₦airaland Forum

Agboriotejoye:
When will NSCIA condemn killings by fulani herdsmen?
This shows that only one religion can bring peace to the world.

By condemning after killing?

bigcasava1:
We will continue to be cowards b4 the Muslims. Why can't we stand face it squarely. This people have done uncountable evil against christians nobody said anything but the moment christian reacts the stupid christians will be the first to call for their crucifixion.

How come we have so many sick Christians on Nairaland?

I am not understanding!

bigcasava1:
Fulanis herdsman killed my people in enugui to the extend they killed a pregnant woman and remove the baby in her womb cut the head of the innocent and I know you were happt about it, but my people did not retaliatethe against the Fulani because we choose not to be like them. But if any other tribes choose to retaliate I won't be against it. My anger is against my christian brothers who are cowards and sell out.

I suppose you are typing from the battle ground.
Lets see your pic and your war face, so we can sure you aren't a coward yourself.
Evil wisher!

This can only be Christianity!
Religion of everything and anything goes.

enilove:
Many people are describing themselves in many ways to deceive people.
Many idols have been described as true gods to deceive people in worshiping the Devil ignorantly.Some do perform magic to deceive people .

What I mean is that , it is not enough to accept the descriptions of Allah given in the Qur'an.
You need to check the evidences to ascertain whether Allah is what Muhammad said he is or what Allah calls himself.

The Bible warned us :

2 Corinthians 11:13-14 KJV
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. [14] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

My question still remains ; Is Allah the same God of the Bible ?

Good, You are concerned.
This is Allah on one hand:

[2:255] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"اَللّٰہُ لَاۤ اِلٰہَ اِلَّا ہُوَۚ اَلۡحَیُّ الۡقَیُّوۡمُ ۬ۚ لَا تَاۡخُذُہٗ سِنَۃٌ وَّ لَا نَوۡمٌ ؕ لَہٗ مَا فِی السَّمٰوٰتِ وَ مَا فِی الۡاَرۡضِ ؕ مَنۡ ذَا الَّذِیۡ یَشۡفَعُ عِنۡدَہٗۤ اِلَّا بِاِذۡنِہٖ ؕ یَعۡلَمُ مَا بَیۡنَ اَیۡدِیۡہِمۡ وَ مَا خَلۡفَہُمۡ ۚ وَ لَا یُحِیۡطُوۡنَ بِشَیۡءٍ مِّنۡ عِلۡمِہٖۤ اِلَّا بِمَا شَآءَ ۚ وَسِعَ کُرۡسِیُّہُ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَ الۡاَرۡضَ ۚ وَ لَا یَـُٔوۡدُہٗ حِفۡظُہُمَا ۚ وَ ہُوَ الۡعَلِیُّ الۡعَظِیۡمُ ﴿۲۵۵﴾

Allah! None is worthy of worship but He, the Ever-Living, the Self-Subsisting, the One Who sustains and protects (the entire universe with His strategy). He is seized by neither slumber nor sleep. Whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth belongs to Him alone. Who can dare intercede with Him except by His permission? (He) knows all that is (happening or has happened) before the Creation, and all that is (about to happen) after them; and they cannot encompass anything of His knowledge except that which He wills. His Throne (of Empire and Power and Authority) encompasses the heavens and the earth, and the protection of both (the earth and the heavens) does not pose Him any difficulty. And He alone is Most High, Most Great.

Who is the god of the bible?

enilove:
It is Divine to be a trinitarian but it satanic to be a solitudinarian like you Muslims.
For you Muslims , no one is disputing it that Allah ist your god , but the Jews and we Christians know that Allah is not our God .
What should give you more concern is that this Allah claims to be the God of the Bible . Is this true ?

Allah has described himself to us severally in the Qur'an.
It is you who doesn't believe in Allah that should be concerned.

enilove:
Arabic Bibles were compiled by Arabs who were not spiritually knowledgeable and unqualified to do the task.
Meaning whatever name they might have given to God in their Arabic Bible isi as a result of their ignorance .

