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Ordinarily gathering people from place to place and making them feel more important than their fellow humans yet worshiping the same God is jass on it's own!

MightySparrow:
Okay, since Ogun does not take nonsense, it is not a false religion. I have been hearing some people asking Nigerian politicians to swear by Ogun that they will never be corrupt again.
This evil enh?!

Jesus Christ didn't say that, false religions are exposed by their FRUITS not what the gods does. All gods have their versions of virtuous deeds but it's the activities of their adherents that will expose them as false.

Because these demons are perfect creatures and highly intelligent you can't beat them with reasoning but let their imperfect adherents of their standards go about what these gods laid down that's when you will know how unloving, foolish and unjust their standards are.

When Jesus said:

By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:16-18

Let all the Gods present the adherents of their standards {Micah 4:5} that's when you can figure out the stupidity in false Gods and their religions but if you're thinking about the way they present themselves in fact you won't know the difference between the true God and demons!

MightySparrow:
I see. Anyway, why religion?

Politicians have used different methods to brainwash their followers:

Money, Fame, Eloquence, Motivation Speeches, Beauty, Witchcraft but from the time Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon introduced False religions as another method of brainwashing his subjects most politicians now realized that none of the former methods is as powerful as false religions as a tool for brainwashing!

preciousee17:
Shall we open the Bible to see that we will all stand before the Throne of Judgement?

Do you know what the throne of judgment symbolises in that Bible book?

Before you open to the book of Revelations i will advise you to find the meaning of symbolic terms like:
© Locusts. 9:7
© Babylon. 17:5
© Wild Beast. 17:8
© The woman. 12:1
© Dragon. 12:3
© Dragon's seven heads and ten horns. 12:3

There are many more but let's figure out the meaning of these symbolic terms before going to "Judgment Throne"

preciousee17:
I think everyone will stand in that line and answer according to his/her lifestyle on Earth.

The Bible book of Revelations was written like illustrations not to be taken literally, nobody will stand literally before any judge rather resurrected unbelievers will have the opportunity to hear the Good News of God's kingdom for them to decide whether they will accept Jesus as king or not that's what it means!

MightySparrow:
political, but mostly fueled by religion.

This is where you got it allwrong!
It's the other way around:

Religious wars are fueled by politics so if you're looking at the fire (fighting and killings) it's religion you will blame but the underlying power behind the killings is POLITICS.

So it's politics that's fueling not religion!

lomprico:
Let your gods fight their fight

The gods are fighting but you won't know since you can't see them in the boxing or wrestling ring!

preciousee17:
You should remember that our God is a just Judge. You should also remember that the child will also stand before God on Judgement Day. So the child may be a sinner based on inherited sin, but never had the capability to repent based on the fact that he/she died in the womb. Again, I think there's something about not being guilty for something you aren't aware of. That's what makes Faith greater than the Law.

There are just two categories of people to be raised:
©RIGHTEOUS: All faithful servants of God who lived their lives in harmony with God's word so He (God) declared them "RIGHTEOUS" James 2:21

©UNRIGHTEOUS: These are people who lived their lives based on conscience, they don't have any idea about the true God but to the best of their ability they strive to be virtuous.
Since they don't know the true God they can't be declared righteous so they are noted for the way they strive to be virtuous! Rome 1:20

©WICKED: people who are deliberately cruel such ones will never be brought back for any reason! Psalms 9:17

Babies or fetus that hasn't developed any form of devotion aren't noted because they remain products of Adam the sinner that's why God's word commanded the Israelites to inculcate God's laws in the hearts of their children so that they will be devoted to God otherwise they're waste products never to be remembered! Deuteronomy 6:6-7

preciousee17:
On what grounds?

According to the scriptures the word "HELL" was translated from a Hebrew text "SHEOUL" it's Greek equivalent is "HADES" both means "GRAVE"

So since the baby has not developed any close relationship with God it's a sinner so at death it returns to dust just as all sinners must return to dust.

Resurrection is only for those that have had close relationship with God either through faith in Christ or conscientious lifestyle not for everyone!

preciousee17:
Erm.. Young man, you are quoting Paul, a Christian who believed in Christ and writes all these things to help others believe and follow Christ.

He's totally confused now!

I have been a thorn in his flesh ever since we had the first conversation on this matter that's why he is asking me how much i was paid to speak for Christianity but he doesn't want to know the truth.

Now he is quoting Paul (a Christian) to support Judaism against Christianity.

Hilarious indeed!

All you need is a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses that's all!

What Jesus was telling that Northern Israelite woman is that a time is coming when it will not be a compulsion to worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in Jerusalem temple but worshipers of the true God will represent the temple anywhere they're gathered.

