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[quote author=advanceDNA post=138846797]it has nothing to do with medical intervention…./quote]

 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you! Act 15:28-29

Are you sure it has nothing to do with medical intervention?

Perhaps it's time to lecture most of you on the importance of food because it's clear you people don't know that food is the medicine for hunger.🙂

Courz:
For the Governing Body member to make that statement The Governing Body have decided means the Governing Body decides everything about JW. It has nothing to do with God Almighty.

What you lack is FAITH.

See the way the first century Governing Body tabled their decision:

For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29

Of course if you were there back then you'll say it has nothing to do with the Almighty God because our brothers will never ever yield to your faithless noisemaking but stick to what those taking the lead among them decides! Hebrews 13:7🙂

chimex38:
@boldeds..lol..
then why get triggered?
and still put up a smiling emoji?

What do you mean by triggered?
I just dey take unah dey pass time natin wey unah fit do.

If you have no faith it's better we crack jokes nah!🤣

femi4:
He will answer the question with question. Don't mind the junk

Just like someone did for faithless Jews in the first century:

After he went into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came up to him while he was teaching and said: “By what authority do you do these things? And who gave you this authority?”  In reply Jesus said to them: “I will also ask you one thing. If you tell me, then I will also tell you by what authority I do these things:  The baptism by John, from what source was it? From heaven or from men?” But they began to reason among themselves, saying: “If we say, ‘From heaven,’ he will say to us, ‘Why, then, did you not believe him?’ But if we say, ‘From men,’ we have the crowd to fear, for they all regard John as a prophet.” So they answered Jesus: “We do not know.” He, in turn, said to them: “Neither am I telling you by what authority I do these things". Matthew 21:23-27

So if you who came asking me questions when i'm not interested to engage you won't answer abeg dey your dey!😀

femi4:
Dont deviate..answer the question or you forever hold your peace

You are the one deviating because you refused to answer the question that will lead you to the answer you seek!🙂

chimex38:
"After much prayer and study of the scripture, the Governor Body has come to conclusion...".

That's exactly what you supposed to say since nah but your own pastors are not students of the Bible o unlike the Governing Body that's always saying:

"We are studying the Bible"

So it's from what the holy spirit teaches them that we gain knowledge about the next thing to do.

I hope your own church can present a single achievement despite all your tithe and offering regarding preaching and teaching work Jesus assigned to his disciples which JWs are globally known for! Matthew 28:19-20🙂

femi4:
Don't deviate...write it out where its written that blood shouldn't be used for treatment of ailment ....as medication is a big grammar to you

Do you take medication into your body?
Can you prove that abstinence doesn't include the intake of what we are talking about?🙂

How many times do i have to tell you that this your nonsense can never ever work with me?😀

sonmvayina:
No Moses either
No Exodus from Egypt.
it's all happening within us... Egypt represent "a state of ignorance".(ignorance of one self/chaos)

sonmvayina:
o
no, it is based on an earlier Babylonian myth about how man lost the chance at immortality. ...

So there was no Moses yet it's a reality to you shey?😀

Upon all your noises see TESTIMONY:

freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.

BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

Oye0404:
well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..

XXLDICK:
They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination.
They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite.
Cons:
They do not recite the national anthem.
They do not participate in elections.
They do not accept blood transfusion.

boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.

Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

DeepSight:
I am not sure the respect JWs have is on account of what you say. It is more on account of their general simplicity, general adherence to bible truth, and the fact that no one can accuse them of being commercialised or money or power focused like most other denominations are. Alot of people see a purity in them which is lacking in many other places. I should know, for as I told you, in my youth, I used to be one.

HardMirror:
unfortunately, JW are the best Christians if we will be honest.

sonmvayina:
The message has always been a reality.....not the written word....The letter killeth.

The message is a reality so Adam and Eve are now real to you shey?🤣

Eldeedon:
I know you are blind.. but don't worry your eyes will soon clear!
Peaceful you say!? LOL 😁 when you guys are suffering and smiling? I know you guys very well oooo! Fake love everywhere.

FAKE LOVE that has removed the making, buying, selling and using of weapons in the minds of millions of people across the world shey? Isaiah 2:4

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself nah!🤣

There is a religion that is forcing people to become members and when the one forced decides to run away from their religion they will kill such a person.
They can marry a girl as young as nine years old.
They go into politics and force whatever they believe on people.
They make noise every morning in the name of call to prayer as if they don't know the time of their prayer.
They get provoked and fight at every little conversation.
And with all of these they not satisfied they still feel like forcing their religion on you whether you understand or not.

