs, did you give room for Holy Spirit to operate in you while inside hall for meeting or what did you called your gathering inside hall?

Everyone knows JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, our mode of operation and the fruit we produce.
Can you mention the name of any church that you can vouch for as having the Holy Spirit operating in their midst?

NO!

Even your own church sef you no fit talk am because all of unah no get anything worthy to present!

RightChannel:
I said you will know the genuine spirit of God from satanic spirit if you allow Holy Spirit to fully take control of your life!

Continue deceiving yourself!

Jesus said it's by the FRUIT each religion produce that sincere observers will know the difference between falsehood and truth! Matthew 7:16-18

RightChannel:
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And you don't know what it means by Paul laying his hands on the people right? Indeed Holy Spirit is working in your organization!

Funny Churchian!
Come on, laying hands on people to make them do God's will for the whole world to testify that God's holy spirit is real among believers not some deceitful lying spirit that's not making any sense!

See testimony:

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!

Oye0404:
well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..

XXLDICK:
They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination.
They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite.
Cons:
They do not recite the national anthem.
They do not participate in elections.
They do not accept blood transfusion.

freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.

boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

RightChannel:
Did you give room for Holy Spirit to operate in you Jws members?

That's the one and only organization the holy spirit is working with if we are to go by what Jesus himself said {Matthew 7:16-18} and talking about love among brothers in faith globally! John 13:34-35

Stop deceiving yourself with false spirits that's of no practical benefits to you and your folks!

RightChannel:
I said earlier give room for Holy Spirit to operate in your life. If you are one of those gather inside kingdom hall, ask your leaders why is Holy Spirit not allow in the member's lives?

Funny Churchian!

Jesus said:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 5:14-16
What about the Holy Spirit?
Paul said it's fruit has nine qualities! Galatians 5:22-23

And Jesus said by the fruit of each religion observers will know where they truly belongs! Matthew 7:16-18

See the WORKS of God's Holy Spirit in the hall of Jehovah's Witnesses:

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!

Oye0404:
well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..

XXLDICK:
They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination.
They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite.
Cons:
They do not recite the national anthem.
They do not participate in elections.
They do not accept blood transfusion.

freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.

boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

RightChannel:
You still haven't answer my question, I asked as at the time Paul layed his hands upon them, what was he doing? Is he praying, singing or dancing?

“I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll." Revelations 22:18-19🙂

RightChannel:
As at the time he layed his hand on them, he was praying after then they received Holy Spirit. Peter and John in Acts 8:17 did the same.

You have no excuse there is nothing like praying in tongues and apostle Paul has condemned it because it doesn't add up!

RightChannel:
At the moment when he layed his hands on them, what is Apostle Paul doing? Maybe he was singing right?

The Bible did not say, let's leave that as something not revealed but as for what is written no one prayed in tongue that is why Paul was correcting people who thought presumptuously saying jargons could be approved after all they can say it's praying and praying is part of worship in Christianity!

RightChannel:
Paul that layed his hands on them, is he singing if not praying at that moment?

The Bible didn't say he was praying all what he needs to do is LAY HIS HAND ON THEM!
Please stop adding to God's word speak differs from pray that's why Paul is telling them that they need to know the purpose of praying because when others don't understand what you are saying then it is futile and they are justified if they choose not to say "amen"😟

Dtruthspeaker:
Wrong
Polygamy was not permitted but was the way of man's living since men had grown to love evil and do polygamy as Cain's grandson had shown them.
So, it is a case of that the whole world was engaged and practicing polygamy exactly how they practice paganism which no one says was permitted

Is incest approved by the mosaic law?
Who did Cain marry?

My own response:
God permitted incest because Adam's children must reproduce before having to fill the earth but after the earth has been filled with families God told his worshipers not to practice it anymore. But in God's law it's abominable for children born by the same mother to have sex.

Did God's word approve prostitution and adultery?
Was Judah's child with Tamar approved under the mosaic law?

My response:
God permitted it because Judah wanted to send the girl away since his two sons died while trying to raise children through Tamar. But in God's law it is forbidden for a man to have sex with his own daughter in-law.

So there are certain things God permitted until the law came therefore anyone who committed such ignorantly is not judged until the law forbids it.
Polygamy was permitted until the Christ told us that it wasn't what God purposed in the beginning!

"Judge not" says Jesus! Matthew 7:1

RightChannel:
Paul that layed his hands on people, after that the Holy sprit came upon them and they began to SPEAK in tongues, prophesied will called the Spirit of God

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Is that the meaning you gave to Act 19:6 inside your hall?

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For turning Bible upside down?

Paul laid his hand and they SPOKE not pray in tongues!

AntiChristian:
Is that your business?
It's none of my business!

I wonder why you keep on disturbing the other religion section if members of your own religion aren't also doing things right and most shocking is you are aware of it but choose to look elsewhere!😟

Getting banned is a sign that you aren't using the right words so calm down and use words that's not offensive if you can!😟

Social media influencers have caused so much confusion o!😟

RightChannel:
Are you still confused?? 🤔

Guy praying in tongues is nonsense that is what Paul is saying and no believer did that in the first century except those who are presumptuous so Paul is using that letter to correct the misconception!

Reread Paul's letter again but this time meditate on what he said not just quoting simply because you want to make it appear like he approved it.

God will destroy your body and soul in the grave when you render the type of judgement that you are also guilty of.

So think well before uttering out words of judgement against your fellow human because it's your own standard that God will use to judge you! Matthew 7:1-4😟

kppo:
Speaking in tongues and praying in tongues are referring to the same thing as you can see in the Bible passages below:

[[1 Corinthians 14:2 KJV]] For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

[[1 Corinthians 14:14-15 KJV]] 14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.

