lexy2014: Do the couple look like they got married yesterday?
FORESIGHT! Ladies back then used to go and ask of what will become of the man they want to marry. Once a woman noticed you are receiving attention from right, left, front, back and center they will stick to you like gum because they know you have something that's attracting people and that is what will lead to success!
Kusu12: Stop making disjointed comments. Is it every G.O that becomes successful? Just wish them well and move on.
At least she's expecting the billions even if it doesn't come and she will still have people kneeling before her both old and young alike. Ọmọ that's something to die for o!😟
FxMasterz: Listen my friend. You can choose to call it Trinity or any other word you want to call it. But that God is a Triune Being is an undisputable fact in Scripture. You don't even need to call it Trinity, but look at the Bible and see that God is a Triune Being.
I believe Moses and Jesus this is what both of them said:
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is ONE. Deuteronomy 6:4 NIV compare to Mark 12:29
One question for you Sir.
Is it compulsory for all Bible believers to accept this your TRINITY or Triune Being?🤔
bixton: Did you read the post till the point where he said he had to be frying buns as a houseboy? Did he say he was a G.O at that time or had the calling to be what he is today?
Please reread my post again before quoting me. I asked a question try to meditate on that question!
Can you QUOTE the word "TRINITY" in any version of the Bible?
Please first do that before explanation.
Thanks in advance!😴
FxMasterz: Have you seen this Part 2? Even more Truths:
The skeptics are still trying, but the Scriptures keep shutting every door against them. Let’s move into deeper truths they can’t handle.
Skeptic: “But the Bible says Christ is just a messenger… not literally God inside believers.”
Reply: Colossians 1:27 says “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” Meanwhile, in 2 Corinthians 6:16, God Himself says “I will dwell in them, and walk in them.” How is this fulfilled? By Christ in us. The presence of Christ in us is the presence of God in us. This is why Paul could boldly say in Galatians 2:20, “It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me.” If Christ in us equals God in us, then who is Christ?
Skeptic: “But in Revelation, it’s only God that should be worshipped, not Jesus.”
Reply: Revelation 5:13 destroys that argument completely: “And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea… heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto Him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.”
Both the Father and the Lamb receive the same eternal worship from all creation. Show me a prophet or angel who ever received worship like this without rebuke? Even angels reject worship (Revelation 19:10), but the Lamb receives it alongside God. Why? Because He is God. Meanwhile, the Lamb NEVER WORSHIPS ANYONE.
Skeptic: “But Jesus Himself worshipped God… that means He can’t be God.”
Reply: Revelation is clear: the 24 elders, the four living creatures, and all the angels worship God and the Lamb (Revelation 5:8-14). Notice something shocking: there is not a single verse where the Lamb worships anyone. Not one. Yet all creation bows before Him. That is divine status, not prophetic rank.
Skeptic: “But God is the only King, not Jesus. Jesus was just exalted.”
Reply: In the Old Testament, God is called “King of kings” (Deuteronomy 10:17, Daniel 2:47). Yet in the New Testament, Revelation 19:16 says Jesus has a name written: “KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.” The same eternal titles of Yahweh are ascribed directly to Christ. Either you accept that Jesus shares the very identity of God, or you will have to admit there are two different Kings of kings—which the Bible never allows.
Skeptic: “But Revelation still shows separation between God and the Lamb. They’re not the same.”
Reply: Revelation 21:23 solves it: “And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.” Notice carefully: it doesn’t say “lights.” It says LIGHT. One light, shared by God and the Lamb. They are not two competing sources, but one eternal divine radiance. That is unity of essence, not separation of nature.
Final Note: From Genesis to Revelation, the witness is consistent: the Son shares the names, glory, worship, throne, and attributes of Almighty God. Non-Trinitarians will quote isolated verses, but the full counsel of Scripture keeps exposing their loopholes.
ebenholer2: Miss Elton wasn't a church planter but freelance preacher. Her father was sent as an THE APOSTOLIC CHURCH missioner from UK before she then made up mind to make Nigeria her abode despising the suffering for the gospel sake. Church planters are mostly territorial preachers whereby their messages will be limited for certain territory.
The Apostolic Church. So how many of these pastors are still attending Apostolic Church today?