The name of the God of the Bible is not ''Allah'' which the Arabs included in their own translated Bible.

Just take your time and go over what the OP has been posting on this thread , it would do you eternal good .

LNGKMD!
Wetin concern me if in the whole Arab world till date dem no get one qualified Trinitarian scholar to translate their bible to Arabic.
Yet you dey here dey translate Our Qur'an when your bible was compiled by ignoramuses.
The Arab Christians need your scholarship more than on NL.

Or How difficult is it for you to say the Arab bible was compiled by Arab Muslims?

This una arrogance of knowing too much of other people's religion na im go finally consume una.

Allah is my God! I don't give a damn what Trinitarians God is or called.

sagenaija:
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The Jews NEVER said: ‘‘Uzayr (Ezra) is the son of Allah,’ and the Christians NEVER said: ‘The Messiah is the son of Allah.’

The Bible is there to show all that the Jews and the Christians believe.

Thank you.

Is this all you could make from the verses, Ya Sheikh?
Poor job from a big scholar!

Anyway, Can you pls. help me with the name of God from an Arabic bible?

sagenaija:
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Even with clear evidence Moslems can't see the discrepancies and falsehoods in the Koran.

You run away from answering questions but want us to just swallow all that you present.

Thank you for letting us see that it takes the miracle of Islamic REINTERPRETATION to make us understand that "the oft-repeated verse AND the Koran" actually means "the oft-repeated verse IN the Koran".The Koran which claims to be clear actually needs Mohamed to make several portions clear. It has to take the Hadiths compiled several years after Mohamed to clarify things. Thank you for this.

Let us note these:
The usual claim of "Say!" does not precede the verse in question.
It takes the Hadiths 90% of which were written by those who LIVED hundreds of miles away from where Mohamed was supposed to have had his ministry and who lived several decades after Mohamed to explain the Koran. Were these not attempts to clear up a book that claimed to be CLEAR but is actually more obscure than open?
It is obvious from the way the Koran is written that it is not the writing of one person. Some areas areas are clear but you have others that are just simply disjointed and foggy. It looks like a copy and paste material that now requires Hadiths and other materials to reconcile and explain it.

Given the tens of THOUSANDS of Hadiths it would mean that those who recounted them did nothing else except observe Mohamed day by day, hour by hour and minute by minute. That is the only way they could talk about his going to the toilet, to stains in his clothes after sex, to other irrelevant issues that bear no connection with what the moslem's life should be.

If those who wrote the Hadiths were inspired by Allah then Islam had other MESSENGERS apart from Mohamed. After all, without their sayings and writings most part of the Koran will be mystery and many practices in Islam wouldn't be there today.

Do you agree that these men, who wrote what in many instances are the only things we can use to understand the Koran, were INSPIRED by Allah?

Ya Sheikh.
As one of the biggest unislamic scholar on this forum.
Pls. Kindly, help me with the meaning of these verses from the Qur'an:

[9:30] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة
"وَ قَالَتِ الۡیَہُوۡدُ عُزَیۡرُۨ ابۡنُ اللّٰہِ وَ قَالَتِ النَّصٰرَی الۡمَسِیۡحُ ابۡنُ اللّٰہِ ؕ ذٰلِکَ قَوۡلُہُمۡ بِاَفۡوَاہِہِمۡ ۚ یُضَاہِـُٔوۡنَ قَوۡلَ الَّذِیۡنَ کَفَرُوۡا مِنۡ قَبۡلُ ؕ قٰتَلَہُمُ اللّٰہُ ۚ۫ اَنّٰی یُؤۡفَکُوۡنَ ﴿۳۰﴾

And the Jews said: ‘‘Uzayr (Ezra) is the son of Allah,’ and the Christians said: ‘The Messiah is the son of Allah.’ These are their (absurd) utterances that they voice with their mouths. They (acquire) resemblance with the saying of those who have disbelieved before (them). May Allah ruin them! Where are they wandering distracted?

