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Anywhere in Nigeria that talks politics and does not mention Tinubu is not relevant politically.

Jagaban, I go be like you o!

Frankdoz29:
Moment a biafran child was shot dead by invading forces. This picture depicts the darkest moment in our struggle to liberate Biafra. According to International Catholic Aid (ICA), an estimated 1.5 million biafran women and children died between 1960-1970. #We can never forget #Asaba massacre #horoes day #sit-at-home #may30th.

Frankdoz29:
anyone you like, the fact remains the little girl was murdered by evil Nigerian soldiers.

The child was not shot, the child was not murdered. The child was a victim of a tragic war.

Frankdoz29:
Nigerian soldier mainly targeted civilians. They bomb churches, schools, hospital and markets. It's more of a genocide than war.

So was that a victim of bombing or a target of a soldier pointing gun barrell?

capitalzero:
They will never understand. You do not impose all sorts of taxes -traditional, local ,state and federal - and you expect economy to grow. higher interest rates and ridiculous taxes are bane of economic problems.

If interest rate is too high, dont go into debt. There are many ways to source funds without taking loan.

If taxes are indiscriminate make a statement that will impact the LG and force them to get sense. Relocate to a place with tax incentives.

capitalzero:
you still could not understand. Ooni is chairman of council of obas in osun state. does ooni or his iyaloja has power over any markets or iyaloja in ilesa or iragbiji or obamoro or iwo.not possible. do we have associations of markets or iyalojas in osun state? yes. do chairperson of that association has power to control markets or install iyaloja in markets outside her domain? answer no. granted, tinubu is head of association of iyalojas in lagos but she does not have traditional powers over all markets or authority to install iyaloja for any market. it is only oba ikeja i.e olu of ikeja that has such powers over c any markets in lagos. all yorubas are not fool to follow tinubu and his family stupidly. can u please answer me, who is iyaloja of shoprite which is also located in ikeja? you cannot hate racism and be promoting tribalism for whatever reasons. that is mother fucking hypocrisy in falz voice?

No, you do not understand the evolution of Lagos into a mega business zone. Lagos has the highest IGR, in fact in another 20yrs or less Nigeria will earn less than Lagos. All that money comes from commerce. The Oja institution has evolved with the prosperity and become a single huge economic domain. Iyaloja is the organizing head of all Ojas in that single domain, regardless of location and whoever is a trader in that market.

The issue here is not even domain. The problem is outlined in the opening post. Im not sure you read that opening post, if you did you failed to understand its purpose. Please read the opening post thoroughly and acquaint yourself with the issue.

oforjide:
prostitution and indecent dressing are crimes in sharia law.

Does sharia prescribe ra.pe as punishment for a woman caught prostituting?

Frankdoz29:
Moment a biafran child was shot dead by invading forces. This picture depicts the darkest moment in our struggle to liberate Biafra. According to International Catholic Aid (ICA), an estimated 1.5 million biafran women and children died between 1960-1970. #We can never forget #Asaba massacre #horoes day #sit-at-home #may30th.

How come a child is shot but the adult is spared? Were you using innocent children as bullet shield?

Frankdoz29:
One Nigeria can never be possible. How can I teach my children to love the people and country that killed their people?

Your leaders have the power to take you out of Nigeria. Instead they are further puahing you deep into Nigeria by sending you to migrate out of your homeland. How is your struggle going to succeed when you fight from Lagos, Akure, Kano, Abuja, Maiduguri, Jos, Kaduna and everywhere else? Your energy is scattered and your mission is scattered as well. Your mission and energy to stand together as one is dissipated. Your leaders are secured in one nigeria, and so must you.

