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Truthseeker10:
Your evolution people do not agree that modern man evolved alongside the apes.

Let them continue to deceive themselves whether Creationists or Evolutionists both believe what they never saw how it really happened so the only difference is while one can makes its adherents happy and appreciate life the other makes its adherents feel worthless and wish they never existed!

alanto:
Everyday scientists discover biblical archaeological evidence, other time it's human fossil that confirms human evolve from APES.

All these have me wondering; what exactly are we supposed to believe?

Eve or Lucy?

The word BELIEVE connotes TRUST so it'll make sense to be certain of what you intend to trust but how can you have trust in what you can't visibly verify how it happened?

The Bible defines Faith as the assured expectations of things hoped for the evident demonstration of reality though not seen. Hebrews 11:1

This means one who has faith can explain why he believes and demonstrate it for everyone to see what he is saying even though no one can see it's beginning.

Evolutionists only say things that's of no practical benefits to mankind rather it's putting humans in more trouble while Creationists though are difficult to identify in the midst of thousands claiming they are Creationists but if you engage real Creationists you will be happy to be alive!

annyplenty:
There will not be the second flight! Never miss the rapture for any reason!

Faith differs from Credulity if you don't know that's the absolute truth for you!

The wicked aren’t always “favored,” they’re just smart.
The righteous aren’t always “oppressed,” they’re just passive.

This really amuse me but since you have figured out everything by yourself i think there's no need for further discussion!

RightChannel:
With the use of Encyclopedia, Wikipedia or Google you are now ro man cing with, what is the meaning 0f Church?


YOU ARE REALLY TRYING HARD TO SHIFT THE GOAL POST BY AVOIDING THESE TWO LOVELY QUESTIONS!


1. Is "upon this rock I will build my church" an idiomatic phrase?

2. Where is your HALL found in Bible unlike the word Church that is read from the Bible?

Next time don't jump into a discussion that you know nothing about, this isn't about give and take where you are waiting to throw insults here and there.

Learn to be humble, the word CHURCH according to God's word means CONGREGATION not a building.

Cheers!

dpmusictutors:
I’d love to hear your thoughts, experiences, or even doubts. Let’s keep it respectful but real.

First of all we need to know why miracles do happen in Bible times before we can now think what's happening in our time.

No one can compell God for miracles to happen it's only when necessary that He steps in to rescue His worshipers.

Now note that it's only when it involves His worshipers that God do act that's why God said to Moses:


“See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet."
Exodus 7:1 NIV

This means at the utterances of Moses ‬supernatural things will happen and this is the first time ever that God will bestow this type of authority on a human so Moses became the first man ever to perform miracles.

But why did God empower this man so much that God Himself referred to Moses as God?
Well it's because the situation warrants performing miracles to prove that God the Almighty is behind the mission Moses embarked on which is rescuing the descendants of Jacob from the land of Egypt the world's most powerful nation of the time so it's not going to be easy asking the Egyptian king to release his slaves just like that.

Afterwards God continues to empower many Isrealites to perform miracles until the time Jesus walked the earth and it's Jesus who later revealed to us that miracles from God is only restricted to the Israelites and not to be given to any other nations! Matthew 15:24-28

In that event Jesus made it clear that it's only the Israelites that God reserved that gift for so there was never a single person outside Israel who was given the authority to perform miracles whether before or after Christ!

Today what do we have?

I will continue if you want me to!

RightChanneI:
The last time I recommended for you dictionary and google after you said Church ONLY means gathering, you condemned it. Is it not the same google you are now ro man cing with, who need knowledge between you and I?
Jesus said upon this rock I will build my Church. Let me now refer you back to encyclopedia, wikipedia, google and dictionary for the meaning of rock.
Jesus used rock in Mathews 16:18 because of the solidify and strongest of this so that the gate of hell shall not prevail against it!
A house built on a stable rock foundation is stronger and more durable than one built on ground like sand
YOU ARE REALLY TRYING HARD TO SHIFT THE GOAL POST BY AVOIDING THESE TWO LOVELY QUESTIONS!
1. Is "upon this rock I will build my church" an idiomatic phrase?
2. Where is your HALL found in Bible unlike the word Church that is read from the Bible?

Church according to God's word means congregation not building that's what you have been running around for since and i'm ready to prove it to you that you are wrong!

