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If God know everything, why did he have to text Adam and Eve with a tree to be sure?



There Are Times in the Bible When God Doesn’t Know All, and Tests People to Find Things Out
The Bible says God is perfect in knowledge, knows all thoughts, all secrets, sees all and no-one can hide from God.

Yet there are times when God doesn’t know things, such as where people are.

Check these verses:

Genesis 3:8-13 – Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord, amongst the trees of the garden, and God had to go find them, and then asks them questions.

Genesis 11:4 -9 – Tower of Babel;: God “comes down” to see what the people are up to.


Genesis 18:20-21 – “Then the LORD said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know. ””(SO HE DOES NOT KNOW??)

Job 1:7 , 2:2 – “And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, from going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.”(He does not know where Satan has been)


Yet an all-knowing God, creator of all time, knows exactly who will pass any tests, and knows exactly what is in everyone’s heart. So either God is lying about his reasons, or, god is not actually all-knowing.


God is Neither Omniscient Nor Omnipotent.

Epicurus Sums It Up Quite Well

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

Long epistle. All religion are same. A tool by which a few control a docile many for their gain.

cross over to where.
Both Christian and Muslims worship the devil.

doveyla:
Guy try ask God when you cross over,mtcheewww

There is no difference between stories in the bible and Koran. They are more of fiction, myth than real events.
The Koran is much more filled with fabrications than actual events.
All Abrahamic religion are same.

ShaheedBinAliyu:
CHRISTIANITY IS A LIE, THERE IS NO JESUS AND BIBLE IS A BOOK WRITTEN BY ACCLAIMED PEOPLE . .its not HOLY BOOK BUT JUST A BOOK . . . .and that story is a lie . .its not about fruit at all. . to answer your question, OUR EXISTENCE IS TO SERVE ALLAH by proving to HIM that we are worthy of al jahnnah and that we are kind . .g

I have been a Christian all my life. However, I keep wondering why God had to test Adam & Eve with a fruit tree.
The testing is not my problem. When we build things as human we test them to ensure they fit the purpose for which we made them. God is all knowing(that mean he knew the defect inherent in his creation yet he did not perfect it. They fail the test, meaning they failed the fitness test.

Now my questions:

1. Why not eliminate them and create other human having learnt from the initial defect?

2. Why do we have to suffer for so long?

These bible stories don't just add up anymore.

I thought Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever.
But remember that he will allow the devil to torment the billion people in China in hell because they are not Christian. If he want all of us to know him, why appear only to the Jews in one small part of planet earth.

Jochabed:
That was before the coming of Jesus,God's mercy is everywhere now. You don't know Jesus pleads on our behalf.

In recent times, I am having a second thought on things I read and believed in the bible.

I have never read a place in the bible where the devil killed someone without Gods permission.
1. He killed Jobs ten sons with God's permission.
Why did some innocent young guys just die because two powerful being placed a bet. Why place bet with peoples life?

2. God killed first born of Egypt, even animals where not spared. Even first born infants, babies, and children where murdered. Why visit adult sins on innocent children. Imagine sentencing a man child to dead because his father is an armed robber. is that just.

3. Book haram who kill people because they don't believe in their brand of Islam is branded as terrorist. Now God told the Israelite to killed the Canaanites because they belong to another religion. A whole tribe was murdered in many cases. What do we call that in modern times. Imagine if all Igbo's are murdered because they are not Muslim. What do we call that in modern times.

4. Elijah(or is it Elisha?) ordered a bear to kill some little boys because they where making jest of him. Why not simply correct them. Is killing them a just punishment for making jest of someone? As a little school boy, I made caricature of some disabled people then and I am sure most of us did or still do that. Should the state make such a capital offence, will you support it?

I can go on and on. I am beginning to doubt many stories in the bible.
What are your views?

She is an apostate not because she left JW, No, but because she no longer believe in "a christian god". I'll call her an Antichrist.

true2god:
He has his life to leave, why call him an apostate just because he no longer follow the watchtower beliefs?

