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Childfree:
What do you mean by "worship under him"
Worship what? Oh I got it. You are one of those people who believe that there is a man in the sky, he has a book and that he needs worship and money abi?

I've noticed your sudden silence after reading my comments, now you know that apart from demanding to see God there is sound reasoning in true Christianity so even though false religions claiming Christians are getting it all wrong it doesn't mean there is no God or true religion.
You may have had bitter times dealing with counterfeit money but that doesn't mean you can't find the legal tender!

No sane human can raise any objections if Christianity is presented the way Christ Jesus commissioned it but after his ascension and the death of his first century Jewish disciples Satan's agents began their man-made doctrines {Matthew 13:25} that's what most of us knew before Jehovah's Witnesses came to our homes with the truth!

paxonel:
so, why are they now transferring the Malachi curse from old testament to the new covenant in Christ, i don't get it?

They are robbers!
Immediately Christ Jesus began his ministry he condemned tithe collectors! Matthew 23:23
WHY?
Because those priests are supposed to help the payers know that the Christ is around who will render judgment to save the needy {Matthew 5:1-12} and what's more? God's law forbids three categories of people from paying tithes in Israel:
WIDOWS! Because they have no husbands to care for them and their babies.
ORPHANS! Because they're living from hand to mouth as they must slave to feed themselves unlike children having fathers to care for them.
TRAVELERS! Because they're no part of Israel so they shouldn't pay tithes rather it's the other twelve tribes given inheritance that must pay.
So these three categories RECEIVE TITHES from what the Levites pay as tithes instead of paying {Deuteronomy 14:28-29} that's the arrangement made by God so that nobody lacks food within Israel even if you're just a foreign resident in their society.
But by the time Jesus walked the earth those collecting tithes from the people has ignored the orphans, widows and foreign residents that's why God laid a CURSE on anyone who is not paying in Israel! Malachi 3:6-12

paxonel:
Does the curse really work?
Because i can count so many successful Christians who are not regular churchgoers, talkless of them paying tithe

The CURSE only affects Israelites the nation with which God made that covenant note that foreign residents are not supposed to pay but receive tithes so if you're living in Israel today you're supposed to BE PAID from the contributions (tithes) made by Levites and not the other way around!

paxonel:
very true!
I wish the tithe collection should just be free-will giving like offering, not that one pastor will cajole church members that it must be some sort of regular 10% of one's income and that if the church member don't pay the regular 10% things will tight for him or her.
You know, that's amount to threat

It's a big fat lie!
The name TITHES connotes 10% so it's never a thing of option according to the law that's why the God of Israel laid a heavy curse on whoever fails to pay! Malachi 3:6-10

But when Jesus commissioned Christianity the tithe was excluded because there are no group that must not work unlike the old covenant where Levites must remain in the temple. So the monetary tithing today is a scam if you must know!

Childfree:
So why does the deity need the payment of tithe? Is it tax, levy, dues, payment for what exactly?

It's a payment for the services rendered by the Levites in Israel!

Majeste:
The message is stop the thievery of another's heritage. Do you know what Hebrew means? It means cross over. Now some scholars believe that means that Hebrews crossed over a land mass and that's the meaning they give it. But it means cross breed. That's the meaning I assign to our heritage. We are a cross breed of Semitic people and Hamites that's why we have wooly hair like Africans. When Semitic men took Hamite wives or rather when brown skin men took black skin wives. We took so many that it took us away from our God sometimes like in Solomon's case. Laws were created to put a stop to the cross breeding that Hebrews took with other nations. We are brown skin like the Arab, Palestinians, Indians, Latinos and Hispanic. We are not Black. Jesus was brown skin as was Prophet Muhammad. There are no black prophets. There is no black Jesus. All the prophets and the Messiah were Hebrews because Hebrews are brown. Hebrews were refugees in Africa only visitors. The land belongs to black people thus the name Kemet means black people's land. Yet the Bible is our heritage as Hebrews a people who wandered from place to place and cross breed with other nations. We are all human beings so that makes us the same species. Yet it makes a Hebrew a cross breed. Even Arabs are Hebrews too because Abraham's wife Hagar is an Black skin Kemetic woman the mother of all Arabs. Yet they did not cross breed any more generations after Hagar so Arabs maintained more degree of a Semitic look. Israelites and Edomites however continued to cross breed so much it began to affect their identity and heritage.

