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odenkirk:
i will have peace of mind knowing that i dont rely on anyone to help me

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm this is deceit 100%

You need people to lean (rely) on each day of your life but due to egotism and pride you may feel that's not necessary!

oteneaaron:
This is how Professor Alyona concluded the research paper -

Tell me one benefit of your professor's research!
Millions across the globe have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again in support of politics and racism. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

If a quarter of the earth could believe this the earth will be a Paradise by now, that's what Jesus of Nazareth achieved with the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses in our day as he comes into their midst as promised {Matthew 18:20} using God's Holy Spirit to direct them on policies that will lead to his father's will which is all believers should have the same line of thought! John 17:22

MindHacker9009:
Okay show the prophecies in the Old Testament that an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day to be the fulfilment of those prophecies?

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself.
God's word has foretold enough to help honest hearted individuals see reasons that Jesus of Nazareth is the promised Messiah, calling for everything that happened to Jesus to be foretold only shows how faithless you are!

oteneaaron:
And yet another tactic of indoctrination used by destructive religious organizations.
Does this strike a chord?

Ọmọ you've challenge all religionists including traditionalists so in a nutshell you're an atheist!

oteneaaron:
It still continues -
Does this sound familiar to you?

The funny thing here is that instead of you doubting the organization you willingly joined ọmọ the best thing is to disassociate and take your leave. But what about the country where you are born, bread and raised only for those ruling to impose certain things on you yet they will not yield to the same rules?

Janosky:
. God controls information.
Government controls information.
Educational institutions at all levels controls information.

Save yourself that precious time you're using
to post Dustbin materials

Gbamsolutely!

When i told them it's a good thing to be an agent of the intelligence before studying God's word they were abusing me.
If he's not a fool how come the government always censor some information even though they're true?

Janosky:
You posted this GIBBERISH after Professor Alyona G. Ayrapetova, doctor of philosophy (PhD) & Trismegistus, your mentors, controlled your time & activity (behaviour) to indoctrinate you. According to your personal text, Have you forgotten you are a slave?Ozuo

Oteneaaron is now pained to the marrow!

All his efforts to turn everyone against God's organization has proved to be futile.
First he was telling stories about freemason using double accounts but after responding to himself for months he got frustrated only to come up with the truth as spoken by Christ's brother that newly born babies are enemies of God. I waited to see those useless, worthless, hopeless and faithless miscreants claiming Christians to come and prove brother Stephen wrong but they never showed up.
That's why i corrected the fool and told him to watch out for any so called believer who will come out and refute what i quoted in the Bible.
Seeing that none of his friends could raise the biblical references to refute what Stephen Leth said he ran mad and came out openly to accuse all religions.
Abeg anyone accusing (all) religions no be atheist?

MindHacker9009:
The True God of Israel has commanded "Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations. (Deuteronomy 13:1)" and did not raise up those that started a new religion of women going into a tomb on the third day with anointing oil on which a FAKE messiah was declared which you are now following and wants others to follow too like a programmed robot. And before you run away again, where does it say in the Old Testament that the new covenant is going to be based on an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day be the basis for this new covenant?

You've dismissed all the prophesies pointing to Jesus of Nazareth as the promised Messiah so there's no need asking for prophecies since you won't take it even though it's written in black and white!

MindHacker9009:
You have added your own made up stories to the already made up stories. The Words of GOD about the Jews still remains the same that He will make the Jews a light for the Gentiles, and not the Gentiles a light for the Jews as you have been trying to make it with made up stories.
"I will also make you a light for the Gentiles that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.” Isaiah 49:6
And before you run away again, where does it say in the Old Testament that the new covenant is going to be based on an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day be the basis for this new covenant?

The God of Abraham promised the Israelites that they will become the light but when they kept turning against his prophets He declare:

I love those loving me, And those seeking me will find me. Proverbs 8:17

So the true God has raised up children for Abraham from other nations due to their faith and the love they showed for His name! Joel 2:32

I wonder the name those confused Jews have agreed to call upon for their salvation perhaps you think God has no option but to save them whether they're faithful or faithless!

