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Offpoint1:
I asked you the time, year and date on those predictions... Do you know accuracy mean?

Can you prove it happens? You can't, you only BELIEVE it happens...

Promise:
God promised to unite all His worshipers under one umbrella! Isaiah 2:2-4
Fulfilment:
In the year 1931 people from different countries throughout the world met in Ohio and began bearing the Name "Jehovah's Witnesses" Isaiah 65:15
Promise:
Worshipers of the Bible God will be visiting their neighbours at home for heart to heart discussion! Malachi 3:16
Fulfilment:
Starting from 1919 till today Jehovah's Witnesses are still visiting their neighbours from house to house just as Jesus commissioned it! Matthew 10:11-13

I can go on and on if time permits!

Maynmann:
Wrong!
Look up mark 15:34.

And at the ninth hour, Jesus called out with a loud voice: “Eʹli, Eʹli, laʹma sa·bach·thaʹni?” which means, when translated: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”

Ọmọ "Eli" is a short form of "ELOHIM"

Just as Yah is a short form of Yahweh!

Caveatemptor:
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You're now short of words shey?

Well Jehovah is a transliteration of the four consonants "YHWH" just as the name "Jesus" is also a transliteration of the word "Yehoshua"

So the point here is that the God of Abraham has a specific name not Elohim!

Maynmann:
Jesus spoke Aramaic, so what is “god” in Aramaic in his own language

Elohim!

Offpoint1:
But with God all things are possible
Bro!

Not when it's against God's will!

It's not God's will to make us robots without freewill that's why humans were created in His image meaning to have choices unlike animals that live on instinct.

So it's against God's will to turn humans into creatures living on instinct that's why only those who willingly embraced pure worship can be united as one family!

Offpoint1:
from the above you quoted, tell me which of it has come to pass and what date, year and time was it supposed to happen? Since you claim accuracy

God promised to send the Prince of peace {Isaiah 9:6} who will be born by a virgin among the Jews {Isaiah 7:14} this happened in the first century!

He promised to dispense His active force so that what He planned could begin to take effect gradually. After Jesus of Nazareth left the earth his disciples who were all Jews spoke different languages miraculously to foreshadow what will later happen when pure worship circulates the earth.

And as promised God said false religionists will mix up with His servants but He will allow them to play their part until His anointed King is installed in heaven. This happened in the year 1914 and ever since then the separation of adherents of pure worship began.

Today the whole world could see that global family of peace loving worshipers:

Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 5:14-16

Offpoint1:
What do you understand by "he will unite his Worshipper"? Does that line sound God-like to you?

Do you know what godlike sounds like? The sunshine's on EVERYTHING, the rain falls on EVERYTHING, if nature roars he consumes EVERYTHING... No preferential treatment.

Look at for clue of who God is... It's all around you.

Ọmọ humans are free agents so it's impossible to make all those having freewill to embrace peace but as for those embracing pure worship it will work like electricity.

He promised to destroy evildoers who will not embrace the peace call! Psalms 37:9-11

Offpoint1:
I'm jus here laughing...
I didn't intend to still be dragging this... All I needed you do for me to prove to me the Bible is the word of God. You were talking about events the Bible predicted and they've come to pass 😂 🤣 You and me can easily do that. God word would have been more specific with date, year and time. Is like me saying time will come when an Igbo man will be the president, and that time technology will be at its best..... (No read this prediction intelligently and tell me the possibility ratio).... I could claim these words came to me from God.

NO!

The Bible God didn't just predicted what is usual He promised to unite all His worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} because He is the same Person who confused mankind's language {Genesis 11:7} and he didn't stop at that but said individuals from all over the earth will come and become friends of PEACE under His only begotten son who is the prince of peace {Isaiah 9:6-7} while all other people will be killing themselves because of politics and racism! Revelation 6:3-4

Prove to me that any human can accurately predict all of that!

Offpoint1:
The Bible stands for unity? 😂 Joke of the century, it's obvious you've not been reading the Bible.