Just tell me what people globally can benefit from all these things you're typing because i've told you how faithful people throughout the world are benefitting from the teachings of Christ Jesus that Jehovah's Witnesses are preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all our neighbourhood.

Failure to present something worthwhile then you're not different from this person below:

MightySparrow:
I do as I am convinced, I stay!

If that's what the God you worship demands it is your duty to pay!

Workch:
According to the scriptures, it is not necessary to pay your "tithe" to a church. Scripturally, you decide how to pay your tithe, you also decide if you don't want to pay it. It all depends on whether you have faith in it or not.

According to the Bible TITHE is compulsory if i'm an adherent of the old covenant:

“At the end of every three years, you should bring out the entire tenth part of your produce for that year and deposit it inside your cities. Then the Levite, who has not been given a share or an inheritance with you, the foreign resident, the fatherless child, and the widow who are in your cities will come and eat their fill, so that Jehovah your God may bless you in all that you do" Deuteronomy 14:28-29


So it's not optional but mandatory for all those practicing what the law says to pay their tithes otherwise a curse will follow them for defaulting:

“Will a mere human rob God? But you are robbing me.” And you say: “How have we robbed you?” “In the TITHES and in the contributions". Malachi 3:8

But the misconception today is that most people don't know that this covenant has been CONDEMNED and replace with another when the Christ breathe his last on the torture stake from that very moment whoever wants to worship the God of Abraham has no business paying tithes monetarily because the old temple in which it was mandatory has been demolished and a new temple has replaced it! John 2:19
So whoever wants to pay his or her tithes today must do so directly to Christ by spending his/her time in preaching and teaching about God's kingdom! Hebrews 7:11-12

May you have PEACE!

Politics is the problem not religion!
China and India have the religion of their choice and unlike Africans that have allowed politicians used us they fought great wars that claimed millions of lives in order to maintain soundness of mind in their society.

My brother here will easily loose focus when a politician uses tools like money, fame, religion and racism to blindfold him, that is what the Indian and Chinese won't allow anyone do to them they will tell you what they want as a united people but my people here will forget what they want once money, fame, racism and religion is used to divide them!

Childfree:
Do you pay tithe is the question oga

Obviously you don't know what you're asking simply because Satan's agents claiming they're Christians have confused many with man-made doctrines.
I pay my tithes monthly directly to my Lord Jesus and if you know what that means it's not monetary but time spent in preaching zealously and industriously teaching in my neighborhood.
The old covenant demands 10% of the gain that adherents of Mosaic laws make but in the new covenant Jesus didn't ask for money rather it's the time we SPENT in doing the work he assigned to us.
That's why you will always find my brothers and sisters in the field paying their tithes with service to Lord Jesus.
We are Jehovah's Witnesses!

Childfree:
Okay.
What is tithe for?
As a levy, tax, dues, lobbying to get prayers answered...? What

If that's what is obtainable in your place of worship it's either you quit going there or do as they say!

Jeffy1206:
I'm not bother to read all the rubbish you just said when you say... So community laws should take priority over the ground norm? Every law that's inconsistent with the Constitution is null and void. No law can be superior to it so get that!

You must become a Roman to live in Rome so if this sound like rubbish to you go and stop the community that has been blindfolded with the traditions of their ancestors.
It's either you wipe out their entire race from the surface of the earth or avoid their trouble until their own children break the yoke but thinking you can stop them while the majority among them are upholding their tradition that is IMPOSSIBLE!

oteneaaron:
Spoken like a true religious FANATIC.

Sorry my guy you can't understand this because the wisdom has been taken from you and given to those making good use of it! Matthew 25:28

You're not interested in the understanding of what happens rather you're just here to malign true believers.

What i'm saying is that to be on the safer side we must all be prepared to become Romans if we must live in Rome:

"For though I am free from all people, I have made myself the slave to all, so that I may gain as many people as possible. To the Jews I became as a Jew in order to gain Jews; to those under law I became as under law, though I myself am not under law, in order to gain those under law. To those without law I became as without law, although I am not without law toward God but under law toward Christ, in order to gain those without law. To the weak I became weak, in order to gain the weak. I have become all things to people of all sorts, so that I might by all possible means save some. But I do all things for the sake of the good news, in order to share it with others" 1Corinthians 9:19-23

So humble yourself and learn from Christians or go to the community where they uphold the traditions then raise your tongue against the tradition of their fathers and pay the price!