For your information the word "CHURCH" doesn't mean a building but congregation of worshipers so one disciple of Christ is a Christian while 2 or 3 when gathered in the name of Jesus makes a church not the building in which they gathered but their assembly as a group.

When Jesus was sending letters to the churches in Asia he wasn't addressing the buildings but those congregating their!

https://www.nairaland.com/7767153/sweden-allows-burning-christian-bible

https://www.nairaland.com/7767152/israel-protests-sweden-allows-torah

Which one exactly are they protesting against, burning of Christian Bibles or Jewish Torah?

Please which Jewish prophet wrote the book you're now quoting?
Is Romans not written by Romans again?

You're not even ashame quoting the Romans now shey?
Sebi you said the New Testament was written by the Romans?
Why making reference to what Romans wrote to back Judaism nah?

MindHacker9009:
Romans 2:14
For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.

From the above those that will follow God already have the Laws of God in their hearts and do not need your invented messiah for them to fear God. The Jews fear God and will not go about deceiving people like you, your organisation and others going about pumping the gullible ones with the opium of the invented Jesus Christ and the FAKE mansions he has gone to prepare for the gullible followers of your invented Jesus Christ.

People have freely converted to Judaism/reform Judaism without being deceived with an invented messiah like you and your organisation are doing.
When the TRUE Jewish Messiah God Almighty has promised the Jews come then His duty is to make true worshippers from all over the world to worship God Almighty and not the fake followers of Jesus Christ that have a bat in their wardrobes in secret but in the open be shouting in Jesus Name or like general overseers preaching Jesus Christ but going to get power from marine spirits.

Here is a confession by a pastor called chidubem okwu who narrated his life story of how he was initiated into occultism by his General Overseer senior friend and mentor. He talked of how he went to the Bar Beach in Lagos one night and slept with a mermaid physically and thereafter the mermaid made the sign of the cross on her head touching her vagina.
And from then on he too began to operate in powerful “gifts” of “touch and fall”, “look and follow”etc. The only thing the mermaid told him was that he had to renew the power once a month by sleeping with a virgin and married women.
Sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlcJQtXxX1I

MindHacker9009:
Isaiah 49:6
I will make you a light to the Gentiles, and you will bring my salvation to the ends of the earth.”

Of course they will become a light if they follow the prophet that comes in the manner of Moses, the prophet who is a God at the same time performing great miraculous works in their midst.

That's what Jesus reminded his disciples:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain" Matthew 5:14

So instead of speaking for them let them come and preach to people if truly they have the backing of the spirit of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! Act 1:8

Christians aren't saying Jews are pagans but it's their own scriptures that's exposing their hypocrisy and IDOLATRY.

The true God promised to make them His people forever if they will adhere strictly to His plan:

Now if you will strictly obey my voice and keep my covenant, you will certainly become my special property out of all peoples, for the whole earth belongs to me. Exodus 19:5

The same God told them through the mouth of Moses:

"I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him. Indeed, I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name". Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Moses was a prophet and God at the same time {Exodus 7:1} the one and only promise of another God to be born among the Israelites is found {Isaiah 9:6} and Jesus of Nazareth fulfilled that role! John 1:1

So if they rejected Jesus of Nazareth who came to speak to them in the name of the same God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob {John 17:6, 26} they are CURSED for life that's the warning the God of Moses gave them:

"Indeed (surely), I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name". Deuteronomy 18:19

So go and tell them that according to the books in their own hands they've been CURSED for rejecting Jesus of Nazareth!

MindHacker9009:
@MaxInDHouse how much does your oganisation pay you to be on Nairaland day and night daily answering question on their behalf?

How much does Jews pay you to continue arguing on their behalf on Nairaland whereas there is nowhere in their scriptures that says you should be here arguing for them.


This is what i found in the books that speaks about Jesus of Nazareth:

“All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:18-20

Please whether true or lies just quote a single verse in the Jewish scriptures that concerns or commanded you to go speaking in behalf of their God!

tundein18:
To you

NO to millions of people who believe in him throughout the earth preaching zealously and industriously teaching about the Kingdom of God! Act 1:8

MindHacker9009:
Where are these people living now: Enoch, Elijah and Jesus Christ?

You said Jesus never existed after all he is not a scriptural character in the books you trusted (Genesis to Malachi) so don't add him to your list but as for Enoch and Elijah where did the Jewish God created for humans to live? Genesis 1:26-28 compare to Psalms 115:16

tundein18:
Idk. Go ask them

Thanks, the Christian God is the greatest!