[9:31] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة
"اِتَّخَذُوۡۤا اَحۡبَارَہُمۡ وَ رُہۡبَانَہُمۡ اَرۡبَابًا مِّنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰہِ وَ الۡمَسِیۡحَ ابۡنَ مَرۡیَمَ ۚ وَ مَاۤ اُمِرُوۡۤا اِلَّا لِیَعۡبُدُوۡۤا اِلٰـہًا وَّاحِدًا ۚ لَاۤ اِلٰہَ اِلَّا ہُوَ ؕ سُبۡحٰنَہٗ عَمَّا یُشۡرِکُوۡنَ ﴿۳۱﴾

They took their priests and monks for lords besides Allah and (also) the Messiah, the son of Maryam (Mary), whilst in truth they had not been given (any) command except to worship (only) the One God besides Whom there is no God. Holy is He, far above those that they associate with Him as partners.
from the Qur'an:

[9:32] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة
"یُرِیۡدُوۡنَ اَنۡ یُّطۡفِـُٔوۡا نُوۡرَ اللّٰہِ بِاَفۡوَاہِہِمۡ وَ یَاۡبَی اللّٰہُ اِلَّاۤ اَنۡ یُّتِمَّ نُوۡرَہٗ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡکٰفِرُوۡنَ ﴿۳۲﴾

They desire to extinguish the Light of Allah by blowing through their mouths. And Allah rejects (it) but (wills) to manifest His Light to its fullness, even though the disbelievers dislike (it).

[9:33] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة
"ہُوَ الَّذِیۡۤ اَرۡسَلَ رَسُوۡلَہٗ بِالۡہُدٰی وَ دِیۡنِ الۡحَقِّ لِیُظۡہِرَہٗ عَلَی الدِّیۡنِ کُلِّہٖ ۙ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡمُشۡرِکُوۡنَ ﴿۳۳﴾

Allah is He Who sent His Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) with guidance and the Din (Religion) of truth to make him (the Messenger) dominant over every (other exponent of) Din (Religion), though much to the dislike of the polytheists.

Thank you.

Alusiizizi:
Let me play it out for you since it fails to sink in.

Scenario 1: MNK came back on his own volition. Buhari accelerates his trial so that he can execute him quickly in misguided notion that the issue will go away, but in fact this will only fuel more protests, grow our numbers and resources. Result? Nigeria will BURN!!

Scenario 2: MNK, an English citizen was abducted by Nigerian forces from the UK, brought back to Nigeria and executed. Now they have the UK and Biafra to contend with. Result? Nigeria will BURN!!

Scenario 3: MNK is not executed but held indefinitely. Biafrans rally in increasing numbers for his release. IPOB grows in both numbers and resources. Result? Nigeria will BURN!!

So you see, those simpletons, cowards and traitors that you call leaders do not realize that they have either made a fatal mistake or have fallen into a trap. Result? Nigeria will BURN!!

Good riddance.

Nigeria will burn!

After Kanu is dead.

Perkins2018:
But you support Muslim terrorists and Fulani killers. Your terrorist god Allah will be defeated by the one true God almighty.

That one concern you.
Me, na the Christian Chief terrorist that has been caught na im concern me.

I expect your God Israeli to have started raining bombs on us by now.

Or they can't locate Nigeria from the air ne.

Still waiting...

Alhamdullilah Rabbi Alamin!

A Christian Chief terrorist is in our net.

Lets see what Christians and their Almighty Israeli God can do about it us, in Jesus name.

Idiots!

Waiting patiently.....

Emilokoiyawon:
You talking of the same book that tells you to slaughter infidels(aka Christians and other non-believers) . So if a Yoruba refuse to slaughter infidels then the Yoruba person is not a 'true' Muslim? Even if you have a fish brain, you should be able to understand that religious extremism is a societal cancer.

I have been following your comments on this thread. But at this point i think you should have a rethink on this fish brain thing.

How do you think someone can remain a Muslim without keeping to the tenents of Islam no matter how despicable you think those tenents are?

chrismastre5:
Christians think this a joke, not that CJN was not happy but to him, she is an infidel so does not have the teremity or right to use the name of Allah. Christians if you like useless yourself infront of Muslims, they will never see you as human beings

If you say so, so be it.

