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GrammarNazi1:
...come...

Before you attempt to misguide yourself not me in an attempt to correct my written English, go and check your dictionary very well.

Op stop misinforming the general public.

MBBS is unclassified degree programme.

There's nothing like Grading in MBBS. Where does the First Class comes from?

From your ignorance.

muri4mig:
Professor Garba of Economic department of ABU. I celebrate you. Father of mordern econometric.

Indeed, when i had the privilege last year to listen to Prof's presentation in a workshop at Trenchard Hall Ui, I was 99% convinced that he deserves a professorial chair in Economics.

With his resignation from ABU, I hope there are others.

O men, these guys hate Amaechi.

They don't know Amaechi bought his way to PMB heart by sponsoring presidential election financially.

They should know money has power.

This is really disgusting.

I wish those students or Nigerian students can be taken for excursion to visit Tafawa Balewa Hall, Ui

Whether NASU is on duty or not, one can't find a pin on the floor.

Is there any Uite here to confirm what I just said about home for scholars (Balewites)

She almost lost track when the incumbent governor of Ebonyi state persuaded her to join PDP and she did.

Her quest to move to national assembly in 2019 would have being certain if she had maintained her former party, concerning her popularity and generosity.

Let's watch keenly as she plays the game given that she has vowed never to remain in state house in 2019.

A house divided on itself will not stand.

Nemesis is catching up with Okorohausa

Glory!!!

I see a lot of comments and I laugh over them.

People who have experienced road traffic accident and are alive knows what it means when they hear a testimony of such.

It can only be God who prevents our blood to spill on the ground.

Jogunomi1:
Lol. You know my school very well. Lautech doesn’t reward hard labor and brilliance. Them fit still frustrate person despite his ingenuity.

My advice for op, struggle to have at least second class upper, pass test of English exam like TOEFL before you graduate and keep searching for foreign scholarship online. For scholarships, you will need toefl and international passport.

Also, if you graduate with high CGPA, companies like banks will still be after you. As a scientist, obtain programming skills too.

Don't make my mistakes. Before going to Lautech, I had received calling into pastoral ministry. So, my aim was just to obtain a degree. I graduated with 2:2. After graduation, I felt I don't want to become a pastor, and I started job hunting. Even private schools rejected me. I'm very good in Physics and Maths but schools say my certificate is not related to education. Poor schools are offering me 15k salary - over my dead body! I have this pastoral gift and God is still talking to me about it. I left my initial church because I felt their doctrines and how the church is run looks like a business enterprise. In my new church, to become a pastor, I must go for Masters in Theology, and I don't have money again. I didn't even have parents while in Lautech. Wellwishers paid my fees. Which Wellwisher will i approach for Masters in theology? That's my fate. A very hopeless situation.

Your situation is not hopeless. Before I come to that, let me debunk a statement that you made, "Lautech doesn't reward hard labor and brilliance". This is not true.

I know of a friend who graduated with First Class in Agric Econs from Lautech. Enrolled for MSc in Econs at Ui and graduated with MPhil/PhD grade (55-59%). Got admitted into MPhil/PhD in Econs, Ui. While on the programme, he secured a job at one of the federal agencies at Abuja where salary is not disclosed to the general public but I can assure you that take home is not less than #400k (salary and allowances) per month with his MSc. This made him abandon the programme.

One can graduate with 2.1 and is unemployed for years. I have seen a good number of them, 4.0 above on 5.0 scale who have stayed ten years beyond after graduation while those with 2.2 secured jobs; some of them in commercial banks. Second Class (Upper Division) is fine. However it is a necessary but not sufficient condition to be employed in Nigerian economy. The sufficient condition is GRACE.

GRACE can lift a Third Class to a multinational company. I have seen some of my class mates and school mates working in oil and gas companies with Third Class and are doing extremely well. It is called GRACE.

As for your situation being hopeless, I disagree with you. Your situation can only be hopeless if indeed you have truly have the calling from the one who created all things and you chose to turned it down. That's when you will find life difficult until you hearken to His call. If He has called you, don't let your case be like that of Jonah.

Don't let anyone puts you into confusion.

So many people here and in the society at large will tell you that physicist will become a teacher.

It is not always true. Destiny differs. And peoples aspirations differ.

While it is true that secondary school will attract some physicists especially those with BSc, a good number are also likely to work in different sectors of the economy such as telecommunications and ICT, banking, civil service, etc.

