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Cybertroll:
Again, this is my PERSONAL OPINION. If you don't like it, kindly Bleep off. I created a similar thread some weeks ago, maybe a month back...

With the highlighted the case is closed!

PoliteActivist:
When John and Christ were proclaiming the kingdom, the kingdom was indeed at hand, and was infact already there!

So are you saying it's pointless preaching about the kingdom today since it's been 2,000 years ago?

EnvyandHate:
The kingship of Judah belongs to my house and it will always belong to us so long as it's been written.

Then go to Judah and reclaim your kingship not when we are talking about Jesus of Nazareth whose existence started even before Abraham (great grandfather of Judah) was born!

Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, before Abraham came into existence, I have been.” John 8:57

Below was the reaction of your people when he told them that their faithless bloodline is of no relevance in the salvation of obedient mankind:

So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid and went out of the temple! John 8:58

You need the help of God's people if you want the Bible God to welcome you with open hands. It's a SPIRITUAL SICKNESS!
This is not the appropriate place to come rather go and meet the elders of your church and explain what happened to them.

Is there anyone sick among you? Let him call the elders of the congregation to him, and let them pray over him, applying oil to him in the name of Jehovah. And the prayer of faith will make the sick one well, and Jehovah will raise him up. Also, if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. James 5:14-15

These men aren't perfect but their gathering will call the attention of Jesus Christ {Matthew 18:20} and whatever they decide will be granted in heaven! Matthew 16:19

EnvyandHate:
What's your father's tribe?

What's Jesus' father's tribe?

Guy the Christ didn't come for the purpose of any bloodline otherwise he wouldn't say about his mother and brothers:

"While he was yet speaking to the crowds, his mother and brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to him. So someone said to him: “Look! Your mother and your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak to you.”  In reply he said to the one who spoke to him: “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And extending his hand toward his disciples, he said: “Look! My mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother.” Matthew 12:46-50

Jesus never talk about bloodline but willingness to obey his counsel that's what the first century Jewish missed out!

Aemmyjah:
That's why he's the Maynment

He has tried to use his chicken brain against me but after seeing the efficacy he ran and now he's arguing blindly.

If someone claims to be an atheist but believe in God he will quote books saying that's not what atheism means but now the book about Christ is accessible to everyone yet he won't use it rather it's what unbelievers are doing that he is using to condemn Christ!

EnvyandHate:
I gave you the cultural context and historical background to have a proper understanding of what went on during Jesus day. Hebrew Edomites were also mixed in with Judah and they are considered part of Jerusalem nation. This is why Matthew was speaking of them as a whole. Yet do not take it that all of Judah strayed as this wasn't the case nor was it the case for Abraham broke the generational curse. The heathen nations are not the issue it is the hypocrites which I shall address in my next post. I think we have worn out this discussion because you are thinking like a Bible student and not like a real world believer. There is no way you can ignore spiritual bloodline in any form because covenant is the spiritual pact between Israel and Yahwe. We have horned this spiritual bond for thousands of years and God protects our bloodline by cutting off those relatives who do not live up to the covenant. You must know that the bloodline is paternal and each time we seed a woman it brings a new bloodline into the family tree. This is why it is said that the bloodline of Jesus is also the bloodline of Satan. Some of those hostile bloodlines are incompatible and refuse to serve God so He eventually severs them to preserve the holiness of the bloodline. Genealogy is a science that you lack intelligent ideas to add with your adept biblical knowledge..

You're the one turning away from reality!

Jesus commanded his disciples to love their enemies {Matthew 5:43-48} love neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:31} and have love among themselves just as he love them! John 13:34-35

So there's no room for carrying weapons against anyone but you are hailing killers just because they're your bloodline which means you are part of those who disbelieved the Christ since you're against his commandments! John 15:14

Sorry my friend you and your people don't have anything to do with the Christ so forget about the worthless, hopeless, faithless and useless bloodline it's of no use today!

jaephoenix:
Coming from a biologist, I now understand why they lament the poor quality of our graduates.
What deformity can you see in a fossil?
Are you even aware bones of animals that died millions of years ago can be reconstructed using all sorts of tech, from AI, genetics etc?

So you can't prove your evolution theory with living creatures unless we have to read what others told you shey?
Continue deceiving yourself!

jaephoenix:
You mean the 'real christians' molesting kids? Nah. I'd pass

Of course that's what unbelievers like you will like to hear about faithful people {Matthew 5:11-12} so keep that in your brains while we are zealously preaching and industriously teaching in all our neighbourhood without hindrances from all enemies or truth like you!