Your worst is to wail on NL.

Mikecold:
Islam has vowed this world would never progress or have peace

Bunch of cretins

I guessed rightly!

This thing was here.

Standing5:
After using these same religious dung to render their local leagues useless, they are seeking to make the EPL and other major European leagues useless too.

Your religion is suppose to be private affair. Fast at your own convenience. Pray at your own convenience. As a christian, I can decide against working in a brewery or consuming their product. It will be intrusive to seek to impose my own choices on those who chose to work with breweries or consume their products.

Is anyone stopping you from working with or consuming brewery?

Mikecold:
The only public achievement he has made from the position of senate president

A grown ass grand pa would be celebrating marriage again to another wife because of the love of sex


Religion of piss and sex really has issues

DOT in a CIRCLE

Jealousy and Hatred: A resentment towards someone for a perceived advantage or superiority they hold.

Na d thing wey dis thing dey do for NL.
It is a terminal disease.
No let am kill you!

Righteousness2:
Preparations in high places for the Mob system.
One world Religion
One world government
One world currency

Folks, we are the Generation that will see JESUS Christ.
The Rapture is on us!
The Signs of the times are hitting the roof.
JESUS Christ is the Only way to Eternal life
JESUS Christ is the Only way to be Saved.
There is no deputy/ Assistant Way!
There is no short cut
There is no other way!

Palestinians are still very much around.
They survived!

sagenaija:
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Delusion is real!

We're seeing here how people can brainwash themselves with a PROPh they've been fed with.

[b]Claim by Moslems:
All the words of the Koran are direct words of Allah
Enquiry by non-moslem:
So, when Allah speaking in Koran chapter 1 says - 'You alone do we worship...' and then
'Guide us in the straight path' who is Allah referring to?

Answer by Moslem:
According to our scholar 1 and scholar 2 and scholar 3 we are suppose to recite it. It has been given to us to recite.
Question by non-moslem:
Ok, you are supposed to recite it. But where did Allah say there that you are supposed to recite it?

Answer by Moslem:
So you don't understand how we are supposed to recite it. That is the beauty of our Din. It's the only true Din. Just look there you'll see it. If you don't it must be because Allah has misguided you.
Response by non-moslem:
Can't you just show me since you have been rightly guided?

Answer by Moslem:
Why not just accept whatever the believers in Allah say instead of arguing on what you have no knowledge. Don't you know that Islam means 'surrender' your brains and just accept whatever you are told? So, just take it, even if you don't understand.
Response by non-moslem:
But my question has been answered. Who is Allah referring to in that portion of the Koran?

Answer by Moslem:
You have been answered. Allah knows best.

Mtcheeeew.

I guessed you won't be pleased with my answer and i guessed rightly.
Continue...

Anyways, How does these stops me from worshipping Allah?

sagenaija:
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You're engaging in you guys major TACTIC - go round in a circle and then claim 'You have been answered' or in some cases 'You have been refuted!'

Hope you know that it is not only the two of us who are reading these posts. Sometimes a new person may just come in at some point in the conversation.

So, if the questions have been answered severally why not simply COPY AND PASTE it here for all to see. Copy and paste wouldn't take much time; would it?

Who is Allah telling ''You alone do we worship...' and then
'Guide us in the straight path'?
After all, according to you guys, it is Allah who is speaking throughout the Koran.

So, tell us:
Who is the 'You' and who is the 'We' here?

You are right. Someone new may be following this conversation.

The "you" is sagenaija and the[b]"We"[/b] is sagenaija and enilove.

Are you happy now?

sagenaija:
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You know that it's not about anything you've written up there.
It is simply about DEFENDING your 'Din'. And you have done a very poor job at doing so.

What does it take to simply say 'Hey guys, you are right' or 'I don't know the answer to question'?
Why is so difficult for you guys to admit to being wrong when you are?
Is this how Islam is? No INTEGRITY?

