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MightySparrow:
Are you now angry for making you relevant?

If you can't acknowledge the truth then stop trolling it's evil!

PoliteActivist:
You keep invoking John the Baptist and asking me to mention where JW said world would end, well see below

You're so confused that you don't know the difference between events marking times and the end of the world!

You haven't quote just one publication where a SPECIFIC DATE was mentioned.

For instance
"the world will end on the Second of August 2023" please show me where such is written.

Remember John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth both said "the kingdom of God is at hand" 1900 years ago. Going by your analogy both of them are false prophets for saying that since the end of the world hasn't come till today!

EnvyandHate:
Yes what you say is true at the conclusion of the war that's why it says they shall beat their swords into ploy shares. You jump all the way to the end because you wish to avoid fighting. Yet did you know that mediation, treaties and sit downs are war strategies? Yes, that's why I told you you must learn to agree with your enemy. In war you need allies, spies and to bring some of the enemy to your side. You can't do this if you condemn them all. Muslims will not sit down with you if you are disrespectful to Allah, Prophet Muhammad and Islam as a religion. You do not have rulership in your bloodline and that's why you would never be of the Messiah bloodline who would make peace with many peoples. Freedom of Religion, if you allow the pagan to practice his religion he will see you as a friend. Well the same goes for Muslims who sincerely believe in the God of Abraham they will reason with you if you are humble. Most of them probably won't ever yield because like I said the evil Muslims are involved in Egyptian religion and a hypocrite is worse than a disbeliever.

Before Christ God's people do engage in wars because it's only within Jerusalem that those worshiping the God of Abraham could be found and any worshiper who lives far away from mustn't wish evil towards Jerusalem.
But when Christ walked the earth he said:

The hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” John 4:23-24

From that time onwards worshipers of the true God mustn't think evil towards anywhere on planet earth {Matthew 5:43-48} because our brothers and sisters in faith could be found there {John 13:34-35} or interested persons could also be found there! Luke 9:51-56

So true worshipers began beating their swords into plowshares when Christ walked the earth, therefore all those carrying weapons after the Christ are no longer worshipers of the true God. Remember what God said to Moses:

I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him. Indeed, I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name. Deuteronomy 18:18-19

That's why Jerusalem's inhabitants were cursed for ignoring the words of God as spoken by the Christ! Matthew 21:43

PoliteActivist:
See how you're craftly trying to avoid the question. Well I won't let you:
Question: does not JW shamefacedly teach that the world actually ended in 1917 - after they were once again wrong about it?!

When John the baptist taught his disciples that God's Kingdom will start fighting unrighteousness in the first century did he go about telling people or it's just within his own disciples?
Ọmọ Jehovah's Witnesses never published any magazine stating a date that the world will end so use your brain not what faithless miscreants are spreading up and down.

PoliteActivist:
Wrong expectation is different from repeatedly assuring everyone that the world would end and when it didn't, saying it actually did invisibly!

I have asked you to quote any publication of Jehovah's Witnesses where a specific date was mentioned regarding the end of the world.
Moreover that's not a prophesy because it's already written in the Bible that the world of wicked people will end so anyone echoing it is not committing any crime because whether it delay or not the wicked system of things will come to an end! Matthew 24:14

What you should be concerned about if you're intelligent is prophecies that has nothing to do with what the Bible foretold not what the Bible already said!

John the baptist had a wrong expectation of God's kingdom and that's exactly what he taught his disciples. Matthew 11:2-3
Some of them became Jesus' disciples and they also had wrong expectation of God's kingdom again! Act 1:6

Jesus never condemned any faithful individual for having wrong expectations because God's word before the coming of Christ already said:

For the vision is yet for its appointed time, And it is rushing toward its end, and it will not lie. Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it! For it will without fail come true. It will not be late! Habakkuk 2:3

With the above in mind all faithful servants of God are eagerly anticipating the coming of God's kingdom and this can't go unnoticed by faithless miscreants around them!

PoliteActivist:
I don't know how they could have succeeded in getting you fooled into thinking John's statement was same as JW.
Question: does not JW shamefacedly teach that the world actually ended in 1917 - after they were once again wrong about it?!

Do you have any JW publication where it was stated?

How can you be this daft?

Did John the baptist and Jesus' disciples had wrong expectations of God's kingdom?

YES or NO.

MightySparrow:
I am of living faith with living proof.
You don't still get?
Philippians 3:3
[3]For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

Idiot what OP said is that there's no reason for having faith in anything because God may decide to give everyone pass mark whether you have faith or not.
But instead of you to speak up you were quoting me and calling on JWs to come and talk!

