₦airaland Forum

AntiChristian:
Orchid is smaller and commoner in Jesus's environment then.

When orchid seed grows big is it also bigger than mustard?

AntiChristian:
This is false! No one will bow!

How is it a false? Explain yourself.

AntiChristian:
of what use is a son to him? He doesn't need a helper or inheritor!

God having a begotten son is what goes against sound reason! He needs nothing to complete himself!


My theory is that if your God has a son then the son should have a son or be sterile!

All your answers are good only you have not answered my questions.
Are you God's counselor or are you thinking for God?

AntiChristian:
Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him the name above all names, [b]that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, [/b]in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord (Kyrios), to the glory of God (Theou) the Father.
Philippians 2:9-11

Will this happen in the future or it is happening at the moment?

Every knee can never bow at the mention of Jesus's name!

And every tongue will never confess that Jesus is Lord!

Both now and in future.
If you refuse to bow now, you will still do it in the future.

AntiChristian:
Mustard Seed is not the smallest seed
He put before them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed that a man planted in his field. Although it is the smallest of all seeds, yet it grows into the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and nest in its branches. Matthew 13:31-32

I doubt a mustard seed can even grow to a tree that birds would nest on!

A Cool Parable though but ....Kobojunkie, Elated177, NNTR, tctrills.

What is the smallest seed?

AntiChristian:
If God has a son then is the son sterile to give God a grandson?

Hello my old friend. Your attempt to discuss bible philosophy makes you a comedian in street of Christian knowledge.



1. Why do you think God cannot have a son?
2. What do you understand by the concept of sonship in Christianity?
3. What do you mean by sterility in spiritual things?


Note: Christianity is a spiritual community.
Thanks

AntiChristian:
If God has a son then is the son sterile to give God a grandson?

Vote for our childrens' future lokan






Vote wisely, vote Obi

The man really transformed Kano State. We had a PhD holder in Ekiti State. His works are not visible.

Let him brag about his PhD his works are a testimony.


He is only testing his popularity this time. He could be president before Nigeria breaks.

I also learned this man gives automatic scholarship to any student studying law from his town. Ikere - Ekiti will soon become the law hub of Nigeria.
Lol

I wish our political leaders have our love in their hearts.



Anyways, I like his passion for his people.
More grease to his elbow.

Vote wisely, vote our childrens' future lokan

Vote Obi

Igbos are intelligent and proud about it. We develop Abuja, Lagos, Ibadan and others. We are superior to others. We have something to show for it.

Soludo is on his own, he represent himself by himself for his ambition.

We are winning everywhere.

Evev the blind can see the corruption of APC and PDP, the deaf also can hear. Vote wisely.




Vote Obi

qwertyboss:
Wahala
So the heavens many?
Am not arguing with anyone...
You have your religion and I have my religion...
All the best, I wish you well in yours hope you are wishing me well too ...
Na me and you here I dey talk o
No be one mumu somewhere wey no understand religion and do anyhow there they claim religion...
I live in peace

Heaven where there's sex orgies and intoxication and the one where dwells righteousness.
A heaven where they go with Viagra

qwertyboss:
Do you know what is seal of God on their foreheads?
It's the prayer mark on those who prostrate...
In essence Muslims.
Your research is leading you somewhere.
Kudos

They are talking of christian heaven, Muslim dey put mouth.

odduduwa:
Ewedu people's handwork

Obi is bigger than any tribe now.
Shealth your sword bro.

Any part of Nigeria that fails to vote PDP is doomed in Atiku's presidency. Buhari's tribalism will be a joke compared to Atiku/Okowas'



Vote Obi

Dtruthspeaker:
Classic lazy youth who relies on hearsay.

Those you call biblical scholars are still humans who do not have 2 heads. Therefore, whatever they can do, you can do to.

Deafening silence

Their Pastor Has Gone mad Again


Daddy Freeze

Abdulgaffar22:
I said I agree with you on Malachi passage. What else do you want ?

Say something about Psalm 102:26-27

Again, do you agree with my second point ? If no, tell me the reason

Finally, bring a biblical evidence to support your view that "I AM THAT I AM" implies that God can change Himself to anything He likes.

Do you speak Hebrew or have any knowledge of Hebrew. You have to learn it to be an Old Testament scholar. So many people discuss here blindly without knowledge of what they are saying. We use interpretations to argue. You and I know that when translating from one language to another, you cannot be 100% accurate. These are not in Nigeria. For instance, what is fig or pomegranate in any Nigerian language? Yet we give them names in our local translations.

Just google the name and see explanations from biblical scholars. In Islam you have tasfir that explains every Quranic verse, sois it with Christianity, there commentaries and concordances, and word for word electronic and printed bibles with Greek and Hebrew word for word.


Just search the meaning on the internet.

FreeIgboho:
You are the one who pretentiously opened your topic with a “peace be upon him” on Lord Jesus, knowing fully well we Christians don’t do that. Thanks

I am just drawn to this OP's posts. He like his mentors Naik, Ahmed Deedat, Shabby Ally, Mohammed Hijab want to form they know Bible, they confuse themselves. Even, mohammed (SAW), was confused about the message of Christianity. He as this Abdul do not know anything in Aramaic, Hebrew, or Greek languages.

They want to form a scholar.
Even the Islam itself they don't understand.
I have watched for hours all their scholars, sheikhs humiliated by Christian Prince.


He, Christian Prince, up till now is challenging Zakir Naik and Shabby Ally to debate anytime, anywhere, anyday, they has been avoiding him.


One yoruba, self acclaimed bible scholar , Adepọju, would gather illiterates like this Abdul and be spewing rubbish out his septic tank mouth like their Professor Akinola of MURIC.


