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2special:
I dont understand, So kissing and washing of feets now makes one{d one 'doing' d kissing} holy and humble.....na wa o!

no one said it makes him holy. It is a symbolic act of humility and service to others. Also, it represents the call to ministry/priesthood as a call to servanthood. Christ told Peter that if he did not wash his feet then Peter would have no part in him.

smudge2079:
pls tell us the significance if it is not idolatry. Mtchewww

was it idolatry when Christ did same?

gozmok1:
CATHOLIC DOCTRINE IS SYNONYMOUS WITH THAT OF ISLAM CAN'T THIS POPE PREACH SALVATION MASSAGES INSTEAD OF THIS PUBLICITY STUNT KISSING FEET NONSENSE

if you you don't know that salvation is a message of love and that love begets humility ad charity then you wont recognize a message of salvation even if it is preached to you.

poundlander:
why do you have to wait for a year to wash your feet when you can wash it 5 Times a day?

because unlike Islam, feetwashing in the catholic church is only symbolic to represent something of a more powerful and deep meaning. Catholics, like all Christians, do not believe that dirt on the outside of the body makes one unclean.

kress2m1:
What utter nonsense!

What Christ showed the disciples, by washing their feet, was the following:

1. Servanthood - He, God Incarnate, was willing to serve and wash the feet of his disciples, when by right, they should be doing Him due service by washing His feet. He was showing them that following Christ was to renounce seeking glory and position, but being willing to take the lowliest seat and place, if that was what was on offer.

2. The Impact of His Shed Blood Upon The Sin Nature of Man - When a man has repented of his sins, is cleansed by the blood of Christ and is now a child of God, there can be no more repentance of this type. He is free from sin. But due to our nature, that man will still fall from time-to-time and for these, his heart cries out to God and he repents for falling short of the mark.

He is still a child of God, despite his falling into sin, but as one who seeks to please his Father in every way, he returns and asks for forgiveness. This is different to the first true repentance when he recognised that he was a sinner and deserving of the wrath of God and that unless Christ will have him, he must perish eternally.

Peter, seeing this in its full picture, asked that Christ wash him from head to foot! Christ's response was that he was already clean, but as they had gone out into the world and their feet had picked up dust, this was the only part that needed to be cleaned for Peter to be fully clean again (why wash the head when it was clean? Our Lord was and is not in the business of wasting resources). Peter was not willing to take a chance that his head and hands might be clean, he wanted double assurance! But the soothing words of Christ assured him that his assurance was secure and more than that. The lesson was that despite our best efforts, sin still finds a way to cleave to us and we must be diligent in rooting them out again and again.

Popes and Priests have bastardised this simple and effective analogy that Christ displayed. He never (and I dare you to show me in the bible) laid this down as a 'ritual' for Christians in the coming age to follow and I never read of Paul encouraging this either. Two things He left us; Baptising with water and sharing of Communion with one another and even these, men have made every attempt to drag into 'rituals', rather than what Christ intended them to be for.

This is the problem with man today. The simple 'repent and believe' in Christ for your salvation is not enough. Where someone will write all sorts to lead them astray, where their flesh will be titillated and their souls impoverished, that is what they will draw to their itching ears and carry out with all their might.

dont stress yourself bro. like the OP said, feetwashing is symbolic and catholics believe in symbolic rituals (not wrong to believe, not wrong not to believe in) but dont confuse yourself and wavering catholics that this makes one lose sight of the true intentions of Christ.

