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Truths9ja:
you mentioned culture here, in Yoruba, Igbo and Hausa including Fulani culture, the women wear skirts or rapper why they men wear trousers 👖. You see that you are wrong with your opinion on culture. If we applied culture here, women will be wearing skirts everywhere.

So is Christianity about culture?
NO!
Otherwise how are you going to relate with your fellow believers in Indian where the official dress code for females is trousers?
So the case of trousers is not what the Bible is talking about in that verse because back then both males and females in Israel wear skirts not trousers!

Truths9ja:
Are isrealites not Christians again 🙄🙄🙄

NO! They detests Christ and Christianity!

That law wasn't given to Christians because Jesus commanded his disciples to go and make disciples in other nations {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} they're not to preach the laws Moses gave their forefathers those laws were to guide them until the arrival of the Christ {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} so after the Christ has come they no longer need those laws {Galatians 3:23-25} what they need is the Christ who doesn't teach them the constitution of their own land rather what will be applicable globally in God's Kingdom that's why the Israelites hate Jesus and his disciples with passion! Act 4:18; 5:28

Truths9ja:
nope.. trousers 👖 is men wears why skirts is women’s wears

We shouldn't allow some people to brainwash us when it comes to what the Bible says!
In Bible times the men and women put on skirts no trousers back then trousers is Western culture and they designed it for both male and female.
In som cultures trousers is their ladies wear it has nothing to do with immodest dressing as they go about their businesses.
However if we are talking about our own culture here the ṣòkòtò (trousers) is for males while the ìró (wrapper) is for females so it has nothing to do with the laws God gave Israel some 3,600 years ago.
The real import of that law is to curb lesbianism and homosexualism in the camp of God's people back then. For homosexuals to carry out their unnatural desire one of the males must put on the act of a female (act as the wife) and for lesbians to do the same one of the females must act as the husband that's what God's word is saying not what people are wearing outwardly which differs from one place to another!

Most people often say "I believe in the Bible" but they don't know what that means for real.
The word BELIEVE connotes TRUST so if you believe the Bible that means your viewpoint on issues should be based on what the Bible teaches not what others (who don't even read the Bible) feel.
If God's word said all the animals were brought before Adam to name them {Genesis 2:19-20} and they weren't hunting one another in Eden until God cursed the ground {Genesis 3:17} so that everything on it no longer serve man for good it simply means that's not God's plan from the onset that's why the scriptures say God will bless the earth when His anger subsides! Psalms 67:6-7

So please let me know how survival of killers is God's purpose for all creatures on planet earth!

paxonel:
ofcourse yes!
I have answered you.
I still believe that survival of the fittest is part of God's plan.
When you asked if i believe in the bible, i gave you my answer, yes!
Now, i have asked two questions,
I need my answers

The highlighted should be scripturally resolved! If you BELIEVE God's people should be deadliest killers hunting their neighbours, enemies and fellow believers in other lands please back it up with the scriptures.
I am willing to learn!

Truths9ja:
Bible forbid it in the Old Testament now.
Deuteronomy 22:5 says: "A woman shall not wear anything that pertains to a man, nor shall a man put on a woman's garment, for all who do so are an abomination to the Lord your God."

Laws given to the Israelites as the constitution of that nation back then it's not for Christians!

paxonel:
I asked those two questions concerning what you raised in your last statement on what we want to settle.
They are still parts of the things we want to settle.
So, please don't dodge the questions
I have read some your articles that teaches that you people are going to live forever in paradise, is that the answer to the first question i asked?
It's not difficult to say yes or no confidently

You claim to believe in God's word just as i also believe so after reading what the scriptures has to say what is your conclusion on the survival of the deadliest killers now?
Are you still of the opinion that God planned it that way?

Answer me first i believe it shouldn't take you more than just a sentence!

paxonel:
two questions for you :
1.Do your organization believe that when his kingdom begin ruling, his elects will live forever?
2. Are the pictures below photographed during Noah days or during when his kingdom begin ruling ?
Straight answers please

Please i hate hypocritical dodging of truth so if we are discussing about truth found in God's word let's agree on one thing before moving to another.
Are you now convinced that the survival of the deadliest killers shouldn't be the portion of the children of God or you're still in doubt?

Let's settle that first before we move to another topic, that's why i asked you first:

Before i answer your question do you believe in the Bible?