Oga, those questions have been answered severally on this forum.
Those are questions you and others have been asking for ages and you've been getting answers, which you kept dismissing. Nothing new.

Our answers shouldn't satisfy you for it to be reasonable or true.
You aren't our standard for what is reasonable or true.

Why not just accept whatever the believers in Allah say it means, instead of arguing on what you have no knowledge and you don't believe in, especially.

Anyways, since your arguments, wrong and false interpretations and meanings of the Qur'an and Sunnah isn't yielding your desired results, while not command your God, Jesus to do it for you. Stop me from Worshipping Allah make I see.
That's the easiest way.

sagenaija:
Over and over again you guys are unable to give clear answers to the discrepancies in your religion. Just saying that 'We know what it means' or 'We understand' doesn't cut it. Explain in clear terms what you know or what you understand. But that looks like an uphill task for you guys because, in reality, you just don't know or understand. You have simply accepted what you were fed with hook line and sinker.

Let's get it straight; you have no problem with having perpetually ERECT male organ in Paradise because that may be the only thing you'll be doing there or are you going to be going about doing other things with fully erect male member?

If Koran is the word of Allah to you, then who is Allah telling ''You alone do we worship...' and then
'Guide us in the straight path'?
After all, according to you guys, it is Allah who is speaking throughout the Koran.

So, tell us:
Who is the 'You' and who is the 'We' here?
Is that too hard to answer?

So, because one @Sagenaija or @enilove on NL said he does not understands why Allah or His Prophet said or does somethings, I should start singing "alleluia Jesus is my God"?

Well, i always remind trinitarians that i don't come here to argue religion.

I think it should be more easier for you to tell Jesus, your God to stop me from being a Muslim than all these nonsense interpretations and meanings you give to the words of Allah.
I suggest you ask Jesus, your God for help.
How is that so difficult for you to do?

For now, me and my household are holding firmly to the rope of Allah.

[3:19] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"اِنَّ الدِّیۡنَ عِنۡدَ اللّٰہِ الۡاِسۡلَامُ ۟ وَ مَا اخۡتَلَفَ الَّذِیۡنَ اُوۡتُوا الۡکِتٰبَ اِلَّا مِنۡۢ بَعۡدِ مَا جَآءَہُمُ الۡعِلۡمُ بَغۡیًۢا بَیۡنَہُمۡ ؕ وَ مَنۡ یَّکۡفُرۡ بِاٰیٰتِ اللّٰہِ فَاِنَّ اللّٰہَ سَرِیۡعُ الۡحِسَابِ ﴿۱۹﴾

Truly, Islam is the only Din (Religion) in Allah’s sight. And the People of the Book disagreed, after knowledge had come to them, only on account of their mutual jealousy and contention. And he who denies Allah’s revelations, then surely Allah hastens in calling to account.

sagenaija:
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1. I asked a question: Are Daif Hadiths REJECTED in Islam? Instead of answering 'Yes' or 'No' you went on to write up a new question and answer that one as if you answered what I asked.
You said:

Why didn't you answer my question straightaway? Because you wanted to be disingenuous. And now here you are claiming that others are twisting your reply. Who came up with a different question to the one I asked - you or me?

Talking about memory; are the Hadiths you quote today lifted from written texts or from memory? If Islam understands and agrees that some Hadiths are false what stops Islam from CLEARLY saying so? The real reason is that Islam would want to bring them up when it would suit her cause some other time. Otherwise it is very easy to just let the world know which are true and which ones are false.


2. On al-Fatiha:
Going to the Bible wouldn't help your cause.
Let me make it simple for you:
If a man is writing, he can choose to write in the first person or the third person; that is not the contention. But if he switches from one to the other after every single sentence, to claim that it is still in order must mean that we suspend our senses.

Here you are arguing about Matthew's usage of grammar and EXCUSING the way Allah made his blunder.

The Koran says that Allah PRAYS. When we ask 'To whom?', you guys come up with REINTERPRETATION of the words used for prayer. Here again we see Allah speaking in such a way as to suggest that he is referring to a superior and you guys engage in explanations that just don't make sense.

