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Emusan:
So why chucking your dirty mouth to another person, when you know your organisation is also guilty?

Shame on you!
I never came to condemn TB Joshua what i said is simple "all religious title chiefs using the signs and wonders to woo followers are liars, God never promised gentiles supernatural powers" so if TB Joshua has his weakness that's normal as a human.

Emusan:
It is always hatred when it comes to Watchtower but when it comes to TB Joshua, it's BAD FRUITS that is exposing the fake church

Impatience and intolerance is blurring your senses! TB Joshua is just one man so all these accusations doesn't amount to fruit because fruit refers to what members of his church are known for so don't get it twisted if he has his own weaknesses that's his personal problem not fruit!

Emusan:
If the members don't have works, you won't be here talking about them. You can turn your blind eyes as usual but a little search even on Nairaland will help your ignorance.

This is why you're so ignorant. Can you mention the fine WORKS in accordance with what Christ commissioned that members of synagogues are actively participating?
Come on, the only figure people know for his philanthropic deeds is TB Joshua so his enemies aren't after his members but to destroy his church by attacking his personality in order to rubbish all his philanthropic deeds of the past.

Emusan:
Another diversion tactics from the common senselessness. Yes! People speak against Watchtower and you can see it all around but you'll block your hear of hypocrisy and pretending as if you didn't hear. Good, as key people in your Watchtower never confirmed RAPING PEOPLE, practicing child abuse as well?
Hypocrite!
Fact! Watchtower has more case of child abuse times ten of TB Joshua. Have you ever talked about it before? Hypocrite!

The people accusing Watchtower are targeting the group not the leaders because it's members of the group that's going from house to house to snatch their church members but do yourself a favour by fishing out child molesters in your own community who are Jehovah's Witnesses. You can't accuse a child of stealing and you say it's his mother's money that was stolen while the mother is not complaining yet you want everyone to stigmatize the child as a thief when he never stole your own money nah!

Emusan:
Right here is the fact...
Finally, the lying mouth is exposed.

Guy he just dey pain you as there is no group you can present that's performing better than God's organization under the supervision of the Governing Body!
So they can't be mere humans yet performing what no other religious group can perform.

Jesus said:

"With man it's impossible to do God's will"

So continue deceiving yourself that the Body doing God's will is the same as human government!

Emusan:
I know he will chuck his dirty mouth.
Had it been it's Watchtower now, you'll say it's a sponsor documentary or it's from the enemy just as followers of TB Joshua has done.
Meanwhile, many articles that had exposed your Watchtower of their fake fruits are like thousands to just one of this T B Joshua.

The one and only organization of imperfect humans doing God's will today!

Your hatred can't change that, TB Joshua was doing what people around him like so it's the media against those benefiting from his philanthropic deeds.
What exactly is the works of members of his church?
That's what intelligent observers should ask not just judging only the founder simply due to his past deeds.
The organization you're speaking of has erased the use of weapons in the hearts of all their faithful members globally just as God's word says! Psalms 46:9; Isaiah 2:4; Matthew 26:52
So when talking about killings here and there due to politics {Revelations 6:3-4} this group is no part of such. John 17:14
Therefore if anyone is saying anything against such an organization then let them speak on what is happening in their own neighbourhood not reports you can't confirm in your own locality.
TB Joshua is dead and nobody is saying members of his church are raping their children rather their target is the dead man.

Ọmọ God's organization remains the one and only group that you can't find a better performing group on this planet. Ask those commenting against Synagogue they will start mentioning different religions they belong to.
You can't mention your own because you know that it can't withstand Jehovah's Witnesses in fine works!

Emusan:
Metaphor kor mental disorder ni
Yes! That your gods in Warwick are human government.

Human government doing what only angels can do.
No wahala!

Emusan:
And your response was senselessness as usual.
You said THEY ARE ANGELS

This is from the horse mouth "That's what they are! Angels in human flesh, so know that today born again Christians aren't humans no more..."

So you don't know metaphorically speeches anymore?
Well when someone say "you're an angel" it doesn't mean the person in question has become an angel literally but he or she is doing the work that only angels does or can do!

Only the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses successfully gathered millions in all the nations on this planet and ERASED the use of weapons against humanity from their hearts {Isaiah 2:4} that's what God promised in the Bible {Psalms 46:9} so even the most heartless human on this planet will agree with me that a group of men who could achieve that throughout all the places with their teachings are angels in human flesh! Matthew 7:16-18
Ọmọ hatred for the truth can't change that!

What is the fruit expected to a ministry that's of God? Matthew 7:15-23

People putting on the outward appearance of sheep but inwardly are wolves can be figured out only through the activities of their members in the society not by looking at them because the more you look the less you see!

Emusan:
Later you be saying nonsense that spirit can't dwell in human flesh.

This is the only sensitive point!

