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TenQ:Ok it seems you agree that Jesus' voice wasn't heard in the streets but please can you quote the highlighted in any Bible version of your choice? Thanks in advance! ![]() |
Apostasy began in the garden of Eden when Satan initiated Eve who in turn initiated her husband and these three became rebels against God! The purpose for which God created us is just one simple purpose: that they may have life and enjoy it to the fullest! But then there is one thing God derives from creation: happiness as His creations are living fine and happily doing His will. What is God's will? For them to continue doing things in line with the purpose for which He created them so as long as they are living by the standard God set they will always make Him happy for being their Creator. So the word "WORSHIP" connotes being in agreement with someone always whether we know the reason or not! Satan as a spirit son of God felt this idea doesn't make sense because all the glory and honor goes to just one person: our Almighty Creator. So Satan decided to get worshipers for himself at least for them also to start doing his will without questioning his authority. Of course he knew very well that this is not going to be easy after all the angels in heaven knew their Creator very well and the first human couple also knew their Creator. From where will Satan now get his own worshipers since he can't create any living being? That's what made him a slanderer because he needs to slander the Creator in order for the created to turn against God. Since the first human couple don't know any other intelligent being other than their Creator Satan needs to plan his scheme intelligently otherwise he will fail so he decided to speak with Eve the last creature made in Eden. Note that the order for Adam and his children not to eat the forbidden fruit was given only to Adam who passed on the message to Eve so she is the inexperience one here. Satan didn't ask her directly what God said regarding the fruit instead he generalized the question: “Did God really say that you must not eat from every tree of the garden?" Genesis 3:2 This statement actually came out from a creature that's not made to talk so Eve was amazed that the snake could talk she began responding: “We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden. But God has said about the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden: ‘You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it; otherwise you will die.’” Genesis 3:2-3 It's time for Satan (the powerful angel using a snake as puppet) to hit the nail on its head: “You certainly will not die. For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad" Genesis 3:4-5 Let's break down Satan's statement: (1) No, God lied to you. (2) There is nothing like death. (3) God is hiding good things from you. (4) By eating it enlightenment will come. (5) You will become God on your own. (6) You won't need anyone to tell set standards for you again instead you will be the one setting the standard for others. And instantly Eve the inexperience one started having a change of heart then she took the fruit and ate it. Hence Satan's mission is accomplished Adam love his wife so much that instead of waiting for God to see what happens to Eve he quickly ate the fruit too after all that's the creature God gave him as a helper so he will tell God "the helper you gave me said i can eat it" Genesis 3:12 So that is how apostasy began in Eden because the fruit signifies authority to set standards which belongs only to God but now that Adam and Eve have eaten it they can now prove how the standard they wish to set will bring lasting benefit. From that time till today anyone following Satan's footsteps must slander those chosen to lead in worship just to create division among worshipers of the true God! |
Please can you quote the word RAPTURE in any version of the Bible?🤔 One funny thing about people this days is the way they swallow terms hook line and sinker without seeing such word in the Bible simply because some religious leaders agree on the such terms but the truth can't be covered as such religious leaders aren't in agreement on the rules that can lead their followers to earn what they are saying. For instance the mode of worship in the churches of Christendom differs doctrines are conflicting while teachings are contradicting. So on what ground will members of these different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines get this so called RAPTURE thing?😟 |
Women love motivational speakers out of whose mouth many are moved to act. This man is a pastor which means he earns a good living through what he's doing, which means many will be willing to bring gifts of high value to him, which means his wife and children can have all the material things they want, which means the woman will be highly regarded and respected in their society, which means she's one out of the most influential women if not in the world but at least in her country and continent. Surely the man has what it takes to have one of the most beautiful women in the world of his time! |
Kayberg: Kayberg:I know the spirit is monetization scheme so don't worry yourself again it's now understandable! ![]() |
Oh! Now i know why you can't mention your church, you are also monetizing the work of your own god. No wonder you hate Jehovah's Witnesses with so much passion! ![]() |