This is what Jesus said:

And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. Matthew 16:18 NIV‬


Peter means ROCK so Jesus is building his congregation on the immovable faith of this apostle not a building stationed in a location.

Which church did Jesus build afterwards if not congregations built on Peter's unshakable faith?

First of all Jesus asked a question that's confusing to most people who knew him in the first century {Matthew 16:13} the response of his disciples shows there is lot of misconceptions regarding Jesus' real identity {Matthew 16:14} so Jesus now directed the question to his disciples {Matthew 16:15} at that Peter said:


“You are the Messiah (Christ), the Son of the living God.”
Matthew 16:16 NIV‬

So Peter the Rock gave a perfect answer that's why Jesus said it's on that platform he will build his congregation meaning whoever wants to become a believer in Christ must accept that Jesus is the Christ the only begotten Son of God not that he is building a worship center o!

RightChanneI:
So you haven't see a house built on the rock before right? Guy, check your cerebellum!
Is "upon this rock I will build my church" an idiomatic phrase?

Obviously you don't have knowledge and at the same time not humble to learn.

Check Encyclopedia, Wikipedia or Google for the meaning of that word PETER before thinking of how to argue what you don't know!

RightChannel:
Is "upon this rock I will build my church" an idiomatic phrase?

The word "Peter" means "ROCK" so use your brain to find out the remaining!

RightChannel:
Is the verse about gathering, can't you comprehend simple English!
Does Jesus said on this rock I will gather my Church or he mention anything Hall?

Guy that's an idiomatic expression something Jesus often use at least you can see that he said pure worship is no longer a thing of location! John 4:23-24

RightChannel:
If not about building, it is about singing right?
Matthew 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church;

Funny Church man it's about gathering faithful people that's why Paul used the same word @ 1Corinthans 14:4

Each member constitutes the material used in building a congregation (church) not a stationed building! Ephesians 4:12

RightChannel:
You need it most with the meaning of Church that you said it ONLY means "CONGREGATION" and not the building. I believe you can see what Matthew 16:18 says!

Matthew 16:18 is not about a building because Jesus said location doesn't matter in pure worship {John 4:23-24} so it's the gathering of Christians he meant not a building that's stationed in one particular place!

femi4:
I am not defending anything. ...just telling you that jesus only talked about what the OP said after his resurrection not before he died
So, your lazarus case does not hold water. He brought lazarus back to show himself to as the resurrection not life
Jn 11:25
Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live,

Don't mix up everything now so quote where Jesus said what the OP said after his resurrection.

Kavara:
Can I send you a mail or please van you mail me on tolufriday331@gmail.com
My email on this account is not functioning.

You don't have to do that, i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses so whatever you hear from me is the same you will hear from millions of Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the world.
So welcome a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses.
We have a Bible study aid titled "Enjoy Life Forever"
The first paragraph reads:

Kavara:
👍 okay. This is another angle to this.

Let me leave you for now with those who feel they are wiser than the God of Abraham so when you are through with them let me know!

femi4:
Even if the OP is right, your analysis is wrong. Being with Jesus after death was talking about Jesus after his resurrection not before his death. Stop gaslighting him as if you don't understand his post

You are eager to quote me yet you can't use the scriptures to defend what you want to portray.
The question is simple.

OP said the dead are with Jesus so why did Jesus bring back Lazarus is being with Jesus not better?

RightChannel:
Matthew 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
This is Church that means building according to Holy Bible!
Acts 2:1
And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. It says they were all with one accord in one place. Is one place the Hall you are using? What you are good at in your hall is to twist Bible by giving it your own meaning!

Funny Churchian!

Go and check the meaning of hall in your dictionary!

Kavara:
Because it's the right thing to do. Besides it must be done as the Bible has said owe no man anything.
It's really a lot.

The only Person you owe something now is One: God!

Any other person will die sooner or later whether you pay them or carry whatever you owe to the grave so think of how to settle with God first and all the other things will fall in place you still have a long way ahead and you don't know what tomorrow holds! Matthew 6:33-34

Kavara:
You don’t understand why I said so.
I do understand but on the human side, there are restitution I have to do.
Hence the reason

Why do you think the highlighted is necessary?