NO spirit dwells in them rather they have made what Jesus taught them their own that's why God anointed them with the Holy Spirit which means they are marked as prospective corulers with Christ in heaven that's why they have to continue working towards putting on the New personality that was created in the image of God through what Jesus taught them.

Not that something is living inside them o!

Lucifyre:
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The irony of this waffle considering all the brutal killings and more in your bible. Lol!

Brutal killings of creatures whose death is sure whether quickly or later.
You need to know the difference between the three first rebels and imperfect humans who has expiring date, there's no reason to allow them live when God's program is ongoing to resolve issues.
For instance consider an adversary who claims he is better than you in handling matters and any of his agents he is using.
If your adversary dies you can't win because people will say it's due to his death that what he claimed wasn't actualized but what about his agents who are irrelevant regarding the challenge? Do you think their destruction has anything to do with the challenge?
Of course not he supposed to continue his own plans without obstructing yours but if his agents comes close to your plans taking them away doesn't mean you're intolerant most especially when the original challenger still lives to work at what he said without disturbing your own plans.

thinkmoney:
Kai my brother, e don do abeg. I dey get headache already. Na only u understand wetin u dey talk oh. That portion of the Bible is clear enough and I no see where old and new covenant take enter

The hard fact is that God never promised anyone outside Israel the supernatural powers to perform miracles, it's strictly for Israelites and for the benefit of Israelites only!

All other nations have their gods so the true God wants those gods to prove their worthy by doing what He is doing for the children of Jacob (Israel) that's why Micah said:

For all the peoples will walk, each in the name of its god, But we will walk in the name of Jehovah our God forever and ever. Micah 4:5

That's why Jesus refused to heal the daughter of a none Israelites who came begging Jesus for what wasn't for the benefit of people from other nations:

And look! a Phoe·niʹcian woman from that region came and cried out: “Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David. My daughter is cruelly demon possessed.” But he did not say a word in answer to her. So his disciples came and began to urge him: “Send her away, because she keeps crying out after us.” He answered: “I was not sent to anyone except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” But the woman came and did obeisance to him, saying: “Lord, help me!” In answer he said: “It is not right to take the bread of the children and throw it to the little dogs.” Matthew 15:22-26

So from the above scenario Jesus clearly show that miraculous signs and it's benefit was strictly for Israelites but other nations that accepted Christ will be richly rewarded when God's kingdom begins ruling the earth that is if they successfully endure to the end! Matthew 24:13

However the reason why miracles was granted to the Israelites was because the spiritual temple (Apostles) were still in Jerusalem after they were scattered from Jerusalem the city was destroyed and all supernatural powers to perform miracles seized! 1Corinthians 13:8-10

Whoever wants to worship the true God now must have LOVE for God because faith may be weakened, hope may die but love endures forever! 1Corinthians 13:13

Anyone performing miracles today in Jesus name is working for Satan the devil to deceive unwise people who are looking for quick solutions to the problems Jesus already told us that we must ENDURE TO THE END FOR OUR SALVATION! Matthew 24:13

Emusan:
Has me and you ever agree on Born Again Christian meaning before?
Of course they are ANGEL not human

That's what they are!
Angels in human flesh so know that today born again Christians aren't humans no more that's what differentiate them from all other humans because they've been born of spirit {John 3:5-6} Jesus said if they faithfully finish their earthly mission they will no longer resurrect as humans but as what God's Holy Spirit turned them to: angels! Luke 20:34-36

Emusan:
Lie lie you called hard fact.
Have you seen gun in my hand before or I killed someone? So, how will you lie that politicians gave me gun to go and kill people?

Are you not the same person arguing that you want human ruler?
Are you not the same person claiming you must defend your country?
Guy when you're arguing try to reason deeply because each point raised will prove a point that you may not even suspect.
If you're advocating for human government and soldiers to defend your country then you are in support of killing your neighbour at the order of politicians who will hide their own children but order you (who believes in defending your country) to go kill or get killed!

Emusan:
You can keep changing your lying mouth but the point already established.
They are human ruler.

Later you will start arguing that you know the meaning of BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS.
Those that has been anointed with God's Holy Spirit you're calling humans when there is no single evidence that their works are of the flesh!

Emusan:
Irrelevant as usual

All those hard facts will be IRRELEVANT to you now since humans governments can't perform excellently the way Governing Body has done!

Emusan:
Are you asking me?

So they're not human government but God's anointed Kings and Priests to rule with Christ Jesus in heaven that's why people from all over the world are OBEDIENTLY SUBMISSIVE to them without territorial barriers or threats of weapons!

Your human rulers will send you to go and get killed for their geographical territory brainwash you that you're fighting for your country whereas their own children are a safe somewhere. Governing Body will do everything within their capacity to stop disciples from picking up weapons against anyone not to talk of sending them out to fight for territories.

