What is your definition of inferior and/or quality products/services?

I think you're the one that needs some brushing up. Please familiarize yourself with the difference between quality and grade.

I dare say he has provided more than enough info when probed for the discerning mind to figure and he should not be responsible for anyone's the lack of understanding.

And how do you publicly and boldly label someone which you've NEVER done business with (and have no intention of doing biz with) a scammer or fraud
I also suggest you withdraw that statement and apologize to the fellow.

Nothing wey michlins (abi musa) no go see for gate oh.

Again, both of you should do better.

EgunMogaji2:


I will always challenge your prices when you don't specify exactly what you are selling and try to pass it off as that your prices are better.

You are making inferior products and trying to pass it off as being equal to those costing more. You don't use stronger pressed top and side frames.

Just simply advertise that you make low cost doors. Those doors are available all over Nigeria, you're offering nothing special.

How many of those doors have you sold on here? Personally, I think you're a fraud at best but maybe just an ordinary scammer.

Absolute crap!

And this coming from same set of people that'll write about innovation, development, exposure, doing things the standard way, following best practices and all other load of BS.

Is this how you engage or scrutinize a service provider?

Even if this is the kind of behavior expected of the regular guy on the street, i thought you guys are supposed to be different and classy?

n3xt:


Don’t be angry with us.

Here if you offer us something at a ridiculously cheap price, we will ask you “How much for the original one?”

It’s left for you to convince us beyond reasonable doubt that you’re right and we are wrong.

That might require you sending a sample down to Ibadan for us to dissect

That’s who we are over here! We are not mean

I took the vehicle for electrical fault diagnosis and the alternator was reported to be faulty. It wasn't completely dead but was said to be slowly or partially charging and discharging (hence the battery drain).

The interesting thing is just by the technician fiddling with the alternator during the checks (disconnect - test - reconnect) the vehicle worked fine without that issue again for some weks. This gave me time to plan for the outright replacement.

It repeated again after about 2 weeks, then i replaced the alternator. No issues again since then.

kunki90:
Hi, how were you able to solve this- have got the same issue with my camry; contemplating which to change, battery or alternator

*post deleted*..found info in previous response

poseidonsaiz:
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At this rate, a lot of projects are going to be suspended. Materials have steadily been on the rise and its getting to levels where it doesn't make sense in relation to initial projections, especially for those building to sell at a pre-agreed price.

KolaShangOne:
How are you guys coping with this spike in cost of iron rods? Bought 12mm for 2300 some weeks ago, bought for 2800 few days ago... Yesterday it was 2900!!!!

there are six pillars in the picture if you look well... its only the middle demarcation wall that doesn't have pillars.

GoodFaith:


No pillars at the four corners?
Casting after 6 block setting

To be fair the guy assumed you meant you did a 5 meter HIGH foundation and was only trying to clarify if you meant to say 5ft (instead of the 5m you wrote). Hence he stated that 5m is about 15ft oh...

Make we dey calm down sometimes.

N5m not 5m.

@Chekitaut

Enyinne:
Oga , Your not an engineer and knows nothing about building. Always responding sarcastically when people says there cost . Always believe the cost spent on building esp foundation as cost is variable and all land conditions are not same .Respectable member here gave me a quote of 12.7m to erect from foundation to decking without his professional fee .When I received it , i doubted it and decided to buy all materials by myself and labour as i was feeling his quotation was much but i must confess i hv spent very very closely to that amount to achieve foundation to decking . So mind ur language at times as meself no get joy now .

Hello,

Do you have a white bricks external wall tiles as shown below?

Thanks

Do we need to still screed the wall if we are going to apply tyroline/graffitex before painting?
I wouldn't think that'll be necessary again?

cc. n3xt

gbadexy:

Graffitex is the heavyweight of paints so is the cost.

Hello painters in the house and anyone with experience with this.

The rough finish we see across the attached pictures are quite common nowadays, my questions are;

1/ Which kind of paint is used to achieve that rough finish?

2/ Does the wall need to be prepared differently from other plastered areas? Just as we leave the wall rough for wall tiles, is that same or it should be plastered smooth.