MightySparrow:
As much as any human group is indoctrinated, the Army, Science, Law.... mention it. Any thing or knowledge that makes a people group reason same way without real questioning or questions that changes nothing in the now is manipulation. Hahaha, my friend, these points are all the hallmarks of JWs. Destructive religiousity

Pentecostal Jesus should know better after all the real Jesus prayed to his father that all his disciples should have the same line of thought {John 17:22} so if you feel Jesus was initiating something evil it's OK but i believe in his word!

oteneaaron:
You sound rattled. Be calm. I haven't even started yet.

Ọmọ nah you dey hot seat nah!

I'm JW for life and i only have time for the people Jesus sent us to fish out: the lost sheep of the house of Israel! Matthew 10:6


So you can continue with your stories against religion in general i'm just surprised that your friends claiming believers aren't here to cheer you up apart from yourself using the other account (Courz) to commend yourself!

If you don't believe in the God of Abraham i've got nothing to drag with you but whoever sees himself or herself as a worshiper of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the one i'm ready to debate!

sonmvayina:
This is what Isaiah wrote....
The child has already been given...
And you wonder why I call you dummy...
Did jesus sit on Davids thrown?
None of the two contradictory genealogies in both Mathew and Luke can produce a king...
I wonder why you can't see beyond your nose..

Go out there and quote this for your Jewish friends i know the prophecy is about Jesus of Nazareth who is the prince of peace!

GO ON PREACHING AGAINST RELIGION IN GENERAL my friend.

I won't disturb whatever you say after all your friends claiming believers are all involved in this so you and i have no issues but once you come up against pure worship i will use the truth to dismantle your missiles! Isaiah 54:17

If all of you are sincere the question you need to ask credulous religionists are there facing you!

The God of Abraham destroyed millions of babies in the days of Noah, thousands in Sodom and Gomorrah, thousands in Jericho and Amalek.

Abraham father of all those having faith said to this God:

"I know you too well that it's unthinkable on your part to destroy the good along with the evil" Genesis 18:25

This man surely has heard of how this God he's talking to destroyed millions of babies in Noah's days yet he said it's unthinkable of his God to destroy the good along with the wicked.

Please ask yourselves:

Are babies God's friends from Abraham's viewpoint?

If babies aren't God's enemies (evil) why did God destroy them along with their evil parents?

I'm not asking atheists but waiting for answers from those claiming they believe in the God of Abraham since he is the father of all those having faith.

Prove you people know the God of Abraham much more than Stephen Leth whom the OP is quoting!

sonmvayina:
But it is true...
How can a woman become pregnant without the input of a man?
I had A3 in biology and reproduction was my favourite topic in school...

How can the sea be divided into two separate parts?

sonmvayina:
Nobody is insulting you...
Why would you see black and call it white ?
You read the verse in context and saw that it was referencing somebody that was already born..Now you are twisting it...

Ọmọ you don't have to start calling names just figure out how a person could be called "Mighty God" and "Everlasting Father" whose reign will never end {Isaiah 9:6-7} before arguing that it's someone who is now dead and buried while his kingdom has been overturned by other nations!

Dude instead of quoting me to spew nonsense why not address the post like a Bible scholar and talk about the quotations backing my post?

If babies are God's friends then why did He destroy millions during the time of Noah?
What did babies in Sodom and Gomorrah do?
What about the babies in Jericho and Amalek?

That's what you need to explain instead of the stupid argument you want to put up without a scriptural backing!

MrPresident1:
You are defending satanism right here on this Nairaland, I mean, there are people defending satanism on Nairaland? Children are the enemies of God, due to 'Adamic sin'?

All of you will be wiped away. None of you dogs of Satan will escape hellfire. Not a single of you will escape judgment

Babies are enemies of God?

The effrontery and the brazen in-your-face no holds barred endless and continuous blasphemy! Una no dey fear?