MightySparrow:
You claimed your god lost power to do miracles and didn't speak to anyone anymore. This is a lie,He once called me by my name. Your own doesn't even know your name.
My own engravers my name on His palm.
You see ba?

Stupid old man!

So when someone called you it means your prayers has been answered?

Ọmọ your brains need a reboot because when people talk about answer to prayers it's not about hearing strange voice it simply means they got real help for what they're praying for that's what my own God did for me!

MightySparrow:
You get sense small and you have qouted good Bible reference. But, what about the weapons you fashioned against yourself?
Faithlessness and delusion.
They are prospering Sir

Hopeless and faithless miscreant.
It's me you're expecting to come and defend what you believe
Why can't you respond to the OP who condemned your faith if you have faith at all?

MightySparrow:
Aha, have you forgotten that you said your own GB god is on holiday? Senility is setting in small, small.

Answer the damn question.
Tell this forum how your god answered you that you think mine hasn't answered me?

PoliteActivist:
Don't know who you think you fooling. JW didn't say it's at hand. They gave iron clad dates. Not only that, when it didn't happen, they claimed it happened but invisibly

Can you quote any publication of Jehovah's Witnesses where a specific date e.g
August 2 2023 was mentioned?

Guy just as John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth keep saying the "kingdom is at hand" that's exactly the same thing Jehovah's Witnesses are doing till today.

Meanwhile did you know that despite being a real prophet of God John the baptist had wrong expectation of this kingdom?

Well he thought God's kingdom will come in the first century after baptizing Jesus so he began preaching righteousness instead of the job God gave him "prepare the way for Christ" that's why he was arrested by King Herod Antipas of Judea so he sent words to Jesus asking if Jesus is the Christ or they should be expecting another person {Matthew 11:2-3} Jesus' response to him shows clearly that John had a wrong expectation of what he was preaching (God's Kingdom) it's a gradual thing so Jesus made him understand that he's doing his own job for the moment {Matthew 11:4-6} this could have led to doubt in the minds of those present at the event that's why Jesus quickly spoke in behalf of John the baptist that there hasn't risen any prophet greater than this man (who had a wrong expectation of God's kingdom) Matthew 11:11-12

So only Jesus of Nazareth perfectly got the sense of the message about God's kingdom even his spirit filled apostles who were baptized with Holy Spirit didn't.
For instance Jesus reassured apostle John of his coming some 1900 years ago and John eagerly responded:

"Amen come Lord Jesus" Revelations 22:20

Do you think John could believe Jesus will still take over 1900 years before returning?

Ọmọ find out whether a specific date was mentioned in any of our publications what you will find is wrong expectations due to eagerness just as it affected John the baptist and Jesus' faithful disciples! Act 1:6

So if your judgement is that Jehovah's Witnesses are false for having wrong expectations then stop believing the New Testament because it was written by people who also had wrong expectations of God's kingdom!

EnvyandHate:
MaxInDHouse
Did your family fight for the holy land against these Egyptian Muslims?
My family founded the Knights Templar and we fought to the last man standing. It was about 150 Knights Templar versus 7000 Saracens lead by Sultan Saladin. And when they captured the Knights Templar they wouldn't random them back like they did others because Saladin said that they were too dangerous. We are that bloodline of Jesus and you are the Africans that the white Europeans converted to Christianity in West Africa. I welcome you to the faith my brother but you are not a descendant of Knights i.e warrior monks. No, we wouldn't have allowed a mosque to be built in Jerusalem but we did allow the Muslims to come pray to God in their way. We are all Hebrews and the Arabs our cousins are Hebrews too. It's no different than Yorubas and Benin Kingdom being cousins and having similar gods. My point was to make clear the hypocrite Christians and Muslims not further divide Abraham's house.

The families of the New Covenant don't carry weapons against anyone {Isaiah 2:2-4} so if you have a history of killers for whatever reason they may give you as long as it's after the coming of Christ that means your family aren't following the Christ because the Christ will come with angels to fight his own war {Matthew 25:31} as for his earthly disciples they must pursue peace at all cost never should they lift up weapons against anyone! Matthew 26:52

Busybrain2233:
No doubts they were both descendants of King David.
But get this right, Jesus Biological father isn't a descendant of David's.
Hope you know what a biological father means

Jesus has no biological father that's why the angel said to Mary:

“Holy spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you. And for that reason the one who is born will be called holy, God’s Son" Luke 1:35

So nobody is telling you Jesus has a biological (human) father!

