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MightySparrow:
Explain nah!
If someone gives an answer like this you will demand an answer in line of thought.

Let the one asking demand for that!

johnw47:
Isa 43:10  You are My witnesses, declares the LORD, And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me. 
God did not say to israel "you are to be called Jehovah's witnesses
God said to israel "you are my witness", God had already named them "Israel", HE did not change their name.

The group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" is not for Israelites but all faithful servants of God.

So according to a BORN AGAIN Christian called apostle Paul faithful people like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job, Moses, Joshua , Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, Deborah, Samuel ,David and many others are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

At your leisure you can read Hebrews 11:4-34

@ Hebrews 12:1 apostle Paul encouraged his fellow Christians to learn how to do faithful and loyal to Jehovah like these ancient servants of God.

So the name is for all faithful servants of God whether such ones happened to live in the time of Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Jacob or even Joseph and Mary they are all Jehovah's Witnesses.

Thank you!

Kingsempires:
so who is Jesus

Matthew 16:16

All faithful and loyal servants of God are called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES by the true God! Isaiah 43:10
But out of these servants of God comes the only begotten Son of God whose name is Jesus he formed a group that will help all Jehovah's Witnesses to connect one another globally as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers these group was called CHRISTIANS in the first century but only those who are faithful and loyal to the true God among them are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES just as all descendants of Noah or descendants of Abraham or descendants of Jacob or descendants of David are faithful and loyal to the true God.
So in this last days Jehovah began calling His worshipers by this group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" after pure worship has been adequately restored.

This will separate them from rebellious humans who wants to claim they are all part of His worshipers, that's why it's difficult for anyone who's heart is not pure to feel comfortable being among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 35:8

Broveens42:
Expecting a message from chiokike is not different from Nollywood movies where a native doctor hits his gong or throws some cowries to hear a message which is actually a misrepresentation. Any philosophy that allows a god speak for you is actually cultural and shouldn't be used universally. So what igbos view in chiokikeabiama is not in expectation of any message, charge, commission, judgement etc but in acknowledgment.

That is what makes JEHOVAH the Abrahamic God unique, as the true God and Creator of all things He speaks and makes sure he fulfils whatever He promises {Isaiah 55:10-11} unlike all other Gods that worshipers don't really know their purpose.

So don't compare a living God with dead gods who can't do anything! Psalms 115:4-8

Michael547:
Don't mind the guy.....I have given him four translations that have revealed his teachings to be false. He says that they are fake translations. Oya Brin a translation that contradicts those translation. Till now he has not been able to bring one. He is just giving his own interpretation since morning and wants me to blindly believe him.

He will claim the highlighted is not what he wanted rather he will say it's Jesus you should believe not him but did Jesus agree to disagree when it's falsehood?

Michael547:
😂😂😂Oga show me a translation that supports your statement in that verse.....I have shown you several translation.....any other interpretation of that verse is your own ideology until you prove me wrong.

tctrills:
That's jw false doctrines...... let's agree to disagree.

[1] That's jw FALSE doctrines.

But

[2] let's agree to disagree!

All you these Jehovah's Witnesses why is it so difficult for you to agree to disagree with false.

Kingsempires:
ok ooo

He doesn't know what to say but the dribbler and manipulator has come to his rescue, telling you that it's wise to hide within a group as a prominent member yet speaking against the same group.

Can you remember Jesus' word at Revelations 3:16

Real Witnesses of Jehovah will always stand for what is right not hiding among people you know are practicing falsehood claiming you're PHYSICALLY IN MENTALLY OUT!

MindHacker9009:
Now tell us what good is in your organisation?

The GOOD and WISDOM in CHRISTIANITY is enough nah!

MindHacker9009:
This is what I like about Christianity, that it's not all the time you turn the other cheek: Luke 22:36
He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
You are no even a Christian as your organisation is not a Christian organisation. So what good is in your organisation?

Ọmọ everyday is not Christmas so there's no need for argument for now at least you have learned some GOOD and WISE LESSONS from CHRISTIANITY!

Michael547:
Your teaching is false as exposed by this four translations of the Bible

You have added insult upon injury!

Now he will start following you from thread to thread just as he did to me years back until i told him never to quote me again!

Kingsempires:
But sand2022 my question for you is ;

Is it true you are still attending jw ?

If you are still attending jw and you are a trinitarian my brother sorry to say this but that is hypocrite. If you agree with the trinity why are you still attending Jw

"Young children, it is the last hour, and just as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared, from which fact we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out so that it might be shown that not all are of our sort" 1John 2:18-19

In the first century their kind left the group but got lost and never had any record in the Bible so their modern day counterpart have learned from the past mistakes of their first century counterpart instead of leaving the congregation they are now claiming:

PHYSICALLY IN MENTALLY OUT!

Michael547:
Oga how am I wrong? Who is the seed in that verse and who is the mediator in that verse? Kindly explain.
Below also is another version of the bible.

He will continue to argue blindly as long as you are not ready to admit that both of you can be right from different opinions.
His Logo is
"let's agree to disagree"

In other words you should accept that either side could be right or wrong so no absolute trust in whatever either side believes!

tctrills:
As I said, you are not the only one on the thread.

