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Most people often mimick what their so called "prophet" said about celebrities around them.

Uchesis:
so according to you, only those who married as virgins are enjoying their marriages.
STDs is for non virgins or unmarried couples.
You were unlucky bro. Don't generalize

The highlighted shows the type of god you're worshiping: Mammon the god of good luck!

Well i'm not saying nobody passed through the same potter without being harmed but it'll be wise to avoid such consequences if you've heard from those who have suffered it due to their inexperience.

Kingsnairaland:
Thanks for saying the truth on this.

It's the same thing i've been saying all along but that title "Pope" is what makes you feel the man in Rome hasn't committed a blunder.
No servant of God should bless what God has cursed homosexuality is a crime against God so servants of God should frown at it but when a practicer feels sober that's when we should help him not the other way around!

Kingsnairaland:
No one is arguing what Bible said
You clearly refuse to understand what the Pope is saying.

He told his church to bless each member of the Catholic Church even if the person chose to be gay and marry as gay but they should not bless a couple of gay.
So what the scriptures say is that practicers of homosexuality must be sober not proud of what is evil while expecting God's blessings.
That's what i'm telling you!

Most religionists often claim they got prophesy from God about popular people in politics, commercial and religious sectors saying God sent them to reveal certain things about them.

Is this truth or they just want to trend with the names of celebrities around them the same way artists draw popular people to make their advert to promote themselves?

In the Bible the true God only reveal messages about anyone having to do with His worshipers not just anyone who is popular.
So has the true God changed to start revealing things about every Dick and Harry when such ones don't even have anything to do with His worshipers?

Uchesis:
what losses are you living with because you didn't marry as a virgin (male)?
i'm eager to know

Apart from what religious books say i spent a lot on STDs, and after spending so much in the process of seeking permanent cure i lost self respect and that of others looking up to me, the lady i love so much her parents objected to our relationship the business deals her father wanted to seal with me was withdrawn i had to go from one herbal cure home to another, after getting the cure permanently the feelings my friends who married as virgins have i continue spending money to restore my own system so as to enjoy it.

All because i didn't wait for the right time!

Sand2022:
Out of context response. Try again

Explain what those scriptures are saying and the organization that's practicing it if not what JWs are doing?

MindHacker9009:
Your Roman empire idol 3 in 1 god in your idol Testament/New Testament is not the same as the True God of the Torah/Old Testament. The True God of the Torah is not a 3 in 1 god, His is The I AM THAT I AM AND THERE IS NO ONE ELSE BESIDE HIM. So go and look for your 3 in 1 Roman empire idol god else where sitting beside his father.

Guy Jehovah my own God is not 3 in 1 so you missed it big time!

ictplotter:
Understanding of holy spirit for a book that was heavily translated and edited by Satanic Roman and English emperors to suit themselves. What does holy spirit has to do with understanding a book written in a simple English?

All leaders lead by examples so they don't only speak but act in line with what they say showing them how to practice what he is saying.
So if you truly understood what Jesus is saying try to figure out where he used a sword to kill an enemy or where he supported his disciples to go killing their enemies.

These are the ORDERS he gave his disciples:

‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” Mark 12:31

“But I say to you who are listening: Continue to love your enemies, to do good to those hating you, to bless those cursing you, to pray for those who are insulting you."

"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves" John 13:34-35

So if Jesus' disciples are to LOVE their enemies, neighbours and fellow believers how do you think they will use swords? Matthew 26:52

I was once a Muslim so i know what your clerics do say when quoting Jesus out of context Muhammad who taught Muslims how to greet SALAM (PEACE) failed to ensure peace among his own followers that's why you can't produce any sect in Islam that are real peace lovers through whom people can learn how to make peace.

If you're interested in knowing the one and only true Christian group watch Jehovah's Witnesses closely. They don't participate in politics neither military services because they must LOVE their neighbours, fellow believers and enemies, something impossible if you're into politics.

Even muhammad can't fathom how to unify his followers in the face of racism and politics so Muslims will kill Muslims after meeting at Mecca and Medina for worship because Muhammad failed to realize that politics won't allow peace reign no matter how much they love your Allah Muslims will kill Muslims in the face of politics and racism something the real disciples of Jesus (Jehovah's Witnesses) will never do!

MindHacker9009:
Your fictional 3 in 1 god in the New Testament that says all fictional power is given onto him and those that believe in him will do greater fictional works than him yet none of you have done any of the things he has listed below. God Almighty of the Old Testament is only True living God and His is not your fictional 3 in 1 god in the New Testament that was crucified by the Roman Empire and 300 years he went to Rome to help them fight their civil war after his fictional resurrection and fictional accession.

Since you don't want to know the truth it's better to allow you do your own talking but note that Jehovah my own God is not 3 in 1

He is the father and God of all.
This is what Jesus taught us about the one and only true God:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’" John 20:17

So according to Jesus his father is my father and his God is my God.