Ọmọ God's chosen ones totally differs from your elected human rulers!

Ken4Christ:
The evil bow before the good and the wicked at the gate of the righteous.

Guy if he will bow there's no reason to destroy him but because he is battle prepared for showdown that's why he must be destroyed.
So stop deceiving yourself no human can succeed in doing God's will politics under his nose!

Ken4Christ:
Satan off course. But he has been defeated and will be dethroned at the appointed time. Jesus has been appointed heirs of all things. And at the appointed time, the kingdom of this world will become the kingdom of of Lord.

Until he is dethroned no human can succeed in doing God's will under his control in the political scene!

Emusan:
The hallgoer miscreant just confirmed my point below. So God was not against HUMAN RULERSHIP. QED!

So who ELECTED the Governing Body?

Aemmyjah:
You want to compare Governing Body with political rulership?

The faithless miscreant doesn't know anything yet he wants to argue.

Governing Body rules over true disciples of Christ who are obediently taking instructions from them to know how they can do God's will throughout the earth.
While human government fights over territories to keep their slaves subjects under their control.
That's what worshiping in truth and spirit means {John 4:24} because worshipers of God may be living in any part of the world but they know their own rightful rulers to whom they must be obedient in order to do God's will with their fellow worshipers globally while Satan's agents and their own subjects will pick up weapons to slaughter one another including their so called "fellow believers" at the command of those keeping them in some territory to dominate them!

Aemmyjah:
Who was he referring to when he said that the ruler of the world will be cast out?

The church boy agreed it's Satan but thought he is wiser than Jesus and his apostles so he knows how to rule under Satan's system and still continue being a disciple of Christ Jesus!

YourFavEvangeli:
First picture is the king of the bushmen tribe in South Africa as recently as 2020.
Second are ijebu people (exact year isn't given)
Third are igbos
Fourth is a portrait of men who look like kings or chiefs. Exact tribe isn't stated but they're Africans.

This are pictures of people who aren't civilized but note that their Kings aren't naked like the others.
WHY?
Because kings and nobles do travel to other places for trade so in the process they come in contact with civilization but when they get back to their homes they don't impose what they've found so their people won't start suspecting them yet they will start dressing differently as kings and nobles.
The descendants of Oduduwa were civilized we already have our own rich cultural heritage before migrating to Africa. That's why his sons were made kings everywhere they go.
Don't think that all the people the English merged together as Yoruba were Yorubas!
Most of those colonized by the Ọyọ́ empire weren't Yorùbás rather they were taught the language so they can relate with their rulers, it's when the British came that they called all those in Western Nigeria "Yorúbá" not all of us are Yorùbá!

YourFavEvangeli:
unclothedness isn't poverty. Look at the Caribbean carnival where women are dressed skimpy, don't people from all over the world come to see and even copy?
Adam was naked in the bible, would you call him poor?
When God covered Adam and Eve with sheepskin, was it long sleeve? Or 6yards wrapper?
Living in Africa removed the need for clothes. Living in cold continents made heavy clothes mandatory. It became a matter of life and death.
In western countries, during summer, go to the beach and see people almost naked. Is it poverty?
Back to the argument. Trouser didnt exist anywhere on earth when Deuteronomy 22 vs 5 was written.
Trousers were first used in Sub Asia and then adapted by Roman Soldiers then horse riding men, then women.
Women were the last because women in the west were neither soldiers nor horse riders then.
Deuteronomy 22 vs 5 refers to homosexualism otherwise all the Scottish men who wear skirts are an abomination.
If à woman somewhere on earth can wear trousers and be justified before God, then Nigerian women can wear trousers and be justified before God because God does not regard traditions, only his word.
Its like saying the white woman can pray without a scarf but the black woman must tie a scarf or be an abomination.
Its like the white men having hair longer than a black woman's own and still being okay but mandating black men to cut theirs very low or risk being an abomination. (Meanwhile all the pictures of Jesus carry semi-long hair).
Who made culture? Men like me and you did.
Even if you argue that the culture hasn't changed. God doesnt care about culture and the traditions of men can and must never be preached as doctrines of God.
Mark 7:7 (KJV) Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
For it to be a law of God, it must be applicable to ALL. If the law can't be applied to women in India or men in Scotland, that's partiality and God is never partial.
Thaink you.

It's POVERTY!
No matter how uncivilized your people may be if you travel to civilized world for business you won't come back to remain the same like the rest.

sagenaija:
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They are the "chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light."
1 Peter 2:9

The highlighted word "they are" differs from "he or she is" meaning it's a group of people or organization (not single individual) working towards something very important: God's will.
So like the first century disciples called by the people of Antioch "CHRISTIANS" {Act 11:26} they are well ORGANIZED. 1 Corinthians 14:33, 40
Do you know them today?

Emusan:
Support your claim with evidence.