As a physicist, if you find yourself working in radiation centre and possibly consulting like one of my friends, I can assure you that most engineers won't see your back financially.

The guy in question makes a min of #3m monthly on the average and has travelled to almost 36 states of the federation using flight as a result of physics.

He's in his early 30s and has three standard buildings at Eko. He has five cars of which the least is about #2m and a loving and caring family.

No course is a ride off.

[quote author=mizkiss437 post=67350773][/quote]This lady Nigerian youth is here again with his fake MTN data to used and scam people's recharge card.

Goodluck Jonathan made this election not to work - Osibanjo

Can any good thing come out from APC?

Can we see why APC can't even conduct its national convention for years.

I wonder how bloody the forth coming national convention will be if Oyegun decides to give Oshomole a run for his money

OGHENAOGIE:
the guy from adeleke university couldn't scale d dept screening...wer questions are from ur field....thats to Tel u our system got issues....sinxe graduates do well wen d go to d shores of other countries...oga open university is good to go enough of d stigma sm of u guys attached...perhaps if I had opted for open university since I shd have gotten my masters now....

The reason why graduates do well on getting outside is because our system is demanding in all aspect of life. Hence, once they assert similar effort, they tend to do exceedingly well. Remember we are blacks. We don't like getting things easily. It is in our nature.

Open University, you can join Papa Iyabo to bagged PhD there but I hope you have the connection. Lol

As much as I personally wants Buhari to sojourn to Daura next year, the IGP has done nothing wrong here.

There's a provision in administration for a deputy to represent his/her superior where and when necessary.

I would have only blame the executive and IGP specifically if a subordinate wasn't send to the hallowed chamber.

HoodBillionaire:
ive had 5ppl die thr
due to negligence
mistakes
and wrong injections

Hmmm!!!

5!!! Oluwa

This Chioma is intelligent and well brought up. See her reply

HoodBillionaire:
near d morgue
uch na death trap
i hate uch
they are bastards
arrogant
lazy
ans use patients for experiments
if u wanf to die cheaply
let them admit u

Seriously? I thought people say it's the best public tertiary health facility in Nigeria with professionals of track record.

OGHENAOGIE:
well I think we shd look at this logically which is d essence of philosophy nd logic we did at gst or gss as d case may be..... Perhaps u are rite dat sm ist class or 2.1 can't make equivalent in public universities...like a colleague of mine who said a ist class from adeleke couldn't get admission to ui Pol Sci in UI recently...to luk at d issue specifically... Der is individual workability nd we have private universities like covenant and babcock who have standard...pple get third class in covenant... Nd mind u the Society don't care about this process pple go thru to get dis grade who.... I know what I can do if given d opportunity bt u got to realize we are competing with guys from different terrain.... I read here on nairaland wer a graduate from novena university went to uk ND came out tops she was retained...so ur argument as to private schools nt up to standard is hasty generalisation........ The bottom line is this private schools has the requisite environs for learning and mentoring....i ll be stupid if I have much money nd send my wards to public schools except things change...... As for academics when the dust settles I ll kip working and go to open university......for msc even PhD if nt for anything self fulfilment nd d love for scholarship....now dat am into security...lets see hw it goes except a miracle happens I ll continue in Pol Sci...man is not younger any more nd education needs money which I don't have....the training I have got can See Me thru to d next level...while I hope for better opportunity

You are getting the whole issue twisted. Neither you nor your colleague can explain why a First Class from Adeleke University couldn't secure admission into Ui MSc. It might not be that the dude isn't intelligent. As an insider, I can authoritatively inform you that several factors are looked into. One, it could be that the dude in question couldn't passed the screening exam. I don't look at it at that instance but after being admitted.

Have you ever seen or heard of anyone who graduates from Nigerian universities and doesn't excel or top his/her class at UK? It's not possible. Reason being that our system might not give us the vest but it brings out the best in us.

Ha! Baba Iyabo university! Open university! Mbanu

Oluwa blessed the work of your hands.

Flight is not for everybody. If your level no reach, e no reach. Period

See poverty written all over their face and yet they are after raping.

