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Sand2022:
I don't even need your answer on this anymore cos I doubt if you're a witness. The publications of JWs has proved that my point is legit. If you don't accept the bible, and don't accept the publication of your claimed religion, your biz.

So do you accept our publication?

God is LOVE! John 4:8

Worshipers of the same God must resolve all their disparities peacefully among themselves {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} that's what Jesus came to establish among faithful people as God's will!

Sand2022:
Your publications says:
As children get older, real effort is required to help them to appreciate that obedience to the lofty principles of the Scriptures leads to the very best way of life."
Another article says:
"In the same land, two of Jehovah’s Witnesses were imprisoned because of their strict obedience to Bible principles."
I don't think you're a Jehovah's witness.

So are you one of Jehovah's Witnesses?

I am telling you the difference between laws and principles but you're here trying to change the subject thinking it's about OBEDIENCE.

Well let me tell you now that JWs imprisoned for their faith stood for what they knew is best for all while other witnesses would run away without having to face such test of faith those that ran away won't be disfellowshiped o!

Sand2022:
So you no longer talk scripture but company? I didn't say it is uncompanied, I said it is unscriptural. You gave Ezra as example, I pointed to you how it was handled during his time, and other examples. When will you start accepting the scriptures and leave human thinking? So you should go and tell God that He didn't handle the issue of Eliashib, Solomon, David and the priests the best way? God made a mistake, He didn't understand how a company should run right? Or that God is not a good Father who should know how to punish His children? You have to attack scriptural truth just to support your religion?

Guy what happened to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES in ancient times were written in the scriptures as examples examples for us not RULES!
So if you know how it's applied practically just follow those doing so today i am telling you how JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are practically applying the PRINCIPLE today!

Sand2022:
You've not said anything. Are principles not to be obeyed?

OK i've not said anything shey?

Well principles doesn't require obedience it's a way of life!

Sand2022:
Even if that were so, punishing the person is also unscriptural. I gave my scriptural support for that.

You don't understand what the word "PUNISH" means!

We are talking about PRINCIPLES and someone who is holding a high position is relieved because he is not promoting the PRINCIPLE is that what you call PUNISHMENT?

Perhaps you need this illustration:

When we were toddlers our parents do force most of us to birth and brush our teeth before food they never wrote it in any book as laws but they religiously do this as if our life depends on it but today that we are grown ups each person is practicing all these things not because our parents told us to do so but we now know why it's necessary.

Now imagine a grown up who is to represent a company manufacturing toothpaste but whose child doesn't even brush his or her mouth, do you think such a person still fit in as a representative of that company?
Now if he is relieved for others whose children are doing well in this regard to occupy the position do you call that a punishment?

I was also a Muslim but today i'm proudly one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
You aren't talking about what the Bible say but what religionists claiming Christians told you so you need to continue asking until you find the truth! Matthew 7:7-8

May you have PEACE!

Sand2022:
So that's the answer to this question?
Well, if you see all those as principles found in the Old Covenant, then you should accept the principle at Num 12:6. Shekina!

Ọmọ PRINCIPLE is not by WRITTEN CODES rather it's what we fully understood how it will benefit us so each person is fully convinced in his heart! Jeremiah 31:33

Porksupplyib:
That is what the Apostles stood for?
But you have no biblical quote to back it up. Only heresays and ur own imaginations?
Simple drop quotations to this and I will agree with u. Stop saying "if u are not studious you won't get it"🤣
That is just a hoodwinking.

I have given you enough if you're not ready to accept it's OK.
Just do me a favor:
Tell me one virtuous deed that no members of all other religions can't fulfil apart from what i just told you.
Remember that all their good deeds will be trashed if it's not in tune with Jesus' teachings! Isaiah 64:6

May you have PEACE!

Sand2022:
While I respect your unscriptural views, marrying someone who is also a christian is not another faith. That is one.

My friend if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses we don't count you as a Christian.

Do you now understand?

KnownUnknown:
RAPE is RAMPANT among Jehovah Witness members, luckily their molestation acts has never ever affected those who aren't members of that group.