Yujin:
I don't want to appear like a fulani advocate but your insincerity is making me appear so. How come a centre of such in those days will have no ruler over her? I don't think so. You carefully avoided the mentioning of Afonja despite his notorious story. Alimi was similar to Fodio in that he was a clergy in an area under the control of another but he eventually usurped the throne. Don't rewrite history. One of the places the British encountered a commendable military organization during the military conquest of Nigeria was in Illorin and they were under a fulani emir. It's on record. The British had to use a better tactic to subdue the charging cavalry of Ilorin which was hitherto destined for Oshogbo after their first attempt failed. Don't come here to change history. The emir at Ilorin pointed to Sokoto as his superior that's why the British kept is so.
I agree with you that the only two ways to get it back is either through conquest (Which I think isn't feasible) or political concession(most likely but for a more better deal). Lol

The topic of the thread is not about Ilorin or about Afonja. Its about Lokoja. When I post on threads i bear in mind that my digression outside main topic must be kept at minimum and is why i was that brief. Open a Ilorin topic so i can school you on the politics, why there was no Oba in Ilorin but there was Oba in Jebba, why Alimi was not an Emir but a cleric and so om and so forth....

lilwetdick:
feminists and support of evil. what they forgot to tell us that a stripe club was raided and stripe clubs is illegal in Nigeria

so a strip club was raided by the police then feminists came out to protest

we shouldn't forget that those clubs exploit women and make them mere sexual objects

confuse people

Look at the placard posted by mandynews directly below yours. Police have right to arrest illegality but they violated law and turned the women to victims of their sexual appetite. If this is not treated police could soon come into any community bring girls and women out and start violating them in name of making arrest, even where crime is not involved.

Lets becareful.

Eberejesus111:
Sincerely speaking I don't see the essence of this Brou haha. The oonis only motive is to bring peace, perhaps he had a vision of something terrible happening if these two tribes do not become one.
Look at it from his side, he knows his office and knows how sacred it is. People are judging him because of his youthfulness but that's beyond that. It's only an old person that can gather up such courage to say such words on the throne, based on how the Yoruba's take old age and sacredness of the throne.
Ooni wants change and he wants peace. Igbos didn't complain about what he did because they know what he is trying to do, make unity. But Yoruba are seeing it in another point of view that even the Ones abroad are complaining about it, it's totally I don't know what to say.

In essence, what I'm trying to say is this. Perhaps he asked Almighty God to give him directions to the throne, because every king wants to become great and beat the test of time. And God gave him the answer, what Ooni have done would bear fruits much later as far he has the backing of God and his virtuous wife. God bless you

There are many way to make peace but trading your superiority over others to level the balance is not advisable. Besides, it is not his job to make peace between Yoruba and other ethnic groups....thats Alaafin's role.

capitalzero:
is lagos a local govt? is ikeja part of lagos island? is folashade ojo-tinubu iyaloja of lagos island or lagos state?
are Lebaneses an indigenous people in Nigeria?
which is supreme constitution or yoruba tradition?
you see my friend. I am a core yoruba man but I hate injustice and man-made culture that is not consistent with modern reality. can you tell me who is iyaloja of shoprite ? is shoprite not a market? in African history, traditional titles are created to collect royalties,levies or taxes from subjects in a domain being by a king or high chief. now in modern era, some still want to be collecting free money from traders through outdated traditions while still paying taxes and levies to government.
tinubu-ojo cannot control markets in all parts of lagos just as iyaloja of ife cannot control markets in ede or osogbo.
which state are you from?

Lagos State as a whole is a business district....an economic and commercial zone. It has an Administrative and it has a Market Institution. The Market is whole and underneath you have sub-markets. Akiolu's domain is Lagos Island but Administratively he is the head of Oba in Council in Lagos. Similarly each LG has its markets but Tinubu is head of all Iyalojas in Lagos. What part of that is hard for you to comprehend?

Lagos Markets is not about being Nigerian, it is about being Yoruba because it is culture. Moreover, if you read and understood the part of 1999 Constituion quoted in beginning of thread....Market is the prerogative of local authority and it is not covered under constituion or citizenship.