Because i have deep respect for God's word (Bible) and i believe it was inspired for TEACHING, for REPROVING SETTING MATTERS STRAIGHT and DISCIPLINING in RIGHTEOUSNESS so that a believer can be fully competent and completely equiped for every good work! 2Timothy 3:16-17


So are you now convinced that God's children shouldn't be part of those believing in the survival of the deadliest killers? Matthew 26:52

Kingsnairaland:
You mix truth with a little error
Jesus prayed for Peter yet peter struck a man with his knife and cut out the ear of the man
God wanted Moses to obey traditional rules of Israel yet Moses delayed many times and God angel (God) wanted to kill Moses several times
Telling people they will go to hell fire don't make them to repent
What makes people repent is when they see how Jesus suffer for them and how Jesus loves them.

Please quote the scriptures to back your point each time you're discussing with me.
Jesus never prayed for anyone unless those who are ready to obey him as master lord and king after realizing he is God's sent {John 17:8-9} go through the scriptures and see how most of his disciples deserted him because they weren't fully convinced that he is God's sent {John 6:64-66} Peter and the eleven were the ones who stayed with him throughout as they were fully convinced that he is the Christ {John 6:67-68 compare to Matthew 16:13-18} that's why he prayed for them! John 17:8-9

As for whoever refuses to listen to God's word they don't deserve prayer according to God's word!

Samunique:
Be deceiving yourself !!!!

My own brothers in Christ live in all those places without being attacked so if you don't know what Christianity entails you will continue to be deceived thinking noisemakers cursing people claiming they're preaching in your streets are Christians.

FRANCISTOWN:
Your brothers don't wanna see this🤣🤣

People only SEE God through their mind's eyes not physically so if you can show them what is visible perhaps they will be convinced.
However they're not my brothers they are just neighbours like you, whoever doesn't share the same line of thought with me is not my brother such ones are my neighbours!

The truth is that most people falling into their hands aren't sincerely seeking God rather they are worshipers of Mammon the God of fortune. If you want to know the true servants of God you yourself must first tell yourself the truth then it will be difficult for false religionists to deceive you.

So ask yourself: For what purpose am i seeking for a prophet?
If it's to hear about fortune awaiting you in the future then get prepared to be scammed!

paxonel:
of course yes!
And i also know that the bible isn't against natural events like struggling for survival.
There are no living thing that does not struggle for survival.
When you see lion chasing Antelope on screen, that is struggling for survival.
It is a war between the lion and the Antelope where the Lion needs to survive.

So, a most powerful nation like Russia will invade a less powerful nation like Ukraine, it is natural like the food chain.
If your organization is not invasive to it members, then the members are the ones invading the organization.
You have not seen a member who steels from the offering box when hungry sets in?
Ask David in the old testament
It is called strategy for survival.
There are no emotional considerations there

The highlighted is enough!
Now let's talk about "Natural laws"
The only purpose for which God created earth is for all the creatures to bring Him praise as long as the planet exist {Revelations 4:11} so saying the chaos and abnormalities happening regarding animals hunting one another for food is against God's will because God promised that when His kingdom begin ruling no creature will hunt another:

"The wolf and the lamb will feed together, The lion will eat straw just like the bull, And the serpent’s food will be dust. They will do no harm nor cause any ruin in all my holy mountain,” says Jehovah. Isaiah 65:25

When God asked Noah to build an Ark to save all the animals on dry land nobody can say the animals were hunting one another inside the Ark otherwise the flesh eaters we know today can't survive with straws.

So let's get it straight: the situation we found ourselves today is totally against God's plan therefore as God's children we are to put on the personality which was created in line with God's will! Ephesians 4:22-24

If we are God's children survival of the most deadliest killers shouldn't be our portion! Matthew 26:52

Jesus our Master Lord and King is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} so as disciples of Christ who are representing him {Act 1:8} how are we going to stand out {Matthew 5:14-16} if we are also killers like those under the control of Satan? John 8:44

If it's about what Jesus commissioned only North Korea has issues with Christianity for real the rest are due to misconception as a result of false religionists claiming Christians.

Jesus Christ taught his disciples to preach about God's Kingdom (Government of God) that supercedes all human government.
There are just two countries on this planet now that are standing against this concept:

North Korea! Because their president claims he is a perfect ruler whose authority shouldn't be questioned.
Israel! (Though not in your list) Because they're still expecting another Christ instead of Jesus who commanded his disciples to go and preach in his name. Although the Jews believe in God's kingdom but they hate the name "Jesus" with passion as they believe he was an impostor who deceived their people in the first century so they are still anticipating the coming of another Christ that's why they don't want to hear anything about Jesus of Nazareth.