The highlighted is enough to tell you that all these allegations are lies!

If JWs are rapists how come none has ever been reported as raping someone who is not a member of JW?

We live in the same community with others yet our rampant rape acts hasn't cross over to the other religionists in our neighbourhood!

Can you say the same with terrorists?

Porksupplyib:
So despite our over religiousity we are still the same people

It's not over religiosity but orientation!

The whiteman made his slave to feel that their must always be those serving as slaves so that's why the slave (blackman) now feels like living the life of master to slaves right in the midst of his own people who were slaves to the whiteman.

Today each blackman feel like having a driver, a gateman, a gardener, a cook even a nanny for his own child and who will serve in all these capacities?
Ọmọ it's his own black brothers and sisters who has been deprived of the necessities of life so that they are pressured to take up such humiliating jobs.
Now the whiteman has developed his own country so that even his former black slave will feel better their than his own home because his brother back home is much and more cruel to him than the whiteman to whom he is ready to serve now as slave!

Courz:
Look at how they are kicking Mad MaxInDHouse Left right and center. If his fellow JWs see his comments here, they will disown him again and call him Apostate. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ọmọ i have successfully passed the info with calmness let him go and delete the truth from his brain.
At least now he has something to fall back upon anytime he remembers that nice people are found in virtually all religions yet the Bible says that whoever fails to BELIEVE (TRUST) in Jesus' teachings will perish! John 3:16

Let him go and unravel the sacred secret behind that and prove to himself why people must believe in Jesus as God's only approved Son who is the PRINCE of PEACE! Isaiah 9:6

May you have PEACE!

KnownUnknown:
while servitude and rape are rampant amongst them.

RAPE is RAMPANT only among just one group and their molestation acts has never ever affected those who aren't members of that group.

Haba! Is this how low your IQ is?

How would you feel if all the terrorist groups on this planet are just like Jehovah's Witnesses doing what you call EVIL only among their own members without affecting those outside their group?

Just imagine that whatever is called terror in this world is only heard but not seen nor affect those who aren't members of other religions neither can you point out one incident in your own neighbourhood?

Ọmọ lies are easy to unravel if you're willing!

Porksupplyib:
Ok let me ask you, why was this prophecy (you hold so dearly as the "Will of God for christians" )not preached by Paul and all these apostles? Why did Christ not preach of it as the Will of the father?
May God deliver you.

That is exactly what all the Apostles stood for but if you're not really studious you won't get it clear.

Remember that Jesus COMMANDED his disciples to LOVE one another just as he love them {John 13:34-35} and they are to have the same line of thought {John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} that will not be possible if members of the Christian faith are into military services in their homeland because politicians will surely instigate then to pick up weapons against their brethren in other lands so they won't be able to fulfil God's will as found in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and repeated at Micah 4:1-3

May you have PEACE!

vdestro:
Jesus returned and then corrected when He clearly Said when He returns He was going to Judge? By the way according to your madness did He die? Jws are definitely mad devils!

Faith is not a possession of all kinds of people {2Thessalonians 3:2} but instead of angrily spewing gibberish all you could have done is ask questions maturely or simply ignore!

There is nothing like soul after death because you are the soul and at death you seize to exist!

Porksupplyib:
I will continue.

I really wish we continue this discussion cause there's more to be revealed.

When you go to the market of course you will see lots of marketers displaying their wares and lots of miscreants displaying their stupidity but then a wise person will fully concentrate on what he has come to buy in the market.

This is about what the will of God means!

Porksupplyib:
This is more serious than i thought.

I'm sure by now you can sense that there is more to what i said than mere delusional thought.

If God's will is all about being nice you will surely find nice people in virtually all religions on this planet so why must such ones accept Jesus as Lord?

Well it's because God's will is more than just being nice!

Aemmyjah:
Minus the Bible account, the story of a global Deluge spans across all traditions amd legends about a global flood saving a human family and some animals
Keep showing ignorance

Ọmọlúàbí simply means Ọmọ tí Lúà (Noah) bí!

At a point in time God's wrath came upon all the inhabitants of the earth and only Noah's family was spared, ever since then Yorùbá always refer to anyone with exemplary character as Ọmọlúàbí!