Kez11:
CC: jaephoenix

When you're reading people's posts think deeply before quoting them, Zechariah and his wife Elizabeth didn't pray for a child that's why God gave them a son that will not last after their demise.
Do you pray for a son like John the baptist?
Before you respond let me remind you of what happened to the young man.
He never lived a normal life because he doesn't wear normal clothes like other youths, he never thought of marrying talkless having children and he died about 30 years old.

So tell me who among you will pray for a child like John the baptist?

Well Zechariah and Elizabeth served God with all their hearts that's why God purposely included them in the story of Jesus Christ just as faithful pagans of old like Rahab and Ruth also found themselves favored by the God who is faithful to those who are faithful! Matthew 1:5

I only mentioned you to help you grasp what actually happened there, Zechariah and Elizabeth had the child they didn't pray for before Jesus Christ and nobody in the new testament prayed for a child after Jesus!

MindHacker9009:
Till today there are plenty of Jews that write and speak Hebrew and Aramaic so why was the New Testament first written in Greek if it was as you claimed that it's "A book written and copied by Jews"?

The disciples of Christ first preached among the Jews but their religious leaders insisted they shouldn't preach about Jesus in their synagogues {Act 4:18; 5:28; 13:50; 14:2,19} in what language do you think those Jewish disciples of Christ were preaching to their brothers in their synagogues?
Well it's their own tongue "Hebrew" that's why apostles Paul could write a letter to his people attending the Hebrew speaking congregation! Hebrews 1:1

It was after much pressure, intimidation and persecution that they concluded to write all their accounts in the most popular language of their time - Greek

Today what Jesus uttered back then in his own mother tongue has been translated to thousands of languages today globally but what happens to the Jews and their pride?

Jesus said their house (land) has been abandoned {Matthew 23:38} they will cry and cry and cry nobody will welcome them in any land as servants of God while those believing in Jesus of Nazareth are loved, cared for and celebrated globally!

At a point in time i was like you but i don't just expect to be schooled by different people having contracting opinions i spoke with members of various religions one on one before i believe in Jesus.
From your response i discovered you're out to express your grievances towards the conflicting doctrines about religion so i will advise you to stick to whatever suits you.

As for Jesus of Nazareth none of those claiming they believe in him has ever seen him perform any miracles what we all know about him are stories written in a book called "Bible" the same is applicable to all other Gods be it African or Asian Gods.

As for those you're referring to as intelligent these ones invented things useful for us all but both them and all others that have lived before them failed woefully to do something that Jesus was able to do even in his absence.

The Bible refered to Jesus as the Wonderful Counselor and Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} i never knew the meaning of these titles until i met Jesus' real disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses) this people are imperfect like everyone else and they have their individual flaws like all other religionists but with what Jesus laid down they're able to solve the problem that none as in NONE of all the religions existing before this group sufficed could attempt with all their Gods!

What is this problem?

Throughout history politics has been the one and only reason why people kill people without thinking twice, brothers, friends, blood relations and many more finds it really difficult to settle their scores in the face of politics without resorting to violence but with Jesus' teachings Jehovah's Witnesses are fulfilling the prophecy recorded in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3 and concluded in the Bible book of Zephaniah 3:9

YES millions throughout the earth have vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman in the name of politics because this group has taught them to love their neighbours as themselves just as Jesus Christ commanded! Mark 12:31

Please fish out any philosopher no matter how intelligent he or she is whose teaching or idea has helped in making people vow never to be part of those making, buying, selling or using weapons again! Psalms 46:9

Dabronze:
At first bolded I think the reason why people are worshiping Jesus is because he's extraordinary human
Before the doctrination of religion was introduced to Africa they have their own god of which this god are supernatural human being After the arrival of the colonial master they make their African god inferior

At second bolded
My question is you said Jesus is most intelligent but there are many philosopher and scientists with many inventions that ate useful for me and you
But the god that you said is most intelligent has nothing useful except unknown heaven promise

Third bolded
What is their offense before they where killed

Forth bolded
But most Christian that I have met don't believe this they will be pointing at the sky that was where heaven was located
But the Jehovah Witness are total different ball game those one said heaven is right here on this earth What a confusion and illusion

sonmvayina:
Lol...yea...
Define a dummy..