Myer:
Kindly share the difference between loving your neighbour and loving your brother. Thx

According to Jesus of Nazareth LOVE is the identifying mark among true believers {John 13:34-35} nothing separates them no matter what happens even blood relations, race, skin colour, class or language can't be used to influence them against themselves, politicians can't use anything to make them fight one another because the love of Christ surpasses anything else among them. That's what Jesus meant by BROTHERS! Matthew 12:46-50

But neighbours are people we see all around us so Jesus Christ we as Christians must love all other people we see and wish them well just as we wish for ourselves {Mark 12:31 compare to Matthew 7:12} but since they're not related to us in the faith we can't love them the same way we love our brothers in Christ! Galatians 6:10

So according to the law of Christ we must love equally all the people we see around us but as for fellow believers we must be prepared to die for one another if necessary just as Christ did for his disciples! John 15:12-13

That's the difference!

Myer:
With understanding we will learn to love one another.

YES!
As NEIGHBOURS just as Jesus taught! Mark 12:31

Myer:
We are all brothers through Father Adam and Abraham. Do you still not get this?

Then you supposed not to say:

Myer:
Muslims and Christians should be brothers. The Quran actually teaches Muslims to learn Godliness from true Christians.

Rather this is how you should put it:

"All humans are brothers no matter the religion because we are all from Adam"

Myer:
The only thing that should differentiate a follower of Christ or "Christian" from others is the way of life, living in love- bearing the fruit and gifts of the Spirit and passion for God's Kingdom.

That's exactly why we aren't BROTHERS with any other religionists but NEIGHBOURS!

You don't know the real Christians!

We don't judge anyone {Matthew 7:1-4} we love everyone around us even if you don't share our beliefs {Matthew 22:39} we must not raise weapons against anyone no matter what such a person think about us {Matthew 5:43-48} we don't discriminate as long as you're ready to live by the same standard with us you automatically become one of us {John 17:20-23} we don't engage in worldly politics {John 17:14} because it's the only reason why people do kill people without remorse {Revelations 6:3-4} we seek peace with all our neighbours {Romans 12:18} that's why we pay uninvited visit to our neighbour's homes {Matthew 10:11-12} to find friends of peace in our community! Matthew 10:13

So if truly you know what Christianity is all about you will love the concept because it's pro-humanity!

Myer:
How did Jesus Christ ask us to Love our neighbours?

Luke.10.29-37 But he, wanting to justify himself, said to Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"
Then Jesus answered and said: "A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
Now by chance a certain priest came down that road. And when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
Likewise a Levite, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and passed by on the other side.

But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had compassion.
So he went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, "Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I come again, I will repay you.'

So which of these three do you think was neighbor to him who fell among the thieves?"
And he said, "He who showed mercy on him." Then Jesus said to him, "Go and do likewise."

Exactly!

Your neighbour is anyone you see no matter where he or she comes from so as human we must love people anywhere we see them and think of their good but brother is the person with whom we share the same line of thought! John 17:22

So a Muslim who doesn't believe that Jesus is Christ son of the living God can't be a brother to a Christian, they're both neighbours that means the Christian must love the Muslim just as he wish to be loved as taught by Christ Jesus! Matthew 7:12

Myer:
Muslims and Christians should be brothers.
The Quran actually teaches Muslims to learn Godliness from true Christians.

When your beliefs contradicts that of the other person next to you both of you aren't brothers but neighbours even if such a person is your blood relation as long as your beliefs contradicts each other you're not brothers but neighbours! ~ Jesus of Nazareth {Matthew 12:46-50}

Where most people got it wrong is the love we must have towards our neighbours {Matthew 22-39} which is different from the love we must have towards our brothers in faith! John 13:34-35

According to Jesus of Nazareth the rules of our religion may differ from that of another faith so we must consider such a person as well meaning neighbour who is ignorant of the rules of our own faith and love him the same way we would want to be loved but when it comes to the person having the same religious beliefs as we do our love for such a person person must be exactly the same way Jesus loves us (ready to surrender his life for us) when it's necessary! John 15:12-13

So Christians and Muslims can't be brothers in faith they can only be neighbours loving each other as themselves! Mark 12:31

Jeffy1206:
but does it justify killing people in the spot without prior investigation? 🤔

Investigations come when laws (constitution) of the community is disregarded and It's the culture and traditions that gives birth to the constitution of any community so when blasphemy occur the blasphemer may not be opportuned to defend his case before the law court most especially in a community where there is high regard for the culture and traditions.
For instance in some countries it's a crime to be found chewing something during fasting period so if a defaulter is beheaded the killer will be hailed and rewarded for upholding the constitution without even waiting for investigations!