Do you know that the Author promised to unite all His worshipers?

"In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore". Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

He promised to use His active force (Holy Spirit)

He then said to me: “This is the word of Jehovah to Ze·rubʹba·bel: ‘“Not by a military force, nor by power, but by my spirit,” says Jehovah of armies. Zechariah 4:6

So that all His worshipers can speak in harmony:

For then I will change the language of the peoples to a pure language, So that all of them may call on the name of Jehovah, To serve him shoulder to shoulder. Zephaniah 3:9

That's why He group changed the name of His worshipers:

"You will leave behind a name that my chosen ones will use as a curse, And the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will put each of you to death, But his own servants he will call by another name" Isaiah 65:15

Today we are called"JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"

Now prove me wrong if everything the Author of the Bible promised has not come through!

Maynmann:
No he couldn’t, he spoke aramaic.
When did jesus speak English?

Ọmọ Jesus never spoke English just as Ṣàngó never spoke Hausa but if an Hausa man chose to worship Ṣàngó he will speak his own language to the God (Elohim) of his choice!

Caveatemptor:
Elohim means gods or pantheon of gods or children of El-the most high God.
You are wrongly translating these words,the same way jehovahs witness wrongly translated the name Jehovah.

OK you're ready to talk shey?

Well you're welcome!

Elohim means "my God" and since each person isn't talking about the same God it means those called elohim are many:

For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 1Corinthians 8:5

I know you're trying to change the subject by mentioning Jehovah's Witnesses so everyone may pick one thing or another against JWs but please stay on course!

Maynmann:
Semitic is gotten from Shem, so semilunar is perfect

Elohim and allah means same thing, “my god”, and everyone can say "my God" in their native language shey?

When that jewish boy called iesus was alive inside the New Testament, he couldn’t speak English, how then did he call “God”

He used the same word "ELOHIM" which his listeners knew as the God of their ancestors!

Here is Jesus talking about the God of his own forefathers:

‘I am the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob’ Matthew 22:32

So each nation back then has their God even though the Gods don't have the same name but each will say "my God" (elohim) in his own native language!

Offpoint1:
God is the creator, no doubt about that...
The Bible ain't his words, those are men literature... Not ordinary men. God has already introduced himself in nature, look within and around you.

You're now dodging intelligent questions shey?

Ọmọ looking around us has led to confusion and chaos as people from different geographical locations on this planet see God from different angle so the Creator must present an informative material that will unite all people globally.
Ọmọ that is what the Bible stands for!

Offpoint1:
Lol at the "ONLY BOOK"...
Bro stop saying "it's the only book", just say "it's the only book I HAVE READ"
How old is the Bible?

I have discussed this with many atheists on this forum but it's obvious you're just going into this with me for the first time.

Dates could be fabricated to promote a book by its writer so there are thought provoking questions you need to ask in order to unravel the lies. The Bible is the oldest book but many people often add dates that they can't defend.
For example who wrote those books that are older than the Bible? Moses was the man who penned down the first five books of the Bible.

Offpoint1:
There were religious books written years before the Bible, in fact there many chapters in the Bible that were taken from those books.

Ọmọ this is a lie but since you choose to believe it the only way to help you out is asking thought provoking questions.
What prompted the writing of such verses?

Offpoint1:
See! Let me let you be... You can't handle some certain things. Just believe what you believe.

You also believe what you believe i suppose!

Maynmann:
you don’t understand the language you are using.
Elohim and Allah means same they come from the same semitic language LITERALLY.
Allah also means “my god”.
An african saying “my god” is also same thing that the jew or arab is saying in meaning not in word.

Again, allah and elohim means same thing and they are plural

So whether SEMITIC or SEMILUNAR the word "ELOHIM" means "my God" and everyone can say "my God" in their native language shey?

Ọmọ case closed!

Maynmann:
Elohim is not an African language, the African should first look up what “elohim” means.
Elohim and allah means same thing, so if the African is not an illiterate he can say “ To a Jew Allah (God) Its the spirit that appeared to Moses, to a Roman Allah (God) is Jupiter, to Greek Allah is Zeus, to a Yoruba man Allah is Obaluaye.