MindHacker9009:
How did Enoch, Elijah and Jesus Christ leave this world?

Where did the Jewish God say He created for humans to live? Psalms 115:16 compare to Genesis 1:26-28
And what happens to them after death? Ecclesiastes 3:19-20; 9:5-10

tundein18:
5000 people fed yet no eyewitness account of the event 🤔

What makes the Jewish God special?

MindHacker9009:
I have already given you the answer to Proverbs 2:22?
"Cut off from the earth"

So if they're CUT-OFF from the earth please they will be BANISHED to where?

MindHacker9009:
Leviticus 24:10-23 - Punishment for Blasphemy
Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall stone him.
Punishment for Blasphemy is stoning and not crucification. It is the Romans that use crucifixion for anyone that is against their occupation of a nation.
"Cut off from the earth" you quoted means excommunication or banishment; if you violated the covenant laws, you were removed from the nation and made an outcast.
The New Testament you keep quoting from was invented by the Romans with the help of a Jewish priest called Josephus who switched sides to the Romans to save his own life and the Jews see him as a traitor.

What about God's word found at Proverbs 2:22?

Well let them come out of the CURSE Jesus of Nazareth laid on them first i will believe them!

Hell straight!

MindHacker9009:
Jesus was not cut off but was crucified so that verse you have quoted is not about your invented Jesus Christ. There is Jerusalem in Isreal today and there are plans going on to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem maybe if this Temple is the real second Temple that will house the Ark of the Covenant.

Guy, the word "CUT OFF" means "EXECUTED"


"As for the wicked, they will be CUT OFF from the earth, And the treacherous will be torn away from it" Proverbs 2:22

So go and tell your Judaists that the stone the builders rejected has become the chief Cornerstone. Jesus of Nazareth their faithless ancestors KILLED is the Messiah!

The day they conspired to have Jesus executed the Roman governor of Judea (Pontius Pilate) washed his hands telling them:

“I am innocent of the blood of this man. You yourselves must see to it.” Matthew 27:24


 At that all the Jews said in answer:

“Let his blood come upon us and upon our children.” Matthew 27:25

Let them know that the curse has been placed on the Jews and their land never will they again have God's approval so whoever among their descendants that wants to regain that blessings must become a member of Jehovah's Witnesses others all of them are doomed!

This is what their God said about Jesus of Nazareth that they executed:

"I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like (Moses), and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him. Indeed, I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name" Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Peter one of Jesus' apostles told them:

"let all the house of Israel know for a certainty that God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you executed on a stake.” Act 2:36

Jesus has cursed them but they're deceiving you telling you he was a Roman fabrication because after killing Jesus' disciples Romans adopted the name "CHRISTIANS" and they can't go persecuting Romans the same way they did to their Jewish disciples of Jesus.

Here is the CURSE laid on those first century faithless miscreants claiming Jews:

“Daughters of Jerusalem, stop weeping for me. Weep instead for yourselves and for your children" Luke 23:28


I know you hate the group name "CHRISTIAN" but there are lots and lots of secrets that i will tell you here but those faithless Jews can't even have any idea because the knowledge of God has been taken away from them and given to Jehovah's Witnesses:

"This is why I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits Matthew 21:43

Why are they claiming they know the God of Abraham but can't go out speaking about Him with people of the nations throughout the earth?

Well that's a sacred secret Jesus Christ gave to Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 28:18-20

MindHacker9009:
Jews are still waiting for their messiah that will only come once and fix this world.

Please ask them to explain what is written in the Bible book of Daniel 9:26

“And after the 62 weeks, Mes·siʹah will be cut off, with nothing for himself. “And the people of a leader who is coming will destroy the city and the holy place. And its end will be by the flood. And until the end there will be war; what is decided upon is desolations"

Who are the people of a leader coming to destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the holy place (Temple) when the Messiah Jews believe is here?

So ask them to tell you how their Messiah will come just once to fix the world yet another people of a leader will come to destroy Jerusalem and their temple.

Thank you!

MindHacker9009:
When the True Messiah comes He will build the second Temple to include the Ark of the Convenant, gather all the Jews back to Isreal and urcher in world wide peace.

OK after he has build the temple then those prophesied will come when he is cutoff and destroy the temple again and devastate Jerusalem and the holy place.

Please explain that verse:

And after the 62 weeks, Mes·siʹah will be cut off, with nothing for himself. And the people of a leader who is coming will destroy the city and the holy place. And its end will be by the flood. And until the end there will be war; what is decided upon is desolations. Daniel 9:26

Who are the people of a leader coming to destroy the city and the holy place when the Messiah is CUTOFF?