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MaobiCarl:
So Where's the lie in the original post?

Do you guys take take blood transfusions before or not?
Is it the scriptures or the governing body that updated the policy on "no blood transfusions" to allow taking your own stored blood transfusions, today?
The governing body interprets the scriptures for you because you guys have no brains or probably can't read the bible.
How did a symbol of life become the essence of life??
This isn't an update but a total change of blood doctrine invented by a drunkard trying not be part of the world

MetalJigsaw:
So you are a god like your master tried to claim in heaven before he was booted out🥱.right?

"Read the Bible" you'll say no!😀

Lovelink1991:
The presenter read it from the brochure the process you need to do blood transfusion in JW. Go and learn it from her mouth and inform others about it.

JWs are correcting you yet you keep on repeating the same thing.
Ọmọ there is no such thing in any of our brochures it's the latest update that just came out this week so that person is lying to you!😟

Onyemaboy:
Do I regard the op as an apostate or what? Can he clarify further on the position of the governing body as regards to blood transfusion?

He is a critic of God's word:

MaobiCarl:
The Bible was created by the orthodox Church fathers.

So he doesn't have any regard for what is found written in God's word!

Lovelink1991:
For your information the presenter who explain it on the video is a JW and he read it from the brochure. It has nothing to do with YouTube link but the content from your brochure. You have not watch and correct the wrong or approve it, you are from a far distance condemning it. You are not current about the happenings in JW

They are bloggers seeking traffic on their webpage this info just came out this week but it's not new to JWs blood is the issue not transfusion as long as it's my own blood as in what runs in my veins it could be removed and given back to my body what i detests is blood from external sources.
God's word says it's not safe!😟

You are misapplying what God's word said!

The Israelites knew that the Christ must die a sacrificial death before they can be redeemed! Isaiah 53:11-12
So when a thief was about to die with Jesus he recalled this prophecy and instantly he realized that Jesus must be the Christ whose sacrificial death will take away the sin of the world because with all his miraculous powers he will not think of escape! Luke 23:42

The love Jesus is talking about there is doing what we will like others to do for us when we need help to our neighbor that law will only guide the Israelites till the Christ comes it will not save them that's why God told their ancestors that a prophet is coming to teach them the way to gain salvation! Deuteronomy 18:18

DeepSight:
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Must I spell it out to you?
The point is this: The parable shows what exactly is needed to enter the kingdom of heaven. Remember that Jesus was asked this question and he replied saying love God and love your neighbor. He was then asked who a neighbor is and he replied with the parable of the good Samaritan. In so doing he showed that that essential love is what is required and not any pagan belief in any blood ritual of murder by torture.

immortalcrown:
My question to you is whether the leadership of JW did what this post claims the leadership did.

The post is misleading!

Those taking the lead among us speak with us about a clearer application of what the scriptures say so it's left to each person either to do what Paul said or not! Hebrews 13:7, 17

MaobiCarl:
There's no lie in my post.. I didn't quote any other source but there own source.. That's why you can see the clown trying to attack me personally questioning not the source but my character

Do you believe the Bible?🙂

immortalcrown:
You have not answered my question.
Did the leadership of JW give JW members the permission or approval for blood transfusion?
Your answer should be either "Yes", or, "No".

There is nothing like Yes/No it's either you obey God's word or disobey!🙂

DeepSight:
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This is inconsistent. Why one rule for one group and another rule for other groups?
Jesus made it clear through the Parable of the Good Samaritan that all this is nonsense.

Abeg how does the parable of the good Samaritan apply to what we are saying here?

Perhaps you don't know the Samaritans and Jews are all Israelites so they have God's law unlike pagan nations!🙂

Lovelink1991:
Did you know you will use phone century's ago, did you know that the things that are presently now will be before?
You people should look into the spiritual interpretation of those scripture not the physical interpretation

Oya say the SPIRITUAL interpretation o!🙂

Lovelink1991:
So you are quoting the word to claim what you were not there for.
I believe you the meaning of the word WITNESS?
Now Iran and Isreal/America what have you people who claim to be jehovah witness done about it base on your quoted scripture. Who declare you people witness to the word of God because Christian were give that name in Ethiopia.