Why would Allah be teaching his slaves how to pray and did not clearly say so? Does the hadith you claim specifically say that THE PRAYER refers to this sura?

Allah starts by:
'In the name of Allah...' and
'All praise is due to Allah alone'
Then goes on to say:
'You alone do we worship...' and then
'Guide us in the straight path'

Even if you take the first few words, as you guys argue, as being the words of Allah Allah referring to himself how do you reconcile that with what follows - 'You alone do we worship'? And 'Guide us ...'?
Who is the 'YOU' here and who is the 'WE'?
Who is saying 'Guide us...'?
Obviously the person speaking cannot mean anything different than that the 'WE' is the ones telling the 'YOU' that they worship him - ie. the 'YOU'. And the ones asking for guidance are doing so from a superior being.

BUT THEN, according to Moslems, Allah is the ONLY ONE speaking throughout the Koran. So, when the one speaking says 'You alone do we worship' how can that still be Allah? Is Allah saying that he's part of those worshipping Allah?
AGAIN, nothing in this portion says anything like 'Allah says that when you pray, pray like this ....' If there is please show us. Give us the reference from the Koran.

Why don't you simply admit that the text is chaotic in its structure and may actually be an insertion in the Koran that is not Allah's words?

The Muslims have given you their interpretation of the Qur'an, yet you wunt stop.

The Qur'an is the words of Allah to us as Muslims.

Muslims have no doubt about the contents of the Qur'an.

Whatever interpretation you make out of the Qur'an is yours to gloat on as a non Muslim.

You cannot force your interpretation on us, after all you don't believe in Allah and his Messenger.

Also, it makes no difference how you choose to interpret the words of Allah.

We know what is the meaning of the Qur'an.

advocatejare:
State where it is stated that you need exegesis to understand the Qur'an. Are you claiming that you know more than Allah or whoever the authors of the Qur'an are who claim that the Qur'an is clear

"And We did not give Prophet Muhammad, knowledge of poetry, nor is it befitting for him. It is not but a message and a clear Qur'an"
(QS. Yaseen 36: Verse 69)

"This [Qur'an] is a clear statement to [all] the people

and a guidance and instruction for those conscious of Allah."
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 138)


Who was the misguided soul praying to be guided in sura fatiha?



Then you are all confused. How can you be praying to be guided when you have already been guided?


Help remain firm is not in fatiha. It's to be guided. That shows that the creators of Islam knew that they were misguided.

Everyday!

Ammishaddai:
I'm sure zombies and Head-slamming Afonjas must be masturbating to this new. What a bunch of sickos!

They deleted Our President's tweet. Our President ban their operation from his country.
If Biafra has a country, lets see twitter HQ there.
LNGKMD!

Ammishaddai:
I'm sure zombies and Head-slamming Afonjas must be masturbating to this new. What a bunch of sickos!

So far Buhari is leading the tag team of twitter and Biafra.

enilove:
I have not met any reasonable Muslims who can be a teacher to any Christian in this world as long as your prophet was commanded to enroll in any Christian school for knowledge as a student.

I have one simple question for you which will make me to know whether you are different from others .

What evidence do you have to prove that Muhammad Qur'an is from God Almighty .

To quote the Bible or the Qur'an is not an evidence that they are from God since anyone can writer down magical books which some people follow and it works for them.

What evidence do you have to show the Qur'an is from God your Creator ?

In Islam the Qur'an is an evidence of God my creator.
So, limit your understanding to you bible which seems to be making you insecure.

Why ask a question when answered, you will argue.

enilove:
Yes God took a human form to die for his creations and to live again for ever .

John 10:17-18 KJV
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. [18] No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

JESUS HAS THE POWER OF RESURRECTION .

But what you believe is Allah the black stone.
Is it not madness to believe in a stone than a man ?

Psalm 115:3-8 KJV
But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
[4] Their idols are stone, silver and gold, the work of men's hands.
[5] They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not:
[6] They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not:
[7] They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat.
[8] They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them.

