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MrPresident1:
So that means that we can call Jehovah witness, born agains. We can use it interchangeable, Jehovah witness or bornagain

WE will not respond to that our group name is "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" only few among millions of us are Born Again and they don't brag about it so none of us will answer you if you address us as Born Again.

According to Daniel 2:44 the last system of government Satan will introduce is DEMOCRACY before God's Kingdom (government) destroy all of them.
So there is no physical single nation on this planet that's doing God's will today!

DMCA:
It clearly explains itself.
Marriage brings a burden and paul advices us not to marry so as we will be free

OK.🙂

bobestman:
You are just a scriptural olodo. You just thief verses you have no knowledge and attach JW to them.

Prove me wrong by presenting a group of worshipers who are fulfilling all these prophecies nah!🙂

MrPresident1:
When they were first named in Antioch, were they called Jehovah witness or born agains?

That's not the first time they were named but that's the last time worldly people choose to name Jehovah's Witnesses according to their thoughts but Jehovah's Witnesses welcomed it and carried it as their torture stake or curse.
Why?
Because the title "Christ" among first century Jews has become a ridiculous title as two Jewish men before Jesus has come to claim they are the Christ only for them to prove to be impostors! John 10:8 compare to Act 5:36-37

So when Jesus came he refused to tell the Jews that he's the Christ rather he expected them to reach a conclusion after considering his activities among them. Matthew 16:20

But even many of his own disciples turned their backs on him concluding that he is another impostor! John 6:66

So when they finally gave Jesus' friends the name "CHRISTIANS" Jehovah's Witnesses in the first century welcome it as Jesus as encouraged them to do which is carry their torture stake while doing what he taught them as his witnesses. Matthew 16:24

It was in the year 1931 that our God through the mouth of one of His servants declared the long hidden name that separates His worshipers from false religionists! Isaiah 65:15

Regarding Born Again that remains in the group nobody bears that in the first century because it's not a label like the group name given to ridicule them.

MrPresident1:
Are Jehovah witness people also born agains? Can we call Jehovah witness born again?
What is the different between Jehovah witness and born again?

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES began from the days of Abel {Hebrews 11:4} but Jehovah kept that name away for thousands of years until the last century after pure worship has been restored.
The last set of Jehovah's Witnesses will be organized under the leadership of a perfect human son of God that's what Jesus did teaching them how to work with God in gathering honest hearted and sincere individuals throughout the earth! Matthew 28:19-20

Now your question:

The term BORN AGAIN refers to humans who first followed God's perfect son in doing the work assigned to Jehovah's Witnesses in the last days.
God intended to select 144,000 among them to rule with Christ in heaven.

Jesus expected Jews to respond positively to his message the whole 144,000 supposed to be chosen among the Jews but 99% of the Jews ignored the message so after gathering few Jews who responded positively the invitation was blown open to faithful people among gentiles. That is why the chosing of Born Again ran down to our day.

When Jesus preached his own target is the Born Again that's why most of his comments is about them he later told them that another set of Jehovah's Witnesses will support them in the work assigned to the Born Again. John 10:16

First century Jews gave Jehovah's Witnesses many many names to ridicule them like:
"Members of The Way"
"Followers of the Nazarene"
"Christians"
Each of this group names was meant to ridicule them for the manner at which they were passionate about their faith.

So the Born Again among us can't be known by mouth they are observed by a ceremony Jesus commanded them to be doing yearly that is when we also know them because at that event they can't hide their identity they must be revealed that day.

Last of the last days!🤔

Janosky:
Yes . Very true.

Whether he likes it or not!🙂

bobestman:
Did Abraham save Sodom and Gomorrah with all his intercession? God only work with the FEw he want not the Crowd. These things are end of a certain age. When the age is ripe their will be a destruction by flood or water. A FEW is left. MANY are destroyed. You people are too small

God destroyed all living creatures on dry land but saved Noah his family and few animals in the Ark.