Just quote where they PRAY in tongue.
Thank you!

immortalcrown:
Many donate of you donate millions to build a church or to build a house for pastors while your well-behaved brothers or cousins are homeless. What do you have to say about this?

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses we don't build house for anyone in the name of "PASTOR" but when it comes to things having to do with pure worship apart from our immediate family others aren't our responsibility surely we can be generous towards them but not over what is necessary to do in God's house.

immortalcrown:
Giving your cousin or brother shelter in your house or feeding them is not generosity. Building a house for your cousin or brother is generosity. Many donate of you donate millions to build a church or to build a house for pastors while your well-behaved brothers or cousins are homeless.

Apart from your parents, children and wife others are EXTENDED families who are not your responsibility they are not as important as members of the faith! Matthew 12:46-50; Galatians 6:10

RightChannel:
Acts 19:6
And when Paul laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.
Is this verse and many others I gave you previously missing inside your own Bible, I thought you said to be a Christian?

Is speaking the same as praying?

Deepspirituals:
when he came first time ,He Didn't Kill anyone ..

YES!

Benbellamor:
you have not said anything.

It's OK, i only expressed my own views so if you are not convinced there's no need to continue arguing.
I believe we are going to Paradise where we will live forever as youths without growing old or thinking about death like God purposed for Adam and Eve in the beginning so if any woman will be willing to share you with another woman i wish you well with polygamy if it will work in the new world.

Cheers!

IfyBioTv:
**Question for you:** Do you think many Christians today are substituting church activities for true relationship with God?

Relationship with God begins with doing the work Jesus commissioned which is PREACHING and TEACHING people around you about the message of God's Kingdom {Matthew 10:11-13} this is the primary assignment given to all disciples of Christ Jesus {Matthew 28:18-20} and it's by doing this work that people in your neighborhood can see that we are WITNESSES to the fact that Christ came to establish a message which should be taken to the ends of the earth! Act 1:8

That is what it means to BELIEVE in Jesus {John 3:16} not gathering people to make money through followers on social media!

Selman is only gathering people to make money he is not leading them to go and preach to their neighbors at home just as Jesus our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus laid down! Matthew 4:17

So Mr Selman himself is not even a Christian according to what Jesus taught in the Bible but a false prophet whose fruit (followers) aren't doing the work Jesus assigned to his disciples! Matthew 7:16-18

How did Paul's teachings now become central to Christianity?

Jesus answered this question!

In an illustration Jesus said:


“The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come. “Then he sent some more servants and said, ‘Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.’ “But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. “Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. So go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’ So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, the bad as well as the good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests. “But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. He asked, ‘How did you get in here without wedding clothes, friend?’ The man was speechless. “Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ “For many are invited, but few are chosen.” ‭Matthew 22:2-14 NIV‬


The Jews lost the glory given to their city when they rejected the Christ and condemned him before a Roman governor who washed his hands telling them he is no part of the killing of an innocent soul {Matthew 27:24-25} from that very moment the blessings that comes with Abrahamic faith was taken away from the Jews and given to Christianity {Matthew 21:43} as regards their city (Jerusalem) God abandoned it for them! Matthew 23:37-38

After three decades the Romans came to Jerusalem, destroyed the city, killed Jews in millions and destroyed their temple which they thought God will stop enemy nations from destroying because they failed to realize that the death and resurrection of Jesus means a new temple has been raised {John 2:19-22} which is not about bricks but faith in the Christ. By the time Jerusalem and her temple got destroyed faith in Christ continues among the gentile nations and who established those churches among the gentiles?
It's none other than our beloved apostle Paul. 2Peter 3:15
So that's how Paul's teachings became the central since he established the churches outside Jerusalem which continues after the Jews lost their city and glory!

May you have peace!

22jumpstreet:
Jesus: “I will judge you by your works.”

Paul: “I hate the law, so works mean nothing.”

You misconstrued the whole thing!

Jesus' audience were Jews living in Judea {Matthew 10:6 compare to Matthew 15:24} while Paul's audience were mainly Judaists from other nations {Romans 11:13; 1Timothy2:7} what Jesus said about the law will make his listeners understood that without a careful study of Mosaic laws (inside which prophecies about the Christ are numerous) they can't grasp what he is doing. Luke 24:27
So wise ones among the Jews discovered many things after careful study of what is written in the laws regarding the Christ {Matthew 2:17-18; 12:17-21; John 2:17} while unwise ones just followed their religious leaders who misled them due to envy that Jesus was gaining attention. Matthew 15:14

So Paul's audience who mostly former Judaists thought it's by continuing with Judaism that they can gain God's approval needs to know that the laws have finished it's purpose after the arrival of the Christ {Romans 10:4} Jews who still believe that practicing what the laws say must continue are lost because Moses himself told them that the laws will lead them to someone who will tell them what they need to gain salvation! Deuteronomy 18:18-19
So Jews hinging on the mosaic laws after Christ are still running after the prize has been given to winners because Christ is the major reason why God gave that nation the laws for them to identify him and learn the Way to holiness {Isaiah 35:8} which the law can't give them! Jeremiah 31:31-34

immortalcrown:
You are the one to answer the question since you claim that the church is the first place where generosity should take place.

Taking care of your own family is not generosity but responsibility.

Benbellamor:
you're trying to change topic....stop derailing this thread.....I have TRASHED your digression
Question is was Paul a monogamist? Yes or no Answer

Ọmọ it's God's word i quoted for you so you are free to TRASH it at least you have seen what it says about Christianity!