Default mode!
When they disagree with you the next thing is name calling!

sonmvayina:
Says every intelligent and knowledgeable human being..

Continue deceiving yourself!

God never send Satan any message to deliver to mankind, there is no literal place called hell and heaven is not for humans.

If you want to know the truth pray to God as you know from your heart and He will send His messengers to teach you all you need to do is be hospitable to people who come to visit you in the name of God! Romans 10:13-15; Hebrews 13:2

Dabronze:
I have some questions to ask
Why god didn't allow Jesus to procreate (have children)

2.There are many philosopher that are inlegent as Jesus so being intelligent as to do with religions

3.Bible didn't explain how the rest of the disciples end their life including Judas the betrayal

4. When Jesus died on the cross in Calvary he said is over I.e all our sins are over but why did god created hell fire

Before Jesus Israelites were anticipating the birth of Christ but after Christ faithful servants of God don't think of raising children anymore rather they think of helping as many as they could to gain accurate knowledge. Jesus on his own part isn't human so he must return to his home (heaven) that's why raising children isn't his portion.

I don't get your second question.

The Bible explained how Judas Iscariot ended his life but other apostles died when narration of the stories has ended. The only four disciples who thought of telling the stories are Matthew (wrote a gospel in his name) Mark (wrote a gospel in his name) Luke (wrote a gospel and the book of Acts) and John (wrote the book of Revelation and later a gospel in his name) so Luke included in his account of Acts how Stephen and apostle James were killed.

Jesus completed his own earthly assignment it's left to each person to work out his or her own salvation by exercising faith in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus.
As for what most people call Hell it simply means Grave God never create anything like a place of torment for the dead!

Dabronze:
Maybe because he wasn't giving order by god to have sex with women even when he finds any women that is more attractive that spiritual punishment to frown at

Of all those born of women Jesus is the most handsome, intelligent, friendly and jovial!

Let's use his encounter with the Samaritan lady as a case study:

Jesus walked up to Jacob's well and there was a beautiful attractive young lady fetching water so Jesus asked her for a drink, the lady responded grudgingly because Jews don't like talking to Samaritans so how come this young and charming looking Jews approached her for water? John 4:7-9

Then Jesus told her that he has a special type of water that this lady needs and she won't need to come back for water at the well! John 4:10

Due to his friendly smile and confidence this lady asked the young man "are you greater than our great grandfather Jacob who dug this well and drank from it with his children throughout their lives?" {John 4:11-12} she's driving at something but she can't just conclude without the response of this young Jewish man. So Jesus' response sparked another thought in her mind:

“Everyone drinking from this water will get thirsty again. Whoever drinks from the water that I will give him will never get thirsty at all, but the water that I will give him will become in him a spring of water bubbling up to impart everlasting life.” John 4:13-14

Wow, This young Jew wants to flirt! She thought so pretending not to understand Jesus she sarcastically asked "please give me this (miracle) water" {John 4:15} but because Jesus had something else in mind he asked he to go and call her husband {John 4:16} but she's already flowing why will he change the subject? So she responded swiftly "i have no husband" well Jesus now blew her mind by telling her the thoughts in her mind “You are right in saying, ‘I do not have a husband.’ For you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. This you have said truthfully.” John 4:17-18

This is really strange! Because if Jesus could know about the woman's past life how can he know of what she's thinking in her heart?
Jesus didn't only tell her about her past but also what she's thinking about her present husband!

So she surrendered perhaps this handsome young Jewish man isn't a flirt but a prophet of God! John 4:19

From this discussion do you need to be told that Jesus is friendly and jovial?
Remember Jews always frown whenever they come in contact with Samaritans even Jesus when sending out his twelve disciples for the first time to go and preach strictly warned them to avoid Samaritans! Matthew 10:6

So personally Jesus is a free person that's ever approachable though as a Jew he must inculcate in the minds of his people the love for neighbours whether such ones happens to be of their own tribe or not! Luke 10:25-37

NO he is not Elijah!

