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Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by MetaPhysical: 4:26pm On Dec 03, 2018
rhektor,
I maintain my promise not to expound any more on Eshu but I did not rest, I took it as an assignment to explore and bring to you a generic lesson on the topic. I found one....a very good one indeed.

Go to this video brother. It is lengthy but be patient and learn through it. You donot have to accept what is said, but do not shut it out...let it awaken your mind to a new aspect of nature. Remember that what is taught here is generic and fitting for general public.


https://vimeo.com/255482328
Culture › Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by MetaPhysical: 2:41am On Dec 03, 2018
macof:
grin grin grin ok this is just clownish. Even i can clown but this is overboard to a high degree of dishonesty.

ObalufonIII and I, are known to represent everything authentic yoruba on this forum. I am yet to see a better moniker... this your 'eurocentric' allegation is not only ridiculously far-fetched but actually hypocritical, i mean how does a person who is so swayed by foreign beliefs to the extent of trying to reconcile his 'kafir' and 'pagan' yoruba ancestry to his foreign religion accusing people who are traditionally grounded on bashing traditional stuff grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin What traditional knowledge do you possess? what traditional activity do you perform?
imagine you compare your nonsense to the works of Duro Ladipo and Ogunde. Where on this forum have you mentioned yoruba strictly to portray yoruba in its glory without references to arabs or other semitic people as if to imply the yoruba cannot be relevant without them?

You are distorting everything yoruba and turning history, traditions and language up side down and still want to claim to stand for the very identity you want to supplant and replace with a semitic based one? of course you cant succeed but how many people will you mislead eventually? how many people who have a growing urge to reconnect to their Yoruba traditions due to not being knowledgeable will be deceived by your fake persona of standing for Yoruba?



You can never know the benefit of historians and linguists because you do not appreciate history or linguistics. you claim to have knowledge of yoruba origin based on language similarity of which you have listed several examples but absolutely none after years of looking for semitic words in yoruba language, are a result of any methodology
you said Aramean is Oranmiyan...how? what is the corrolation? do they have similar meanings, do they make up the same root words when broken down? no follow up, no re-testable method used to arrive at this conclusion because you lack the skills of a proper linguist...yet you sit somewhere trying to trash talk your betters

imagine someone who claims to be interested in origin of a people who asks whats the benefit of historians and linguists? grin grin grin

imagine 1 million people like this in yorubaland, the entire yoruba identity will be lost in no time...that is probably the aim anyway undecided
So we don't go into long essays on this misunderstanding. Please put this on your record so you can reference it in future recalls.


1 - I have always presented my contributions as "my personal conviction and truths", separate from the mainstream acceptance of research studies. Sometimes I would tread in areas I am yet to fully get clarity and in those cases I present "my theories".


2 - I do not bring my religion, faith, spiritualism and initiations into competition with others'. I don't know who is across from me and what they know or do not know. I do not compete on the level. I also keep my spirituality a personal business that no one needs to know but me and my God.
Culture › Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by MetaPhysical:
0balufonlll:
Evidently, you believe in the data contained in the Bible as true/facts. You first of all need to study the Historiography and the History of the Bible respectively then maybe you'll tweak your argument. Also, see the screen shots below on some of what early scholars said in regards to your standpoint. You may get some of the book cited (if you can/want), read them for further knowledge or to further develop your argument.
I read this book you screenshot here. Let me itemize my thoughts on this so it is organized for clarity.

Here are my theories...

1 - I have never seen any report, however remote in time, of any earth shifting force or plate movements anywhere in Yoruba region.

If you have any plese share, otherwise we should agree that the land itself and its topography is a constant for as far back into human history we can go.


2 - I have never heard of any devastating weather or climatic change that transformed the landscape and coasts of Yorubaland and its region.

If you have information to the contrary, share. The drying up of river or water body is a climatic change. Famine is a climatic change.


3 - The above two (tectonic movement and climatic change) are factors typically recorded for "involuntary" displacement and population wipeout or relocations in human, plant and animal history.