Please Read Numbers 25:1-11

The law was broken and a plague began that's killing people in thousands only for Phinehas to raise a spear and pin two consenting adults having sex. Well their prophet said God has spoken and hailed Phinehas for a job well done!

So we need to be conscious of the traditions and culture in any community we live {Matthew 5:17} it's the western world that's making rules to control all of these that's why some communities are against Western education:

Boko Haram simply means Western education is against God's will!

You're right!

Aemmyjah:
I can't even recommend a psychiatrist for him
They should lock him up in a goat herd

She is depressed and it's gradually affecting her brain!

MessiahOfAfrica:
This is a story to really reminisce on.
I'll follow up with the bible verses to read up deeply. Ill ask my questions if I have any.

You're welcome anytime any day!

Lamech is the first polygamist on this planet {Genesis 4:19} he did so against God's will of one Adam one Eve {Genesis 2:21-25} Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are the patriarchs none of them took a second wife with joy they were compelled to do so under conditions and both Abraham and Jacob had lots of troubles in polygamy.

But that's not why Christians mustn't marry more than one wife or husband, we are going to Paradise where there won't be sorrow, pain, envy or hatred which are inevitable where two women are sharing one man, in fact when we get to Paradise couples will live like Adam and Eve forever that's God's will in the beginning {Matthew 19:4} whoever wants to live in Paradise must be transformed now and welcome that new personality that was created in God's will in true RIGHTEOUSNESS and LOYALTY {Ephesians 4:23} not the old personality adopted when we inherited sin! Colossians 3:9; Ephesians 4:22

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

VenumX:
Of course you are and everyone sees you as such. No evidence needs to be further presented on your sick sexual atrocities. You have provided enough.

Stay away from hard substance!

VenumX:
If only those who waste time arguing with you know you are a filthy d1ck sucking boko h0m0 terrorist, you would have deactivated your useless account by now including the other female account you use to seduce males here.

Whenever you're saying what you can't prove just go and see a psychiatrist because that's a sign that you're gradually running mad!

How can you quote someone and type another thing just to malign the person?

Please direct all followers of this thread to the thread where what you quoted above could be found!

Rostikol:
Do you know that the only reason you believe in Jesus is that it was drilled into your head as a child before your brain was developed enough to filter out bullshiit? If you heard the story as an adult for the first time, you would instantly reject it. You would never accept that somebody was born by a virgin and raised the dead, and flew up into heaven at a dinner table before onlookers.

Whatever you read in the Bible wasn't meant to be taken seriously by any intelligent person until you see the fulfilment of what God promised that's the time you can't beat it but believe every detail about Jesus of Nazareth who is called CHRIST!

Of course it can never sound well to anyone that a child was born by a virgin but what about meeting a global group of people who has used the counsel found in a book to settle all their racial disparities peacefully among themselves, diverted their resources into the production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of destructive devices and vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman? {Isaiah 2:2-4} whereas billions of dollars are spent on daily basis by others who aren't members of that group to amass destructive devices and train men, women and children to continue killing themselves! Revelations 6:3-4

Do you think such a thing is possible?

Well with the wise counsel found in Jesus' word written in the Bible {Isaiah 9:6} a global family of peace loving worshipers has sufficed doing God's will just as it was prophesied in the that book.

That's what made me believe everything written about how Jesus of Nazareth was born and how he lived his life! Hebrews 11:1

Blasphemy is an act of irreverence towards anything considered inviolable; the act of disregarding a convention!

So speaking against laid down principles that has been established and revered for decades could be taken as BLASPHEMY.

In any community anyone who raise his or her tongue to utter worthless things against what that community holds so dear has committed blasphemy that's why it's important to be well informed about the society in which we live!

Misinterpretation and misinformation led to all of these there is no Old or New Testament!