And they asked him: “What, then? Are you E·liʹjah?” He replied: “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered: “No!” John 1:21

Jesus later said about John the baptist:

For all, the Prophets and the Law, prophesied until John; and if you are willing to accept it, he is ‘E·liʹjah who is to come.’ Let the one who has ears listen. Matthew 11:13-15

Are these two contradicting themselves?

The holy spirit will help us!

When JWs taught you and you left the group it seems you now know better than those in the organization shey?
Ọmọ search and see anyone who claims he is a Christian that will come and refute my first post on this thread.

MaxInDHouse:
If you don't understand something just ask and you will be informed! Matthew 7:7-8

All babies are God's enemies for sure because we are all born atheists it's our parents that must struggle really hard to inculcate in our hearts love for God through intensive teaching along with thorough monitoring to make sure we build in our hearts the love for God! Deuteronomy 6:4-7

That's why most children nowadays are swiftly turning to atheism (default mode) because the parents aren't really believers in God and they can't give what they don't have. Each believer must see his or her child like an arrow that doesn't know the direction it should go so it's the parent that will serve as skillful archers {Psalms 127:4} and direct the child to the place he should go! Proverbs 22:6

When God created the first couple they were perfect but after they sinned they can't produce perfect children {Romans 3:23; 5:12} King David confirmed this when he said:

Look! I was born guilty of error, And my mother conceived me in sin. Psalms 51:5

So it's this inherited sin that made all babies enemies of God because sin is not of God!

I have input all the needed quotations so that any so called believer can't say the man you're talking about is wrong.
Why do you think Jehovah never cared about millions of babies destroyed in Noah's days?
What about babies destroyed in Sodom and Gomorrah?
Do you remember Jericho?
What about Amalek?

Ọmọ all newly born babies are ENEMIES of the true God not until their parents inculcate in their minds the love of God through teaching {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} that's why Jehovah so much cherish the Israelites because this people have His laws and they have been told to teach their children in order for their little ones to become God's friends!

oteneaaron:
I don't know about you, but I don't agree with what he is saying neither do I "understand" what he is saying. Are babies enemies of the God you serve?

jaephoenix:
Lol. You keep shooting yourself in the foot in the attempt to defend your crew.
So you mean after fasting and praying to Yahweh, he answers their prayers by sending his enemies to his own people?
Max, are you sure you don't need a shrink?

Guy right from the time Christ ushered in the New covenant faithful servants of God no longer pray to have babies because they know better than those who did in the past.

You only need to ask anyone on this forum to quote a place in the Christian Greek Scriptures (New Testament) where any faithful servant of God pray for babies!

The man the OP is quoting is a BORN AGAIN Christian, this people don't believe in having children so they don't pray for babies rather they take the lead in helping many to gain the accurate knowledge of God.

Instead of arguing blindly why not ask any so called Christian on this forum to quote a verse in the New Testament where a believer pray for a child!

MindHacker9009:
You are bringing up a made up story to support a FAKE messiah. GOD in the Old Testament has stated that HE will make the Jews a light for the Gentiles that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth and GOD did not say HE would make the gentiles a light for the Jews.

"I will also make you a light for the Gentiles that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.” Isaiah 49:6

And again before you run away, where does it say in the Old Testament that the new covenant is going to be based on an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day be the basis for this new covenant?

What evidence do you have that the whole book wasn't made up?

A book written and copied by Jews but you're trying to say a part was made up simply because some Jews disagreed with what was written yet according to the one you claim to believe it has always been the attitude of this Jewish people to disbelieve prophets that says what they don't want to hear!

jaephoenix:
So if I come up with JW threads, that means I envy them?

Ọmọ as an atheist you're just envying faithful people that's why you're (most) active on the religion section of a forum that has lots of sections!

When you choose to criminalize God's people you will be shocked that there's nothing you can pick in God's word to blackmail us.
The book Bible belongs to us so when we handle it we will prove to you that no weapon (negative thoughts) can beat our fine WORKS because we will always silence you and all those that rise up against pure worship! Isaiah 54:17