This Abdul sees himself as a student of these clowns as his mentors to build a career starting from Nairaland.

No peace is needed to be on Jesus, He is the peace giver, The Prince of Peace.

Abdulgaffar22:
You don't agree with what ?



Malachi 3:6 says For I am the Lord, I change not ; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

God says ; I change not.

But if you think the verse doesn't imply that God cannot change His nature, then let us forget the Malachi passage.

Then what do you have to say regarding Psalm 102:26-27 which says ;

Even they will perish, but You endure;
And all of them will wear out like a garment;
Like clothing You will change them and they will be changed. “But You are the same,
And Your years will not come to an end

Again I am asking you ; bring a biblical evidence to prove that God can change Himself to anything He likes

Brother, be honest. Read through the book of Malachi. If you don't mind can we take it chapter by chapter and thereby draw a conclusion?
God is not talking about a change like ice to water to vapour.
The verse you picked is even only a part. You cannot build a doctrine around it.

Right?

He said in Exodus that 'I Am that I Am'

Be honest stay on the topic.

I still maintain the word honestly

Abdulgaffar22:
I didn't use Malachi 3:6 to support my transformation analysis. I only use the verse to butress the fact that God's nature cannot be changed. Malachi 3:6 has nothing to do with my new analysis I started with you.

So let's proceed ; do you agree with the second point above ?

Again you are yet to bring a biblical evidence to support your assertion that "I AM WHO I AM" implies that God can choose whatever He want to be. You can see that I have given you my own evidence above (Psalm 102:26-27) that God always remain the same without changing.

I don't
The whole of Malachi ha a central theme of: offering,s service, tithes, tear of God and His principles.
Right?
Be honest

The judge may have had a terrible experience either with cultists or armed robbers before. The judgment doesn't look like corruption but vendetta.

Abdulgaffar22:
Good ! You have agreed that a change usually involve a conversion from initial state to final state. For an illustration, wheat flour is the initial state and the bread is the final state.

Now the second point : do you agree that for something to change, the time required for the existence of its initial state must have been completed or finished before its final state can begin to exist ?

For an illustration, if the wheat flour is the initial state and the bread is the final state, then the time required for the existence of that wheat flour must have been completed or finished before the bread can begin to exist.

Please do you agree ?





God introduced Himself to Moses as I AM WHO I AM (Exodus 3:14). This name of God signifies His eternal nature. That is to say God always was and always will remain the same without changing ;

“Even they will perish, but You endure;
And all of them will wear out like a garment;
Like clothing You will change them and they will be changed. “But You are the same,
And Your years will not come to an end (Psalm 102:26-27)

But if you believe the phrase "I AM WHO I AM" implies God can change Himself to anything He likes, please bring a biblical evidence to support your view.

.


I will like you not to deviate from the passage you quoted in Malachi . If you read the preceding verses and those after, do they really support your transformation analysis? Be honest.

Abdulgaffar22:
I can see that you are new on this post.
Do you really have interest in knowing the truth or you want to argue blindly like those who completely sealed their minds because of their preconceived notion ?

If you really have interest in knowing the truth, let us start and consider the points one after the other.

First, do you agree that a change usually involve a conversion from initial state to a final state ?

I totally agree with you on the bolded, however,
So God has now changed His 'I Am'?

Okay give your own meaning to the name. I humbly want to learn.

Abdulgaffar22:
Being an omnipotent, can God just change Himself to become anything He likes ?


1. Essence of God is outside the world of space and time because God has been in existence before the creation of space and time.


2. Hence, for God to become anything else and therefore dwell inside the world of space and time, His nature has to undergo a change.


3. But God cannot just decide to change His own nature because He did not create His nature at first instance. His nature did not begin to exist and hence no need to be created.


If God's own nature was created by His will, then He can decide to re-create it again and then change it according to His will. But this is not the case because His nature need not to be created at first instance since His nature has no beginning of existence.

4. Therefore, if God cannot just decide to change His own nature as explained in (3) above, then God (who is outside the world of space and time) cannot just decide to change and become anything else that can dwell inside the world of space and time. This is because such a real confinement of God inside a world of space and time must definitely involved a change in God's nature. Yet His nature cannot be changed (Malachi 3:6).

5. In conclusion, if Man really dwell inside the world of space and time and God is really outside the world of space and time, then God cannot change to become a Man or anything else apart from His original essence. This is why God is Eternal and immutable !.

The omnipotence of God is over what God has created by His will and this include the world of space and time. That is to say, God is omnipotent i:e all powerful over all what He has created by His will ; not over something that God did not create by His will (like God's own nature). God's own nature need not to be created since His nature has no beginning of existence.

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You are thinking for God the same way Obidients are thinking for obi. What if God could and/ or had done this before? Have you seen God before? God said 'I am '

I chose whatever I want to be: that is the meaning.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Don’t tell me you just realized that in 2023.

3 decades ago, the country was already doomed.

Just a reminder

Nigeria is doomed.

Naira20:
Throwing Bible verses without understanding them is balderdash.

Listen, it is those without solid biblical background that you can toss around.

God meets everyman He wants to encounter at his or her own level.
God is not complex.

So leave all those packaging.
Every true child of God has the Holy Spirit in them that teaches them.

God deals with people via emotions.
That's why He can convict sinners,there is godly sorrow etc.

Kobojunkie is a confusionist. She queries and opposes everything without providing any solution or experience. To such as K- junkie deafening silence is the best answer.

sircatherine45:
if Chelsea love their club, they should sack this guy now. I'm not a Chelsea fan, but truth be told, they should bring Zidane or Rohr.

Rohr kwa?



#bringbacktuchel.