MindHacker9009:
True, faithlessness to the invented Jesus Christ leads to madness. Just take a look around to see those speaking in thongs and praying loud with in jesus name disturbing the people around them, is that not madness? But faithfulness to THE TRUE GOD ALMIGHTY OF THE OLD TESTAMENT LEADS TO WISDOM AND HONOR FROM GOD ALMIGHTY. With all your faith and "practicing what Jesus commanded his disciples" you keep running away from the question of telling us what charms you said you saw when you were in the army? You running away from this question means you are still using those charms just as the apostles did not wait for the fake holy spirit their fake resurrected Jesus Christ had promised them but turned to casting lots which involves pagan divination like ifa to select Matthias.

I have told you over a hundred times but since you're bent on what Judaists told you i'm less concerned about your problem.
Only Jehovah's Witnesses are practicing what Jesus taught!
If you want to find faults in Christianity that's not found in Judaism then look up to Jehovah's Witnesses not the churches of Christendom!

MightySparrow:
You are not sure your God will answer your prayers hére on earth, you are very sure of
His paradise.
The God that refused to listen to you here on earth will He admit you to His paradise?
Be deceiving yourself o.
Delusion Pro Max.

Foolish and faithless miscreant!
How exactly did your god answer you that you think my God hasn't answered me?

PoliteActivist:
Funny guy, JW that has been prophesying end of the world since 1878!

The same thing John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth prophesied almost 2,000 years ago!

Both of them said:

"Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand" Matthew 3:2; 4:17

Jehovah's Witnesses continue to proclaim the same message until God's kingdom will come! 1Corinthians 11:26

What you supposed to know is:

Why has John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth, first century Jewish Christians and Jehovah's Witnesses keep proclaiming the same message till today?

MightySparrow:
You are the wisest on this forum slap him back for slapping your God. Your hands are long to reach him across internet.
Old soldier.

No weapon formed against you will have any success, And you will condemn any tongue that rises up against you in the judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah, And their righteousness is from me,” declares Jehovah! Isaiah 54:17

The WEAPON Satan is shooting {Ephesians 6:16} are WORDS from unbelievers like the OP which are targeted at faithless miscreants like you that's why you started doubting Jesus' word regarding the judgment.
As a true believer i came to CONDEMN such a TONGUE with the SWORD of the SPIRIT which is God's written word! Ephesians 6:17
So if i am boasting about the righteousness of Jehovah's Witnesses as the one and only group practicing Christianity, our righteousness is from our God JEHOVAH!

Busybrain2233:
But Jesus isn't regarded to be from the lineage of David because his biological father isn't a descendant of David.

Matthew narrated the ancestral lineage of Mary {Matthew 1:1-16} but Luke narrated the ancestral lineage of Joseph! Luke 3:23-38
Both of them were descendants of King David!
Matthew 1:6; Luke 3:31
You're free to hold onto whatever rocks your boat but know that both Mary and Joseph are descendants of King David!

Christianity is the movement of all faithful people throughout the earth as they assemble themselves orderly following Christ.

So no matter the religion you're practicing in any part of this planet all you need to do is reason with the movement whether they worth it as the one and only true religion.

Throughout the earth there are many forms of worship and oracles but the one and only nation the true God revealed Himself to is Israel which means all others are unknowingly worshipping demons.

Aemmyjah:
You don't do the guy secret agent

His grievances is as a result of JWs competence to defend God's word yet saying he's not a worshiper of our God.
So he wish we continue defending Christ anytime critics rise up against God's son but we must do so not separating ourselves from his own people who are claiming they're also Christians!

MightySparrow:
I don't have anything to prove to him.

MightySparrow:
I don't have problem with him expressing his opinion. He is entirely responsible for all his comments. You can debate him.

You're the worstest fool on this forum!
Someone slapped your god right in the face but instead of you to stand up and speak you are calling upon Jehovah's Witnesses.
Guy you're just a fool @ over 60.

MightySparrow:
I don't have problem with him:
Ẹgan ko pẹ kí oyin o ma dun.
My problem is with unbelieving believers.

The highlighted shows faithlessness can lead to madness!