3/ Do we need to screed the areas or not if we want to achieve that horizontal groove/band and rough finish in those little sections as in pictures 1&2?

Any other specific tips are welcome.

Thanks

You've been told what to do yet still asking again...

What does the bolded mean in simple unambiguous terms?

Donoppy:


Firstly I would love to thank you for your concern.
I don’t have the approval drawing because the architect that did the drawing said an approval scheme hasn’t be set up yet for the site premises where construction is ongoing.
But I have all my drawings and the architect made sure they are up to standard for approval when I need to make approval.
So please at this stage which the site is already at the column level , what can I do please to say myself from this mess.
Thanks once more for your concern

The discussion on poverty index and demography is actually quite relevant and indirectly related to real estate, especially for those building for commercial/business purposes.

If we don't understand and correctly classify the purchasing power of the buying public we may end up building at a loss or struggle to sell if not correctly priced.

IMHO,based on verifiable facts out there...ours is a large market but when you properly break down that 200m market you discover we are a poor people in terms of % and absolute numbers wrt. GDP per capita.

Those cases sighted are just outliers...look at the aggregate numbers and its telling.

qdlvy:


n = 1

This whole statement makes little sense. There's no point to this debate if you guys are going to be using anecdotes as data points.

Let's get back to construction thing please. I'm just here to learn a thing or two about the building process here.

n3xt:


The aim of my last post is to present an argument that the measures of poverty and inequality are becoming less reliable over time.

A client who work with IFC contracted me to build a house for him and I told him the project is too big. He took me to his folks houses in the village and he said “Look at these guys, they’ve not stepped out of this country and their houses are quite bigger than mine.”

If you ask an average Nigerian how they’re fairing, they’ll tell you “We are managing.” Yet they build houses and run businesses without loans.

The temptation to interpret happiness and subjective wellbeing of Nigerians as a cardinal measure may lead to misleading conclusions.

The same way we claim there are no jobs in Nigeria. I was at popular gate market in Ibadan few weeks ago and all I saw were endless opportunities.



Back to Construction

EgunMogaji2:


I know how much I’ve paid my bricklaying crew over the past 3 months. If any of them say they’re poor they should be ashamed of themselves. Though I recognize that some work are cyclical.

Hello everyone,

Whats the going rate to pay mason for installation of door subframe during plastering?

Who's job is it self? carpenter that made the frames or mason or both?

Thanks!

I feel you but this is no different from other businesses in the country with their associated risks. You have to de-risk somehow, if that involves "gbetu-gbetu" then so be it ... literarily!

-Did you purchase a new, imported toks or locally fairly used truck?
-Was the truck exclusive for your jobs (and those you accept from reliable 3rd party) only or outsourced to general public?
-Was the driver on call-out basis only for your jobs or he had delivery targets to meet?
-I'm sure you would have made a business decision on doing comprehensive insurance or not after careful analysis, hence the reason you had to cough out dough to fix the pole and streetlight damages from those incidents.

You know that even your regular private car driver could run into those same or similar accidents? Even the e-hailing biz isn't free from those sorry tales but some have manged to run a profitable biz from it.

Point is, while i recognize the peculiarities of, and intricacies involved, in the 9ja biz operating environment, and accept haulage in particular is not for the faint-hearted, there are always mitigation to bring the risks to a reasonably practicable level.
If the model is right and you apply learnings from your first venture, there's something in there with the combined volume between your jobs and those of your like-minded colleagues/client/associates.

You're a smart dude, and there's a reason you're looking to buy another one despite your previous experience. What's different? abi you don sign up for your own "gbetu-gbetu" now?

Keep it up, and like you mentioned...ignore the naysayers!

n3xt:


No sir. I sold it off already. Looking at buying a new one.

The few times I tried this my driver brought me “gbese”

The first one was at monastery road where he knock off a streetlight. We spent over 700k to fix the truck and sort out police.

The second one was in Ikota Villa, he brought down electricity pole and we had to pay to reinstall the poles.

Unless one is that crude Ijebu man who have “gbetu gbetu” in his pocket, running truck business ain’t for faint-hearted. The guys will do deals overnight when you give them the chance.

Absolutely! I know the breakdown of the cost.

