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femi4:
That’s empathy
Lazarus was a friend n a disciple

OP said when they die they goes to Jesus don't you think it doesn't add up when Jesus cried instead of telling them that Lazarus is now with him?

Kukutente23:
So the church in Laodecia was not grounded in the truth from God's word?

There's a difference!
Christians in laodecia became proud due to being successful in material things but in this case these church is promoting material things unlike what the founder had in mind!

Laodecia
A city in the western part of Asia Minor, the ruins of which lie near Denizli, about 150 km (90 mi) E of Ephesus. It was known earlier as Diospolis and Rhoas but was evidently rebuilt in the third century B.C.E. by the Seleucid ruler Antiochus II and named after his wife Laodice. Situated in the fertile valley of the Lycus River, Laodicea lay at the junction of major trade routes and was linked by roads with cities such as Ephesus, Pergamum, and Philadelphia.Laodicea enjoyed great prosperity as a manufacturing city and as a banking center. Indicative of the city’s great wealth is the fact that when it suffered extensive earthquake damage in the reign of Nero, it was able to rebuild without any financial assistance from Rome.

Kukutente23:
How do you gauge being spiritually inclined? How does being materialistic mean the Mission is not from God especially looking at the church in Laodecia.

The church in laodecia did what is wrong and Jesus said he will trash them {Revelations 3:14-16} therefore if the other man started not materialistic but the whole thing now turns materialistic it means his teachings wasn't grounded on the truth from God's word that's why everything changed by the test of time! Matthew 7:16-18

RightChannel:
Do not deviate!
Where is your HALL written in Bible?

Hall simply means a large meeting room which first century disciples of Christ used and where God's Holy Spirit spread on all attendees! Act 2:1

Note that the Bible never referred to the meeting place as "CHURCH"

lexy2014:
that is not what he asked you.

It's OK, remember he's not a Christian so he doesn't know the importance of being Christlike!

AntiChristian:
Someone will only die when it's his/her time to die.

That's exactly what the Bible God said so you are absolutely right with this! Ecclesiastes 3:2

helinues:
This thread is about questioning the promised land in question. Anyone could have claimed that

Questioning what's written you mean?

It's because you don't know what others claimed in their stories that's why you're complaining about what the God of Israel promised His own people.

Look i want you to know that Gods in all places promised their worshipers a lot of things but only the God of Abraham fulfilled His promises.

Do you think the Canaanites never heard anything from their own Gods before they stood against the Israelites?

Ọmọ Gods in different locations promised their worshipers but it's due to failure to fulfill their promises that makes the God of Abraham unique! Isaiah 43:10

AntiChristian:
Because the delivery ambulance guy slept off....
Jesus didn't get the delivery!

Hope you won't wish someone death for joking about your prophet!

helinues:
Okay let's take this thread as a start , did the writer write against his people by claiming they were promised one land which in reality it was fabricated?

Try to keep your preconceived thoughts away from the discussion and focus on REALITY. It's the same book that we are reading so if you believe that they took over a land why do you ignore the parts that says their God promised them the land?

helinues:
Who wrote the book? Could the person have written something against his own people?

This is the major reason why i so much believe that book because the writers penned down a lot against their own people!

So why did Jesus cried when a disciple died? John 11:35

helinues:
Anyone could have claimed God promised them something don't you think? The sincere question is, Did God actually promise them anything or they are just fabricating things?

The book says they were slaves in Egypt and they were taken out of Egypt without fighting so what do you think of that?

The question should be:
How many none Israelites performed miracles in the Bible? Matthew 15:24

helinues:
My own curiosity about the story of the promised land is,
is the person who promised some people's land a real estate agent who is in charge of the land on earth?
Of all the unoccupied land back then, why promising people the land that had already been occupied by others?

God allowed Adam's descendants to fill the earth before coming out to prove He is the Creator of all things.

First of all He allowed Israelites to be enslaved in Egypt (the then world most powerful nation) for 400 years before sending two feeble octogenarians to go and deliver millions of people out of slavery in Egypt.

So by promising His worshipers a land already occupied the inhabitants of Canaan already knew that this God is unique as in different from all others Gods they knew because He journeyed down to Egypt and without a military force delivered millions of people from slavery and more to that He drowned Egyptian's strongest army in the red sea.

Surely that's enough global warning to all the inhabitants of planet earth that this particular God is the Almighty.

That's His motive not real estate agent!

His visible organization that's doing His will exactly as stated in the Bible!

God said:


“You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me. ‭Isaiah 43:10 NIV‬


So according to the highlighted in blue God is using His visible organization to strengthen the faith of His loyal servants that He exists and that there is no other God beside Him.

If there is no organized people doing the things God foretold in the Bible nothing can convince me that God exist because there is so much troubles in the world and no one could explain why the world is filled with troubles but with God's own organized people preaching as foretold in the Bible {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} having love among themselves despite their diverse nationality {John 13:34-35} settling their disparities peacefully among themselves, diverting resources into production of food and information materials, and vowing never to learn war anymore as stated in the Bible! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

In fact Jesus' final words to his disciples before his departure continues to make sense each time i view this organization:

"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8

pdppower:
Even Solomon sang about women's breast in songs of Solomon

You can sing romantic songs for your wife, Adam did that for Eve in the garden of Eden in God's presence! Genesis 2:23

We have songs for worship and we have variety of choices regarding secular music but we don't listen to anything the world call gospel music!

paxonel:
Leave politics out of religion.
Answer the religious question, Why is it that the verdict of painful labour during childbirth was unjudiously circulated to women all over the world, yet it was only Eve and her husband that disobeyed God?