You call yourself Yoruba but I question your background as a Yoruba man. You do not have rooted knowledge of urbanism and social institutions in Yoruba culture. Your pretensions on this discussion already exposed you.

capitalzero:
dumb post. oba or Baale of a domain install babaloja or iyaloja of markets only in his domain. it is only olu of ikeja that has right to install iyaloja in computer village. beside, domain of oba akinolu is eko not all parts of lagos state. therefore, oba akinolu or his iyaloja cannot install iyaloja in any parts of lagos that are not their domains. madam, there is nothing like iyaloja of lagos state or iyaloja of nigeria in yoruba norms and traditions. in lagos, tinubu family is above the law and people are seeing it as normal.
well, God dey.

Tinubu is only there because she was invited to intervene. Iyaloja and Babaloja now report to LG Chairmen but they sit in Oba Council. You cannot bring all the Iyalojas to sit in council therefore there is Head-Iyaloja (Tinubu) that goes to council, but individual markets are presided over by respective appointees from the LG that oversees the market. So it works different than the way you outlined.

Also, markets in Lagos have always been very important. Next to the King, market is the next ranked priority. In fact, market in Yorubaland is more than a stall to sell and buy, it is an institution! It is a landmark also! The Lebanese (who Yoruba call Korea) have been in trade in Lagos far longer than Ibos. Ereko, Martins, Balogun, Idumota, Tinubu, Bristol, and so on....they dominated these parts. Till today their investments and properties still thrive in Lagos and they have never questioned or complain about Iyaloja that oversee their markets. So who is Ibo in Lagos?

Markets are so crucial as the backbone of Lagos that after Kosoko returned from exile in Epe the Governor built him a Palace and Oba Akintoye conferred on him Oloja of Ereko....which expanded to become Oloja of Lagos. The original Lagos port was where BRT buses stop now at Marina and used to be call Quay side. Customs clearing was done there before they relocated across the Lagoon to Apapa. There is a street adjacent to it and called Market Street. Im not sure if you are aware, the colonials saw Lagos Ports back in 1860s and early 1900s the way we see Lagos Ports today.....IGR cash cow! So Oja and politics go hand in hand in Lagos, before oyinbo came, while they were here and now that we rule it. You cannot separate market and politics in Lagos, and the politics of Lagos must remain intact in Yoruba hand. We will not share our administrative politics and we will not share our market politics.

The Lebanaese have been here hundreds of years and never complained about Iyaloja. Obalende and Idi Araba have markets and their heads are Yorubas. The Hausas dont complain. Ibo must comply with directives from Iyaloja and bring itself under regulation or we will vacate your shops and reallocate them. We are tired of you snubbing your noses at our culture and forming parallel organizations anywhere Yoruba is head. We will deal with you and there is nothing anyone anywhere in the world can do to save you. It will be too late if we take action against you...a severe action!

chriskosherbal:
Don't think this thing is dying down anytime soon.

It should not die down until resolved.

I dont see any wrong doing on Iyaloja's part.

teufelein:
info...

....pick a gun and fight tinubus, start a bloody revolution right there in lagos, burn lagos down, yes you can.
man dies but once and death brings absolute instant calmness. stop complaining, my people.

If Eleko tell you to go into the Lagoon now you will say he hates you. See wetin you write asking people to do. Haba!

Yujin:
You know already. Inasmuch as I'll like it to be part of Western Nigeria, I don't see its feasibility. Before colonial interruption, she was already under the caliphate. That was Afonja's fault not mine. Only the indigenes of Illorin can say otherwise and if anything I saw from the few I've met matters, I don't think they're looking westwards.

Nigeria practixes British civil law. Were the people and land we call Nigeria today British? No!

Caliphate in Nigeria started around 1807. Ilorin had existed as a center of Islamic learning long before that. Alimi became the cleric of Ilorin (not Emir) around 1827. Ilorin remained in Yoruba hands until around 1900 when British put it under Northern Protectorate. Ilorin never had an Oba. Automatically the Fulani muslim cleric assumed Emirship after joining the protectorate. The land, the culture, the religion, the language are all Yoruba. It would have to be reclaimed through conquest or through political concession. No other way but it's reclamation is possible.

vonxe:
Yeah the bassa are seen as hausas.