EnvyandHate:
Freedom of Religion, many people does not mean all will accept Christ. You must understand spiritual progress that some people are not at the level to accept Monothiesm. My ancestors have been Monothiests for thousands of years. We can call upon God and He will answer us because our bloodline has a covenant with God. But for others whose blood is not pure because they have worshipped in paganism
and idolatry God doesn't answer them. God doesn't dwell among the heathens. It will take several generations of obedience for their blood to purify before God will answer them. This they must be willing to sacrifice to get back on the path. The Arab had not prayed to God for 2670 years and he prayed to 360 gods to serve his needs. So God wanted the Arab to pray 50 times a day to purify his blood. Yet prophet Muhammad knew that his people could never do this so he pleaded with God to reduce it to 5 times a day. How much more so would God ask of heathens who haven't prayed to God since the Flood? Once you understand spiritual bloodline then you would know why there is no compulsion in religion and why Jesus blood is holy blood.

So in a nutshell people from all the earth whether Edom or not will come out from among their unbelieving relatives and worship the true God just as Abraham did, shey?

Please forget about the Old Covenant it's gone and no longer useful:

“For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares Jehovah. “I will put my law within them, and in their heart I will write it. And I will become their God, and they will become my people.” Jeremiah 31:33

The New Covenant started with only the Jews who subjected themselves to the teachings of Christ and who ever joins them:

“This is what Jehovah of armies says, ‘In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: “We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people" Zechariah 8:23

This started in the first century with Jesus' apostles and all the people who joined them in pure worship as taught by Christ Jesus! Act 10:34-35

So it's no longer about bloodline that has been abused by the same Jews:

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you. Matthew 23:37-38

The true God is no longer interested in the case of bloodline because the Jews themselves conspired against Christ to have him killed so the privilege has been taken away from them:

"This is why I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits." Matthew 21:43

IamANigerianMan:
I said don't quote me, Bible says bring your tithe , you are telling me tithe is not for Christian, I am a Christian and must obey scripture, the same old testament that says Earth was created six days and God rested on the seven days and you believe , when it comes to money because of your greediness you are now turning scripture upside down..

So don't call anyone "pagan" for offering sacrifices because sacrifices are done in the Bible too!

IamANigerianMan:
Stop quote me with your nonsense doctrine and teaching ..

You're not a Christian, God word says:

Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. Proverbs 27:17

Goodbye if you're not ready to reason from the scriptures!

Cybertroll:
New International Version
Genesis 11:1-9
11 Now the whole world had one language and a common speech.
2 As people moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled there.
3 They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar.
4 Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”
5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building.
6 The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them.
7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”
8 So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city.
9 That is why it was called Babel—because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth.
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Yet God has no problem with aeroplanes, jets, rockets, satellites, the international space station, and so one. In other words, God is perfectly okay with space exploration. Yet God was 'intimidated' watching the people build the tower of Babel, a city which would reach heaven.
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I gotta ask, where exactly is God? Residing in the sky? In space? Beyond?
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I need answers.

You missed few things that you supposed to consider diligently:

The builders of the tower said:

And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. Genesis 11:4

So they want to stay in a geographical location on the surface of the earth whereas God said after creating humans:

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Genesis 1:28

God wants humans to fill the earth but they're scared of been wiped out again perhaps God decides to bring another deluge.
God has vowed never to do such again {Genesis 8:21} so it's faithlessness that prompted them to think of building the tower that's why God confused the language of those builders and from there they SCATTERED to all the earth just as God purposed in the beginning! Genesis 11:9

May you have PEACE!

Maynman:
Mr theist, it is you that should go rest, i was on my own when you brought your head for beating

Nobody claiming Christian can quote where Christ gave them the right to take lives of people so if they're following the book they carry up and down (Bible ) they will not be using weapons against their fellowman.
That's the truth whether you agree or not!

Maynman:
Christianity is one of the forms of theism.
Which scriptures do all theists follow?

It's OK go and rest Mr Atheist i'm a worshiper of Yahweh and nothing you say can change that since you're not interested in what the scriptures say!

IamANigerianMan:
Christianity is not a joke, the people call themselves Christians refuse to read christians guide and manual which is Bible.. I worship in a church before where the pastor was cursing people for not paying tithe, me I don't joke with my tithe because is biblical.. I left the church because he was cursing the people....

The highlighted is inaccurate knowledge!

There is no monetary tithing in Christianity it was instituted in the old covenant and it ended with the old covenant.
That's why you can't find anywhere in the new testament where Christians pay tithes.
But the pastor is right for causing those who aren't paying in his own religion since that's what his own religion teaches though it has nothing to do with Christianity.

Maynman:
The mattew book you are quoting was written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS.

With the above i'm OK so you're not following what the scriptures say about Christianity but what is prevalent around you as done by those CLAIMING Christians.
Case closed!

Maynman:
No religion has killed more people than Christianity, in their doctrine, death is the wages of sin.

Upon all the books you've read why is it this difficult for you to know that people killing people are not followers of Christ?

"Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:43-48

When someone claims he's an atheist comes out saying things that contradicts the ideologies of atheism you will quote what atheism means from books but when someone does what totally contradicts Jesus' ideology as written in the Bible you can't figure out that such ones aren't Christians.

Na wah for you o!

Danielomisco:
I'm telling you,there's a propaganda.Anything else aside us is demons.

Are you one of Jehovah's Witnesses or you've been reading/studying our books?
I asked this question because with the above post you've said the mind of all Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the earth!

EnvyandHate:
Edom is pride, the Edomites are a very proud bloodline of Hebrews who are very difficult to deal with.

Now read what Isaiah penned down again and answer the question that follows!

And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. Isaiah 2:2-4

Please tell me is there any tribe that will be left out completely in this prophecy?

Kseeker:
Let's check this

You're observing what pagans are doing instead of meditating on what Christ said about his REAL followers. Those people will all perish including all those concluding without making a thorough research to know the truth about CHRIST and CHRISTIANITY!
Satan is using different tactics to blur the sense of unbelievers so instead of concluding rashly why not ask:
Which group is practicing what Jesus taught?
The same applies to Islam because there are fractions in Islam too and they're not just doing things differently but fighting and killing one another all in the name of your Allah.
So think intelligently which is worse, those doing things differently but claiming they're for the same God or those picking up weapons to exterminate one another yet claiming they're worshipers of the same Allah?

You don't know REAL CHRISTIANITY but that's OK i can understand where you're coming from (Islam) that's how we were taught to use our sense of reasoning back then!

Aemmyjah:
Abi o
Bones that are subject to deformity and decay is what he's using as evidence

Let him present a living creature that will turn into another living creature before everyone then we will all agree with his evolution theory in the absence of that there is no difference between what the Bible say and what he is saying all is about BELIEVING what we never saw!

Aemmyjah:
Your head de touch
Go offline and sleep abeg
How many people in this forum has seen Jesus? De cap nonsense

His type are pagans who feels it's impossible to believe (trust) in what they can't see {John 20:29} so when you're faithful and discreet in what you do they wonder how possible since that's not their own way billions are going through that road {Matthew 7:13-14} their opinion is seeing God before obeying Him until they see something supernatural they feel it's stupid having the same line of thought with their fellow human because they're not honest so they feel everyone around them is not honest too but when they see a supernatural being then they'll be submissive!

EnvyandHate:
Yes Jesus was rejected but mainly by Edomites they made up the majority of the Pharisees and Sadducees and King Herod was an Edomite..You study the Bible but you lack the cultural context and the raw experience of being a Hebrew. Alot of Hebrews fell in love Egyptian religion and became very hypocritical. The hypocrites are worse than disbelievers they rot the faith from within.

From our discussion you should have noticed the efficacy in my Bible understanding but the one and only problem you're having now is pride and that's what affected the first century Jews who rejected Jesus. It's not about Edom but the teaching of Christ in itself is really hard to accept because you must disown yourself if you want to follow Christ {Mark 8:34} whatever you think about politics and racism before must be trashed otherwise it will be really really difficult for you to accept the Christ because he came to unite all faithful people throughout the earth of course that can't be possible if you're still thinking about race and politics! Mark 12:31

PoliteActivist:
Sometimes use your own common sense. Don't just unquestioningy imbibe whatever is put in you, like that JW guy. See below

As if you have COMMON SENSE!

You that can't distinguish between prophecies and echoing of prophetic utterances.

Ọmọ whatever makes JWs false for echoing what John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth said it simply means the source of the prophecy is false in the first place!

If you don't understand something just ask because 99% of Jews till today don't believe in Jesus simply because they feel it's a scam if he can't save them from Roman oppression!

MightySparrow:
Is it paining you ní?

If you have nothing tangible to say about faith stop quoting me it's irritating!

MightySparrow:
Community truth?

You're just useless after all you find nothing wrong with the OP!

PoliteActivist:
"the Kingdom of God is within you."

What's your understanding of the above quote?

Truthday:
You mean israel that proposing to ban Christianity. Or do you think Jews believe in Jesus as God??

Are you ready to reason or your Allah is still making you a deaf to reasonableness?

EnvyandHate:
You are not a Hebrew..We have always had warriors as an occupation. The Levites were priests and warriors. When we formed Knights Templar it wasn't the first time we combined the two occupations warriors and monks. Peter had a sword as did many of Jesus's disciplines. Jesus had a bull whip to beat the prostitutes out of temple exchanging money. Some of them were killed by the whip.

The true God is the Creator of all so don't think it's a matter of being Hebrew the truth is that God has set a time when the Messiah will walk the earth and through his wise counsel {Isaiah 9:6} all faithful people throughout the earth will unite as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Micah 4:1-3

So if you don't meet up with this requirement then your tribe or nationality is of no relevance that's why Jews lost Jerusalem to different religions because they failed to accept Jesus' counsel!