God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah but saved Lot and his two daughters.

God destroyed Jericho but saved Rahab and her household.

So likewise God will destroy all the inhabitants of planet earth but saved only those whose names has been written in the book of life {Revelation 20:15} how can your name be written in the book of life?

Malachi answered:

At that time those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance was written before him for those fearing Jehovah and for those meditating on his name. Malachi 3:16

That is what Jesus came to establish as the preaching and teaching program that Jehovah's Witnesses are carrying out throughout the globe today {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} so whoever is not studying the Bible with this group who are helping their neighbors to erase hatred, producing, buying, selling and using of weapons from their hearts of is doomed! Isaiah 2:2-4🙂

bobestman:
Jeremiah is who and from where? Their is always a FEW that God Always work with.

Did Jeremiah's faith saved Judah when God's wrath came upon the nation and her temple?🙂

bobestman:
Many JWs are evil. Will God condemned all JW for the wickedness of the FEW?

Are we talking about the few who aren't relevant or majority controlling the affairs of the nation?

Are the evil FEW in control of JW organization?🙂

FxMasterz:
Did you see any sincerity in anyone who honours God with His lips and his heart is fat from Him? Is there any sincerity in that, or you don't understand the Scripture you quoted?

Was Paul insincere when he was killing Christians?

bobestman:
Their must be rebels.

So when God said:

It will not be like the covenant that I made with their forefathers on the day I took hold of their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, ‘my covenant that they broke, although I was their true master,’ declares Jehovah. Jeremiah 31:32

Was there no one among their ancestors who kept God's covenant?🙂

Ọmọ few did yet God said their ancestors broke His covenant.

So your explanation failed because few back then also kept God's covenant back in the days God brought them out of Egypt!🙂

sonmvayina:
he is our resident lunner atic...you will do well to ignore him.

So try to ignore me!🤣

sonmvayina:
But you have proved that you do not know anything in that book, you pick and choose which passage to believe and most of not all the time you quote passages out of context and when I question you, all you do is "provide a better performing group as if that is the koko.
you really need to unlearn and relearn. you are definitely on the broad road leading to destruction....

sonmvayina:
GOD is the universal divine consciousness....
I won't say it again. we are all part of it and it is part of us...
There is no Jehovah's witness god anywhere, it is the poor interpretation of the scriptures by your GB that lead to all these ignorance.
waake up

sonmvayina:
Little Wonder.......Now is is perfectly clear as day.

Too many Gods jàre.
Each person has chosen to be his or her own God but at the same time each of them still want to project his or her opinion on others after claiming they are their own Gods and everyone could choose to be the same i wonder why they are worried regarding what others choose to do with their God!🤣

sonmvayina:
Which other literature have you read..

Literature has nothing to do with my life God's word has everything to do with me so if it's literatures that determines what you will do with your life ọmọ that's you not me!🙂

So you chose to learn from fictional characters but i only learn from real people because real people lived by the things they teach while fictional characters can't!🤣

sonmvayina:
yea, I reat a lot.
I have quoted Thor, Thanos and spider man on this forum before....you clearly understood what I meant....The authors of the story are very entertaining and educated. They know what to what to make their characters say and do.....end of the day, it is just a theological fiction.

sonmvayina:
Jesus did make a parable

Fictional Character you mean?🤣

FxMasterz:
They're serving God sincerely.
They believe in Jesus' death and resurrection.
The Lord Jesus is their Lord, and they walk with Him obediently.

Please explain what Jesus is saying here:

‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines.' Matthew 15:8-9

So you think it's possible to be sincere yet doing the wrong thing?🤔

What makes you sure of all these when you aren't worshiping with them neither do you know exactly what they are practicing as faith?🤔

FxMasterz:
Tell me why they won't be saved after

*believing that Jesus died and rose for their sins, and

*they absolutely depend on Him for their salvation, and are


*walking with Him as sincerely as they could?