First of I,m no JW. I,m only concerned that complaining started because someone is shunned. The hypocrisy there is that the one shunning others today will complain when he is is shunned for whatever reason. This post and several by paulgrundy made to read up a lot of sites and blog post by ex-JW. Its nauseating to read because its all filled with bitterness because they where shunned.
I ask, did you not shunned someone when you where an active member?
Simply move on and make new friends. No one is threatening with imminent death like 9ja school cult.

Hairyrapunzel:
You mean people are disgruntled because a religion told their loved ones to cut them off.
What is lost out. Tell people the truth watchtower breaks up families and friendship. Your love is conditional psycho.


You are a psychopath. What people will do because they want to pet pandas in summer and see Lions and tigers eating grass in an imaginary Paradise earth. Smh.

You know you are eating poison, and you want to help to know they eating is poison, but still eat it. You are a hypocrite. I read a lot of shit on reditt. I hate when people attack an organization simply because they lost out.
Please, man up and have the balls to leave. I hate disgruntled people. Tufiakwa

ChristianFreedo:
That's why we have what we call secret disciples. Jesus had one, Nicodemus. Do you understand the concept? It's nothing strange there.

Actions like mine wouldn't have been necessarily if they organization had allow us leave in peace. Whenever anyone has a legitimate question or doubts about their doctrine, our intentions are questions, and doubts are punished. They organizations portray us in the worst possible terms, punishes us, castigate us and treat us like demons.

Friends we have shun us, our families are broken apart for questioning the organization or even leaving. The organization simply leaves us no honorable way of leaving them with us suffering the paying dearly for it.

Actions like this are necessary.

Ignorance is bliss. Enjoy

DanielsParker:
so?
with their contract staffs .
First bank has never conducted a graduate training Program

You are dumb. You know why? Because you still believe the religion crap. Now in many land, especially lands where things are moving fine, people are leaving the church, JW church or any other church by whatever name called. The religious nature of Nigeria(africa generally) is actuated by ignorance, poverty and deprivation.
NOW my dear, MOVE ON. Leave these guys alone. Remove bitterness from your heart. Even your bible recommends it.
JW or any other religion is a total waste of time.

rottennaija:
Meanwhile, what do you think about the kingdom halls being sold by the organization? Is it part of the wondrous expansion taking place?

About 10 new ones are up for sales in Canada. Below are the pictures. I mean this one isn't part of the apostate lies, is it?

Your position is pitiable. How can you knowingly be part of falsehood. You attend their service, and probably preach and still call them false religion? That is acute hypocrisy. You are worse than the staunch JW who believe they have the monopoly of "Truth".

ChristianFreedo:
You should realize that I was not chased out. I still attend meetings and sometimes answers questions that is worth answering. I give reports too.

Falsehood must be exposed. If it gives you heart breaks, so be it. But falsehood must be exposed for what it is. And there is no moving on, this falsehood must be exposed untill all parts of a false religion is held accountable for their falsehood

JW this JW that. Remove bitterness and move on. You are not the only former JW. This constant grumbling seems like someone who is angry simply because he was chased out. Be a man. Move on like

STFU.
that line "no matter what a woman does..." is lame. Y not no matter what a man does a woman should keep her tongue. You think men derive pleasure in hitting a woman you day dreamed and 'night dreamed' about during the wooing days.

Violence is condemnable, whether domestic or otherwise.

Evaberry:
very few men are victims of domestic violence. Women always bear the brunt of a man's anger


No matter what a woman says or does, a man should never hit her, a man is physically stronger than a woman so hitting her will inflict serious physical damage, whereas a woman may not cause any real harm to a man.

Op the husband in your write Up should have quietly left the compound and go relax somewhere until he was sure his wife had calmed down. when a woman is angry she throws all reason and caution to the wind, it therefore falls on the man to be understanding and reasonable


Engaging in a fisticuffs with a woman is wrong and should be condemned.

Your HOD is probably comfortable with you probably cos u are of same religion hence he dents you on errand especially buying him food.
Don't isolate yourself. Try and learn the language if you can. Mix up

risingrainboll:
My team mates of five have these in common: Language and Religion. This is affecting my performance on the job as they often communicate in their local dialect, leaving me out. Sometimes, I am marginzlised in the process.
Also, my HOD (though of my religion) singles me out for errands such as buying him food even when I am seriouly busy.
What do I do as I always feel depressed over these each day I go to work? I am really worried. Please I need professional counsel.
Also, I think I might need a counselor/mentor. I feel I need someone to help me package myself and develop a professional deamenor.
Somebody HELP ME!