Uchesis:
But you were not a virgin when you married your wife. Assuming you don't have a side chic by the way.

When traveling to an unknown destination would you like to experience all the dangers on the road? Or would like to ask experienced travelers the safest route?
Of course i never married as a virgin but i'm still living with the losses due to inexperience.

The OP asked a wise question so instead of giving him/her an unwise response it's better to let him/her know the dangers on the road in order to avoid it that is if he/she is wise.

The one walking with the wise will become wise, But the one who has dealings with the stupid will fare badly! Proverbs 13:20

Wilgrea7:
Your analogy fails terribly here.
There are more than one entity that claim to be "the God"
While I'm not necessarily saying there should be a logo or something, it is clear that there is still no tangible proof that we were created by one or any of the entities that have claimed to do so

So until we find all necessary details from some SUPERNATURAL BEING the argument about "God" will remain unresolved, those who trusted/believe in God can't be convinced otherwise while those who don't will continue seeking a reason why they should believe.

Wilgrea7:
@jaephoenix
I've been following a couple of these threads for a while. I can't help but salute your patience. One of the reasons I've lost motivation to post on here is because it's like talking to a brick wall. Certain people here who I won't mention, are more interested in just saying something.. anything. Even when proven blatantly wrong, they just run away from the thread only to repeat their debunked concepts somewhere else. It's not easy dealing with these. I salute you

The most difficult thing to do is convincing an adult who feels okay with what he's doing that he's wrong most especially when he has many doing the same with him.
The idea of a SUPREME BEING can't be swept under the carpet only for you to think you can change the mind of an adult like you to stop believing in something no matter what you say as long as you're not a PERFECT BEING with extraordinary/supernatural power your opinion will always remain what it is: your personal opinion!

EsotericTemple:
1. Introduction: Exploring the Distinction between Science and Religion
Science and religion are two fundamental ways through which humans seek to understand the world around them and their place in it. While science relies on practicality and claims knowledge through empirical evidence, religion offers a theoretical framework based on faith and spirituality. Throughout history, these two domains of knowledge have sometimes clashed, leading to debates and conflicts. This article aims to delve into the differences between science and religion, examining their distinct approaches, epistemologies, and the potential for finding common ground. By exploring this divide, we can gain a deeper appreciation for both science and religion and foster a more nuanced understanding of their roles in our lives.
https://blackheartbrotherhood.family.blog/2023/12/29/the-difference-between-science-and-religion-is-science-claims-with-practicality-and-religion-argues-with-theory/

Who gave you this idea?

From my own opinion RELIGION is SCIENCE on its own!
Just as we discover so many things we have come to see that the human brain has been programmed to think of worship and there is practically nothing anyone can do about it you either join them in one religion or stay away from them as if you're no part of the human society.
Whether you like it or not RELIGION is part of human life that no one can separate no matter the argument you raise.
Of course that is SCIENCE on its own!

Yemaya:
It’s the most unnecessary venture Needless self inflicted pain

Due to imperfection many have inflicted themselves all over with many pains in marriage but there is nothing sweeter than being married to your best friend! Proverbs 18:22

Dtruthspeaker:
By The Law, homosexuals, idolers and adulterers have a very serious case to answer because of the death penalty passed on them. Unlike stealing which is restitution and compensation.

So they can repent and completely stop committing crimes (born again) but no reasonable person can call them children of God unless and until they earn it.

I completely agree with the highlighted just as Jesus said:

“With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Matthew 19:26

So if they rely on human effort it's impossible for them to become God's children but if they submit wholeheartedly to God's will Jesus said all things are possible!

Dtruthspeaker:
A child of God never needs to stop the abomination since he never entered it in the first place.

A repentant homo can never be a child of God, his fate resrs on Judgment Day.

Of course a REPENTANT HOMOSEXUAL can become a child of God:

Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom. And yet that is what some of you were. But you have been washed clean; you have been sanctified; you have been declared righteous in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God. 1Corinthians 6:9-11

So any repentant sinner can become born again Christian but first he must put away the old personality and put on the new personality! Ephesians 4:22-24

It's through listening to the word of God which has power to reach their hearts {Hebrews 4:12} that such could be possible for God's word is beneficial for TEACHING REPROVING SETTING MATTERS STRAIGHT and DISCIPLINING in RIGHTEOUSNESS so that the child of God may be fully competent and completely equiped for every good work! 2Timothy 3:16-17

Marriage is not compulsory just as sex is not compulsory but if you ever want to have sex it must take place between two who are married legally! 1Corinthians 7:1-7

Kingsnairaland:
Please first read my first post up to see what the Pope said. Don't follow the crowd when you actually don't know what the Pope said
Read my first post here so you can see what the Pope said. https://www.nairaland.com/7949230/pope-issue-gays-still-within#127621851

This is what the commandment of God says:

“‘You must not lie down with a male in the same way that you lie down with a woman. It is a detestable act." Leviticus 18:22

So CURSED is anyone who approves/blesses such detestable act in the name of Yahweh the God of Israel! Deuteronomy 27:26

Thanks for your time!