Janosky:Worshiping Jesus alongside the father is what they always say but what happens to their third god: holy ghost?🤔 |
Ken4Christ:You people don't know something and instead of humbly learning you arrogantly argue blindly yet nothing to show for your religion. The scriptures say faithful people must obey Jesus in connection with his father because there are things Jesus taught that may not be fully understood by the reader but when you go back to compare with God's laws in the OT you will get the clear picture. For instance Jesus taught his disciples to stand as no part of the world {John 17:14} does this mean they will be taken out of the world to another destination? John 17:15 NO! So what does Jesus mean by saying his disciples are no part of the world? Jesus said they belong to God's Kingdom {Matthew 6:10} so while others are still fighting over who should rule them Jesus' true disciples will separate themselves as subjects of God's Kingdom under Christ's reign so that they have nothing to share with Satan and his agents who the rulers of darkness. Satan knows different tactics to get people involved in the fightings and killings ongoing throughout the world {Revelations 6:3-4} but when Jesus' disciples put on the spiritual armor Satan can't beat them intellectually {Ephesians 6:10-12} and turn them against their neighbors or fellow believers which means they are now fully on his side as killers! John 8:44 That's what obeisance to Christ and God means not worshiping two Gods! |
Kayberg:My guy doctrine is not FRUIT but SEED members of your church exhibiting what they took in as spiritual food are the fruit of your church not doctrine. Read John 15 and learn from Jesus! ![]() |
correctguy101:The highlighted is how any layman will see the matter but let's think wisely. Imagine you live in Jericho back then and your house happened to be the place the Israelites used as hideout what would you have done knowing how their God has conquered the world's most powerful nation without a military force? ![]() |
Kayberg:Try to reread what Jesus said not just reading with your preconceived thought but meditating on each word Jesus used. He said: By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18 Did you notice that Jesus mentioned the FRUIT? So what is the name of your own church so that observer or onlookers may assess the fruit of your founder? You claimed that Charles Taze Russell is the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses even though that's not the accurate truth but let's assume you are on point the fruit of this group is known globally as the most peaceful organization that's raising law abiding, loving and peaceful citizens just as Jesus foretold his real disciples will prove to be in the endtime! Matthew 5:14-16 compare to Act 1:8 APOPTOSIS: BafanaBafana: Oye0404: XXLDICK: freethinker01: boss1310: Deway52: Love800: |
The vital lesson is that Rahab recognized the worshipers of the true God and was ready to support them in doing His will! This woman was an inhabitant of Jericho and nobody wants his or her home to be invaded by strangers but while others in Jericho were planning to protect their city from Israelites who are coming to take over their land Rahab the prostitute was contemplating who is on the side of the winning team! All the nations in the land of Canaan were forming alliance against the Israelites planning to fight them since the later are coming to drive them away from their homeland so everyone was afraid of what might happen but Rahab quickly resolved to support the people whose God has proved to be the Almighty. Listen to what she said: “I do know that Jehovah will give you the land and that the fear of you has fallen upon us. All the inhabitants of the land are disheartened because of you, for we heard how Jehovah dried up the waters of the Red Sea before you when you left Egypt and what you did to the two kings of the Amʹor·ites, Siʹhon and Og, whom you devoted to destruction on the other side of the Jordan. When we heard about it, we lost heart, and no one has any courage because of you, for Jehovah your God is God in the heavens above and on the earth beneath. Now, please, swear to me by Jehovah that, because I showed loyal love to you, you will also show loyal love to my father’s household; and you must give me a sign of good faith. You must spare the lives of my father and mother, my brothers and sisters, and all who belong to them, and you must save us from death.” Joshua 2:9-13 So the true God is not interested in her former lifestyle after all she's not one of those who knew God's righteous laws but she proved faithful by using he brain to reason that if only one God could singlehandedly go down to Egypt (the world's most powerful nation of her time) with two feeble octogenarians and deliver hundreds of thousands of from slavery no amount of warriors gathered by the Canaanites can stop such a God so she begged the worshipers of this God to help her plead with their God for mercy over her and all her family since no noble person will take her words seriously in Jericho! Do you know the worshipers of this God today? Do not be deceived that different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are worshiping this God because His only begotten Son made us to understand that many today will think they are on the side of this God but they are not doing His will! Matthew 7:21-23 So find out who are the true worshipers of this God today so as to know what they are doing and you too can support them in doing His will just as Rahab supported His worshipers back then in doing His will. May you have peace! |