By my question, I do not mean all the police in the world.
Nigeria Police is not the worst in the world also.

However, I simply want to be specific. At least we know them more any other in the world.

The Police organization sanction oppression, murder, evil and all sort of thing condemned by God.
You may have experienced this personally or know someone who had.
Its not an issue of individual been bad here.

Can one who belong to an known for evil make heaven?

Bros modify the subject.

"Pastor Involved In A Fatal Accident On His Way To A Crusade(photo)"
The accident was not fatal. Or did someone die? If yes, what is he thanking God for?

Small time now, we go blame standard of education but we sef no kukuma dey learn book well.

bigCassava:
The pastor involved in the accident is Evangelist Friday who almost lost his life on his way to a crusade as around 12.58am. As you can see the accident happened alongside okigwe road. While trying to maintain his driving lane,he fell inside a ditch and immediately some area boys gathered there after to rescue him but thank God there was no life lost.The clergyman had just celebrated his new Toyota Avalon with his Facebook friends within a short period of time before the accident happened in Abia state.

See the incident pictures below,

See When he celebrated the car with Facebook friends below,

Source – http://www.u2gossip.com.ng/2017/09/pastor-involved-in-fatal-accident-on.html?m=1

When a person commits a crime, the punishment is based upon both the severity of the crime and the person whom the crime is against.


I know that because God is just, people will suffer according to there deeds, and some will suffer longer than others. But how can you say that a just God would allow me who who stole a goat suffer the same fate as Boko Haram's Shakau who is responsible for thousands deaths?
Why should I suffer eternally for a sin I probably committed for a few weeks or years?
And how can a just God cause men to suffer torture FOREVER?
Will HE in His mercies shut his heart against those who in agony have been crying for thousands of years in hellfire asking for mercy and forgiveness??

The picture of God painted thought the doctrine of hellfire seems to contradict the merciful and loving God taught in the bible.

WHAT IS YOUR OPINION?

My opinion is you are a GOAT. A product of a broken condom.

RighteousI:
I found this picture online and its the cover picture of the christian women mirror magazine which is a Deeper Life publication.

What's your opinion? Is this just a coincidence or a display of a satanic symbol.

Give them their own country, una no agree. Make them kotinu to spoil our name for Oyibo country na. Make anybody no complain o.

Dannidom:
Neither will it stop skull miners, rapists and eventual Fulani conquests of your region when we leave

Call it double speak.
Note, I'm neither yooruba, Igbo or aboki the three greedy, stupid and corrupt ethnic group responsible for all the ills in Nigeria

Question.
Supposing Nigeria give you your Biafra republic, will it stop the IBO man from importing counterfeit products?
Will it stop you from travelling to India, Indonesia, Thailand and Malaysia to sell drugs?
Will it solve the problem of kidnapping by IBO people?

Advise to Nigerian.
Let these guys go.
That Nigeria have a bad reputation abroad as drug dealers, criminals and prostitutes is because of IBO people. Edo people I hail una sha for prostitution and trafficking in persons.
I searched YouTube for videos on Nigerian drug dealers and all I found is IBO guys, prostitution Edo.

Is 2face a christian? He owns a club. Is Wizkid and Davido christian? Because thl

Are you not already validating their teaching with the below?

" Please, give your life to Jesus. He is the only way to God. Otherwise, you will face his wrath."

Can the way leading to Abuja be Abuja itself?

Religion is entirely a confusion.

Ken4Christ:
JW members who have been indoctrinated are difficult to convert. They have been trained to ignore the truth and follow their deceptive teachings. The worst of their teachings is the denial of the existence of hell which is clearly revealed in the Bible. I wish they could see the doom that awaits them. Please, give your life to Jesus. He is the only way to God. Otherwise, you will face his wrath.

"For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?". (Revelation 6:17).