According to God's word in the beginning God never listed rules for Adam and Eve except just one instruction {Genesis 2:17} they were free to do whatever pleases them in that garden but after their rebellion God abandoned them only to start talking to their children who later showed interest in God {Genesis 4:3-4} Adam and Eve chose to be totally independent while their children seek God's face that's give hope to mankind's redemption that some of Adam's descendants will like to subject themselves under God's direction but things has gone too bad for them, in what way?
After the rebellion Adam and all his children has been subjected to sin which will result to sickness, suffering and death, with all of these many of Adam's descendants will try to live big hence look for ways to steal and cheat their fellowman but God allowed for over thousand years before He introduced Himself fully to one of Adam's descendants called "Abraham"

Abraham's descendants will have to start living by some forms of standard that most inhabitants of the earth don't know but God didn't start with Abraham's sons He started the rules after a descendant of Abraham called Jacob took all his children to the world's most powerful nation and there all his children became slaves with no hope of liberty as Egypt continue to grow stronger and stronger enjoying the service of their slaves (Israelites) that is the time God took two octogenarians to Egypt one acting as a demigod while the other acting as a prophet of the demigod {Exodus 7:1} with this two God delivered the descendants of Jacob in Egypt that's when God told them that if they will continue to be His people He will make a COVENANT with them as His special possession out of all the families of the earth {Exodus 19:5} then later God gave them laws that will serve as the nations CONSTITUTION!

When Jesus came he continued to live by the same rules under that same nation but after Christianity was established the GOOD NEWS must be taken to all other nations of the earth where people don't know the God of Jacob so the constitution God gave Israel can't work outside the boarders of Israel that is why Jesus appointed Paul a former pharisee {Act 9:15; 23:6} trained by one of the most conscientious rabbis in the first century called Gamaliel! Act 22:3 compare to Act 5:34

Paul was chosen by Christ Jesus to teach other nations how to practice what Jesus taught in their respective lands under different governments and constitutions.

The laws given to the nation of Israel continue to be in force until God rejected that nation because they rejected Jesus of Nazareth {Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38} later the Romans came as executioners to destroy both Jerusalem and it's temple {Luke 21:22-24} YES Jerusalem lost all the glory and that was the end of God's dealings with that nation! Matthew 24:3

After the destruction of Jesus in the first century the true God has nothing to do with Israel or the law covenant they're carrying anymore because the main reason why God formed that nation and gave them laws was to prepare them for the coming of Christ {Deuteronomy 18:18} as they unanimously condemned the Christ {Matthew 27:25} God has condemned that nation and all that has to do with them! Deuteronomy 18:19


So if anyone is quoting the laws God gave that ancient nation back then let them know that God is no longer interested in that nation and the law covenant He made with them when they came out of Egypt rather God has chosen a new nation {Matthew 21:43} that embraced Christ and established a New covenant with them! Jeremiah 31:31-33

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Rostikol:
When una go get sense?
The English people who taught you this nonsense don’t bother with church anymore.
They’ve converted their churches to schools, nightclubs, banks and bars.
They have done the research and realise the Jesus tale is a MYTH.
A Roman fabrication.
He never existed.
When will you colonised cretins snap out of this nonsense?

The separation began in the year 1914 when Jesus returned as a mighty spirit king to separate his father's sheep from Satan's goats! Matthew 13:30
Before then false religionists (atheists) always hide in the gathering of God's people with no clue to trace them but since 1914 Jesus' angels started gathering faithful people throughout the world so no matter the religion they are Jesus' angels keep leading us to them.
The English were never Christians so they used the Bible as a tool to further their conquest of the world the real Christians came to Africa after Jesus restructured his group in America and sent them to all the nations of the earth that is when true disciples of Christ came knocking on our doors from house to house just as he commanded them! Matthew 10:11-13

Busybrain2233:
Believe me, you're the dumbest theist I have encountered so far.
Your ignorance is second to none.

Ọmọ it's ATHEIST'S AFFAIRS nah so enjoy the offer while it last!

Majeste:
Now you are telling truth yet you still won't name them. They will throw you into the bush and you will never be found. I name them all the time and out in public speaking. Stop giving me a hard time. You seem envious.

See mumu lying to himself when you've been envying me all these while knowing fully well that i'm fully loaded with understanding about what is happening in the world.
Ọmọ you can continue deceiving yourself with the information Satan's agents are passing out to unbelievers on the internet Jehovah's Witnesses have all the truth!