Porksupplyib:
Now, since the origin of our talk was about. The verse in Matt 7 which U quoted earlier.
Let's take a trip into the Bible and see exactly what it says about God's will for christians.
A quick peep into Mark 3, from verse 31.
"31 Then Jesus’ mother and brothers arrived. Standing outside, they sent someone in to call him. 32 A crowd was sitting around him, and they told him, “Your mother and brothers are outside looking for you.”
33 “Who are my mother and my brothers?” he asked.
34 Then he looked at those seated in a circle around him and said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! 35 Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.”
Whoever does God's will is my brother, sister and mother. That was christ jesus talking about God's will. He was the same person who was quoted. In
Matthew 7:21-23 "Not everyone who says to me 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. So what is the will of God?
What was the will of God he was talking about then?
This is the question you must answer truthfully. Cus it seems it is where all the confusion for your sect lies.
I am definitely sure it was not this jamboree of "Destroying weapons" you are talking about. I will continue.

For exposing all the false religions on this earth today claiming they're also worshiping the true God i say again:

"May the true God bless you abundantly my brother"

Note that i will never ever call anyone "my brother" unless you're one of Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 12:46-50

So what is the will of God that neither Mary nor her other children were ready to do as at the time Jesus uttered that statement?

In the first century the Jewish nation was planning a revolution against the Roman empire because the later was forcefully ruling over them so Jesus who was teaching his own disciples not to think of evil against anyone as enemies {Luke 6:27-28} was like a nuisance from the viewpoint of his own relatives {Mark 3:21} that is why Jesus could say since they're not willing to take in the instructions he was giving others as Christ (God's Son) they're not qualified to be called his family in the faith! Mark 3:31-35

May you have PEACE!

Porksupplyib:
Now which work is JW doing to erase the making buying and selling of weapons in the world?
Please tell us. Cus last time I checked atomic weapons are still being produced. So try explain how JW are fulfilling "Nations will not take up weapons/swords against nations"

I'm really glad that you truly want to grasp that prophecy to the details and for doing so i say "may the true God bless you abundantly for considering the doing of His will" Malachi 3:16

First of all the scriptures say:
"Nations will not lift up weapons neither will they learn war anymore" Isaiah 2:4

Now remember when God promised Abraham that nations will come out of him {Genesis 12:2} Abraham never had a child at that time so let's apply the same scripture on each member of Jehovah's Witnesses found in different geographical locations on this planet:

Each of them is hearing the same promise as he OBEY the instruction from God's only approved son not to raise weapons as a means of settling disputes {Matthew 26:52} and this has helped us to stand out throughout the world so when members of other religions are supporting their politicians to fight and kill one another Jehovah's Witnesses are saying:
"Our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus has commanded us never to raise weapons against anyone to settle disputes"

No member of Jehovah's Witnesses no matter the nation you can find us will support wars in any form so when members of other religions are found in the military services learning wars Jehovah's Witnesses are in the streets preaching zealously and industriously teaching that God's only approved Son has commanded us to stop using weapons to resolve issues. Matthew 28:19-20

Instead of building weapons God's people are spending billions of dollars to make Bibles and literatures to use in teaching their neighbours how to apply what God's Son said!

So when Jesus said:

"bring these enemies of mine here who did not want me to become king over them and execute them in front of me" Luke 19:27

He was referring to all those claiming they know God but learning how to go to other nations and KILL {2Timothy 3:5} not only their enemies {Luke 6:27-28} but also their so called fellow believers their supposed neighbours {Mark 12:31} that they should LOVE just as Jesus did! John 13:34-35

That's why Jesus said he will tell them that he never knew them! Matthew 7:23

Courz:
Why is it that your fellow JWs denied you twice after seeing your disgraceful comments? Are you no longer of one line of thought?

Courz:
Cultist Maynman. Cultist Maynman! You are also in a Cult doing what Cultists do. Trying to swing people to your Atheist camp.

See your life?
You're even scared that an atheist has what it takes to convert you because you have nothing tangible to say regarding FAITH!