You don't understand me!

"Elohim" means "my God" so an African will not use the word "ELOHIM" but when he say "my God" he is saying the same thing that the Jew or Arab is saying in meaning not in word!

Dantedasz:
The questions you should be asking yourself is DID YAHWEH steal the characteristics of EL and from a pantheon of smaller gods become the main GOD?

The Bible confirmed that there are many Gods {1Corinthians 8:5} in the name of his own God (Elohim) each person will walk but we will walk in the name of JEHOVAH! Micah 4:5

So don't let this confuse you the word ELOHIM is not used for a specific God but each person used it for their own God!

Maynmann:
Elohim means Allah, from same Semitic language

So if an African say Elohim and an Israelite say the same they don't have the same deity in mind each is talking about the God of his own ancestors.
To a Jew Elohim (God) Its the spirit that appeared to Moses, to a Roman Elohim (God) is Jupiter, to Greek Elohim is Zeus, to a Yoruba man Elohim is Obaluaye.

That's why it's important to know the name of your own Elohim that is if you believe in any!

vdestro:
I did not say, it did not say so.

The covenant differ!

Case closed!

Caveatemptor:
Watch how they will continue to dodge this critical question.

"Elohim" means "my God"
So names like Samuel, Daniel, Ezekiel and so on has to do with Elohim.

Richwallet:
There is no black Jesus

Is there a white Nelson Mandela?

Please what has skin colour got to do with the virtuous attribute we need to learn in people?

OtvnaijaNews:
This is a clip from citizens of light church, Apostle Muyiwa Areo talking about when a Believer Starts Lying
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7PknbtAMpc

The guy himself is a LIAR!
There are only twelve chosen apostles of Christ and they're to coordinate the Israelites in doing God's will {Luke 22:30} the last apostle was chosen to connect people of the nations to Christ Jesus {Act 9:15; Galatians 2:7} there is no other apostle after Paul so the guy in the video is a LIAR!

vdestro:
You misunderstand the word "new covenant" for clearly Jery explains that it is a merely a different means/mode of covenant but it is still the same covenant exactly as Moses" staff used for everything and yet God Said "Speak to the rock", but Moses feared and used the staff.

God did not change neither did The Law change, the only change was the mode of operation of same Law, whkch is The Law of the Covenant, hence my response.

And without a doubt ,The Lord, is still Lord, even now, therefore, there is no change.

Ọmọ you like blind arguments and when you're corrected you resort to insuts and abusive speeches but that won't stop me from correcting you!

The scriptures say the covenant differ:
“Look! The days are coming,” declares Jehovah, “when I will make with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant. It will not be like the covenant that I made with their forefathers on the day I took hold of their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, ‘my covenant that they broke, although I was their true master,’ declares Jehovah
Jeremiah 31:31-32

What you supposed to ask is the difference between the first and the last covenant!

The first covenant came with circumcision and written laws binding on all circumcised individuals wherever they go but the second covenant is not of written laws neither does it have anything to do with circumcision rather individuals involved only need to live their lives in accordance with that of a role model: Christ Jesus!

So the covenant totally differs Sir!

Aemmyjah:
Ok

Which One Is More Serious 'a Sin' Or 'a Crime'

He has found out that believers have proved to be smarter in choosing Sin so to save his face from the embarrassment he caused all his cohorts in atheism he decided to insult any believer to scare them away.

It has been established that:

MaxInDHouse:
The acknowledgement of law is for intelligent creatures to curb the menace within their society!

The acknowledgement of sin is for wise people to live longer!

It's no crime for (unmarried) teenagers or adults who aren't married to have extramarital affairs (sex) when they're consenting this has led to untimely death of millions as STDs, abortions, breakups, depression, frustration and many more are claiming lives and human laws created to prevent Crime becomes useless in this case but sin is very very effective in the midst of believers!