In their absence we can conclude that the ecology in Yorubaland and its region have been in balance a very very long time. Ecology is the cohabitation of humans, plants, animals, and involve subsistence on land, water and air.


4 - Unless we have carbon dating that can prove the above constants invalid, then we should agree that Yorubaland and its region has been peopled for millenias.


5 - Any displacements and population shifts on record can therefore be attributed to "voluntary" outcomes.

Like migration, war, commerce, and so on. We have records of these voluntary movements occurring in Yorubaland and its region.


6 - The voluntary actions of displacement should therefore be our baseline in studying the pattern of movement, the reshaping of ecology and the resultant outcomes they produced as it affects a transformative evolution in structures of power and identities.


7 - We should divide the epochs to a pre-Oduduwa X-land and post-Oduduwa Yorubaland.


I say X-land because Yoruba is the identity of Oduduwa.



8 - The people of X-land were the aborigines and existed as autonomous communities, spoke different languages, with no central power of state.

Their language is the Niger-Congo stock.



9 - Ile Ife was a city remnant of the Nok civilization and was located on the bank of the Niger.

The Ile Ife today is not the original.



10 - Oduduwa came to this side of the world to find abode amongst the Nok. His navigation path from Borno down to the Niger-Benue Confluence and into Nupe country and southward to Old Ife is suggestive of a search for the Nok people where he knew best to locate them. He met their ruins in the Niger-Benue valley but continued on to find their remnants....which he did in Old Ife. He did not further his journey past the Old Nok city.



11 - Obatala, Obalufon and the rest were state rulers of what was left of Nok society. The Nok civilization and its language is the de facto culture and lingua-franca of all indigenous people of Benue-Valley basin. The language distribution is what is now classified as Niger-Congo.

Late comers into the region, like the Yorubas, with a different language stock were mistaken as indigenous population and co-joined into the Niger-Congo.


12 - The Nok culture and rulership in Old Ife were displaced and substituted with a new world order imported with migrant Oduduwa from the Nile/Mesopotamian basin.


13 - The dispersions of Yoruba from North East outwardly should be corrected....that mapping represents the outflow of conquest and power after Old Ife was in the grip of Oduduwa and his camp fanned out into the autonomous communities in X-land and imposed statehood on them to form what we now call a total Yoruba Commonwealth.

14- The dispersion discussed in this book should be seen as deployments of crowns and its attendant new order, rather than the movement of people and population of virgin lands never before lived in as inferred by the author.
Culture › Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by MetaPhysical: 12:46am On Dec 03, 2018
OlaoChi:
Yet the aforementioned elements are never taken into consideration, made clear when the fraudster said his conclusions are not "consistent with logical learning" rather blind faith grin of course it is what else?

Or do tell what part of. The oral, written, artwork, spirituality, esoteric cults, religion, cuisine, language, priesthood, kingship, articles of statehood, philosophies like Omoluabi, proverbs and folklores, genetic and immune system, clothing and styling, war and weapons, and so on and so forth. of the Yoruba produce a single evidence of Hebrew origin?
Do Yoruba have oral histories of coming from Israel? Or are there any Yoruba cults that perform Hebrew rituals
Do Yoruba eat Hebrew food? Do Yoruba worship yahweh?
Is kingship in yorubaland formed after the kingship of Isreal?
Are there genetic haplogroups found in Semitic people dominant in yorubas?
Do Yoruba dress like Hebrews?
That's an attachment of falsehood on your part. Go back and read the paragraph and context, not the word. Beside, do you believe in God? Have you seen him? Can you get a degree in God knowledge? No one can....he and his realm are beyond the reach of academic scholarship, no matter how profound. The best we can do is have faith that He is true and exists. Those who are engaged in daily worship of that existence are called Priests...and that's what I referenced. Stop pushing falsehood to score points.
Culture › Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by MetaPhysical: 12:32am On Dec 03, 2018
want2knowben:
Thanks. My intentions are to share what I know or I am researching and that's why I didn't follow arguments I identified as blind. It is such a shame that many of our educated people limit their learning to what their 'Professors' say/found. This is why there is hardly any innovation coming out of Nigerian academic institutions. They have become places to learn what is obsolete in today's society. Scholarly academic works (home and abroad) keep showing there are links between the Yoruba and the Ancient Hebrews but only a Non-academic decided to go outside the boundaries, and he found the supposedly dead language of the Ancient Hebrews was still well alive spoken by the Yorubas.