Courz:
Fornicator Aemmyjah and Mad MaxInDHouse, why did your members seeing your comments, deny you people straight away? Are you people no longer of One Line of Thought? No Unity? Wetin happen? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤔

We are here to make jest of you as you're trying to disguise as a believer yet can't present any gathering of believers as your fellow brethren in the faith but condemning all as CULTS.
So we know exactly what we're doing here just answer Maynman he is waiting for you!

KnownUnknown:
Ọmọ you have nothing tangible to say apart from the usual nonsense!

YES!
NONSENSE that has successfully erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons in the hearts of millions across the globe when intellectuals from all the earth have tried so many ideas just to make people think of peace, they introduced OLYMPIC, FIFA and so on just to make people feel that we are all one human race yet all have failed as members of all these ORGANIZATIONS are still fighting and killing themselves but one ORGANIZATION successfully did it making all their members throughout the earth (including those from the most racist nations) erased wars in their hearts.
Ọmọ you're 300% right, it's NONSENSE!

Courz:
Yes You love how Maynman is arguing with me because you are An Atheist today. You have dumped JW. No wonder your fellow members are ashamed of owning you. Your members in the other thread said he will use cane to flog all of you for disgracing them like this. Chai! Mad MaxInDHouse, you are finished! You are not conducting the ministry well at all. 🤣🤣🤣

Ọmọ answer Maynman jọọ.

I have done that several times on this forum so it's your turn to prove you truly have faith in Jesus of Nazareth!

Oteneaaron (Courz) started a thread and dropped hundreds of comments just to attack one single group now wants to use another tactics not knowing that maynman no be mumu.
Oya convince him that you BELIEVE in Jesus nah!

Courz:
I love this confession. Thank you Mad MaxInDHouse. How do you feel now that you have been exposed to be more of an EbubeAgu agent? You were forming local agent that can tell monikers apart. How do you feel now that This thread exposed your foolishness? By the way, how do you feel about the exposure of your Cult in the video I posted some comments back?

Ọmọ with this maynman can see that you don't believe in any Jesus, you're just a confused idiot!

Aemmyjah:
He has opened his own ministries na... Ministry with no mission
Nothing reasonable to preach
Any who does not give him attention is mumu, maggot infested, fornicator, Satanist 😂😂😂

Oteneaaron (Courz) has no ministry!
He wanted to draw people's attention to JWs accusing the group as cultists but he has forgotten that before he can do so without being called out he needs to tell everyone that he's not a believer otherwise intelligent atheists will tell him that all religions are CULTS.
That's what the atheist is doing to him now!

Courz:
How do you feel now that you have been exposed to be more of an EbubeAgu agent? You were forming local agent that can tell monikers apart. How do you feel now that This thread exposed your foolishness?
By the way, how do you feel about the exposure of your Cult in the video I posted some comments back?

Good!

So never say Jehovah's Witnesses swore not to engage you rather you're the one running away from reasonableness by editing our posts when you can't respond like a believer!

Idiot wants to disguise thinking everyone will be as stupid as misinformed churchgoers who join him in criticizing God's people.
Oya prove you're not a cultist because Jesus himself knew that people who don't understand what faith is all about will say he is the head of a CULT! Matthew 10:24-25

So in the absence of any religious group you're not a Christian in any way!

cornelboy:
Lol when did course convert to Christianity
You've in the past proved that all religion are cults. A no understand o. Please explain. Jesus is no longer a myth?

According to Jesus the founder of Christianity someone must have preached to you {Matthew 10:11-13} and taught you all what Jesus commanded {Matthew 28:20} then lead you to fellow believers in the faith {Act 18:24-27} so even though you're once a persecutor of brothers in the faith fellow believers must introduce you to other faithful adherents in the faith {Act 9:26-27} because there must be witnesses of the fact that you got baptized as a disciple! Matthew 28:20

Ọmọ oteneaaron (Courz) may continue deceiving himself his IQ can't beat the intelligence of true Christians, there's no way a real Christian will condemn the gathering of faithful adherents {Hebrews 10:24-25} because without them Jesus can't recognize you! Matthew 18:20