Please try to quote the Bible to back whatever you want to imply.
God's word didn't say Servants of God will stop people from killing people but they will not be part of such barbaric acts! John 17:14-16

MaobiCarl:
I wish you guys abstained from sexual immorality like you did on blood.
Continue deceiving yourself.
Have a nice day.

So do you believe what is found written in the Bible?🙂

immortalcrown:
The post says that the leadership of JW has approved blood transfusion for the members of JW. My question is, did the leadership give the approval or is the post lying against the leadership?

That's why i said the post is misleading because we are living by Bible standard as those taking the lead among us guides.
So if anyone trusts in the scriptures he or she will submit not to them but what is found written in the scriptures! Hebrews 13:7🙂

FxMasterz:
Since he was not apparently not born of water, he cannot enter the kingdom of God?
You didn't answer my questions at all.
1. What is the process for becoming born again as a JW?
2. If a man gets born again today and dies today, would he be saved?

Do you believe what Jesus said about the process of becoming born again?
Was the thief qualified?
Was Jesus lying about the process?🙂

Lovelink1991:
So it is a good decision they made for one to drain his own blood and store it waiting for when it will transfuse2back into the person's body back?

Do people think of blood transfusion in a century ago?
Of course it's health issues that warrants different approaches to treatment nah.
So if that is what will help keep the person alive there is nothing bad in it but then God's word says blood from external sources is unhealthy!

Lovelink1991:
How come they were able to be witness of jehovah

Good question!
Jehovah promised to use His word and cure the mental illness that's making people to kill people in the name of war! Psalms 46:9

So what will serve as evidence that this God is WORKING among imperfect humans?
He foretold that during the end time when people all over the world will be fighting and killing themselves over politics and racism {Revelation 6:3-4} obedient humans from different nations throughout the world will come together and use His word to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves and they will not learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

The Bible called people who succeeded in doing this His WITNESSES! Isaiah 43:10
🙂

immortalcrown:
Let me understand your exact point. Have the leaders of JW approved blood transfusion for their members?

Nobody approves blood transfusion for anyone it's scriptural guidance about health {Act 15:28-29} but many don't get it clear that's what the update is all about.
If my own blood will be safely kept out of my body and transfused back there is nothing wrong according to the scriptures but on no group will i accept blood from someone else.

Do you get it now?

DeepSight:
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Personally I am not God so I dont know everything and I cannot know the answer to this question.

The answer is simple jàre.
Many evil people have lived and died without suffering anything else other than oldage and death which is common among humans.
So your Karma doesn't apply to God's word which is absolute truth.

DeepSight:
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Must it say the exact word when it describes it?
I hope you know there are many things that scripture does not mention but by description, the stance of scripture is clear.
You position is just like saying scripture does not mention not smoking marjuana or tobacco or sniffing cocaine.
But scripture talks about keeping the body healthy and holy!

The word Karma has its own meaning that's what i'm telling you and it doesn't go well with God's inspired message.
What Bible teaches is straightforward:

God will not protect anyone from the consequences of disobedience so we must be submissive if we want God's blessing and protection.

As regards people who don't know His laws God has left them with their conscience to judge or permit them in whatever they choose to do! Romans 2:14-15

The idea of a perfect human life to pay for the sin of mankind is not automatic as you erroneously concluded Adamic sin brought sickness, oldage and death something God will remove only after another perfect human soul pays to redeem obedient humans.

So Jesus' sacrificial death will allow us all to have a fair chance in Paradise it's then that wilful sin will no longer have any provision for redemption.

Meanwhile only people who knew God's laws and lived by them (RIGHTEOUS) and those who don't know God's laws but lived by their God's given conscience will be allowed to get that fair chance in Paradise. Act 24:15

Wicked people who have rendered their conscience dead will not be raised back to life they have had their fair share in life but proved to be useless! Psalms 9:17

DeepSight:
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This is what is taught in the bible.

It can only be tempered by genuine repentance as per scripture.

Tempered I said, not wholly removed.

The simple question is:

Are you saying there is no evil person who lived and died without your Karma?

God's word never mention "Karma"

So it's not what you are thinking!🙂

immortalcrown:
I am not sure you know the topic under which you have been dropping these comments.

You people are so eager to jump into criticism of faithful servants of God yet when you discover you're wrong you'll start changing the subject.

What is the topic all about, faith or health?