Mama Sikira the Hairdresser and Biodun the Tailor keep inventing new hair and dress Styles every few months but we fail to teach and encourage genius and invention in our schools. Even the Slaves found time to invent 'technology'. Everyone young or old, educated or not has the ability and right to be able to think outside the box.
Those who should grab the ingenuity and multiply its effect are stuck in a rat race, competing and looking for new ways to outshine one another in Euro-centric customs and philosophies. If you want to see them in action, open a thread to analyze any of the Shakespeare's plays, and watch how they soon congregate and blow grammar and pat each other on back about the author. To them Mama Sikira is an illiterate, her rare and artistic stylings were not written about by Skakespeare and is unworthy of their time. Show Ogunde, Ladipo, Ogunmola performing a Yoruba play….our professors of history and language will question the use of rituals and misrepresentation of culture because it is divergent from European and so is backward. They will criticize Ladipo breathing fire to portray Sango and demean it as diabolical. Followup on that and show them Matrix and how Keanu Reeves bend the element to dodge bullets....show them Harry Potter and the Sorcerer....or even Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. Their excitement will know no bounds….

Harry Potter became an overnight success because the ingenuity of his plays has multiplying effects. Behind the scenes he is replaying what Yoruba has taken to stage as far back as 1950s and even earlier. Duro Ladipo took Oba Koso to Germany in 1964 and breathed fire on stage and they loved it, they did not criticize it. That success opened new doors for him to tour London, Paris, Switzerland, Brazil, America. Here at home our professors ridicule his value to society. Today, Yoruba has no library of arts or endowments dedicated to preservation of works by the likes of Ogunde, Ladipo and rest. We do not have the structure to reproduce and sustain their creativity. So why do we have Professors of History and Linguistics? grin Of what benefit are they to our society?

I must stress again, just share what you can. In fact I will admonish you not to share all...keep the most valuable of your findings and research work close to your breast and cherish them away from Nairaland, for interaction amongst higher intellectuals that can appreciate, maybe not necessarily agree....but they are awakened by it nonetheless.
Culture › Re: how a nairalander was celebrated that got people talking in ondo State by MetaPhysical: 11:55pm On Dec 02, 2018
Congratulations!
Oye ape lori o!
Crime › Re: We Now Anoint Our Pants Out Of Fear Of Yahoo Boys - Warri Girls by MetaPhysical: 10:22pm On Dec 02, 2018
@topic. grin grin grin

There is market now for panties oil. It wont be long before we start seeing ads in Nairaland about anointing oils for women's underwear.
Even pastors sef will put up billboard inviting young girls to come for special session of underwear anointing, but we know where that would lead.