OGHENAOGIE:
well u are entitled to ur opinion but ist it's not true that sm folks opt for private universities cos of competition....wen u consider the atmosphere in public universities u ll understand better...a man had to withdraw his wards from unical when on matriculation day he saw hw shabby the atmosphere is ....for me I attended a dept dat til tomoro I kip regretting if it would have been better staying put in the factory....look I had a 2.1 Political science...unical 3.61 but to be frank it could have been better given the efforts I put in...a situation wer smbody gives u 15 out of 40 for an assessment...even wen u know u deserve smtin u call it fair...a situation wer a lecturer brags that in his entire life time of lecturing only two students got and non other deserve down the years..u call it fair.... A situation wer I graduated 2014 bt ineptitude of dept ensured our entire set waited til 2015 for service while error was done on my results.. Infact all others of our colleagues went for service while the three best graduating student which I was inclusive were ommited in error...tell me why I would not opt for a private school if the hands of time can be turned back.....Imagine a journey from 2009 til 2016 over what...if I happen to find myself in covenant babcock or Madonna...with my dint of commitment and hardwork if I wouldn't get a ist class at least above 4.0 ll be obtainable.... I don't like generalizing.... In that same unical u have dept like philosophy history dat are gud....my roommate had 4.35 in history to me if he was in a private school wer fair is fair he would get a ist class.... If am given the opportunity to choose wer to do postgraduate on scholarship I ll choose private school cuz of d ecology....... I can tell u for a fact that the way public universities are run is rendering sm graduates psychological derilicks... I presume u are a Scholar rite .....smtin I treasure badly but time nd finance seems the dream cannot make the dream realizable....thanks...i HP we get to relate more

Bro, I share your pains. However, be it known that most First Class from private universities might not make its equivalent in public universities. That's if some will make 2.1

I keep telling those who cares to listen that private universities are business enterprises. Hence, the lecturers are mandated by the management to give students what they termed "excellent" results in order to remain in business. This does not happen in public universities where an academic monthly take home does not come from the institution but from the government. Permit me to say that I have seen so many First Class and 2.1 from well respected private universities in Nigeria who couldn't secured PhD grade from masters programme at Ui. A lot of them after all the struggling, couldn't make MPhil/PhD grade. What does that reveal? So many things of which one was over-grading. They end up being frustrated and raining curses on Ui as if the institution is their problem.

Let me also use this medium to highlight that environment drives competition. The Holy Bible pointed out that iron sharpens iron. If you had secured admission into a private university, who knows you might not put in the same level of effort. I hope you know that only few children from rich home study to show themselves approved unlike at Unical where several students will read even when they are maintaining steady 1-0-1 model.

Finally, finance shouldn't be a constraint if you desire to be in academics. I for one took it upon myself to see myself through all my academic pursuits without financial assistance from anyone. Please, don't ask me how because so many people keep asking that question except my childhood friends who know better. If you have desire and passion for something, please, don't let finance stop you. However, if your passion for academics is tied to an illusion of money making, please don't even imagine it. It is one profession that take home isn't commensurate to efforts invested. While some of us have had to regret venturing into it, some are consoled that it is an avenue to impart on lives.

555 appointees in just Kabba. It is even in excess for a state. Not even a senatorial district.

God, please where did we as black drop our common sense?

The Op would have as well tell us if living in UK and Nigeria is the same.

Someone who's learned should know there are yardsticks of comparison.

It is absolutely wrong to compare a man of 40 years with a boy of 10 years.

Back to the OP, I hope you also ascertain the take home of an academic in UK. Then compare to that of Nigeria.

OGHENAOGIE:
u think any sane person who has d funds ll opt for public school with so many wahala...lets be frank here...a lot of tins are wrong with our public schools.... Except u want us to sugar coat tins... A situation wer a lecturer finds it difficult to give students B is dat nt bin a sadist...a situation wer a students results get missing afta bin released wat do u call dat

Bro, your argument doesn't hold water. Lecturers do not find it difficult to award students B. I know of several friends who had "A" and "B" in all their courses in the university. I don't like revealing my identity in social network, otherwise I would have displayed both my BSc and MSc transcripts from two respected federal universities for your perusal. There is no single "C". They are the product of public universities and not private universities.

I have never found it difficult in awarding " A" to deserving students. Same with "F" to students who are keen about it. It is called input-output relationship. In other words, what you put in, is what you will get.

If given another chance, I will never opt for private universities. I am not against those whose preference is on private universities. But I have the strong conviction that a greater proportion of students in private universities couldn't secure admission in public universities because of intense competition. If you say this is not true, why is it that they opt for postgraduate programmes in public universities even where the private universities still run similar programmes?

This will not make Imo state indigenes and residents to vote your son in law, Uche Nwosu

Okorowusa, you can't rule by proxy.