PlayerMeji: Jesus said go into the world and preach the gospel... He did not say go into the world and build a church.. What is the name of the church built by Jesus himself?
Thanks for this! Jesus couldn't form a church in the first century because the Jewish religious leaders were trailing him up and down looking for ways to get him killed {John 11:57} so he kept preaching and teaching from house to house and door to door but not staying permanently in any location. But after his resurrection this is what he commanded his disciples who by then has numbered in hundreds:
"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8
By this time it's difficult for the Jewish religious leaders to capture more than 500 people who are preaching and teaching throughout Judea and Jerusalem so they sent out spies in search of anyone declaring Jesus as the Messiah! Act 4:16-17; 5:28
Later after the Roman governor's intervention illegal arrests, detention and persecution of anyone on the basis of faith was ruled out that's why the first century disciples of Christ could form a congregation (church) in Jerusalem! Act 15:1-2
So the Apostles formed a church in Jerusalem until the nation was destroyed by the Romans for their terrorist actions but the first century disciples of Christ had escaped because Jesus has warned them in a prophecy! Luke 21:20-24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L3qPE6Md9Q?si=Pfi6z6WhBUXT8uNw Above is where the Russian government is seeking ways to accuse Jehovah's Witnesses Organization claiming we are terrorists. WHY? Because in Russia it's allowed to use the rod of discipline on your child so no child can lie against his or her parents and guardians claiming child abuse but in countries where they are not allowed to beat their children your own child has the right to accuse you of child abuse and you will be found guilty under their laws. So if Russia is jailing JWs the world's most peaceful religion as terrorists what do you expect of other countries where they don't know how to get back at JWs for none participation in politics?
He's a sad atheist so let him be that's how he's been running around the forum criticizing all religions so now he wants their attention by accusing Jehovah's Witnesses at least if they shunned him for being an atheist they will celebrate him for accusing their number one enemy religion!
damosky12: Why not stick with the topic on the thread? Must you turn the atmosphere here into one of doctrinal tussle? You think that's a proper godly conduct in itself?
Eyes you people have but can't see. Ears you carry but can't understand.
The person who initiated this topic does not recognize pastor from any other church except Kumuyi Deeperlife man.
So if he is now praising a woman for her missionary work but criticizing those that were brought up by the missionary is he really in support of the woman's labour in the faith?😟
Exousiang01: Late Archbishop Benson Idahosa was discipline of her father Elton, Idahosa spoke about her father all the time, It was from Idahosa, Bishop David Oyedepo is a disciple of Benson Idahosa, just as Dr Enenche is a disciple of Bishop David Oyedepo. So yes, you are right about that. But on the issue of church, not every missionary starts a church, starting a church is not the only way to contribute to the body of Christ. If you read again you will see her main focus in the body of Christ, helping children and all that, Mary Slessor didn't start a church but her missionary work saved thousands of generations. Paul is not a perfect example of a Christian, even Paul himself spoke about his own limitations, so using Paul as the yardstick is wrong, everyone called into the vineyard has an assignment, you can't say because Paul went about opening churches then every missionary must do the same even when God has sent them on a different assignment.
Many you christians are sitting under shouting pastors who teaching you nothing. If you actually had the most basic understanding you would understand that the body of Christ has different parts that work together to move and grow just like the human body
Thanks for the exposé
Benson Idahosa and David Oyedepo.
Ọmọ these two are enough evidence jàre. Kò s'ọ́rọ̀ mọ́! Nothing more to add!
paxonel: These were the real soul winners! Not the ones we have today in private jets who had refused to take the gospel of Jesus Christ to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Yemen and Iran but keep disturbing fellow local Christians with their noise of prosperity that anyone can achieve
EyeCumInPeace: These are the people really doing the "Work of God" Not the Pulpit Bandits we have all over the place parading themselves as "Men of God".