Ahhhh, naija, I hail o ! grin
Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by MetaPhysical: 11:18am On Dec 02, 2018
Obalufon, please modify your post and delete that boy's nonsense. Thanks bro. grin
Culture › Re: Duro Ladipo's Documentary In Oba Koso by MetaPhysical(op): 10:18am On Dec 02, 2018
This the young girl he introduced as Abiodun, his wife.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQWPugACTzg
Culture › Duro Ladipo's Documentary In Oba Koso by MetaPhysical(op): 10:11am On Dec 02, 2018
Politics › A Tinubu Curveball For Atikulators by MetaPhysical(op): 9:05am On Dec 02, 2018
Something for Atikulators to talk and make noise about this morning so we can plot strategy for Feb in the background without distraction.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGp-CcKKfCM
Politics › Re: Biafra And Others. Igbo Elites And Their Compromise by MetaPhysical(op): 8:54am On Dec 02, 2018
Iceberg3:
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Joblessness and hungry
Absolute gabbage black black bla
grin
grin grin Gimme a job o
Politics › Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by MetaPhysical: 8:45am On Dec 02, 2018
drlateef:
Shioh! Fish brain. That was his plan, not anybody's plan. He ran back home for fear of being arrested even in the UK.
UK has extradition agreement with US. They will never arrest him for extradition normally. What would happen is FBI could sneak in and kidnap him. That's what they did to Manuel Noriega of Panama. They entered Panama and kidnapped the Head of State, took him back with them to Miami and locked up.
Politics › Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by MetaPhysical: 8:39am On Dec 02, 2018
lexy2014:
Y do u feel cheated by atiku? What crime did he commit and Y has this anti-corruption govt not been able to bring atiku to justice in Nigeria?
Atiku is not the only Head of Nigerian government that has cheated us. IBB, Abacha, Obasanjo, GEJ, Umaru Dikko, Dasuki, Diezani, and so on and so forth.... IBB tried twice to return and he was disgraced each time. If GEJ try to return to power he will be disgraced. Same goes for Obasanjo. If Dasuki or Diezani try to run for Presidency they will be disgraced. So I dont want you to feel personal about what I said in regard to Atiku. Atiku even disgraced himself ahead of the electorate disgracing him. Do you know Atiku's history? The guy is a scam.

In 2006 he left PDP because Umaru Yaradua got the nomination. He was bitter against Yaradua and their family. Back in 1992 however, it was Shehu Yardua, the elder brother, who opened Atiku's eyes to politics. In any case, he left PDP and joined AC to be its candidate. AC gave its ticket to Nuhu Ribadu. Then he wanted to go into a coalition with Buhari in ANPP but after their meeting he rescinded and started flirting with going back to PDP.

He did same thing in 2011, after returning to PDP. GEJ got the ticket. Atiku was bitterly upset that he refused to attend inauguration for GEJ. He formed another party called PDM. But in background he had gone back to Buhari to pick up the tatters from their coalition talks that he fled from in 2007. He returned back to PDP and GEJ that he had earlier abandoned. In 2013 Buhari and Tinubu formed APC. They both knew Atiku was not to be trusted after what they have observed in him as politically unstable. He led a rebellion in PDP and formed a nPDP that went to join APC hoping he would get ticket. As was the case in past, he came third behind Buhari and Kwankwaso. In 2017 Tinubu started talking about Buhari running second term. Atiku got the hint and fled back to PDP.

Is this the person we are to entrust with the politics of the largest black nation in the world? A greedy, politically unstable, hustler?
Politics › Re: Atiku: I Will Make Boko Baram Starve To Death by MetaPhysical: 8:12am On Dec 02, 2018
grin grin grin Atiku is a clown.

Charity begins at home. How has he starved them in Adamawa?
Politics › Biafra And Others. Igbo Elites And Their Compromise by MetaPhysical(op): 8:08am On Dec 02, 2018
Different Nations in the South South region are speaking out one by one against the supposed aggressive claims by Biafrans that the territorial domain now known as South South was indeed dispossessed wrongfully, and that they desire to reclaim and re-integrate it into an independent Biafra. Traditional Chiefs of Bini have spoken out. Scholars and Professionals have published articles against it. Senator of Urhobo nation has also spoken and warned against this trend. The people that truly ought to speak out are Igbo scholars, traditional chiefs, senators, professionals, scholars, businessmen, but unfortunately they are silent and allow their tribesmen to roam wild and create fears amongst their neighbours in the region. This is dangerous. This is almost the baseline that infuriated Northerners last year in their accusations that the elites of Igbo society are tacitly supporting Kanu and their silence is consent for the Biafran cause.