On the same planet and at the same time another religion is going round the globe and turning people into peace lovers.
They are the most peaceful organized people the world has ever known.
When talking about politics they don't participate but stay far away.
When talking about racism their people love everyone equally but most especially members that come from all other places.
In their midst no one is viewed as rich or poor because there is no office that is meant for anyone.
All these coupled with the fact that they are fulfilling what God promised in our time regarding those who will be doing His will during the end time.

But here we have people coming to accuse them for nothing other than the same faith that has produced the finest works among humans!🙂

Using painkiller over someone else headache!🙂
Go and find solution to religionists who are bent on forcing you to join them you will say NO but the most peaceful organized people on planet earth you want to accuse for sticking to their faith what a shame?🙂

Eldeedon:
My brother no need to waste energy for those people body, they are definitely blind!

That's how we will be here, their god( governing body) will drop birthday update, this same guy will come here and defend them that they never told them not to celebrate birthday!

See ehn, I don tire for these people, i nor know how person go just decide pull out his or her brain because of religion.

Now I can see alot of them rocking bears, that's the same thing they preach against for years! Infact they ostracized a lot of people because of that, now is the new norms among them.

sonmvayina:
Death is return to default..
The body back to the earth
The spirit back to God. it is the spirit of God. The one floating at the beginning of Genesis.. That same one. it is that one spirit that is within each of us. it is that one spirit seeing itself divided...

Please when did what you read in the Bible became a reality?🤣

FxMasterz:
Okay, let me break down the question so you understand.
Jesus said we must be born of Spirit and water. How do we become born of Spirit and water according to your JW doctrine?

Do you believe Jesus?
If so keep your faith in him.

FxMasterz:
Then, I'll like to know if someone who gets born again today and dies today can be saved.
I have heard of people who get converted on their sick beds and die afterwards. Would they be saved?

Conversion totally differs from becoming born again.
120 disciples of Christ in the upper room were all converted from Judaism to Christianity but they became born again that day.
God doesn't anoint anyone only for the anointed to get killed that same day without doing the work he was anointed to do.
Do you understand now?🙂

promami:
What is not true is that if your blood or parts of it used for your treatment would result to disfellowship.

He is an apostate who will tell lies just to malign God's people so he knows the truth but will say whatever pleases him! John 8:44

If anyone wants to know what brother Gerrit Losch said which some faithless people here wants to misconstrue.

It is about God's law regarding BLOOD according to God's law blood should be poured out and buried since God's servants don't eat it so modern day servants of God keep the laws because our first century Governing Body said we are not under mosaic laws but we should abstain from sexual immorality, meat from strangled animals and blood.
Jehovah has been good to His people all the time {Psalms 34:8} the profession of butchering and selling meat is widely carried out by Muslims.
One may wonder how is that a blessing to Jehovah's people?
Well in their book (Quran) it's prohibited strictly for Muslims to eat or sell animals which blood wasn't drained out of its body!🙂
So when we go to the market to buy meat there is no need to fear the Muslims selling meat have drained its blood before bringing it to the market. 1Corinthans 10:25-25
But something serious came up!🤔
Medical personnels says they've found a way to save their patients through the use of blood!😟
So what will be the position of faithful servants of God who are adhering to His laws?
Of course we are no longer under the Mosaic laws {Romans 10:4} but then the first century Governing Body said we should abstain from blood for our own good! Act 15:28-29
So how do we apply the scriptural counsel?
God's servants wants to be on a safer side by keeping His words {Luke 11:28} so we said "NO" to blood transfusion since it involves infusing blood into our bodies.
But what if the medical personnel says the blood will be needed in another part of our body than where it's much presently?
This means the personnel have to remove the blood from one part of our body and infuse it back.
Formerly most of our brothers will still object based on the scripture that says once the blood comes out of the body it should be buried {Deuteronomy 12:16; 15:23} this is what brother Gerrit Losch is saying that if you still feel like it shouldn't be returned to your body its OK but know that we are no longer living by that mosaic laws which says blood taken should be buried.
So if anyone needs to make use of his or her own blood during treatment it's not wrong scripturally since the blood is not from external sources but your own body!🙂

Wise people who knows how dedicated JWs are will ask thought provoking questions on how the scriptures was applied before and why the change but funny critic like you just want to accuse God's people.
Well that's your own headache nothing has changed rather it's misconceptions regarding the matter that was cleared.🙂

TONYE001:
Alright, sir.
Make we leave the matter here, these back and forths are not necessary. Glad your organization are loosening up regarding blood transfusion. Sad that those that have died because of this blood issue are not here to see this change. Hopefully, things will be better. My message to everyone reading this - be careful about the health decisions you make... especially when considering the policy of your church. These policies change, don't be a victim before it changes.