Good!
So face your students and count me out!

Michael547:
The bible clearly Shows that Almighty God revealed himself to his servants of old like Noah and Abraham and Moses directly and sometimes through angels. God made Moses the mediator Between himself and the chosen nation of isreal in the old covenant in the religion of Judaism. God sent his only begotten Son Jesus to put an end to the old covenant and establish a new one in which he is the mediator. In the New covenant, you cannot access the father without the son.

The Son is the head of the church and those who are followers of Jesus are called Christians. Faithful servants of old were not required to have faith in Jesus to Worship God.

If he is not willing to accept the highlighted i don't think there is any reason to continue wasting my precious time on him!

MindHacker9009:
The reason you are baffled hearing that I follow what is good in Judaism and Christianity, is because your organisation has not allowed you to find what's good in Judaism and Christianity which borrowed all the good stuff from Judaism, this is the reason you have so much hatred for the Jews even though it's from the Jewish Torah your organisation have invented their own fake beliefs which has now made you to become very baffled.

Ọmọ i'm really glad that after all your stories on Nairaland there is something GOOD you see in CHRISTIANITY.

I think that's enough for now!

Broveens42:
igbos have an unseen creator (not personal this time around) as chiokikeabiama ....the unseen creator.

So what does your so called "chiokikeabiama" has to say about the future of mankind?

MindHacker9009:
You have a problem hearing that I follow what is good in Judaism and Christianity, this is because your organisation has made you to be confused and ashamed of knowing good from wrong, this is the reason you have so much hatred for the Jews even though it's from the Jewish Torah your organisation have invented their own fake beliefs from, that has now made you to be very confused.

So in a nutshell you know that CHRISTIANITY is GOOD.

That's wow, just WOW!

tctrills:
I am only here to teach and correct you.

That's the problem because you only teach or correct someone who BELIEVES he needs to learn or get correction from you.
So in my case it's a pity that i don't need you!

tctrills:
I am still waiting for you to tell me if the men of old were aliens who could access God without Christ and when did humans lose that ability.

Honest hearted and sincere individuals BEG or PAY for knowledge they don't insult the person who will pass it to them since i'm not interested in whatever you believe but you are the one desperate to know mine you will humble yourself to get it not abusively.

So tender an apology and i will TEACH you but if you feel you're OK with what you know then there's no need for this!

tctrills:

The JW puts you in position where you become dumb by the day. I love you last answer.
Please don't start another thread without proper research if you don't want it to go the way this one went.

Desperately BEGGING for response from JWs yet abusive, well it's OK!

tctrills:
So according to JW doctrine, Abraham and David did not need Christ to access God. They must be super humans. The men of the old testament must really aliens.
My guy, you people need to flog your leaders. Not only are the false, they are dumb. How can they expect you guys to defend nonsense. Una suppose dey flog them on a daily

OK!

tctrills:
Funny guy. Yes oh I need to call your name 10x before I sleep . But then, can you tell us the last person that had the power to access the Father without Jesus Christ? Was it John the Baptist?

I don't have the time for time wasters like you if you want to LEARN you must humble yourself or stick to what you want to believe.

Abraham and David can't be Christians since they never met or heard about Christianity from the teacher who came to teach Christianity or from those he sent out to TEACH others about Christianity.

If you're proudly and stubbornly arguing blindly over that there's no need wasting my precious time with you!

Kingsempires:
bullshit

It's no bullshit o!

This means many people on this forum are in a situation that they don't understand themselves.

Because this person have always spoken against Christianity yet he wants to relate with the same religion calling it GOOD and WISE!

Kingsempires:
na you fit to handle this guy

Please help me ask him what he meant by the statement:

MindHacker9009:
I'm not a Buddhist. I follow what's GOOD and wise from Judaism and CHRISTIANITY .

Kingsempires:
The op I don't understand what you are trying to do do you want to convince people that Jesus is Lucifer

I just want an explanation from him but it seems he's confused or ashamed because he typed what you're seeing below yesterday while trying to convince an atheist regarding his beliefs.

MindHacker9009:
I'm not a Buddhist. I follow what's GOOD and wise from Judaism and CHRISTIANITY .

MindHacker9009:
I'm not a Buddhist. I follow what's GOOD and wise from Judaism and CHRISTIANITY .

What do you mean by saying:

I follow what's GOOD in CHRISTIANITY

MindHacker9009:
I'm not a Buddhist. I follow what's GOOD and wise from Judaism and CHRISTIANITY .

What do you mean by saying:

I follow what's GOOD in CHRISTIANITY

MindHacker9009:
I'm not a Buddhist. I follow what's GOOD and wise from Judaism and CHRISTIANITY .

What do you mean by saying:

I follow what's GOOD in CHRISTIANITY

MindHacker9009:
I'm not a Buddhist. I follow what's GOOD and wise from Judaism and CHRISTIANITY .

What do you mean by saying:

I follow what's GOOD in CHRISTIANITY