I encourage Igbo leaders and elites to meet review this emerging danger and imminent breakdown of trust betwween SE and its neighbours in SS. Their continued silence will feed the fire of suspicion and confirm whispers going round that the elites are not innocent of Kanu's atrocities and drive to obtain foreign assistance to tear SE away and take SS, forcefully, with it. Only Igbo elites can reinject trust and reassurance against the noise of Biafra and how those close to you feel with its insults. Risk management and mitigation is one of the pillars of leadership. There is a risk and intervention should step in and manage it.
Politics › Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by MetaPhysical: 7:39am On Dec 02, 2018
lexy2014:
Is travelling 2d US a requirement 4 being president of Nigeria?
No it is not, and never will be. America is like the police of the world when it comes to fighting crime. We feel cheated by Atiku. We are unable to bring him to justice but America also feel cheated by him. What we cannot do to exact justice, America will do. If he can go and return here we will have nothing else to hold against him. So in absence of any other way to release him from our accusations, he has a burden to prove he did not do us any wrong. That burden is satisfied by the challenge to go enter US, spend few days and return here before election. .
Politics › Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by MetaPhysical: 7:14am On Dec 02, 2018
misano:
Atiku is not D best in PDP. PDP might not get lots of votes from SS. The APC are going to use this thing to destroy him & I'm afraid will affect his popularity in D SS & SW SE.
Politics › Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by MetaPhysical: 7:07am On Dec 02, 2018
As I explained above, if US can arrest its own ex-President....what do they care about an ex-VP of Nigeria named Atiku? grin
Politics › Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by MetaPhysical: 7:06am On Dec 02, 2018
linearity:
You clearly does not know what you are talking about.

Visa just means permission to board an international vessel and travel to the port of entry, does not not guaranty admission/entry and does not guaranty that, you may not be arrested.

In fact the US embassy or the visa issuing agency, which is the State department cannot guaranty anyone from being arrested as they do not control that department. National, DOJ controls that...even the DOJ cannot guaranty anyone from being arrested, because any State in the US can arrest you....even if the DOJ and State guaranties you against arrest, any County or town or municipality can arrest you.

You can see the futility in asking the State Department to guaranty him anything. Only the President of the United State, Governors can be guaranty against arrest....The only time, you can be granted such immunity is if the Nigeria government issues him a diplomat passport.

That being said, am not in anyway stating that...he will be arrested. My point is simply that...No one in the US government can guaranty any traveler not holding a diplomatic passport a guaranty against arrest, because there are many agencies who have arresting powers in the US and many are not answerable to the Federal Government seated in Washington DC.

From the above, you can still why it is wrong to assume that, the mere issuing of a visa means one is cleared of all charges. State Department that issues visa and DOJ handles charges and arrest at the federal level.
You are correct, except one....even US Presidents can go to jail if tried and found in violation of law.
Here is how it works...A sitting President of US cannot be indicted by Courts but he/she can be impeached by Congress. The President have the liberty of course to grant himself a self pardon from the impeachment.

Here is how he can be arrested, just like you said....but only after he becomes ex-President

1 - Federal prosecutors (usually FBI, which is the law enforcement under DOJ) can bring charges against him/her in a Grand Jury and get indictment.

2 - the state that has jurisdiction in which the crime was committed can issue arrest warrant (if they want to humiliate him/her) and or be civil and simply bring a charge against the ex-President and have him docked for trial.
Politics › Re: Justice Chukwujieze Ogu Is Dead! Assassinated By Gunmen (Disturbing Photos) by MetaPhysical: 1:32am On Dec 02, 2018
May his soul rest in peace.
Politics › Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria As He Failed To Secure US Assurance Of NO ARREST by MetaPhysical: 1:30am On Dec 02, 2018
Sirjamo:
I have said it here before, Atiku cannot be foolish enough to walk into 30 years behind bars, he'd rather lose the election
Manual labor in construction sites and or in restaurants are usually paid under the table and cheap because it is sub-contracted staffing and the paper trail is usually not transparent. Occasionally when immigration wants to go after illegal immigrants in US, they will advertise construction jobs, knowing that many undocumented Mexicans will turn up for recruitment. From there it's straight to jail.

In same America, they will offer conditional plea bargain to a criminal in order to extract information they need to reel another criminal in. After they get both of them in, they will bait the first one to violate the conditions of his plea bargain. Its easy. They will make an undercover agent his cell mate and get confessions that contradict his earlier denials. That's it! His plea will be nullified and he will end up serving full time after successfully assisting them to nail the other conspirator.