MaobiCarl:
Doctors can lie and tell JW elders that is their own blood

Holy Lies!🤣
Meanwhile this shows how naive you are on this matter because JWs don't donate blood therefore there is no way any doctor can get blood from a JW unless the patient needs the blood to be extracted from one part of his body and transfused back to another part of his body!

CodeTemplar:
They always took male forms and i cannot recall any female angels so decided to speed up the search by throwing it here.

When God said:

“Let us make man in our image" Genesis 1:26

He created only Adam it was later that God said:

“It is not good for the man to continue to be alone. I am going to make a helper for him, as a complement of him.” Genesis 2:18

So God and all heavenly beings are masculine not feminine!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlsjWwHWP4M?si=oX3dg4QTA0H34dFO
Medical personnels around the world are saying:
"Thank you JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"

For helping helped them to see ways they can treat people without having to go through the stress that is not certain: BLOOD TRANSFUSION!🙂

Stayingalive:
Abeg Abeg. Come dey go. Nor vex

Nah you dey vex for another person matter o!🤣

Why are you running away from truth nah!🤣

Jesus has told you the process to become a Born Again {John 3:3-5} and there is no Born Again in the Bible who died the same day he became Born Again because they must WORK for their salvation!🙂

FxMasterz:
Since you refused to answer my questions, I'll come again:

Since he was not apparently not born of water, he cannot enter the kingdom of God?

You didn't answer my questions at all.
1. What is the process for becoming born again as a JW?
2. If a man gets born again today and dies today, would he be saved?

Stayingalive:
I can’t ever take your kind serious. So nor vex

Good!
Faith is not a possession of all kinds of people o! 2Thessalonians 3:2🙂

Eldeedon:
You really they funny me I swear.

What you failed to see is faith in action!🙂

People studied the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses conscientiously and willingly agreed to live by what they believe so if those taking the lead tells them what they discovered as truth in the Bible do you think it's compulsory or each person will decide whether to adhere or not just as they willingly agreed.

So if you who has no faith seems what they are doing is wrong that's your own personal opinion as long as they aren't forcing their beliefs on anyone!🙂

Eldeedon:
YES! because as a publisher its a must for you to have one ! So again yes...

NO you lied!
A member of the congregation owns the card to help identify himself anywhere he/she goes as a JW so if you choose not to have it nobody can force it on you!🙂

Faith is not about what we know 100% but God's people move together as One family. Surely things weren't clear on the matter before now but thanks to the holy spirit we now have a perfect understanding regarding that Bible verse!🙂

Eldeedon:
If it were last week, would you say exactly what you just said? Now! All of a sudden you realize it is not logical and it needs correction! Sometimes when some of you talk, shame dey catch me... That was how a mother I know was bullying the daughter anytime this girl wore trousers, In fact this woman will go as far as using scissors to cut the trousers into pieces. But immediately they announced that it was now okay to wear trousers, that year convention this woman wore trouser to the program! So, tell me, who is fooling who?

TONYE001:
See, don't avoid the question, please.

You and I know the answer.

OK, since you say the organization doesn't make choices for people, let me rephrase.

Prior to this report, do you think a majority of JW accepted autologous blood transfusion?

Yes or No.

If you know the answer to your question then there is no reason asking someone else nah!🙂

femi4:
Write out where medication was mentioned...ignorance = 100

OK it's now medication not blood again shey?🤣

Thanks jàre!🤣

MrEar:
Congratulations Mr Max.
Your leaders have finally given you permission to transfuse your own blood. Too bad many have died before the permission came. Jehovah was probably very busy he didn't have time to inspire your leaders to create a new policy.
Very soon they will give you permission to celebrate your own day of birth.
The light gets brighter.

Lovelink1991:
It is even on front page now, go and verify from front. I am happy that it is from the website of JW. You are not a JW. go and rest

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself there is no single BROCHURE with such info it's strictly for JWs only so we don't mention what doesn't concern the general public in any of our brochures!😀