You people aren't following what Jesus said:
"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:16-18
Who told you those people you claim are pulpit billionaires aren't FRUITS of this woman?🤔 At least ask of the name of her church then we can now know if she's not one of their founders who doesn't know how to turn the Bible into money like them but founded them. She is not a Nigerian surely she can't know how to get jazz and other things to "say as i do" for our people but her children in da Lord advanced the business. So let's know the name of her church before you start praising her!😟
annyplenty: I mean a pure moralists who refrains from all the SINS normally preached against by most religions but whose instincts are based purely on morals and not due to religious beliefs.
annyplenty: Jesus is the way, the truth and the life; noan cometh to the Father but by Him.
John 14:6 compare to John 3:16 You have answered the question already no moralist today can see God's kingdom as long as he or she have seen the true disciples of Christ knocking on doors and rejecting their message! Matthew 10:14-15
What is the name of her church since we all know that there are thousands of sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines today? In the first century a Christian missionary must be able to mention the name of the church he established so that it may be in record that so and so person founded this church after preaching and teaching in that area. That's what apostle Paul did in Rome, Corinth, Galatia, Ephesus, Philipi, Colossea and Thessalonica. So what is the name of the church she founded so that everyone can see how members of that church are zealously preaching and industriously teaching from house to house and door to door just as Jesus commanded his disciples? Matthew 10:11-13
All these people have nothing tangible to preach that's why they are looking for JWs to argue with they all know there is no religion that has refused to bow to their idol except Jehovah's Witnesses that's why they won't engage anyone in their debates except Jehovah's Witnesses! Yesterday a guy named SarcasticWords tried to engage the OP he refused to respond but let it be one of Jehovah's Witnesses he will start quoting scriptures out of context claiming it's all about his Trinity god. As long as there is no version of the Bible where the word TRINITY is written i have no time to waste with them!
Janosky: "God MADE the Universe NOT his son". @Hebrew 1:2 ,Paul clarified Col 1:16-17 you are cleaving to. Hebrew 1:2 addressed your misunderstanding of Colossians 1:16-17 Matthew 11:25 & Acts 17:24, Jesus & Apostle Peter have already confirmed that Steep is deceiving himself.
Acts 17:24 (MOUNCE) reads: "The God who made the world and everything in it, he who is Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in shrines made by human hands...". This verse is part of Paul's sermon to the Athenians in Athens' Areopagus, where he introduces the God of creation, emphasizing that the true God is not limited to human-made temples or rituals, but is the sovereign Lord of all.
Yahweh ho theos (The God ) & Sovereign LORD of ALL owns ALL creation. Person wey dey argue against Matthew 11:25 , Acts 17:24 & 1 Corinthians 3:23 nah believer?
Yesterday i told SarcasticWords that each religionist has their own style of begging Jehovah's Witnesses for debates the guy thought i was just advertising a religion. Now you have come out openly after all your effort to engage people in worthless talks proved abortive. No matter how long you've been running around to create worthless arguments intelligent people will realize you have no faith and stop engaging you. This morning you've gone to ridiculed one of their major leaders yet you expect them to follow you in spreading lies about Jehovah's Witnesses. Well if that's your portion continue munching it "there is no peace for the wicked" that's what my God said! Isaiah 57:21
DoWhatThouWilt: Please help me ask him why his organisation is filled with child abusers
SarcasticWords: Since you are so eager to advertise your religion discuss with the fellow below. I believe he asked you a question.
MaxInDHouse: That's his own style of begging Jehovah's Witnesses for attention just as the OP will not respond to you but ever ready to engage a Jehovah's Witness that's why i told you not to waste your time because they all know the one and only religion that's standing tall above all others and that's the only religion they want to chat with regarding scriptures!
“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens." Matthew 5:14-16
Kayberg: Only lies can do what they do. Because I don't see where twisting the truth and making into a lie makes it still true.
Kayberg: You don't need to know the name of the place where I worship… you should be able to notice I happen to see your deceptions… and that is enough to make you realize the huge difference between us.
We are not surprised as you are hiding behind anonymous when everyone knows that there are thousands of different sects out there with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming Christians but the one and only Organization having unique teaching with adequately qualified students of the Bible you want to accuse {Matthew 5:11-12} Jesus said you people will see that light but because you belong to darkness you will hate the light {John 3:19} as long as you can't mention the name of your religion (church) i'm OK so keep it to yourself!
Blasphemy! Nevermind, at least you guys now have a member of JW responding to your TRINITY arguments but as long as the word "TRINITY" doesn't appear in any version of the Bible there is no reason for me to debate here.