Brigadier7:
FOR HER To have returned a slap to her senior prefect shows how rude she is!!! She should even be expelled from the school!! Am against the Mal treated but this teachers you are talking about they are mothers and Parents too!! They cant just wake up one mrng and decide to descend on only her!! She must have been rude to them when she was invited to the staff room!! Op tell us the full story and stop being sentimental!! That's you people aid and abet bad children and when they get to the universities, they bcome secret cult members and runs girls and Problems to the society!! Shame on the NPF for wanting to arrest the management without proper investigation!! That what's how I read the other day how a secondary school cultist kiLled his Ex- Headmistress who is a grandmother in Benin, the headmistressed must have been dealing with him in school those days, now that he is a cultist, he decided to pay her back!! @Op your are biased in your account! OP I CHALLENGE YOU AND AM ASKING YOU TO QUESTION THE CHILD AGAIN TO TELL YOU WHAT SHE DID OR SAID TO THE TEACHERS THAT WARRANTED THE TREATED!!! If you decide to go to court remember they can still afford to get lawyers too. And there will be witnesses but student witnesses and Teacher witnesses that will come and testify THE TRUTH! So you better look before you leap!! I have seen a situation exactly like dis, the parent when to court and they ended up Apologizing to the school management and the Child was expelled too!

a child of 14 was stripped and flogged on her bare buttocks with marks and you are here talking about the child being rude. Why am I in the same country with people who reason like this?

As far as the child did not kill somebody, i cannot find any justification for the treatment she received. do you know the harm that has been done to this child's self esteem. she could be scarred for a long time.

OP. taking pictures of her scarred buttocks and putting her name on social media does not help her recovery. please remove the pictures or her name. to think that you even had her face on originally. she is 14 not 4 yrs.

ionsman:
This mushroom judge is wasting his time. If my memory serves me right,I think there was also a similar court injunction preceding the 2015 general elections but that didn't stop soldiers from being deployed because there was public outcry due to insecurity.

The security situation in Rivers state is volatile. So, I don't think this can stand else it will be a field day for cultists,thugs and militants.

soldiers can be deployed in the city but the ruling is about soldiers in voting booths. Soldiers were not used for 2015 elections. APC got a court ruling to stop it. I pray they cancel the elections until the security situation gets better.

VirginFinder:
Toyin? Bini name?
Modupe? Bini name?
What do they mean in Bini dialect?
Wonders shall never end!

i thought you meant the surnames. Of course anyone can take a firstname from another tribe.

who knows if one of the parents is yoruba

VirginFinder:
TOYIN Aimakhu is history/myth?
MODUPE Ozolua is history/myth?
John Odigie OYEGUN is history/myth?

Yoruba accounts have not been disputed by the Binis.

The issue is that, Binis have decided to add to history by saying Oduduwa is Ekaladerhan from Benin so as not to be inferior to Yorubas.

There lies the problem.

Oduduwa came from the middle east. Yoruba language has words with arabic origins. That's the evidence.

those are bini names for your info.

VirginFinder:
Hardly will Binis bear children and not give them at least one Yoruba name. And of course, the names cannot have Bini meaning because they are Yoruba names lending credence to the fact that many Binis do understand Yoruba somehow.

Bini and Yoruba account are the same just that Binis claim Oduduwa is Ekaladerhan from Benin. Whereas, Oduduwa is from the middle east.
Go and look for your Ekaladerhan elsewhere.
Oduduwa is NOT Ekaladerhan!

you guys keep making me laugh with the passion you devote to myth

Adaure4ever:
lagos? Really..

not expanded per say as they did not conquer the tribes between benin and lagos.

actually they did not conquer lagos per se but helped the inhabitants defeat the aworis hence the name eko (war camp). note that this was just lagos island epe axis and most of lagos was still under the control of the aworis.

VirginFinder:
Somebody just cant fathom why Binis bear Yoruba names and speak Yoruba in many cases.
He just doesnt know how to spin it!

Oduduwa came from the middle east. Fact!

Oranmiyan, Oduduwa's grandson, founded the Oba dynasty in Benin. Fact!