Obasanjo sef better be careful. His hand was not clean either, unlike Atiku, he just happened to be smarter than the system. grin
Politics › Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria, No Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested by MetaPhysical: 1:07am On Dec 02, 2018
FarahAideed:
He never moved the money illegally , it was counterpart payment to his American university technical partners, problem was that it was at the height of 911 emotions and homeland security had stringent measure in place to track suspicious funds coming into the US and Atikus 40 million raised a red flag , even Dangote was taken in for question by FBI in Potomac at the same period but was cleared when he was found be Sugar and cement mogul .... stop your lies against Atiku
This is incorrect.

Atiku is just one of many people involved in money laundering at various points, involving banks and the American University. Other people involved are his wife, Jemila and Volpi - his partner in Intels. Jemila cannot enter US either. At the time of the offense she was a citizen. Im sure her citizenship is revoked by now. Citizens must enter US soil every so often, and also must file income tax and waivers for foreign earned incomes every year. Her naturalized citizenship would have been revoked by now considering she has not returned in over a decade. If she steps foot in US she will be arrested as well. Volpi paid restitution after he was tried and found guilty. Their case have no remote connection with events of 9/11.
Politics › Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria As He Failed To Secure US Assurance Of NO ARREST by MetaPhysical: 12:09am On Dec 02, 2018
Afamed:
iPod wants to send Atiku to journey of no return the way they sent Nnamdi Kanu to journey of no return
grin grin
Politics › Re: Atiku Returns To Nigeria As He Failed To Secure US Assurance Of NO ARREST by MetaPhysical: 11:53pm On Dec 01, 2018
deji17:
Atiku Quickly Returns To Nigeria After Failing To Secure US Department of Justice Assurances Of Entering US Without Being Arrested


A group, Initiative To Save Democracy has said that it has credible information that the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) in the 2019 presidential election, Atiku Abubakar has returned to Nigeria after failing to secure assurances from the US Department of Justice that he will not be arrested if he sets his foot into the soil of the United State.

TheCable had reported exclusively that the Waziri Adamawa secured a US visa and had travelled to the United Kingdom from where he will fly into the United state where he had not been able to step foot for more than 13 years.



But the group in a statement signed by its president, Akinloye James said Atiku had on Thursday travelled to the United Kingdom after securing a United States Visa from where he hopes to travel to the United State.

“His mission in the United Kingdom is to get the British Government to help him secure the assurances of the United States Department of Justice that he will not be arrested upon setting foot in US soil. But the British government is reported to have informed Abubakar that the US Department of Justice has made it clear that it cannot guarantee he will not be arrested.”

Atiku has refused to travel to the United States since the case of money laundering allegation involving him and a US congressman, Williams Jefferson came to limelight.



His counterpart in the United State, Williams Jefferson has already served jail term and made to refund part of the money traced to him for money laundering, but Atiku has since been walking free even though he has been unable to set foot in the US.

Having failed to secure the assurances of the British government and fearing that he may be arrested by the International Police (InterPol), Atiku quickly returned to Nigeria to forestall any possible arrest.

Paul Ibe, Head of the Atiku Media Office who has been speaking on behalf of the PDP presidential candidate prior to appointing a spokesman for his campaign tweeted a while ago that Atiku has since returned to Abuja.

“HE @atiku embarked on a private visit to the United Kingdom on Thursday shortly after the inauguration of his Presidential Campaign Council. He has since returned back to Abuja,” I’ve said in the tweet.



His tweet counters report by TheCable that Atiku will spend sometime in the United Kingdom before traveling to the United State.

“Report that Atiku obtained US Visa and travelled to the UK may be true, but the part that he would be traveling to the US is completely false,” Mr James said.

https://thejour.com/news/atiku-quickly-returns-to-nigeria-after-failing-to-secure-us-department-of-justice-assurances-of-entering-us-without-being-arrested/
That's because US Consulate service is not under the Justice Department. They work together but they are separate jurisdictions and prosecutorial power.