Steep: That is the blasphemy Jehovah's witness organization has taught you.
Steep: No pagan has any God that is trinity. But you as a jehovah witness you do not believe that only Jehovah is God, you believe there are other gods that jehovah created, you make jehovah an idolater even when he said there is no god besides him.
SarcasticWords: Since you are so eager to advertise your religion discuss with the fellow below. I believe he asked you a question.
That's his own style of begging Jehovah's Witnesses for attention just as the OP will not respond to you but ever ready to engage a Jehovah's Witness that's why i told you not to waste your time because they all know the one and only religion that's standing tall above all others and that's the only religion they want to chat with regarding scriptures!
@ JimRohn You don't have to be angry at what each person says against your religion on this forum many just love provoking people but then the same individuals will accuse others. So calmly address each person otherwise the system or moderators will start banning your comments.
Do you know any prophet who embodied these qualities:
1️⃣ Bloodthirsty
2️⃣ Was a caravan robber
3️⃣ Was a mass murderer
4️⃣ Was obsessed with sex
5️⃣ Routinely contrived inspired verses on the spot to justify his personal desires
6️⃣ Was a despot and tyrant
7️⃣ Was a plagiarist
For being straightforward you may hate me but this is not a friendly manner to start a conversation:
Nnamdipapa: Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.
SeniorMan715: The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.
Questionnaires: MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.
If you don't believe in any religion again please try to make your presentation friendly though firm.
SarcasticWords: No need for the Jehovah's witness advertisement. I am not interested. To the topic at hand, I am curious to hear an answer from the OP himself.
Whatever is typed is not for you alone it's for millions of followers who may stumble on this discussion so let it be that you saw it and ignore while honest hearted and sincere individuals who wants to know the only true religion are coming to pick what they desire so much!
SarcasticWords: Are you saying Jesus Christ the son and God the father are the same?
That is what TRINITY means in theology schools though it's not found in God's word. In fact that is the main reason why you have thousands of religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming Christians so if anyone wants to start his own business church all he/she needs is to find another way to explain his/her own Trinity and none of them can accuse such a person of falsehood after all he/she has entered through their main door: TRINITY The rest is underground accusations that can't be brought to the public.
What is the problem with TRINITY?
Since it's not found in the Bible and each person wants to establish his/her own definition there can't be agreement among it's worshipers all what they are targeting is riches (Mammon) so whoever doesn't become wealthy among it's worshipers is considered a loser. But in Christ Jesus we must all have the same line of thought in the faith {1Corinthans 1:10; 1Peter 3:8} just as Jesus fervently prayed for among his disciples! John 17:22
Please ask each TRINITY worshiper to mention the name of his or her church you will be surprised that they will be hiding behind anonymous just as the Bible says regarding false religionists in the end time {Hosea 10:8; Luke 23:30; Revelations 6:16} Jesus has restructured his group so that they now stands out as they did in the first century {Matthew 5:14-16} today God has given His true worshipers another group name {Isaiah 65:15} so if they're claiming Christians we just laugh at them because there is a global family of peace loving worshipers exhibiting all the qualities Jesus said honest hearted and sincere people should look for among his true disciples! Matthew 7:16-18
APOPTOSIS: JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level. They have been steadfast, resolute and committed. I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches. They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies. Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts. And it seems they obey the Bible the most: -They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers. -They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles. -They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve. -Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.
BafanaBafana: Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money. Shikena!
Oye0404: well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..
XXLDICK: They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination. They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite. Cons: They do not recite the national anthem. They do not participate in elections. They do not accept blood transfusion.
freethinker01: Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.
boss1310: The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.
Deway52: I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible. Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.
Love800: I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!
But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!
FxMasterz: Lol. Trinity is a Truth. A truth is something to uncover from underneath. It does not float on the surface. So, you didn't see Jehovah witness, kingdom Hall and the "don't keep a moustache" doctrine in the Bible, but you hold on to then anyway? Meanwhile, Trinity is in the Bible, and that is what I have proven above. Trinity is a doctrine, not just a word. The doctrine is sound and backed by Scriptures as explained in the OP.