You believe a man like Muhammad who was bewitched over Jesus Christ the Messiah who casted out demons of bewitchment from demons possessed people like Muhammad .
Is that sensible to you ?

You are only want to argue as usual.
You have been here sufficiently to know who Allah is.
Muslims have schooled you enough about Allah.

Allah is not an idol in any form or object.
Allah can never take human form for whatever reason.
Allah can never beget. This is an animal act!

[112:1] Al-Ikhlāṣ-الْإِخْلاَص
"قُلۡ ہُوَ اللّٰہُ اَحَدٌ ۚ﴿۱﴾

(O Esteemed Messenger!) Proclaim: ‘He is Allah, Who is the One.


[112:2] Al-Ikhlāṣ-الْإِخْلاَص
"اَللّٰہُ الصَّمَدُ ۚ﴿۲﴾

Allah is the Transcendent of all, the Protector and Far-Superior to all.
[112:3] Al-Ikhlāṣ-الْإِخْلاَص
"لَمۡ یَلِدۡ ۬ۙ وَ لَمۡ یُوۡلَدۡ ۙ﴿۳﴾

He has not begotten any, nor is He begotten.

[112:4] Al-Ikhlāṣ-الْإِخْلاَص
"وَ لَمۡ یَکُنۡ لَّہٗ کُفُوًا اَحَدٌ ٪﴿۴﴾

Nor is there anyone equal to Him.’


For Muhammad to cause you these obssessions is also an evidence of his prophethood.

As a Muslim I have no issue with what Jesus did or did not do. He wasn't God nor the son of God. Simple!

[10:65] Yūnus-يُوْنـُس
"وَ لَا یَحۡزُنۡکَ قَوۡلُہُمۡ ۘ اِنَّ الۡعِزَّۃَ لِلّٰہِ جَمِیۡعًا ؕ ہُوَ السَّمِیۡعُ الۡعَلِیۡمُ ﴿۶۵﴾
(O Glorious Messenger!) Let not their (hostile and malicious) conversation grieve you. Surely, all grandeur and authority belong to Allah alone (Who bestows upon whom He wills anything He may please). He is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.
[10:66] Yūnus-يُوْنـُس
"اَلَاۤ اِنَّ لِلّٰہِ مَنۡ فِی السَّمٰوٰتِ وَ مَنۡ فِی الۡاَرۡضِ ؕ وَ مَا یَتَّبِعُ الَّذِیۡنَ یَدۡعُوۡنَ مِنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰہِ شُرَکَآءَ ؕ اِنۡ یَّـتَّبِعُوۡنَ اِلَّا الظَّنَّ وَ اِنۡ ہُمۡ اِلَّا یَخۡرُصُوۡنَ ﴿۶۶﴾
Know! To Allah belongs whoever is in the heavens and whoever is in the earth. And those who worship (idols) besides Allah do not (in fact) follow (even) their (own sculptured) partner-gods. They follow but only (their own) assumption and conjecture, and they merely indulge in wrong guesswork.
[10:67] Yūnus-يُوْنـُس
"ہُوَ الَّذِیۡ جَعَلَ لَکُمُ الَّیۡلَ لِتَسۡکُنُوۡا فِیۡہِ وَ النَّہَارَ مُبۡصِرًا ؕ اِنَّ فِیۡ ذٰلِکَ لَاٰیٰتٍ لِّقَوۡمٍ یَّسۡمَعُوۡنَ ﴿۶۷﴾
He is the One Who has made the night for you so that you may rest and relax therein, and made the day bright (so that therein you may do your work). Surely, there are signs in this for those who listen (attentively).
[10:68] Yūnus-يُوْنـُس
"قَالُوا اتَّخَذَ اللّٰہُ وَلَدًا سُبۡحٰنَہٗ ؕ ہُوَ الۡغَنِیُّ ؕ لَہٗ مَا فِی السَّمٰوٰتِ وَ مَا فِی الۡاَرۡضِ ؕ اِنۡ عِنۡدَکُمۡ مِّنۡ سُلۡطٰنٍۭ بِہٰذَا ؕ اَتَقُوۡلُوۡنَ عَلَی اللّٰہِ مَا لَا تَعۡلَمُوۡنَ ﴿۶۸﴾
They say: ‘Allah has adopted a son (for Himself,’ whereas) He is Holy. He is Self-Sufficient. Whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth, all belongs to Him alone. You have no evidence with you of this (false allegation). Do you attribute that (thing) to Allah which you (yourselves) do not know?
[10:69] Yūnus-يُوْنـُس
"قُلۡ اِنَّ الَّذِیۡنَ یَفۡتَرُوۡنَ عَلَی اللّٰہِ الۡکَذِبَ لَا یُفۡلِحُوۡنَ ﴿ؕ۶۹﴾
Say: ‘Surely, those who fabricate lies against Allah shall not prosper.’
[10:70] Yūnus-يُوْنـُس
"مَتَاعٌ فِی الدُّنۡیَا ثُمَّ اِلَیۡنَا مَرۡجِعُہُمۡ ثُمَّ نُذِیۡقُہُمُ الۡعَذَابَ الشَّدِیۡدَ بِمَا کَانُوۡا یَکۡفُرُوۡنَ ﴿٪۷۰﴾
There is (but a few days’) enjoyment in this world. Then they are to return to Us. We shall then afflict them with a severe torment as recompense for their disbelief.