Aemmyjah:
Best reply to give him
He's looking for someone to engage with
He has about 3 other monikers he uses to like and share his comments
If a mad man sees that no one is listening to his jokes. He laughs at it so he'll feel good...
Previously, I've seen him use the Bible teach someone that God is not omniscient but selective in his power of foreknowledge
Now, he's acting hypocrite
He just want aimless arguments

He has learned a lot from me but instead of admitting he sometimes uses what i taught him to argue with others yet his argument remains aimless that's why i stopped talking to him, whenever he quotes me now all i owe him is "OK"
After all there's nothing to argue about after i have given him that.

NO!

MindHacker9009:
The original Old Testament is the True word of God, but your New Testament is a fictional story.

If you believe in GOD and you truly know what that title means we wouldn't be having this conversation because GOD will not allow His word to be manipulated to the extent that the people who hated it will be able to overturn it's ORIGINAL purpose.
Let whoever has the original or those having it make use of it so that the world could testify to the benefit of that so called ORIGINAL you're talking about. Isaiah 48:17-18
In the absence of obvious benefits then the god you're talking about is DEAD you shouldn't be fighting and arguing in behalf of a god who can't ORGANIZE his own people for others to learn from them. Isaiah 43:10-12
The story of Jesus has done a lot in the things written as prophesy which should be fulfilled in our own time that's why your argument that Jesus never existed won't fly!

MindHacker9009:
The New Testament says it too, you just need to read the fictional stories with a clear mind to know I'm right.

Without the New Testament the Old is useless to me!

MindHacker9009:
The New Testament is a fictional story.

All you've ever want to say!

Maynman:
It also evident that your god lacks knowledge on certain things

OK

MindHacker9009:
The manuscripts for the New Testament too are fictional stories written to follow the trend just like the speaking in thongs and speaking in garbage today many people are copying just to follow the trend.

This is what i'm saying, you don't want to hear anything about the books in the first place so you're trying to condemn it no matter what is found in it!

God did not tell anyone that he is Omnipresent it's presumption from humans, according to the Bible God only sent angels to go and gather information regarding what is happening on the earth:

“The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” Genesis 18:25

From the above statement from God Himself it's evident that He is not present everywhere.

Thank you!

Kingsnairaland:
My friend a child of God does not seek acceptance for gay because God already said homosexuality is a sin.

What the Pope said is that the church should bless gay marriage as a way of accepting them in the society as normal people, that's what we are talking about not someone who sin and is not feeling comfortable about the sin.
If someone is gay and he doesn't want to continue in the act after knowing God's stand surely we will help him with prayer so that he can fight the habit through help from God.
But someone who doesn't even want to hear that it's against God's will yet demanding that he has a right to be accepted in the society we must not pray in behalf of such a person because God will not listen to such prayer. Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14

That's what i am telling you!

Kingsnairaland:
A worshiper of God can not practice it as a way of life. But can do it because addiction is not stopped in one day it takes time to stop.

Guy stop deceiving yourself, we aren't talking about addiction here, a chain smoker will not like his or her child to smoke because they know it's an addiction they would love to trash if they can. But a gay who wants to MARRY as gay doesn't see it as an addiction that's evil rather they're seeking acceptance in the society and if you don't accept them they're ready to fight for their right to gay marriage.

So it's totally a different ball game!

I only followed this thread to keep the records so that anytime you come up with criticism against any religion i will remind you that even your Kumuyi you criticized because of Christmas rice and chicken! Genesis 25:34

Do you take the time to READ the preface?

They will tell you that it ends at verse 8 but since other versions includes long endings they also copied it.

For instance in the interlenear this is what is found:

LONG CONCLUSION Certain ancient manuscripts (ACD) and Versions (VgSycp) add the following long conclusion.

SHORT CONCLUSION Some late manuscripts and versions contain a short conclusion after Mark 16:8, as follows:

But the most oldest manuscripts stops at verse 8.

So if you believe in the books you should be able to figure out which is true because Jesus only sent his Jewish disciples to perform miracles within the Jews {Matthew 10:5-6} and he himself expressly told a none Jewish woman that miracles and it's imminent benefit is strictly for Jews. Matthew 15:24
Moreover God has never empowered anyone outside the children of Jacob to perform miracles.

Now the ball is in your court!

MindHacker9009:
You just don's want to believe in Jesus christ in Mark 16:15,17 &18 as you don't want to pick up snakes and speak in Japanese so your excuse is that The book of Mark 16 ends at verse 8, are you not an enemy of Jesus christ by removing the things he has spoken.
Mark 16:15,18
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 "They will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all”

Continue the Ostrich game!

Mark chapter 16 ends @ verse 8

Check several versions then we can talk but if you're just interested in trolling it's OK.