US Consulate is under State Department. This explains also why someone could get visa at the Consulate but be turned back at port of entry in complete disregard for the visa approval. Port of entry is controlled by US Immigration and Customs and are under Department of Homeland and Security. Atiku could travel with visa and if his profile flags the wrong color at port of entry they will detain him and send him to a DHS holding facility and then notify Justice that they have him. Justice will send Marshals to go get him and lock up pending his court appearance. Even if he is eventually cleared, the risk exist that he could first be incarcerated pending clarifications.

Atiku don buy one chance! grin Is he travelling with Jamila, or alone?
Culture › Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by MetaPhysical: 11:40pm On Dec 01, 2018
want2knowben,
Please post a link to Jejeola's work. I'd love to read what he has.
Thanks.
Culture › Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by MetaPhysical: 11:28pm On Dec 01, 2018
want2knowben:
You do realise that Modern Hebrew is a mishmash of Ancient Hebrew words mostly with 'guessed' vowels +Yiddish + loans from Arabic, Greek and other languages. The correct Ancient Hebrew words are straight up Yoruba words, and many others have their vowels and consonants incorrectly placed, which when you correctly place them yield Yoruba words.

Don't learn Ancient Hebrew (Ancient Yoruba) from the Yiddish speakers (Ashkenazi 'Jews' of European origin), their professors included! cool
You take any ancient Hebrew root word and vowelize it, it magically turns into Yoruba...right there in your face. The truth is self-bearing, it does not to be sold to people. We have gone through this exercise here many many many times. People are hardened to what was taught them, and are afraid of opening their conscience to fly beyond the limits of the mind. We must sympathize with them, not force or deny their fears. grin
Culture › Re: Who Are These Yorubas? by MetaPhysical: 11:18pm On Dec 01, 2018
want2knowben,
Thanks for your several input. Personally I believe research into Yoruba origin and past must be done via a multi-faceted approach. The oral, written, artwork, spirituality, esoteric cults, religion, cuisine, language, priesthood, kingship, articles of statehood, philosophies like Omoluabi, proverbs and folklores, genetic and immune system, clothing and styling, war and weapons, and so on and so forth....are interesting points that can be inspected. Some of them are outside the scope of what any empirical research or scholarship can discover. For instance if we submit our priesthood to academy to explain they will miss the target because the concept of offering, which is at the root of priesthood, is an esoteric knowledge derived through power of inspiration and contact with nature....it is consistent with faith but inconsistent with the process of logical learning in academy. Therefore, I should forewarn you that you will encounter a heavy push back here from academically planted pre-suppositions that many contributors are incapable of shedding. Do not lock down into a back and forth argument. Just share what you are inspired with and what you know. There are many of us here that have been enlightened through an alternate way of reviewing Yoruba origin, and we will support you. There are many ways, each to his/her own.

Keep up the good work! grin

I'm following you by the way.
Christianity Etc › Re: RCCG Lady Renounces Membership Because Of VP Osinbajo. See Reactions by MetaPhysical: 9:32pm On Dec 01, 2018
grin grin grin This thread topic is funny. Is she in Church for her own salvation or to belong in membership with VP?
Politics › Re: Confusion As PDP Presidential Campaign Council Gets Eight Spokespersons by MetaPhysical: 8:49am On Dec 01, 2018
odiks:
Everything about Saraki is always how to get juicy positions then share and loot.
grin grin PDP!
Politics › Re: Text Of The Inaugural Press Conference By Bukola Saraki, DG PDP Campaign Council by MetaPhysical: 8:46am On Dec 01, 2018
Lanre0:
0 × 0 = 0. loser × loser = losers Atiku × Saraki = looting losers
Saraki is not a good cheerleader, too stiff. I wonder how this campaign is going to look. You need cheerleaders to create excitement and pump people at campaigns. Dino would have been a better cheerleader at rallying people for the campaign than Saraki is. Anyway, Adeleke is there sha. Dino and Adeleke would do it for Atiku. Saraki should be the spokesperson. His role should be swapped with Dino's. grin

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