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AirBere:
99% are single. Have money that's all

Nnamdipapa:
Nonsense post!

I have seen adults with very little common sense who don't know their left from rights and I have seen brilliant teenagers as well. The tendency to always class people based on age is absolutely laughable.

Elders and adults have been running Nigeria aground since independence. What is the outcome? How do we know what's on their minds without engaging with them? The purpose of an argument is to establish truth and has nothing to do with your age.

Afolue:
Men are scarce, so use your brain. They come for you and you don’t go for them. The ones that you will attract, has to do with you working on yourself. No get sense. If you don’t want to be a single mother

Afolue:
so you’re even a Babe. No wonder!You must check yourself before your prayers gets answered. From all indications, you may not find a guy that will suit your kinda preference. You act too confident. Obviously a guy couldn’t have said all these…
Be very careful with yourself, things can’t work way, arrogance and pride will worse it even.

Men are easy to handle. Follow all I have said it’s wisdom. Many won’t
tell you this. And am not charging you either

Afolue:
before? is anything about marriage fun in the first place?

Dtruthspeaker:
All explained in the thread
https://www.nairaland.com/8080384/polygamy-gods-punishment-fornication-deut#129757300

"And this is where God replied and made sure that the wives and children are enemies and that every soul in that house hates the wicked husband.

And because everyone is living in a house where they hate each other to death, then there is no peace and rest in that house and living in that house is helliish for every body in it

And that is why since the ancient days till the world ends, polygamy will always be very bad an evil because God punished it.

And it is a punishment for fornication and adultery

Afolue:
contradicting all I have said, you simply an activist for “Broken Homes”!

luminouz:
Please go away with your mindset abeg. If you think our culture is archaic, then don't marry or marry a simp. You lots are the ones looking for rich, handsome, six packs and all that jazz but he can't demand submission from you? A man will pay bride price and bridal list nonsense for damaged women and he still won't even get submission in his own home?

Nah why men dey make una babymama na

luminouz:
Bla blaaaaaaaaaa....don't collect bride price then

Afolue:
one shouldn’t see that as control. It make no sense for a man to control are woman in a senseless way. Now, what’s wrong when your wife wants to attend a party or an outing, then, you as the Husband is not in support, can’t he tell her not to go anywhere and she obeys?. Avoid analyzing point in a weak sense. A man is the head, after a woman leaving her father, her husband is the next. Even if she wants to go see her father, the husband has the right to tell her not to go and she must obey. With all cited examples, Is it not same as sit down !Am not saying any man must do that. But all husband’s power is up to that level over their wives. You shouldn’t boss your wife because you want her to know you are the boss. If she doesn’t know these, then she isn’t fit. Not responsible for a marital home. Weak men cheat themselves out of ignorance. A man must be responsible, yes. By all standards. So as to maintain his reputation for who he is!

Prettygirl200:
Exactly just as the right woman will give you the respect that you deserved, that's to tell you that respect or submission should be earned not forced.

Afolue:
being submissive is all that is required of a woman in a matrimonial home. Okrika get quality. For example every lady has her class of man that she will regard as masculine to her same as a guy. No man will marry who he can’t control or to say who can’t listen to him in regards as being the head factor in a home.

If your man can’t tell you to sit down and not to leave there, then you must check yourself before you become a wife. That alone passes a lot of messages to who you are.

Your ideology is with those kind of couples who share bills in the home equally. I agree. It’s understandable. But mind you, there will always be problems. A man must take care of his responsibilities to a large extent. He should marry a woman of his class and contented

verminnel:
Who you marry is more important than when you marry , as who you marry can determine your life's progression or retrogression.

luminouz:
Shût dafuq up!!!

You know damn well he meant a submissive wife but as usual your inadequate comprehension skills and zigzag emotional spectrum made you see red instead of yellow.

Are you married? No! Did you ever pay bride price? No! So how in hell do you have the guts to tell a grown ass man not to look for a submissive woman!

liab:
don say guy I'm not your mate please

GeneralPula:
From this chat, seems you guys are negotiating for a short time..

How can you pay 20k for short time? Highest to pay for a night with scope is 15k - Bj or no Bj, how much more short time..