Apart from this two countries all the others have nothing real against Christianity!

paxonel:
ok
ok
ok, let's look at the summary of the article below, about your group scandals.
Let's say, the scam, theft, fraud and other crimes involving money.
A jw member that scammed another member according to this article, isn't that survival of the fittest such that the scammer won the battle or war, while the other jw member who is being scammed lost the war?
Please think before you answer

Before i answer your question do you believe in the Bible?

True disciples of Christ don't participate in such unscriptural practice, we take each day in the whole year special, our prayers are the same. The only special day in the year to us is Nizan 14 of the Jewish Calendar because that is the day Jesus offered the greatest sacrifice ever on this planet and COMMANDED us to always remember each year.
Apart from that all days are the same to Jehovah's Witnesses!

Trust2001:
And how do you know that the holy spirit is living in you

The Holy Spirit is like the current of electricity that activates the believer to do God's will anytime we ought to, your soul must be receptive just like houses in a street were built but only those connected to the electric poles makes use of electricity when the current flows.
So before God's Holy Spirit can work with you you must have been a student of God's word by so doing you're connecting your soul to the current. Unlike the power supply from humans that's not stable due to imperfection on the path of those behind it's source God's Holy Spirit is ever active no power failure you only need to connect your soul through careful reading, diligent studying, thorough meditation and fervent prayer! Proverbs 2:1-5

paxonel:
you mean, there are no members of your religious organization that were not killed in Gaza, simply because they belong to a group?

We don't believe in survival of the fittest that's totally inhumane to us so if all people are using their brains intelligently practicing what my group teaches there will be no more wars globally. That's what i'm saying.

paxonel:
knowledge and wisdom isn't the same thing.
If someone in the group claims to know the cause of HIV /AIDS and he is not applying the knowledge, then he is not wise.
These things are very possible

That means wisdom is limited to my group alone because all the people on this planet knows the importance of peace yet they're still going to war which means they're not making use of their brains like we do.

paxonel:
there is no one such group that is capable of protecting it members when the battle for the fittest arises.
The battle is usually indivualistic and irrational.
As a matter of fact, when the battle is becoming intense due to extreme shortage of resources, members of the purported group begins to cannibalize each other.
So, there is nothing like group in the real sense

Our group is doing the needful by impressing it in the minds of millions of our members throughout the world that it's insanity thinking you're wise when you know the value of peace but join killers when they're carrying weapons to kill and get killed just to prove their fitness!

Kingsnairaland:
One question all the people who Jesus prayed for. Where they holy before Jesus prayed for them.

NO one is holy {Psalms 14:3 compare to Luke 18:19} so in line with God's law Jesus never prayed for anyone until he was sure they were willing to act on what he taught them {John 17:8-9} that's why his disciples urged him to teach them how to pray {Luke 11:1} this won't be necessary if he has been praying with or for them in their presence.

So Jesus never prayed for people who are not willing to make amendments regarding their sinful habits. John 17:8-9

paxonel:
if the spiritual truly controls the physical, it means that these atheists will never have knowledge of the physical just like the way they lack knowledge of the spiritual

If atheists truly have the knowledge then how come they can't form an organization and make sure what affects others regarding WARS making people to kill people doesn't affect their group?

To illustrate let's say someone or some people claim they know what is causing HIV and AIDS do you think any reasonable people should believe them if HIV and AIDS is also killing members of such a group?

I asked:
if everyone wants peace why so much wars? You said it's survival of the fittest.
But there has never been any fittest group whose members don't get killed during wars so what is the essence?

paxonel:
there are reasonable explanations to all these questions that does not require spiritual remedy

I'm sorry if this question of mine provoke you:

Can you mention any organization that has a reasonable explanation to these questions and using such explanations to benefit their members so that others can be sure they have the answers?

Well i know an organization of worshipers that has used what they claimed is inspired by a SPIRIT and so far so good they're making the best use of what they have.
Of course they believe the spiritual controls the physical but i have never seen any group of humans no matter how educated or intelligent that doesn't believe in the spiritual yet able to explain why these things are so!