Christmyhope:
Thanks 🙏 so much, I have ignored both..

Better!
Next time you see competent scholars of the Bible discussing stay clear if you can't explain what your pastors told you!🙂

What misinformed churchgoers failed to grasp is how Jesus used the Hebrew word GEHENNA to illustrate the condition of faithless people.
Death and Hell will be thrown into the lake of fire is an illustration because neither death nor hell is a living thing so the lake of fire represents complete destruction.
That's why Jesus later clarified what he said in the next chapter of Revelation:

(God) will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” Revelation 20:4

There won't be natural death again as God promised to swallow up death forever {Isaiah 25:8} and if there is no more death then Hades (Graveyards) will not be also then evil people who contributes to the pain and suffering of good people will not be again {Psalms 37:9-11} that is the import of Revelation 20:14-15

But misinformed churchgoers who lack accurate knowledge of God's word are confused regarding this!😟

Christmyhope:
Please,Which denominations of church do you belong?

Can you first mention yours?🤔

Christmyhope:
Why did the scripture call Abel,a righteous soul? I think you also know where the righteous ends
The scripture also says "Do not be like cain who belong to the devil. I think you also know where those who belong to the devil end.

So who preached to Abel?🙂

Christmyhope:
God himself did that.

So what was Adam's response?🙂

Christmyhope:
Adam went to the state of rest( dust) in the Earth subsurface i.e realm of the dead.

What is the difference between Adam and Cain?
Is Cain also in the same resting place?

Christmyhope:
Ask you a question but you have failed to answer me.
Did Adam look out for the redemption promised by God? Did he seek for forgiveness of his sin?
Your answers will give you picture of where Adam is presently.

Did any prophet preach to Adam so he could look out for redemption?
Was he given a second chance to seek forgiveness?

Christmyhope:
According to biblical studies, hell is often categorized into different compartments or stages, rather than a single location, with two primary categories distinguishing between a temporary holding place and the final destination.
The Temporary Abode (Hades/Sheol)
Term: In the Old Testament, this is called Sheol; in the New Testament, it is Hades (Luke 16:23).
Purpose: This serves as a "prison" or "chamber of death" where unredeemed souls are held until the Great White Throne Judgment (Rev 20:13).
Description: It is described as a place of torment in the story of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31).
Status: It is temporary; Hades itself will eventually be cast into the Lake of Fire (Rev 20:14).
The Final Destination (Gehenna/Lake of Fire)
Term: Gehenna (Matthew 5:22), also referred to as the "Lake of Fire" or "Second Death" (Rev 20:14).
Purpose: This is the final, eternal place of punishment for the devil, fallen angels, and the wicked after judgment.
Description: It is often described as a place of "unquenchable fire" (Mark 9:43).

Please which compartment is Adam presently?🤔

Christmyhope:
I never said Adam went to hell but those who choose to die in Adam sin

What is hell according to the Bible?
Was Adam buried?

After Adam's death did the Bible say he is serving another punishment?🤔

Christmyhope:
physical death is often viewed as a temporary separation of the soul from the body, serving as a consequence of sin rather than the final, eternal judgment itself. It is considered a "temporal judgment," while the final, irreversible judgment—often described as the "second death"—occurs at the end of time

Christmyhope:
What do you think that God did to all who put their faith in Christ Jesus till when he is revealed as the savior of the world?

Don't change the subject:
What God promised anyone putting faith in the Christ is everlasting life! John 3:16

The question is if Adam whose sin infected all humans only meant death for Adam then when did God change to make Adam's descendants suffer forever?😟

Did God forgive Adam or obedient descendants of Adam who are putting faith in Christ?

Christmyhope:
Adam's sin which brought condemnation and death has been erased on the account of Christ Jesus's death and resurrection. And anyone who continues to deny that Christ Jesus has given humanity victory over hell,sin and death is the greatest sinner even using the scriptures falsely to lead people to the devil. When scripture says the devil and his followers will spend their eternity in hell.