maasoap:I often tell people that no killing originate from religion but politics. Now let's say economic interest between a farmer and a herder is about to cause a clash what the community needs to do is call the two persons involved and look for a way to settle it amicably but instead of this one person will hide his face and start motivating the herders to fight for their right while another person hides his face doing the same for farmers in anticipation of becoming their spokesman later so that by the time the politicians are searching for people to motivate voters during election such ones will be called to do the motivation since they already has followers who has been brainwashed to believe these greedy people had their interest at heart. That's how it has been going round and round. But had it been nobody takes side with anyone during disputes it can never ever lead to mass killings. Meanwhile politicians don't care about the lives of their citizens what they want is the office of central unit of control so as long as they are still on their mission to get into that office any killing along the process is like sacrifices they need to make or let's just say tools lost in the process!😟 |
Truvelisback:When Jesus came to the earth his assigned duty regarding preaching was to gather 144,000 in Israel which means 12,000 out of each tribe this people will become his corulers they are the only people who are to sit with him during his 1,000 years reign so each time he is talking about His kingdom and this fold he refers to them as members of the kingdom of heaven! Matthew 5:3 That is why he first sent his disciples to go only to Israelites because that's where the 144,000 was supposed to be gotten but as at the time he walked the earth only Jews were still active with the scriptures Samaritans who were also Israelites had derailed so Jesus specifically ordered his twelve disciples to go and speak with the Jews! Matthew 10:6 So had it been Jesus was able to get all his 144,000 corulers among the Israelites the invitation wouldn't have been extended to other nations {Matthew 22:8-9} the 144,000 supposed to be the first set of the kingdom Jesus referred to them as his first set of sheep and their reward will be in heaven! Matthew 5:3 The second fold will come through the active preaching of this first fold because they are supposed to carry Jesus' message to all other nations {Matthew 28:19-20} gathering people in millions as subjects of God's government. That's why Jesus called the people of the nations who will later become his disciples the other sheep {John 10:16} in the Bible book of Revelations they are the great crowd that appeared after the 144,000 spiritual sheep! Revelations 7:9 These are the ones who will inherit the kingdom of God because God's Kingdom under Christ's reign will bring them a lot of benefits so Jesus said they will inherit Paradise earth! Matthew 5:5 So the difference is 144,000 corulers with Christ are the ones having the Kingdom of heavens {Matthew 5:3} while their earthly subjects will inherit the kingdom of God on planet earth! Matthew 5:5 |
oridavid:I thought you have stopped discussing with me i'm sorry i've closed your chapter i only responded to the woman who quoted me and that's even my last response to her. Thanks for your time! |
budaatum:Knowledge of GOOD and EVIL is POLITICS that was raised in the garden leading Adam and Eve to support Satan and turn against God. God intended they multiply through reproductive means which is sex. There decision to become like God means preparedness to abandon God's standards and setting their own for their yet unborn children. |
Ken4Christ:At the time Jesus was talking there was fire burning on the refuse in Gehenna and there were worms there eating whatever remains that the fire doesn't consume. Any other question? ![]() |
Ken4Christ:This is the funniest comment here! So they needs to become Born Again first before understanding your religion instead of understanding a religion and converting before becoming Born Again! ![]() |
Truvelisback:There is a difference! Jesus said the kingdom of the heavens not the kingdom of God. Matthew 11:11 If you want to know the difference between the two i will expatiate but if you don't want to know it's OK. |
FxMasterz:You can continue hiding behind context but it's the same thing to anyone who is not biased, Jesus simply means he came to represent the One who sent him just as his disciples came to represent him. Simple as ABC! ![]() |
Truvelisback:Jesus said the least in the kingdom of the heavens! Matthew 11:11 |
Kayberg:Jesus told Jehovah's Witnesses: “You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens". Matthew 5:14-16 The truth will always prevail, whoever is interested in the truth only need to trail all those commentators to other threads to know if they are Jehovah's Witnesses or not! ![]() |
Kayberg: APOPTOSIS: BafanaBafana: Oye0404: XXLDICK: freethinker01: boss1310: Deway52: Love800: |