OGHENAOGIE:
wat if d prof talk to d students sending dem out is it d solution...na pple like ina De encourage sadism and make lecturers all powerful.... cheif was rite without students no lecturers... Ist class in private equates 2.2 nonsense.....absolute nonsense...education is not war...if I had attended a private school nd graduated with 2.2 e for pay me pass going to public school nd spending over six yrs for a 2.1 dat is yet to give me headway in life......

Young man, what's sadism because I can't find that in the dictionary?

It was your choice to opt for a public university. Hope you know that the money you spent for fee for six years isn't up to a semester fee in private university.

Go and acquire a skill. 2.1 these days is not a guarantee for a job. Check NBS to know the current unemployment rate in Nigeria.

See stupidity. Gave someone #1m cash in the public and asked security to escort her home. So after that, she can't be visited by men of the under world?

Our mumu don do.

asuustrike2009:
The bolded part, abeg lie small. How can you use Igbinedion university as a yardstick to judge the rest universities. Many public universities are not discipline. What you call discipline is hatred,envy and jealousy most lecturers has. Now tell the case of that student being forced to sleep with her lecturer was from which university was it private or public university?. The case of cultism was it from private or public university?. If public university lecturers behave well, many private universities will fold

Hahahaha. Bro let me answer you one after the other.

1. What the randy professor of OAU did to Monica isn't exclusively public universities centred. Sexual harassment happens everywhere including private universities. It happens even in restaurants where the sales girls possibly earn #8,000 monthly. I have a number of friends who had their BSc from private universities in Nigeria. I don't want to be push to mention universities. But to prove beyond every reasonable doubt, some of them attest to the fact that "sorting" and sex for marks are obtainable at Madonna University, Babcock University, Bowen University. The list is endless. Some years ago, some students of Landmark University were expelled on discovery that they were pregnant. The aforementioned students jumped the gate and went out to catch fun. Even in the most respected private university in Nigeria, these things happen. The only thing one can say is that the magnitude differs and could be low in private universities because the owners watched over their investments. Don't come and tell me it doesn't happen at all. If not because of profit making, it would have being prevalent in private universities given that one can easily find "rich spoilt children" in numbers. Even in Covenant university, you still find some students expelled as a result of cultism. It is everywhere.

2. Why will a lecturer hate a student? Of what interest is it for a lecturer to jealous a student who is dependent on his/her parents? What is it that a lecturer that earns at least six digits envy a student who can hardly eat without a recourse to his/her parents? This doesn't hold water any day. As a student, I refused to believe that a lecturer can victimized any student. And as an academic, I still share that notion till tomorrow. For instance, a student chooses to drive to school the latest car, a lecturer is too occupied to even look towards that direction let alone victimizing the student.

3. You said "If public university (sic) lecturers behave (sic) well, many private universities will fold". It is not true. A greater proportion of students who secure admission to private universities couldn't meet up the competition in public universities. Hence, they chose to go to where their money can make way for them with low UTME. For instance, a student with 260 in UTME and wants to study Medicine and Surgery or Law or Economics at Ui, UNN, ABU, Unilag and OAU is likely not to be admitted to study any of these courses. But if he/she can afford some " sweet" millions of naira, Covenant University, Afe Babalola University and so on are sure bet.

Lazy youth. Go and hustle and make money rather than cursing Tope from morning till night.

Somebody should help me to tell the side that there is a positive relationship between love and money.

Intact, love is an increasing function of money.

[quote author=asuustrike2009 post=67184342][/quote]Your observation is not tenable. I will rather say that lecturers in private universities are soft and handles students with kid gloves given that the industry is competitive.

Let me shock you a little.

A very respected professor of University of Ibadan was on Sabbatical at Igbinedion University some years ago.

While he was delivering his lectures, three students were busy holding "meeting" amongst themselves.

When the professor noticed what was going on, he asked them to leave his class immediately (This is part of the character moulding in public universities in Nigeria).

The students did as instructed and went to relax under a tree to continue their "meeting".

Not quite long, Chief Igbinedion saw the students and asked them what are they doing outside while their colleagues are busy studying?

As expected, the students told the high chief that Prof ordered them out of his class.

Chief took them in and requested that prof should see him in his office after the lecture which he did.

Chief told prof, do you realised that without those students whom you sent outside, we can't pay your salary?

The next day, Prof left Igbinedion university and returned back to where discipline is upheld. Not private universities where they produced First Class that are equivalent to 2.2 in some public universities