Kavara:
My past actions are quite weighty and I need advise on what to do, how to destitute some ways.
I will GP through the chapters

Please the highlighted is an insult on the true God because you are just another son of Adam who inherited sin, suffering and death through Adam and that's what has been the driving force leading you into doing what breaks you now.

This is what servants of the true God says:

Jehovah is merciful and compassionate, Slow to anger and abundant in loyal love. He will not always find fault, Nor will he stay resentful forever. He has not dealt with us according to our sins, Nor has he repaid us what our errors deserve. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So great is his loyal love toward those who fear him. As far off as the sunrise is from the sunset, So far off from us he has put our transgressions. As a father shows mercy to his sons, Jehovah has shown mercy to those who fear him. For he well knows how we are formed, Remembering that we are dust. Psalms 103:8-14

So clean up your tears and put away your sorrow because the true God will not continue to remember your blunders once you are willing to make amendments!

Kavara:
Please can you provide me chapters of the Bible that I can seek for God's mercy

You really made tears roll down my cheek right now because God has forgiven you right from the moment you felt remorse over your past blunders all He's waiting for you to do now is find your way back to Him for refreshment! Luke 15:17-24

So cheer up and let's discuss heart to heart, let's see how Jesus is going to help you!

Kavara:
Okay Max

First of all i want you to know that you are not alone in this world of mistake makers, we have all committed blunders in the past but what happened is we got help not financially because that's not the real help we need rather wisdom to use whatever we have WISELY!

Kavara:
I know my actions may have led me partially to the state I am but I want advise on starting a new life, living right, obedient to parents, change my mindset on financial management and my story's a long story and I can't say all here but I prefer someone anonymous who I don't know or who do not know me because he or she can't judge me

Highlighted is exactly what you need now people that knew you will continue taking you back to what you want to forget because they knew about your past life. Jesus knows everything about you but he will never ever judge you for your past blunders if you are willing to accept counsel!

Kavara:
Real Jesus?

YES!
All you need is read his words carefully, study it diligently, thoroughly meditate and pray fervently on the things you hear and the peace from God will take over from their! Philippians 4:7

Kavara:
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I shared my struggles with one.
He did not even respond. Like his read receipt on his WhatsApp is off. He would have read it but just ignored. For over two months. Even followed it up with a message. I guess he will be using it to laugh me.

Regarding families and relatives the Bible has this to say:

Do not forsake your friend or your father’s friend, And do not enter your own brother’s house on the day of your disaster; Better is a neighbor nearby than a brother far away. Proverbs 27:10

So it's neighbors you need around you not relatives or families! Luke 10:36

Kavara:
Jesus I don't know anymore.
It's a long road for me back but seems I have been fighting the battle myself.
Maybe it's time for me to submit

You need to know Jesus but not the one churchians are talking about because that's not the real Jesus o!

Kavara:
Is there a pastor or counsellor I can share my struggles with

What you need is Jesus, he is the world's most wonderful counselor of all time! Isaiah 9:6
Please share your thoughts and feelings let's see what Jesus has to say about it! Matthew 11:28-30

This people are the real cause of wars in many lands, by the time politicians wants to manage their way these people will be pushing the citizens against them just to prove that God spoke through them and by the end of the day when the politicians finally gets back to office these same pastors will start another set of prophecies.

bamvik:
A murderer and a liar will still go to hellfire
Someone who has been stealing in his entire life might go to heaven, while the one that stole once will go to hell. I can go on and on.
Mind you, in heaven no more vacation to different cities of the world, no more cruising in jets, ships and latest cars. No more Nairaland and other social media apps, no games, no football.
Just praises and hymns

You need a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses.

Heaven and Hell are real but not what's taught in the churches of Christendom, Heaven is where God dwells with angels so humans (flesh and blood) have no business with heaven, and as for Hell it's just the common grave of all dead be it good or evil, the only difference is while the good will be remembered for their good works {Job 14:13-15} and called back to live forever on a paradise earth {Psalms 37:29} the evildoers will be forgotten never to come and disturb the peace of mankind again! Psalms 9:17

Homosexuality and Lesbianism unlawful according to God's word!

Kukutente23:
So how does their promotion mean they were not founded on the truth of God's word

This Nigerian religion is not promoted unlike laodecia where the economy was booming Nigerians are suffering that's why this religion is promoting materialism!