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Jabioro:
How much? because #5 note can be huge with less value in Ghana must go.. let us know what is involved..

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This my problem with you so-called Biafrans. Can you survive the biafra republic without the cooperation of others. Don't descend so low as to insult everyone even when they are making sense.
You won't get your Biafra in a century without the support of the south west or the cooperation of the South south states.
Peace

YOUNGrapha:
THIS MUMUNISED AFONJASTIC COWARDICED ODUDUWA DESCENDANT WANT TO ASSOCIATE WITH BIAFRA.........BECAUSE NNAMDI KALU HAS PAID THE PRICE BY STAYING IN KUJE FOR MONTHS.........PLS WE DNT WANT AMALA CONE HEAD IN OUR BIAFRA MAKE UNA GO JOIN AREWA REPUBLIC

http://kaluaja.com/politics/there-is-already-a-biafra/


The word Biafria is a " banned" word in Nigeria.

Even historically based movies about Biafra are either banned or censored by the Federal Government of Nigeria.

As a Nigerian, if you gather under the name of Biafra, you will be shot and killed....no questions asked...is there any law that bans Biafra or the mention of Biafra? No....but stupidity needs no laws.

Nigerian students study Shakespeare but not the Nigeria Civil War....many young Nigerian's do not even know Nigeria fought a civil war where for the first time in history during the Cold War the Russians and the West ie Great Britain fought on the same side and supplied arms to one side, the Nigerian Government...Many are unaware of how Bakassi Peninsula was originally lost to Cameroon, or how the Military was able to pass laws that took the oil Weealth of the Nigerian Delta to a central account called the Consolidated Revenue Fund aka FAAC...Many are blissfully unaware what the Civil War brought about ...

Since the Civil War, the last time Nigerian's even discussed the Civil War openly was the launch of Chinu Achebe book "There Was A Country"...and it was the same emotions exhibited....ignorance...mockery....then more ignorance.

If anything Nmandi Kanu has made Nigerians discuss Biafra...who would have believed a mere "boy" would cause such a national discuss...a discourse that was off limits...unspoken....a taboo. Not a shot has been fired....but the entire security apparatus has been deployed to prevent a "sit at home" order that has closed down the markets in Onitsha, Aba and others?...If Nmandi Kanu can shut down markets....in the South East, then truly the message has currency....Yes you may mock him today, but three years ago you had not heard of him....but this year, you have offered him free space and publicity on your page and blog.....because you are afraid and scared he just may be right...

I personally want one Nigeria where all the tribes are able to live out their full potential without fear or favour. There is no tribe in Nigeria that is more blessed or lazy....no tribe was born educationally disadvantaged....If Nigeria does not want Nmandi Kanu to succeed..then Nigeria should allow every Nigerian succeed on his merits alone..not the tribe of his grandfather...

Hate him....Love him....mock him....it matters none....Nmandi Kanu has achieved in 2017 what Dim Ojukwu sought to sustain...Nmandi Kanu has succeeded because Nigeria has failed to translate it's 180m residents into equal citizens. Nigeria fought for the right of self determination in South Africa, Angola, Zimbabwe even Palestine....but when Nigerian citizens gather...and mention Biafra...their own army kills them....in broad daylight....If a man seeks to kill his wife because she wants to discuss her "marriage" ...is the marriage not over?...can a man marry a dead partner?

There is already a Biafra....the question now is what will happen to this Biafra?....

I so post...

I was shocked. That day I knew that Nigeria can never be one.
Though, I,m no Igbo, I can feel the level of hatred Nigerians, especially Yoruba and Hausa have for the Igbo people.
When you no longer love a wife, you let her go. It only a man who know his life will be miserable without his continue to keep a woman he no longer loves but hate.
People like Ipobexposed are very dangerous. They instigate violence at any given opportunity. He will be the first to kill an Igbo neighbor who has been very good to him when war or any civil unrest breaks out.

BLACKdagger:
God bless u...
I saw this topic and was trying to comment only for them to remove it even when u didnt say anyhting bad on it.... thats to show u the height of eveil on this forum

U were smart enuff to screenshot it that dat knowing they would remove the topic..

Ipobexposed.