The true God has no business with politics today!
He has revealed what will happen globally to His people (Jehovah's Witnesses) so if anyone is prophesying regarding a particular area that has nothing to do with the true God because it has been sealed in the Bible book of Revelations:

Let the one who is unrighteous continue in unrighteousness, and let the filthy one continue in his filth; but let the righteous one continue in righteousness, and let the holy one continue in holiness. “‘Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to repay each one according to his work. Revelations 22:11-12

So whatever politicians are doing now is of no relevance to the true God who is coming to wipe them all out! Daniel 2:44

Aemmyjah:
ON the highlighted, I don't deny that Jesus has not been revealed to some persons while here in earth as to physical appearance, is it everyone that saw him? Simple question
Who is feeling pains? U de zuzu

Jesus has revealed himself to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES today that's why we can confidently say he is the archangel Michael but if anyone wants to prove they know Jesus better than Jehovah's Witnesses it simply means Jesus has revealed himself to them too so let them prove it not by words of mouth but by doing the WORK Jesus handed over to those he revealed himself to! James 2:18-26

Aemmyjah:
He has
In his own lab

He's really stupid but when he's backing up his stupidity with documents of atheists claiming scientists he feels elevated.
How can someone be so certain in fossils simply because someone told him there were creatures evolved from something else?
But the same idiot will stand asking how Moses parted the red sea!

Ọmọ if there's no creature evolving from another creature today that we can all see then he has no argument against Moses parting the red sea!

Aemmyjah:
Shame
We don't follow them
We address them as brothers
They don't insult or deride national leaders
They don't brag
We don't acknowledge them or mention them that often
Little is known about them and their background except their friends as they don't want their position to create too much attention
Majority of us don't even know their names
We don't hang their portraits around
We don't use their name in prayers... Unlike those who don't know God and invoking the god of my Papa
...

The truth is really disturbing him but when lies stands face to face with his so called faith he is silent!

MightySparrow:
My faith is intact: his unbelief or comment on what he doesn't understand cannot disrupt my faith. By faith I stand.

OK you stood but when asked to speak up in defense of your faith you are mute!

Aemmyjah:
I hear too
Maybe what OP says was a confirmation of what Papa said
Who knows

OP is outrightly condemning CHRISTIANITY as found in the Bible, MightySparrow has no problem with that but with Jehovah's Witnesses who are practicing what Jesus commanded his disciples MightySparrow has serious issues!

FRANCISTOWN:
You first said Joseph became a member of the household of David thru your atmospheric theory of "adoption by marriage".

Is Joseph the biological father of Jesus? NO!
But through the tradition of adoption in first century Jewish community he (Joseph) became the son of Mary's father.
That's what Matthew meant when he said:

Jacob became father to Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ...........But this is how the birth of Jesus Christ took place. During the time his mother Mary was promised in marriage to Joseph, she was found to be pregnant by holy spirit before they were united. Matthew 1:16 & 18

So it's simple if you're willing to reason!

FRANCISTOWN:
Calm down and read your comments. No, read it again. Does it make any sense?
I think it's high time I stopped quoting you on NL. You lack the ability to reason logically.
You just talk nonsense up and down

The highlighted is impossible because you can't wish the truth away no matter how furious you are it will continue to hunt you!

EnvyandHate:
God will cut the evil doers out of the bloodline. God brings an end to bloodlines by giving only daughters to a Man. This act by God has brought an end to many dynasties.

The promise God made to David is that the Messiah will come from his bloodline and God has warned the Israelites through Moses that the prophet who will come in the manner of Moses will speak to them but whosoever shall disbelieve this coming one will be cut off from among the living! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

The only prophet whom God made like a God in Israel is Moses {Exodus 7:1} later God promised that a child will be born among the Israelites by a virgin girl {Isaiah 7:14} and that this child will be like a God in their midst {Isaiah 9:6} this is the same prophet we're talking about today his name is Jesus of Nazareth {John 1:1} the Israelites proved to be unfaithful by rejecting him they're no longer God's people as a nation {Matthew 21:43} because they rejected the Messiah sent to help them that's why Jerusalemu their home was cursed {Matthew 23:37-38} in fact they told Pontius Pilate that the blood of this righteous prophet should come over them and their children {Matthew 27:25} that is why Israel as a nation is no longer God's people but whoever believes in Jesus of Nazareth no matter where he comes from to such one the right will be given to become a child of God {John 1:11-12} that's why the Jews lost their home land and heritage of being called God's people till today!

So anywhere they go to gather is no longer of relevance to the true God because believers in Christ Jesus has replaced them before God, let them continue deceiving themselves thinking they're still God's people but i'm telling you now that God's promise was about the bloodline that will produce the Messiah afterwards whoever fails to adhere to the words of the Messiah is of no importance to the true God this is the reason why Israelites can't be on the promised land anymore to keep the Torah as God's commandments rather a mosque has been built in the place where the temple was standing and what are they doing inside it? Well they're bowing towards the stone in Mecca something really detestable before the God of Abraham.

My friend, i'm sorry if this is hurting you in anyway but that's the truth!

Go and read Adoption in Judaism on Wikipedia!