Where is the primary location of your truck?
I know you're active around our project locations, so are you open to 3rd party use within reasonable distance and with gentleman agreement in place?

n3xt:


Smiles. This is one reason I bought a Mack dump truck.

Most of these materials aren’t really that expensive. Bulk of your money goes to middlemen (Truck owner, Driver, Suppliers and Suppliers Association)

I laff in ijebu language.

I only replied you cos you've been quite helpful and it appears your project is in that axis. There are always china truck plying the lekki-epe express fully loaded with plaster sand, wave/flash one of them down and make direct inquiries from them.

That's how i sourced and I have bought over 5 trips of 30T so far and will still be needing more soon.

You may get it 5k-10k less (or more) but forget about those rates you're looking for. Infact run if anyone offers you at such rate.

davodyguy:

This is damn too high. Haba.

WHERE are we going in Nigeria?

Don't they want people to build again?

I can't pay more between ₦40-₦50k for 20tons

20T sells for around +/-90K and 30T ~135K in the lekki - ajah axis.

davodyguy:
Good evening all.

What's the current price of actual 20Tons plaster sand?

I need 3*20tons but from someone that would guarantee 20tons to be exact and also not sell sharp sand in place of plaster sand.

How much does it cost to do each of the window hood?

true2home:
Hey NLers, Lets put few Hood around the windows and Doors in the works

It is indeed a numbers game...

If we want to be super analytical, then we may also factor time value of money, cost of time savings using plasterboard vs extra time spent casing PoP, marginal premium you could extract from neater finish obtainable with plasterboard vs extra cost incurred for housekeeping in the case of PoP, plus other factors that may come to play.

At the end, with all factors considered, the difference will be marginal and not as significant for some cases.

This is not the first time this is being suggested to me lately so i was just doing some extra validation by following the discussion. It's right up there for consideration ahead of PoP for any of our project with tight time schedule.

Builders are generally not open to critical examination and somewhat slow adopters of innovation. My observation.

n3xt:


This is with the assumption that I’ll get a metre of cornice for N2,000. Nay!

I wish you know the number of cornices that can be produced in a bag of POP cement.

Why should I buy 1 metre of cornice 2k when the whole board, cornice and installation is 4k. Cornice is way cheaper bro!

Bros, this is really a number game

Everything counts.

Thanks man.

Could it have been used to go around (down-across-back up) and cover that internal beam shown in your third and last picture?

n3xt:


The picture below shows how close it can get to the ceiling noggins.

The 2nd picture show it’s less than 7in drop from the slab so we were able to achieve 3.1m headroom.
You can see the boards didn’t drop beneath the structural beams.

This here is correct but you kept saying before that there is no other tax compliance required other than what you called "property tax" (whatever that means)
Taking it from here and to clarify from my personal processing with the Eti-Osa guys and LIRS...

Yes, LIRS will take the opportunity of your pending building approval application to ensure your INCOME TAX is up to date for the last three years up till your year of application. If not, you will be accessed a lumpsum fee to be paid. That is communicated via one of the letters as you rightly mentioned.

And yes, one can challenge that but you really have to have a good basis e.g. proof of your income and tax remittances... this is where folks in diaspora or with tax record from outside lagos get stuck. I have been in that situation and got someone locally to do some running around...we got a reduced assessment, created LIRS account and paid directly into the govt coffers.
By the next time i had to process building permit it was much more easier due to the payment history.

So, the tax clearance from LIRS is to confirm your compliance with statutory income tax requirements either as an individual or as a corporate org.

Oliran:

I am sure the person ticked all what is required to get approval for you. However it is done in stages.
From your description I am guessing it's a bungalow, I'll list the stages below.

Stage 1:
Survey
Architectural drawings

The survey is charted to be sure your land is free of Government acquisition, your drawing is vetted and ensure comply with the required setback,airspaces etc.

Stage 2:
Someone from the district office will go for site visit to be sure of the size of land and confirm you've not started building if it is a proposed drawing.

Stage3:
Calculations are done using your architectural drawings to calculate assessment, the amount is depending on the size of the building (Length,Breadth and Height), the rate also depends on the location, Lekki fee is not same as Ikorodu fee. Each LGA is categorized into Low, Medium and High density.