It's about what is trending and majority don't want to be left out. There is nothing like New Year celebrations in God's word!

paxonel:
and i keep wondering. How can a spirit that do not exist in reality control me that live in the real world, is that possible? When someone commit an offense and later says na Satan work, forgive me, does that really make sense?

You don't understand what that word "SPIRIT" really means!

When we say SPIRIT it's not about individuals but a crowd or multitude. The controlling spirit is in the air you must put up a big fight within you {Romans 7:22} so that you will not be carried away with the crowd who are influenced by the spirit in the air! Ephesians 6:12

Kingsnairaland:
Of course a REPENTANT HOMOSEXUAL can become a child of God:
Thus this is what I mean by thank u for saying the truth
But you are still wrong on not knowing what exactly the Pope said and you refuse to know the meaning.

Guy, remove that title and call a spade what it is, scripturally that man is wrong!
There is no blessing for homosexuals from the divine unless repentant ones just as it applies to all other sinners.

Why is it that man knowing for sure that he will die and leave everything for someone else keeps fighting and struggling to acquire it all only for him to die and nothing goes with him?

Why is it that despite all the promises of nice people we know dies immediately when they get the seat in authority?

Why is it that everyone wants peace yet there is war everywhere?

Simply quote: the spiritual controls the physical!

The only way to break free is accurate knowledge from above otherwise you will blame those killing their neighbours but when you are given the opportunity to decide what should happen you will kill much more than those you're blaming!

Emmanuel30a:
It is good to know or would be good to know that some people are earnestly(and pre-dominantly...) seeking GOD&THE LORD JESUS CHRIST... Doing THE WILL OF GOD&OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST WOULD&SHOULD BE PARAMOUNT...AT&FOR ANY AMOUNT AND OR MOUNT AND SURMOUNT...

Please i don't understand this message!

Jesus said:

"Many false prophets will arise and mislead many; and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold". Matthew 24:11-12

The love mentioned there refers to interest in things having to do with God so according to Jesus it's due to falsehood in most places that gave birth to ATHEISM.
If you listen intelligently to an atheist argument you will find out that they rely on the errors and blunders committed by religionists to forward their idea they actually have nothing more to offer!

Will you appreciate if we both engage in a Bible study on this?
If you would please get ready your copy of the Bible and i will be back by 12 p.m.

Emmanuel30a:
I thought there is no GOD, according to you...? Did you knows HIM, GOD? Where is HE?

The SUPREME BEING!
You and i are human beings so we differs in thoughts and reasonings in order to cohabit peacefully without hurting one another we need someone whose intelligence is higher than ours that person is GOD!

Aemmyjah:
Is Kumuyi now a Satanist?
See this guy making a fool of himself to save his face. Wetin Jesus talk, you no de do

It's better to allow him to continue deceiving himself at least it's now obvious that he never believe Kumuyi to be a true man of his god he's just following the crowd!

Kobojunkie:
Interesting assertions made regarding the person of Jesus Christ!
We are speaking of the same Jesus Christ who proclaimed that He came to save those who are cursed --- condemned---- by God , and not those who are righteous meaning Jesus Christ. He not only associated with them, ate with them but also called on them to come to Him to receive salvation from the curse of Death upon them, courtesy of God, and a path to redemption. He went everywhere the cursed went, attended their parties, ate and engaged them frequently.
I guess Jesus Christ did not Himself not know that He was to avoid all associations with those who were cursed by God.

You misconstrued everything!

To illustrate imagine the higher institutions of today where cultism, immorality and hooliganism is rampant. If we are talking about condemnation is it the institution that we are condemning or the acts brought into it which wasn't part of the plan when varsities were instituted?

In the same manner marriage was instituted by God to start a family but rebellion against God who instituted marriage is the reason why the first couple were cursed separately.

Note that God called out each rebel before pronouncing judgment against them:
Genesis 3:14-15 judgment on Satan (Serpent)
Genesis 3:16 judgement against Eve (Woman)
Genesis 3:17-19 Judgement against Adam

Please if some students are expelled or rusticated from a higher institution does it mean the institution has been condemned?

Kobojunkie:
Stop telling the lie in bold abeg!

God who instituted marriage in Genesis 2 vs 15 - 16 cursed the same marriage in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 24

God never cursed MARRIAGE otherwise Jesus Christ God's Son won't attend a gathering where what has been cursed was celebrated! John 2:1-2