But shaa, from the way you’re chatting with the girl, seems you’re still new to dealing with HK girls. You can see the girl is even telling you’re talking too much! You should learn with time sha..

Olokobintin:
A virgin? Who still care about that in this generation. Me that I don't care if the woman that I will marry today kpansh another man a day before our marriage.

You people still hold onto some unimportant things. Why are men so scared about women having fun? Why are you so worried about another person thing? If she choose to give you when it is sealed, fine. But if she choose to give you when it is loose, then it is fine again.

If you choose to love her body, brain and fine face, then love what she present to you in between her legs.

We have heard of stories of armed robbers that become pastors and prostitutes that become deaconess. If these people can changed to better people, so why can't a woman that just had fun in her younger years to become a good wife.

Bro, stop worrying.

Magnificenttop:
Women are God's gifts and real men defend them, the only issue is where are real women.
If you're one of the good women, speak for yourself alone, you cannot speak for all.
No one describing women as s-object but the way many women intentionally chose to portray themselves.
Moreover the reply was in response to the person who was blaming writers of the Bible for the place of women in our world.
Whose fault is many women are on tiktok twerking while men are busy inventing?
Whose fault is majority of leaders worldwide are men? Whose fault is this forum is being owned by a man and not a woman? Should we blame John the Baptist for that?
It's just reality naturally dishing out to all according to what is deserved or else some people who chose to be dissatisfied with their natural position/role based on their gender.

Magnificenttop:
Redpile? I don't even know what that means.
I, already made peace with both pros and cons of being male but feminism, appears to be a cope-mechanism exhibited during lamentation by those confused and frustrated at why they can't eat their cake and still have it.
As for your uploaded jpg, I think your fellow confused klowns need it more - those who daily rely on men, who intentionally wear skimpy skirts but forcefully pull it down while being angry at why it's so short, those who portray themselves as s-objects but angry when seen as such. What difference would that make though, when you the uploader itself lives in a house made by men, using a gadget by men, on a forum owned by a man, still confused and ranting why things are what they are.
Keep your cope-mechanisms handy because nothing is gon change.

Wallade:
Not interested, this is problem personified.

Wallade:
Madam, if you are married, you have an option not to submit to your husband. That is your wish and it is your marriage, the energy that you give is what you get.

If you are not married, don't submit to your fiance or man. He has the option to evaluate the future with you and decide whether to marry you or look elsewhere.

Your kind of feminism is ultimately your choice, I and many of us here don't have to live with your feminist ideology.

Prettygirl200:
it is.

Prettygirl200:
A lot of Nigerian men don't know what feminism is all about they think feminism teaches women to hate men like their redpill do. No it's doesn't it's far from it. They all need to educate themselves.

Prettygirl200:
Even the bible you keep talking about was set up by men in other to enslave people and sudue women, bc all it talked about is women beneath men hence the bible is a patriarchy weapon against women.

GreatAchiever1:
You have deviated from the topic of discussion to enter talk on FirstBorn. SMH.
Well, at least I have passed my message across. With this mindset of yours, no Christian man that knows his bible to some certain good extent will ever accommodate these false feminist ideologies which has no place in true biblical Christianity.

GreatAchiever1:
The first man, Adam, was created before his wife, Eve. Adam was tasked with working and keeping the garden, while Eve was created as his helper (Genesis 2:15, 18). Humanity was named after Adam, not Eve (Genesis 5:1-2). Although Eve sinned first and gave Adam the fruit, God addressed Adam first, asking, “Where are you?” (The word “you” in Hebrew is singular) (Genesis 3:9). Adam had authority over his wife, and as such, God held him accountable for her sin. Moreover, Adam was held accountable for the sin of the entire human race.

The Hebrew word ezer does not mean “strength”; it means “helper.” To change its meaning to fit an ideology distorts the biblical text. A woman is not the strength of a man, though she is the crown of her husband (and I would say creation, more reason why she is vulnerable to being deceived, as most women already are under the guise of feminist philosophy and why it's a man's duty to protect and lead his wife). Women are undoubtedly special, but as helpers, their role is to support their husbands. Misrepresenting biblical teaching to fit a modern ideology demonstrates rebellion against God’s Word, aligning with feminist narratives. A Christian woman should stand alongside her husband as his helper, as ordained by Scripture.