Stage4:

After payment is done, the receipt for payment, deed of Assignment for the land, Affidavit with stamp duty and your passports with your drawings is used to open a file for you, a registration number will be issued.
The file is then forwarded to LIRS

Last Stage is the tax clearance stage.


I hope this helps.

false!
Pls clarify what you refer to "property tax"

Oliran:


The tax clearance means he has been cleared off property tax, meaning he has paid property tax.

How does the cost compare per sqm with PoP?

Wyloutproperty:


we have been using plaster boards since 2010, they are easier and neater to work with, and have no issues. Check out our thread since 2012

https://www.nairaland.com/1082585/2020-building-construction-office-fitout


We are the Engineer's engineer, We are a team of Materials, Civil and Geotechnical Engineers.

Hello,

How did this go?
is that what you eventually used? I'll like to know how it came out to guide my selection for same.

Thanks

yinkaoke:
Good morning n happy Sunday great people of progress.
Please who knows of plaster sand from ltokin In Ogun? Please is it a white sand with much gums?

I need ur knowledge n experience of using the sand if okay?

Thanks for ur feedbacks

no,but thanks.
will be using solid wooden flush doors as per design.

michlins:
good evening sir. If you're in need of locally made iron doors built with quality materials with durability in mind, contact me on 07032fourfour6904

Hello,

Do you still sell this?

Which do you have in stock now?

Thanks

Good job man.. you've done well. more grace to see it to completion.

Mail received too. Thanks

davodyguy:

Mail sent.

Please negotiate what's good for you and get a better deal than I got, if possible.

As I said in my mail, visit his factory, select whatever you want negotiate. Touch the materials yourself, snap, and if you so wish buy from him and if you don't agree, feel free to walk to other places in Mushin

Wish you all the best

Cheers

We started in in Mid April, during lockdown and roofed early July.

All direct Labour and I got all materials myself, only paid all workers

You cannot be more ijebu than a born and breed ijebu boy form both paternal & maternal side.
We need about 65 doors, quality but value for money.

I've sent you a message.

davodyguy:





Hello guys.

Sorry for responding late.

I'm an 'ijebu' man, so I always get quotes from different sources and go for the cheapest that guarantee highest quality.

I met the man on Jiji, thinking he's just the regular supplier, but he invited me to his Showroom/Factory in Mushin.

I went there last Thursday during the Holiday and saw that he's one of the major dealers in Lagos. He sells and also has staff that would do installation.

I called him and told him I'll share his contact with the three of you.

He's a known person and popular in that Olorunsogo Mushin side.

As I said, I like to do aroro And price so te you go pity me.

Please send PM and I'll forward his number to your email.

As I said, I saw his advert on Jiji, called him and he was glad to invite us to his Showroom to see and select what we want

Following up from your good points made, which id the Dangote product is made specifically for plastering?

spyder880:


Cement brand competition is very fierce, with Dangote, Unicem, BUA, Elephant super set and others having different market shares in many parts of the country. The east has been witnessing a lot of development of recent and many people are starting to trust two brands of cement above others, Elephant super set and BUA keep getting positive reviews since 2018, and they are usually more costly by about N100. Dangote has penetrated a lot of markets and have more depots in more locations so they enjoy a lot of patronage too.

The little confusion about Dangote cements are the company's grading of their cement products into the 32.5R, 42.5R, The block master, the Falcon etc. Its stated that some are made for light work like block setting or plastering, while some of the company's products are made for heavier works like concrete cast for important points. But the masses just go to the market and buy what is available, or cheaper without verifying what each of the product classes are made for.

is there anyone that can provide this as a service?

I need to do same.

Please reach out.

Thanks.

Is the vendor here or external? If here, pls @ the handle or give me their contact.

Much appreciated.

davodyguy:


Yes I did or I am about to

All internal doors would be wooden, skin door with thick layers and chrome

There are a total of 18 doors. Some with regular frames and others with be with HDF modern frames
Total bargain is around N360,000

For the exit, we have 8 doors, out of which one is 4ft and others regular 3ft.
I'll do 4 American panel and 4 'Nigerian welder' metal door for durability