It's simple!
God doesn't know any of us it's only the two (Adam and Eve) He knows so before we can prove that we are related to Him we must work on ourselves as children of a rebellious couple who doesn't value what God gave them. The punishment was for Adam and Eve but there is more to their own punishment than you were taught to believe, after all these has been settled obedient descendants of Adam will get back what Adam and Eve lost which is everlasting life on Paradise earth but Adam and Eve are gone forever they died completely never to be remembered during the resurrection of the dead.
So thank God that you have the chance to gain what your ancestors lost instead of complaining about being in pains for the errors of your ingrate ancestors.

Ezechimaobim:
But a believer can do business with an unbeliever abi?
Keep deceiving people

It's absolute truth!

People that thinks alike ought to marry one another for easy lifestyle if you are a worshiper of Ṣàngó the best thing for you is to marry someone from your faith!

Ọrùn iṣu làparò ń kú sí!

paxonel:
No!
And why is it that it was only Adam and Eve that sinned, yet everyone else suffered the consequence of their action?
Why is it that the verdict of painful labour during childbirth was unjudiously circulated to women all over the world, yet it was only Eve and her husband that disobeyed God?

Politics has done this to you my guy but it's OK just try not to hate people around you because that's what politics does to nice people poisoning their minds against neighbors!

RightChannel:
Is your Bible another copy of dictionary? You shouldn't be fighting with dictionary!
Where is your HALL in Bible?
Is this difficult for you to answer?

Check the meaning of God or Jesus in the Bible and see how many options the dictionary offers. Does that makes God and Jesus more than one according to the Bible?

7upnigeria:
Talk is cheap. Have you led any organisation SUCCESSFULLY before to speak authoritatively on this matter. If yes, how many people did you lead in the organisation?
To lead human beings no be beans O.

Hmmmmmmm, i'm not the founder of Christianity so i can't be the leader of the church of Christ but when talking about leadership in true Christianity Jesus handed it over to faithful men whose cravings is not worldly material things and they successfully led God's flock in the first century producing what Jesus foretold they will produce if they does things according to his instructions.
Today there is also a global organization of true Christians practicing Christianity exactly the same way first century disciples of Christ did and there is no country on this planet where they aren't doing the work Jesus assigned to them!

The office is the problem!

In true Christianity a Pastor means one of those qualified to shepherd the flock of God and not a title that should be attached to anyone's name.
So in each church there should be at least 5-10 qualified shepherds so that if one moves to a new territory brothers and sisters in the congregation won't feel it so much.
But in this case the title is given to men who knows how to milk members of the congregation making them contribute money like never before so if the person doesn't meet up with this need he will be removed and replaced!

This is the real world and planet home God created man to live forever is here but sin turned 99.9% of humans against God's will that's what we are fighting now and God is about to destroy those who failed change their attitude because by the time God brings His government such people won't fit in to the new system.

paxonel:
So, why did your organization deceived people that the world was going to end in 1914?

Good question!
This is Jehovah's Witnesses organization not International Bible Students Association!
Jehovah's Witnesses didn't tell anyone the world will end in the year 1914 that was the misconception International Bible Students Association had before the year 1914 just as John the baptist also thought the world will end in the first century so if someone doesn't know the difference he may conclude that since Jesus and most of his disciples were baptized by John the baptist Christians believe the world will end in the first century!

GanagiBitrus:
The IMAGE you are seeing is your perspective, or at best your personal interpretation of the scriptures you quoted. To the millions of members of RCCG, it is inconsequential.

You just brushed aside Jesus' own words and capitalized on quantity of worshipers whereas Jesus emphasized on the quality! Matthew 7:13-14

For your information true Christians were assigned to go and preach to their neighbors at home that's what made the inheritants of Antioch to identify Jesus' disciples and called them "CHRISTIANS" {Act 11:26 compare to Act 1:8} not because they were many shouting or chanting Jesus is Lord! Jesus is Lord! Matthew 7:21-23

GanagiBitrus:
Should your personal opinion about the church count, or be of concern to the church?

The highlighted shows you don't know what Jesus taught his disciples.

Worshipers of Mammon {Matthew 6:24} today has transformed themselves into ministers of Christ {2Corinthians 11:14} so the only way to IDENTIFY them is by observing what they portray as IMAGE because it's whatever those taking the lead among them value that followers will also cherish most! Matthew 7:16-18

GanagiBitrus:
RCCG has what it takes to make the children of the founder comfortable & happy. These complaints from the children are not good enough for the image of RCCG.

Apart from prosperity (world riches) that is common in today's religions what else does this church have as image?

This is what Jesus said:

"A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:18

Definitely the man's mission is not from God that's why all those following him (fruit) are materially not spiritually inclined.

Is your god a mystery!

God doesn't want us to be judgemental!