Edos dont speak yoruba in any case. why all these ignorance/arrogance from nairaland yorubas

read this

Sheikh Adelabu

Among the critics of Yoruba traditions about Oduduwa is the London-based Yoruba Muslim scholar, Sheikh Dr. Abu-Abdullah Adelabu, a PhD graduate from Damascus whose followers run several publications. In an interview with a Nigerian media house Sheikh Adelabu, the founder and spiritual leader of Awqaf Africa Society in London, dismissed the common myth that all Yorubas are descendants of Oduduwa as a false representation by Orisha worshippers to gain an unjust advantage over the spread of Islam and the recruitment of Christianity".[5] The Muslim scholar advised his followers at his Awqaf Africa College London against using phrases such as Omo Oduduwa i.e. Children of Oduduwa and Ile-Oduduwa i.e Land of Oduduwa. He argued that the story that all the Yorubas are children of Odua was based only on word of mouth, and that it does not conform with the science and the reality of logic conducted on objective principles which usually consists of systematized experimentation with phenomena, especially when examining materials and functions of the physical and spiritual worlds of the African people.[5]"

Gaddafithe2nd:
You are not being sincere. I answered that Izoduwa means Oduduwa.

Oba Eweka is the son of who again?
The answer is Oranmiyan. Therefore, all your kings from Eweka I to the present Oba are sons of Oranmiyan a Yoruba king.
I rest my case.

he is the great grand son of Ogiso Owodo.

Oduduwa is the son of who?

VirginFinder:
Abi o!

They claim the word Oba is theirs. Then why did the pre-Oranmiyan dynasty kings use Ogiso as their title.

Binis will bear children and give them Yoruba names and know the meaning without having to consult any Yoruba person.

Yorubas will NEVER give such an aberration giving their children Bini names a thought.

due to cross culture borders, there are always language influences. Yoruba names by benin peeps are rare and have no meaning in benin.

see understand that that everything you guys are arguing about are myth. there is no documented records before the 11th century. a lot of it is spread by word of mouth hence both the benin and yoruba account are unproven. respect theirs and they'll respect yours. The Ooni was wise not to be drawn to a supremacy battle. Be wise like your Ooni

VirginFinder:
Binis keep denying their Yoruba ties.
Yet they wont stop bearing Yoruba names and practicing Ifa.
Many Binis understand and speak Yoruba as a second language.

The Binis cannot prove that Oduduwa is Ekaladerhan from Benin. There is no trace of Bini language/tradition in Ife till tomorrow . But we all agree that Oranmiyan founded the current Oba dynasty in Benin. Cant we all just stick with that?

Binis should have been integrated into the Yoruba tribe during the Western region era.No thanks to Awo

Untrue !!!

and hope you know that you cannot even prove that oranmiyan existed. these were acient history/myth that were passed by word of mouth. so at least you are smarter than the lots here to know the benin account is different from the yoruba account. so respect their account as they respect yours. None of you can prove your accounts.

Aigbofa:
I am curious to know why until 1930s or there about the heads of dead Benin kings were buried in Ife. This is verifiable fact.

VERY FALSE !!!

they should have protected the victim by not mentioning his name

Rexhenrex:
so if your girl friend for instance is in dear need of 500 or 1,000 u won't give ?? no one said u should pay her school fees or give her millions.

if my friend is in need of 500 or 1000, i will give too. The point is that in both occasions, it is NOT OBLIGATORY.

The primary responsibility for her upkeep falls on her parents. That i get a nice gift for her on her birthday (and/or on other days) doesn't mean I provide for her. I do same for my friends.

The important thing to note is that I have NO FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY to someone I am DATING.

MARRIAGE is a different ball game where All I OWN BELONGS to US.

Dakad:
Honestly if GEJ has acted like this man, he wouldn't have lost 2015 election. Just imagine someone like Abba Moro or whatever he's been called remain in GEJ administration till the last day despite all his atrocity

well. the Ministers of Budget & ministers of Finance are still in the cabinet so I dont see the difference.

fiizznation:
Look young man, I don't like folks who throw insults at any random cognomen on faceless fora. You would have still pass your own opinion without name callings.