How can Bassa be Hausa? Im not sure you know who Hausas are.

waali:
Your research is faulty to me. Federal University Lokoja have had only one past VC and the man is from Katsina. The current is from Plateau. Can you name other places aside Felele? Kabawa, Adankolo, Ganaja, Zangon Daji, Lokongoma and the Lokoja itself are not Yoruba names. Mount Pati is coined from the Bassange. The rivers don't sound Yoruba.

Except if I missed something, The Bassange were the settlers the white met.

Talking about the Fulokoja profs. It is expected. They are the most schooled. I still doubt your statistics about the general staffing sha.

Don't do research on FB, do research on Google or better still come over to Lokoja and see for yourself.

White is not the reference for nativity and indigenity of Lokoja. The whites came only in late 1800s. Before jihad of early 1800s there was no Fulani or Hausa camps in Lokoja. So explain to us how they got there. With time the camps became quarters.

MONIKERREVEALER:
if you know you are a real man, swear an oath right now that the declaration you made at the bolded portion of your bullcrap post can only be contravened over your dead body!!!

anyways, you are damned if swear this oath and still damned if you don't swear this oath!!!

the international interventionist invaders are soon coming to the shiithole to tear zoogeria to pieces and we, the great easterners, are SOO gone from the shiithole ASAP, AMEN!!!

Atone for your misdeeds and be free. There is no international interveionist anywhere to free you, Kanu is flying to different countries and renting a small conference room to boost his myths on tv. His next trip will take him to Russia or China....he is trying to get their visa. Any nation seeking freddom goes to UN. Tell Kanu to go into UN session with his crusade if he is serious.

Unlimitk:
Mtcheew
All these dumb conspiracy theories

Its not conspiracy, he just failed to interprete it correctly. He has some hints on the relationship between red and blue but he is not an initiate, and so until he becomes one he cannot unveil the mystery.

This is how Ibo play politics -

1. make a long list of enemies
2- make a long list of betrayals
3. lament to UN about his enemies and lament to Nigerians about his betrayers.

They have zero political value beyond these three.

Excaperx:
you know Nigeria isn't one(homogeneous), if an ethic group decides to leave this scam of a country, don't they have the right to self determination?

No they dont! Everybody else was working on creating a gap that would make exit easy for any part that wanted it. Ibo turned it upside down and used gun and bullet to overthrow the government so they can glue Nigeria together permanently. Now they are crying for it to be unglued. The blood and spirit of the innocent people they massacred on Jan 15th 1966 has not forgiven them, and the blood and spirit of millions massacred in the followup has also not forgotten them. Until Ibo atone for Jan 1966 they are going no where.

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NNEWIsuper:
there is a general belief in South eastern Nigeria that General yakubu Gowon is an Igbo man from the Ezza clan in present day Ebonyi state...

Rumours have it that his father lived in plateau and gave birth to him there, his father died and his step father a plateau man had to raise him up...he has even been shown his father's house in Ebonyi after the war..

the question now is , did Gowon knows he was Igbo before the war and if he knew, why did he fight his own people??

Even Ike Nwachukwu a man whose Ibo root is not clouded fought on Nigerian side. Arthur Nzeribe was an arms dealer for Nigerian Army during war. He supplied the guns and bullets Army used to wipe out biafran rebels.

This is an Afonja.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-4ZDYar2fM

Kaabiyesi O!
Ade a pe lori
Bata a pe lese
Ase a pe lenu Alaafin!

Atikulator Church of Anambra.

KidsNEXTdoor:
Afonjas leave Biafran threads and come over here...


E don happen for ogun


Cc Lzaa immhotep adaibeku yarimo sarrki

Didnt you see the report? Afonja stayed and fought, unlike Fulani attack in Enugu Ibos took to their heels.

Rest in Peace!

One of gallant soldiers that distracted Ibo coupists in Jan 66.

olril17:
we are one Nigerian until Nigeria cease to exist bro.

True talk bro! I dont know why Okorocha is not underatanding we are in ONE NIGERIA..