FxMasterz:Jesus said: I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— John 17:22 NIV And also: But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”. Acts 1:8 NIV The first says all disciples will become One just as Jesus and his father are one. Does this mean all disciples are the same person? The second says his disciples will serve as his witnesses. Does that mean whenever people see his disciples they have seen Jesus? “Whoever receives you receives me also, and whoever receives me receives also the One who sent me" Matthew 10:40 So if people have seen Jesus' disciples they have seen Jesus and whoever has seen Jesus has seen the one who sent Jesus! ![]() |
Janosky:It's just funny how they think one side of the scriptures contradicts the other instead of having an accurate knowledge they feel real Bible students are taking one side! |
For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten. Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they no longer have any share in what is done under the sun. Go, eat your food with rejoicing, and drink your wine with a cheerful heart, for already the true God has found pleasure in your works. May your clothing always be white, and do not fail to put oil on your head. Enjoy life with your beloved wife all the days of your futile life, which He has given you under the sun, all the days of your futility, for that is your lot in life and in your hard work at which you toil under the sun. Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going. Ecclesiastes 9:5-10 |
Kayberg:You are deceiving yourself! In the highlighted everyone knows that it is different Churches that's leading to arguments so if you say you're not going to tell the name of your church then there is no reason condemning whatever the churches teaches. And as for the later part of your post it proves that Jehovah's Witnesses are the one and only Organization practicing what Jesus taught. How? Jesus said since people called him a cultist his real disciples will also be labeled as a cult group! Matthew 10:24-25 |
wumiwumi100:Ọmọ you were never ever like me! I love God with all my heart, soul, mind and strength {Mark 12:30} so no matter what happens i won't give up on wholesome association of His worshipers because i know that's the only place where His blessings is to come from! Psalms 133:1&3 As a Muslim i always love being in the midst of those worshiping the true God {Hebrews 10:24-25} not until i met Jehovah's Witnesses and discovered they have all what it takes to be called God's people. So if you feel those taking the lead among God's people shouldn't make any mistakes i will like you to prove that from any religious book be it the Bible or Quran because God never promised such throughout all the religious books i've read the only thing God always give as evidence of His backing is fulfillment of prophecies and the doing of His will. *God promised to gather peace lovers throughout the earth under one umbrella. Isaiah 2:2; Micah 4:1 *God promised to lead them into seeing the truth of His messages. Isaiah 2:3; Micah 4:2 *God promised to send His holy spirit to guide His worshipers so that they settled their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing buying selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against their neighbors. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3 Is the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses fulfilling these prophecy today? YES! The next question any sincere and honest hearted individuals need to ask himself or herself is: Who is leading these imperfect men to achieve what God promised throughout the earth today? Act 1:8 ![]() |
Janosky:I always thank Jehovah for way i found the truth because instead of getting the message directly from members of Jehovah's Witnesses it was these apostates that preached to me unknowingly! How? Ever since i have known religionists what new converts always do is to preach about their new found faith because they feel so good that they've gotten something better than what they had before and are willing to share it with everyone they could engage but when i met the exjws their case is totally strange to me as they keep on speaking about their former religion as if nobody has ever been converted before! ![]() Haba! If you have left your old religion that's normal after all it's change which is constant but dwelling on your past as if there is no way forward is what really baffles me. So i decided to know the religion they are talking about at least to verify what exactly makes it so difficult for these people to let go and move on like every other religionist that's how i came to know that they have no other place to go or any better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses the organization they can't forget! ![]() |
Truvelisback:Greatness was explained by God's only begotten Son Jesus Christ. He said: Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. Matthew 11:11 From the statement above Jesus clearly analyzed what greatness means in God's sight. From Abel till John the baptist (for these are righteous people whose existence came by birth through women) none of them is greater than John the baptist but the lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens (Born Again Christians who will be taken to heaven as Christ's corulers) are greater than John the baptist! So it's clear that Born Again Christians are the greatest of all humans that is what Jesus said! But the question is: Who are truly Born Again Christians? |
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