Regarding culture, our current culture, including many churches, has been deeply feminized. Many churches now have ordained women pastors and women elders, delegating the masculine, authoritative task of preaching and teaching God’s Word to women. Consequently, men have become weak and passive, while women have become loud and contentious, rather than sweet, quiet, and gentle. Historically, biblical culture and even society up to like late 1800s or early 1900s was patriarchal. Men led in the home, church, and government. During that time, issues like divorce, crime, depression, and promiscuity were far less prevalent than they are today. The rise of these issues correlates with the erosion of traditional roles. There is no equality in roles and responsibilities between men and women; the relationship is hierarchical. Where equality in roles exists, it results in disorder, dysfunction, and ultimately destruction.

Now, let’s examine Genesis 3:16.

There are three interpretations of God’s pronouncement in Genesis 3:16:

1. Reaffirmation of the Creational Hierarchy:
This view sees Genesis 3:16 as reinforcing the marital hierarchy as a blessing. The wife’s desire for her husband is interpreted as devotion, and the husband’s rule over her is seen as positive leadership. This aligns with the preceding clause about childbirth (“I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing”). Despite the pain, the woman remains devoted to her husband and has children with him. However, this interpretation struggles with the context of judgment in Genesis 3:16, as it’s unclear why the man’s rule is mentioned positively when the passage deals with judgment. One explanation is that the woman’s transgression (Genesis 3:1-6) led to a “redirection” of her role, calling her back to her creation-ordained subordination to man.


2. Perversion of the Creational Hierarchy:
This view sees Genesis 3:16 as describing the distortion of roles due to sin. There are two possibilities:

Both the wife’s desire to usurp her husband’s authority and the husband’s abusive rule are viewed negatively.

The wife’s devotion to her husband is positive, but the husband’s rule becomes abusive.


This interpretation is historically popular. John Calvin, for instance, described the wife’s subjection as previously liberal and gentle but now distorted into servitude. The ESV bible translation supports this view: “Your desire shall be contrary to your husband, but he shall rule over you.” The NET Bible goes further: “You will want to control your husband, but he will dominate you.”


3. Wife’s Negative Actions, Husband’s Positive Rule:
This view interprets the wife’s desire as an attempt to usurp her husband’s authority, while the husband’s rule is a godly exercise of leadership to counteract this rebellion. This interpretation leans heavily on the parallel in Genesis 4:7 and is considered a more modern perspective and was the first interpretation I came accustomed to when I first learnt what Genesis 3:16 means.



Ultimately, the interpretation of Genesis 3:16 does not significantly alter the understanding of marital hierarchy and gender roles, as the creation account already establishes hierarchy before the fall. Regardless of the view adopted, it remains clear that God placed the husband in authority over his wife and that sin introduced corruption into this relationship.
However, egalitarians and feminists reject this creational hierarchy and attempt to root male headship solely in the fall. They often emphasize a version of View 2 that portrays the husband’s rule as introduced by God’s judgment on Eve. This perspective reflects a broader agenda to challenge traditional, biblically ordained gender roles and which ought not to be so.

(Inspired by Masculine Christianity).

GreatAchiever1:
You are really trying hard to bring up text that doesn't answer the question that I asked, how does one flesh correlate with what I just asked. But let me refute this and clearly explains how the one flesh relationship between the husband and the wife ought to be. The bible clearly defines how the relationship of the one flesh ought to be in Ephesians 5:22-33; Colossians 3:18,19; 1 Peter 3:1-7.



God named Adam, would you say it was a recognition of their mutual dependence? parents named their children, would you say it's a recognition of their dependence? humans name their pet animals (Adam did likewise also) would you say it's a recognition of their mutual dependence?



Mutual Respect and love for one another is essential in marital relationship and that tone on how to go about it according to the specific gender in the relationship has been set by Him who creates the marital institution. It's hierarchical and not equal balance of shared authority but the Husband having full and total authority over his wife as well as the household.