We are talking about health and God's word is clear regarding the topic:

External blood is not good for your health, that's what we are talking about not just transfusion.

Do you get it now?🙂

ExudeLoveToAll:
All of a sudden you now have this interpretation , what was your interpretation two years ago? Was it same interpretation if not something is fundamentally wrong with all of you. You guys are lucky you aren't prosecuted for negligence and willfully causing the death of minors.

It has always been like that the update is for some of our brothers who don't understand that transfusion doesn't mean your own blood is bad for your body simply because it was extracted and returned back to your body!🙂

This is misleading but most people don't care to Make sure of all things {1Thessalonians 5:21} i will help.

The scriptures says:
"Abstain from BLOOD"
Genesis 9:4
Leviticus 17:11, 14
Deuteronomy 12:16, 23
Act 15:20, 29; 21:25

In all the above God's word is talking about blood from external sources not your own blood that could be drained and transfused back into your body!🙂

DeepSight:
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You are the one preaching a gospel of your own making, the many verses I quoted speak for themselves.

One simple question:

Are you saying everyone who happens to be wicked must suffer or experience your so called Karma?🙂

Karma is not what the Bible is talking about o!😟

God's word is talking to His worshipers who feels they can be wiser than Him so when any of God's servants refuses to accept His counsel such a person will not be protected from the consequences of his or her own actions.

Many wicked people have lived wickedly and died without any punishment apart from the common natural death affecting everyone but no servant of God in the Bible escapes the consequences of disobedience.

That's what the Bible is saying Sir!🙂

DeepSight:
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The Bible itself preaches Karma -

Galatians 6:7–8: "Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life."

2 Corinthians 9:6: "Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously."

Matthew 7:1–2: "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

Luke 6:38: "Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

Obadiah 1:15: "As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head."

Proverbs 22:8: "Whoever sows injustice reaps calamity, and the rod they wield in fury will be broken."

Proverbs 26:27: "Whoever digs a pit will fall into it; if someone rolls a stone, it will roll back on them."

Job 4:8: "As I have observed, those who plow evil and those who sow trouble reap it."

Thus you can see that the teaching of Karma is spread all over scripture.

DonEd:
Please explain how one's blood would be drained and trabfused back. Whats the essence of draining one's blood only to put it back?

When necessary it's done during surgery!

immortalcrown:
Where you quoted in the Bible is talking about sacrifices, not about medical treatment.

For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things:  to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29

What has HEALTH mentioned got to do with sacrifice?

So who sets the Kamal law you talked about?🤔

DeepSight:
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In my humble view humans die because matter is mutable, transient and not self existent. The body being matter must thus go through the cycles that all matter goes through. Thats all.
Let me just add that I dont believe the body is the human being. The body is like a covering, a dressing which the human wears in the worlds of matter to be able to work therein. Death therefore is little more than removing a covering, like taking off a shirt.

Davidson1010:
I'm happy thier have realize the danger of their man made doctrine. Same thing is needed in deeper life church.

Read the OP not just the topic which he used to deceive you!🙂

He will not respond to this!😀

Truthseeker10:
Since you accept the teachings of Christ, why do humans die and what is the solution to death?

Most of you running into the thread to speak against God's organization needs to know that the OP doesn't view the Bible as God's word.

This is his/her position regarding the Bible:

MaobiCarl:
The bible is a collection and library of books. Collected by men. Nothing was divine about the collection(study a secular history of the Bible). The Bible was created by the orthodox Church fathers after reaching a consensus as to which books should be read in church or not. Every book of the Bible is on its own

So if you claim to be a believer in God's word be careful of people like this who are out to blasphem the Bible.

The Apostles and Elders in Jerusalem sent these word to Christians globally:

"For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things:  to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29

So this is not just about religion rather our health and researchers today have found out that blood transfusion is full of hazards but God's people needs to know that even though we abstain from external blood we can't abstain from our own blood.

That's the message sent to Jehovah's Witnesses globally!🙂

FxMasterz:
Did that Robber not die the same day he accepted Jesus as his Lord?

Regarding being Born Again Jesus said:

“Most truly I say to you, unless anyone is born from water and spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.  What has been born from the flesh is flesh, and what has been born from the spirit is spirit." John 3:5-6

So that thief was never a Born Again he is just a Christian and not all Christians becomes Born Again!🙂