I believe everyone should just present their opinion without attacking others that's how real liberal people does things!

Steep:
Meanwhile your questions are pending.
atleast present one, just one is enough. So far you have not being able to prove anything, I have clearly presented scriptures to you, showing you that Jesus is truly God and truly man.8 I showed you Daniel 7 vv 14 where Jesus recieve service that is meant only for the true God. Shown you that Jesus has absolute power, I have also shown why Jesus called a servant which is because he took that form willingly. I have also showed you where Jesus is prayed to by Stephen, Paul and entire Christian church. This is enough evidence for now.

Go and worship your trinity we are OK with one JEHOVAH and we know Jesus is not the God to be worshiped in our gathering!

Busybrain2233:
Are Atheists/Agnostics not having these privileges and line of thoughts you mentioned amongst them selves?

NO!

Can you travel to any country in the world and expect to be welcome home in the house of strangers who don't know you other than the same line of thought you share with them?

Busybrain2233:
The last question sir:

What is the earthly benefits of being a Xtian or a member of any other religion?

I can only speak for Christianity!

Opportunity to make families throughout the earth when you don't even know them before, faith in Christ Jesus gives you the benefit of having families in all the countries of the world {Mark 10:29-30} and with true Christians you'll share the same line of thought! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

Aemmyjah:
Man, go and give your life a purpose

He wants me to quote him when all he does is insults!

Offpoint1:
Lol, I asked you to prove to me that the Bible is the word of God, you went ahead to quote the Bible as the prove that the Bible is the word of God.

Just take a deep breath and I ask yourself if you're making any sense.

I'm not asking you to prove to me that God is the creator, that's not my argument. Don't miss or mixed the point.

I want you to prove to me that the Bible is God's word.

Do you agree that God is the Creator?

If so then how do you expect the Creator to introduce Himself?

That's why i started quoting the Bible as proof that the Author is God the Creator!

Offpoint1:
Prove to me the Bible was inspired by God or God's word, then we can start from there.

If there are many people laying claim on one house and it's difficult to ascertain who truly is the owner do you just conclude that none of them is the owner?

The God of the Bible gave indisputable proof that He is the Creator of all things we can see!

First He introduced Himself and how the work began {Genesis 1:1} the good prospect He has for the inhabitants of this planet {Genesis 1:26-28} how the first human couple rebelled against Him leading their descendants to a state of uncertainty {Genesis 2:17; 3: 4-5, 19} how some of His spirit sons also became rebels {Genesis 6:1-6} how He stopped then from continuing to mate with real humans by keeping them in a state where they can't get humans pregnant again {2Peter 2:4} He called the architect He employed during creation as His witness {Proverbs 8:22-31; Revelations 3:14} He explained how the earth became a hell for it's dwellers {Ecclesiastes 8:9] and His plans to restore sanity on this planet! Psalms 37:9-11

YES He is the true God who created everything!

After all this He revealed His WORKS to us how it's progressing bit by bit and what we should expect in each generation of mankind until the final extermination of those ruining our planet! Revelations 11:18

Today what He promised some thousands of years ago through the mouth of two prophets has been fulfilled today, the Bible God foretold a time when individuals from different nations will seek His approval of as they gather together to study His word {Isaiah 2:2; Micah 4:1} they will pay attention to the Bible and used what they found in this book to settle all disparities peacefully among themselves, divert all their resources into the production of food and information materials, erase the making, buying, selling and usage of destructive devices, and vow never to raise weapons against their fellow man again! Isaiah 2:3-4; Micah 4:2-3

Please which book written by anyone in the history of mankind has been so articulate in predicting what will happen about it's students like that?

Ọmọ give it to the Bible God He has proved to be the Creator with undeniable evidence!

Aemmyjah:
Like a goat that leaves his territory to go and find food to steal. Same with atheists, no joy in the conversation among themselves or hope
They know the forum to come and show frustration

One told there's nowhere they can go to talk with people so we should welcome them but the next minute he was calling me names for discussing with another person.

So it's true they're really frustrated!