Body of your god banning fellow preachers is indisputable evidence jọọ!

Emusan:
You haven't provided your evidence.
But about losing members, rccg opens parishes every here and there and never sell any Parish like how Watchtower alwy do.
You you don't have point on that.

Daddy G.O. is scared of loosing customers!

Emusan:
I said you should provide your evidence...
Does your god support false accusation?

What other evidence again?

He used to be their daddy G.O.
Despite all the contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines he claims you're all body of Christ so why is he banning unification programs in his own church if not scared of loosing customers to invited guest speakers?

Emusan:
I only ask you for EVIDENCE of your claim.

So why are you asking me again, when you can easily provide your evidence?

Does that make sense to you?

Then you'll know your common senselessness is not common.

He's scared of loosing customers!

Emusan:
Where is the segregation?

Why is he no longer allowing external preachers?

This is really interesting!

Ken4Christ:
I know what to do when my time comes. It will be by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Under Satan's control shey? 1John 5:19
Continue deceiving yourself! 2Timothy 3:13

Emusan:
It's a common sense to you but if it's about Watchtower you won't take it as common sense. Hypocrite! You're still lying with your common senselessness I know since it's not Watchtower

Do you know better than your Adeboye?
Well all of you claim you're body of Christ with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines yet you won't agree that you're not of the same body.
Now
"YAM PEPPER SCATTER SCATTER"
"IṢU ATA YÁN-AN YÀN-AN"

Has made trailer to pass through your middle.
Sebi Adeboye bè your daddy GO, why is he now segregating some if you're all one body in Christ?

Watchtower has told you people that if you're not teaching the same thing you people don't belong to the same page but you will argue and insult people for telling you the truth!

Emusan:
Provide evidence for this.

Guy that's common sense!

He was playing the diplomatic game when his colleague Kumuyi refused to allow that but now that some preachers will come there and members are seeing the difference some will surely follow the new preacher to his church nah.
Ọmọ this one doesn't need a soothsayers!

Emusan:
Good! So the point is settled.
God didn't forbid human RULERSHIP.

Go and argue with 1Samuel 8:10-18

God forbids human government as for the Governing Body it's Jesus that chose them that is the more reason we believe in 1914 because before that year there has not been such a body after the destruction of Jerusalem in 33 C.E

That's why people from different geographical locations on this planet are submissive to them unlike your human rulers that you vote in vote out of power only for them to use guns in lording over you. The Governing Body never imposed themselves on anyone infact each of us is going to study with them and subject ourselves to them not your own government that you voted and later stage protests against them.

I'm not disputing that the Governing Body isn't a form of government but their government will not have an end because it's divine nobody is coming to vote them out and replace them like your own governments. Daniel 2:44

As for JWs subjecting ourselves to what your government says we are giving Caesar what belongs to him your government can't order us to make choices (voting) their kind we will never do such our government is not from this source {John 18:36} that's why we don't protest against them since we know we never voted them!

Ken4Christ:
What if I choose to be different. That most politicians kill doesn't mean they all kill. We still have God fearing politicians.

Ọmọ you don't know anything about politics!

There is none as in NONE that hasn't killed or had a part to play in the killing of people before!

No matter how good you may think you are once you move close to them they will initiate you otherwise you can't win a single house in your own village not to talk of a town. Anyone you see winning is already a member of the occult. For your information there are certain political offices you can't attain if you don't belong.

You think say nah child's play them dey do for politics?
Ọmọ it's the ultimate game of DEATH!

LagosSuperStar:
Religion tells us the devil is powerful and real. So powerful he had an army who challenged God. If someone has so much power to the extent of challenging injustice and inequality in heaven, what will he need humans for?
Humans are frail and their number of years are short. What will a devil need your death or life for. Human life is perhaps the best example of "everything ephemeral "

Hmmmmmmmm it's a long story but i will try to summarize it!

Satan would have been destroyed instantly the moment he challenged God's sovereignty but then how will other sons of God feel about their father if Satan was destroyed immediately?

God bless humans but warned them not to set standards among themselves instead they're to rely on God for guidance but Satan (wanted) to hijacked rulership from God lured the first human couple to rebel against God.

So if God destroyed them and created another set of human after their destruction that won't settle the case God doesn't want to be a bully that's why He allowed for time to prove who is right and who is wrong.

Satan who told them they won't die couldn't prevent them from dying after eating from the forbidden tree, humans have failed woefully to rule themselves successfully, despite all system of government tried by humans none worked out for the good of their subjects.

So with the evidence now God is about to destroy both Satan and all his demons after all the angels in heaven and faithful humans have now witnessed the fact that Satan was wrong all along.

That's how a real powerful and all wise person settles issues not just killing His opposers due to anger!

Chai!
So you guys don't know that each preacher is fishing for costumers?
Of course the invited preachers are taking away his followers after each program nah.