You can continue your argument.

edoairways:
The Ecclesiastical court will ensure that dispute among Clerics and even Christians pertaining to spiritual matters that involve sacraments, successors to personal properties, Christian Marriage, discipline, administration of church, ecclesiastical corporate bodies, tithes, benefits , question touching on oaths and vows are determine in accordance with the Biblical and Christian injunctions. Christians matters shouldn't be handled in secular courts to begin with

What about criminal law?

sagenaija:
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My God took on flesh in order to pay for the sins of all men. It was that flesh that died. He was judged for the sin of the whole world so that no one who accepts his substitutionary sacrifice will have to be ever judged again. So, there was a reason for his coming in flesh to die.

His divine nature and human soul were still alive during the period of death and eventually resurrected the body after 3 days.

In Koran 27: 7-9 Allah entered his creation and spoke from a fire. [/b]He was said to be the blessed one in the fire. [b]Christians claim that God entered his creation as a man.
The Koran has two natures - as the eternal word of Allah and as a physical book. So, when the physical Koran is burnt will Moslems say that the eternal word of Allah is destroyed? No! It is only the things that make up the physical nature of the book that are destroyed. The Moslem will admit that the eternal nature of the Koran remains unchanged.

Jesus had two natures - the divine and the flesh. While the flesh could die, the divine nature remained because it is not subject to death. There's no issue with that for Christians.

But you are comfortable with a religion that was recreated in the Hijaz; a religion that DID NOT originally start there.
You are comfortable with a so-called Prophet whose original name was not Mohamed.
You are comfortable with Hadiths Hadiths that had to be reduced from 600,000 to 7,000 because there were a lot of 'fake'(?).
And only put together hundreds of years after Mohamed.
You are comfortable with a black stone that someone ran away with and put in the current location according to history.
You are comfortable with claiming 'Allah knows best' even when confronted with glaring inconsistencies and contradictions in your books.

You prefer a man-produced salvation to one that God himself provides. Jesus emphatically declared that he is the way, and the truth, and life. Come to him.
At the end of the day the choice is yours but you will have no excuse - I have warned you.

You are comfortable with a God that took a human form to die for his own creation sins.

Why not dey your lane jeje.

Everything you said up there are your own conjectures.

We know what we believe as Muslims.

Dtruthspeaker:
Thank God you said you dwell in the south, go to Kaduna and live there, then you will know how much the Muslims hate you.

Please tell us your experience in Kaduna.
How did came out alive?

edoairways:
The laws are not Christian laws either

Please, tell me about Christian law.
I am interested.