That been said. No court of any jurisdiction have found yunusa guilty of the baseless accusations he was been accused of. What I and everybody have been reading online and offline is how yunusa the Muslim boy from the north "kidnapped/abducted" the innocent young christian bayelsa girl called ese from the south. Then I asked you, if this is not disrespect to yunusa's person then what is it? Yunusa has outrightly said he never abducted ESE rather she was the one that willingly followed him to kano. The girl is 14 as you all want everybody to believe. Then why are you not calling for the heads of ese's parents who failed to tell their 14yrs old child that it is very wrong to elope with boys to wherever?

Look young man, nobody is a fool and nobody believed the facade that ese's mother told journalists. Like I outrightly said. If you guys think nobody will stand up and speak/fight for yunusa, then you guys must be joking

Your answer to the questions below will help me understand your point:

if a 14 yrs old girl seduces me into having intercourse with her and I oblige, am I guilty or not?
If my 10 years old son runs away from home to his friends family house becuase of fear of my flogging and lives there for 3 months woithout his friends parents trying to contact me or the police, are they (friends parents) guilty?

Chiccly:
Good!

That serves him right.

hope you would say same when they strip a lady. cos these same peeps will strip a lady

Progressive01:
The Ineffectual Buffoon handed over an electricity capacity of about 900MW with the entire nation in darkness while fuel was selling for over 250 naira a litre and 400 in some cases, these useless iPork shrimps didn't as much as sneeze a disapproval. Today, they crawl out of their dens like Tasmanian devils in hibernation to waank all over the place at the sound of a bad news.

The thunder you say should strike Baba and Tinubu would first strike the Ogogoro Buffoon, that Albino Faagoot in Kuje and then locate their middle of your useless brains and fry whatever maggots that lie in there.

Sick bastards.

just so you know there is no difference between you and the "Ipork shrimps" as you call them. you speak on sentiments, twist facts to support your position and resort to insults.

Cutehector:
Lol and she would hav told her boyfrnd no sex till marriage


I just wonder d kind of look he'd hav on her afterwards.

I would be filled with guilt. I am supposed to protect her. That a chaste lady was raped doesn't make her unchaste

I just love this Ooni. Displays humility yet exuding confidence. Reminds me of Oba of Benin in his early years on the throne. #EdoBoy

ahamonyeka:
Illiya du Uniben.

iliya du 'via

efilefun:
Just here to check the names of the rapists... Smh

But on a serious note I see no reason why this animals should be granted bail, just send them to the queue to join rev King or they spend the rest of their miserable life in Kirikiri

tribal bigot. Name checking is not in vogue anymore. Others have left you to wallow in your lonely tribalistic dungeoun.

RickRichards:
So she doesn't deserve a shot at the big time just because she's a dropout?

'Cause Olajumoke you're a star, that's going
very far.
And all the world will know your name,
And you'll be famous as you are 'cause I'll sing for you.

James Blunt memories

Jowonloju:
We are not competing with Africa but the develop Countries. does African Countries have light.tell me how much it cost in countries with stable power supply

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_pricing#Global_electricity_price_comparison

you might be shocked. note that this was Nigeria price as at 2013

dammytosh:
Mchewwww

This heroic thing is now sounding like Deadpool. It is crap.

He lost by over 2million votes.

What would he have done with Rtd Gen Obasanjo, IBB, Abdusallam etc at the other side.

He should enjoy is life peacefully and stop over flogging the 'no blood is worth his ambition' crap.

abi o. anyway for the bolded, he is not the one over flogging it.

seunmsg:
In war, anything goes. That's why it's better not to start a war you are not fully prepared for. It saves you stories like this. That is why I will blame Ojukwu for starting a war he knew he can't win. He's a war criminal for wasting the lives of 2million Igbos for no reason. Beside, both sides committed war crimes during the war.

William Wallace would be a war criminal then... heck even Nelson Mandela

splashbaby:
Igbanke should have been part of delta state in the first place.

how about ekpon an Esan town that speak both Ika and Esan?